Do vaccines contribute to autism? Should we vaccinate?

[onawah]

Important!! US Take Action: News report on fed's cover-up of vaccines causing autism
In today's email update from :Autism Action Network.org

"Take Action here: http://capwiz.com/a-champ/issues/ale...96771&queueid=[capwiz:queue_id]
Send to your elected representatives

Please watch this news report from the Full Measure program by journalist Sheryl Attkisson on the federal government's cover-up of evidence linking vaccine injury to autism."
(Continued below after youtube description)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1XUM2gvfbW8

From the youtube page:
"Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson
Published on Jan 7, 2019
Today we investigate one of the biggest medical controversies of our time: vaccines.
There’s little dispute about this much-- vaccines save many lives, and rarely, they injure or kill.
A special federal vaccine court has paid out billions for injuries from brain damage to death.
But not for the form of brain injury we call autism. Now—we have remarkable new information: a respected pro-vaccine medical expert used by the federal government to debunk the vaccine-autism link, says vaccines can cause autism after all.
He claims he told that to government officials long ago, but they kept it secret.
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Full Measure is a weekly Sunday news program focusing on investigative, original and accountability reporting.
The host is Sharyl Attkisson, five-time Emmy Award winner and recipient of the Edward R. Murrow award for investigative reporting.
She is backed by a team of award winning journalists.

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In the early 2000s more than 5000 claims of vaccine injury leading to autism filed in the federal "vaccine court" were consolidated into one large case called the "Autism Omnibus Proceeding (AOP)."
A group of cases were selected to test three theories of how vaccines could cause autism. If the court found in favor of those cases that decision would serve as a precedent for deciding similar cases.

The government's key witness was Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, the leading pediatric neurologist on autism in the US. Zimmerman shocked the Department of Justice lawyers representing the federal government by letting him know that he believed that vaccines could cause autism in some children.
The government attorneys were legally obligated to provide that information to the lawyers for the 5000 families, but they didn't.
They covered it up, and they fired Zimmerman.
They did however use Zimmerman's testimony to decide one of the test cases for Hannah Poling, but then refused to use the Poling case as a precedent for other cases, which was the whole point of the AOP.
We know this happened because Zimmerman provided that sequence of events in a deposition in another federal lawsuit.

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[ThePythonicCow]

Who is one of the strongest advocates for vaccines in the world:

Bill Gates

Who refused to vaccinate his children:

Bill Gates

From Bill Gates’ Former Doctor Says Billionaire ‘Refused to Vaccinate His Children’:

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The physician who served as Bill Gates’ private doctor in Seattle in the 1990s says the Microsoft founder and vaccine proponent “refused to vaccinate his own children” when they were young.

“I don’t know if he had them vaccinated as adults, but I can tell you he point blank refused to vaccinate them as children,” the physician said at a behind closed doors medical symposium in Seattle, adding “They were gorgeous kids, really smart and vivacious, and he said they would be OK as it was, they didn’t need any shots.”

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[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
From Bill Gates’ Former Doctor Says Billionaire ‘Refused to Vaccinate His Children’

Ah - this was a repost of the following year-old newspunch.com (aka yournewswire.com) article: Bill Gates’ Former Doctor Says Billionaire ‘Refused To Vaccinate His Children’

[Hervé]

Vaccine skepticism in Australia now punishable by 10 years in jail

Chief Editor Explain Life
Fri, 04 Jan 2019 00:01 UTC

Australian nurses and midwives who dare to speak out against the dangers of vaccinations on social media or in person will be prosecuted, the Australian government has warned, urging members of the public to report vaccine skeptics to the authorities.

Medical professionals face a jail sentence of 10 years for expressing doubt about the effectiveness of vaccinations or urging further studies into vaccine safety. Opponents of the new law claim free speech and scientific integrity is under attack in Australia by a government that has been bought and paid for by Big Pharma.

"With no exceptions we expect all registered nurses, enrolled nurses and midwives to use the best available evidence in making practice decisions. This includes providing information to the public about public health issues," Chair of the Nursing and Midwifery Board of Australia (NMBA) Dr. Lynette Cusack said in a statement.

The NMBA has called on Australians to report nurses or midwives promoting anti-vaccination - 'anti-vaxxers', as they're known colloquially.

"The board will consider whether the nurse or midwife has breached their professional obligations and will treat these matters seriously," the statement said.

"Any published anti-vaccination material and/or advice which is false, misleading or deceptive which is being distributed by a registered nurse, enrolled nurse or midwife (including via social media) may also constitute a summary offence under the National Law and could result in prosecution by AHPRA [Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency.]"

One of the strongest supporters of vaccination, Victoria's Health Minister Jill Hennessy, has no time for parents who believe vaccine safety requires further study in order to ensure they are safe for our children.

Describing vaccine skeptics as "brain dead sheep", the politician said:

"They are an organized movement, largely stemming from the United State of America that are hell bent on misleading parents that vaccinations are unsafe.

"That's a dangerous message and one I'm going to continue to fight. Vaccinations save lives," the minister concluded.

According to the new laws, parents who don't immunize their kids may stop receiving childcare benefits. Only people with solid medical reasons are exempt from the crackdown.


Related:

• Australia: Mandatory vaccines and the secret treaty

• 'No Jab, No Pay' Australia policy ends payouts to citizens who refuse vaccines

• Vaccine shot killed famed cancer doctor in minutes from "total organ failure", state-run media desperately tries to cover it up

• Attkisson Report reveals threats against congressmen investigating autism-vaccine link

• James Corbett: Vaccination propaganda in overdrive as vaccine/autism link is further confirmed

• Are doctors actually giving patients any up-to-date vaccine safety information?

[Hervé]

Doctors admit vaccines are harmful and turn our immune systems against us

Tracey Watson Natural News
Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:52 UTC

© Natural News

The World Health Organization (WHO) recently included vaccine skeptics - people who are hesitant to vaccinate themselves or their children because they are concerned about the potential health risks - on their annual list of "global health threats," along with serious dangers like superbugs, climate change, the Ebola virus, HIV and air pollution. The WHO claims that "vaccine hesitancy" increases the risk of a resurgence in diseases they claim are fully preventable through vaccination.

The WHO is by no means alone in its position. Many governments, medical professionals and members of the mainstream media have attacked anti-vaxxers - as they are known - claiming that they are selfish people who put the health of the greater majority at risk. These pro-vaccine groups and individuals like to infer that to question vaccines is both unscientific and dangerous.

In recent years, however, a growing number of highly respected scientists and doctors have started questioning mainstream vaccine propaganda as the results of their own, unbiased studies raise alarming questions about the long-term safety of vaccines. These issues particularly relate to the volume of vaccinations administered to small children and the adjuvants and ingredients used in the manufacture of these vaccines. The latest such study was recently published in the journal Pharmacological Research, warning that many, many people are at increased risk of developing autoimmune diseases after receiving vaccinations.

Weaponizing our own immune systems
Celeste McGovern, an award-winning journalist writing for Green Med Info, noted that the study's lead author, Yehuda Shoenfeld, is a highly respected scientist in the field of human immunity. Shoenfeld is the author of multiple papers and textbooks, some of which are viewed as the very cornerstones of autoimmunological clinical practice. Unsurprisingly, Shoenfeld has become known as the "Godfather of Autoimmunology."

Autoimmunology is the study of how the body's own defense system sometimes turns against itself, resulting in the development of diseases like multiple sclerosis, arthritis, Guillain-Barre syndrome and others.

One of the causes of this immune system malfunction is vaccination. As the authors note in the study abstract:

Vaccinations have been used as an essential tool in the fight against infectious diseases, and succeeded in improving public health. However, adverse effects, including autoimmune conditions may occur following vaccinations (autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants-ASIA syndrome). It has been postulated that autoimmunity could be triggered or enhanced by the vaccine immunogen contents, as well as by adjuvants, which are used to increase the immune reaction to the immunogen.

The research team defined those who are at increased risk of such autoimmune conditions developing after vaccination as follows:
Learn more at Vaccines.news.

[W]e defined four groups of individuals who might be susceptible to develop vaccination-induced ASIA: patients with prior post-vaccination autoimmune phenomena, patients with a medical history of autoimmunity, patients with a history of allergic reactions, and individuals who are prone to develop autoimmunity (having a family history of autoimmune diseases; asymptomatic carriers of autoantibodies; carrying certain genetic profiles, etc.).

The study's authors went at pains to stress that these potential groups of individuals represent only a small percentage of the population and that vaccines are generally safe. However, as noted by McGovern, this is simply not true because of the sheer volume of people who fall into one or more of these categories, including:

• Anyone who has a preexisting autoimmune condition;

• People who have had previous reactions to vaccines (which doctors almost always overlook);

• Patients with a history of allergic reactions, particularly to eggs (something which nurses and others who administer vaccines hardly ever check with vaccine recipients); and

• People prone to developing autoimmunity. This is where it gets really interesting, because this would include smokers (about 18 percent of all Americans), people with high estrogen levels (anyone on the contraceptive pill or hormone replacement therapy), and people with low vitamin D levels (studies indicate that three quarters of all American teens and adults are vitamin D deficient).

In other words, based on this study's findings, the vast majority of us are at increased risk of developing an autoimmune disease after being vaccinated. But nobody will warn you about that, and if you dare to question the vaccine status quo you'll be branded a quack or a "global health threat."

Learn more at Vaccines.news.

Sources include:

GreenMedInfo.com

NCBI.NLM.NIH.gov

NCBI.NLM.NIH.gov

[Hervé]

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Practically all epidemics in autoimmune diseases today are linked back to Roundup.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QTgGjp3ryPI

Dr Stephanie Seneff Presents Roundup, MMR and Autism A Toxic Connection

[Angels1981]

I am not allowed the MMR jab and they all go on about how your child has to have it or else. Maybe I am lucky but I've never gave it a thought and I know I am free from having any symptoms or measles. So I know each person is different and may react but it is still saying for example that I have come away free from measles so far.
I am curious as to why vaccinations don't state the ingredients before we decide to have them.
Look at the flu vaccination I don't believe in it full stop personally. I can't back you up scientifically but the amount of times my friends and family have had the needle and they did get the flu really bad afterwards. HMMMMMMM!!!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
From Good Morning America Pinterest blocks vaccination searches to avoid spreading anti-vaccination information, via ABC News. via The Blaze, via Q Research on 8 Chan:


Pinterest reveals crackdown on anti-vaccine posts and searches

Good grief - now Facebook may soon join in the anti-vax banning.

From Mark Zuckerberg goes all-in with the deadly vaccine industry in sweeping new plan to censor ALL posts that question Big Pharma’s vaccine dogma (NaturalNews.com):

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At the request of California Leftist, Democratic cult leader, and American traitor Adam Schiff, Facebook has announced that it may soon implement new policies to actively censor content on its platform that goes against the official narrative that all vaccines are 100 percent “safe and effective.”

Blaming several recent outbreaks of measles on the prevalence of “anti-vaccine information” online, Schiff believes that it’s now Facebook’s job to actively steer users towards only pro-vaccine content in order to keep people “protected.”

“There is strong evidence to suggest that at least part of the source of this trend is the degree to which medically inaccurate information about vaccines surface (sic) on the websites where many Americans get their information,” Schiff is quoted as saying, providing absolutely none of the supposedly “strong evidence” that he says proves that disease outbreaks are caused by people reading alternative information about vaccines on Facebook.

“The algorithms which power these services are not designed to distinguish quality information from misinformation or misleading information, and the consequences of that are particularly troubling for public health issues,” he added, inferring that the “all vaccines are safe and effective” narrative represents the only “quality information” about vaccines.
Facebook capitulates to Schiff’s demands, says it’s working on new ways to “combat the problem”

In response to Schiff’s poorly-worded letter of warning to Facebook Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook reportedly released a statement in response, indicating that the company is “exploring additional measures to best combat the problem.”

These “measures” apparently include “reducing or removing this type of content from recommendations, including Groups You Should Join, and demoting it in search results, while also ensuring that higher quality and more authoritative information is available.”

For related news, be sure to check out VaccineJihad.com and VaccineHolocaust.org.
YouTube actively demoting videos that tell the other side of the vaccine story

Google, which also received the same letter from Schiff, did not immediately respond with a statement like Facebook did. However, the Google-owned YouTube platform last month took action to demote videos that promote “misinformation” about vaccines, using the example of videos that promote “a phony miracle cure for a serious illness.”

Keep in mind that Schiff, the ringleader in all this, is the same tool bag that’s been parroting the “Russian collusion” conspiracy theory any chance he gets. Despite a total lack of evidence that the Trump campaign in any way conspired with Vladimir Putin to “steal” the 2016 election, Schiff continues to tout it as though it were undeniable fact.

And now with vaccines, Schiff wants all Americans to be forced to consume only pro-vaccine propaganda, citing the “dangers” of online free speech. It’s an Orwellian nightmare that Schiff and his fellow Democrats believe is necessary to promote the “greater good” – even though numerous outbreaks in the past occurred in populations that were fully vaccinated.

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Is there a vaccine for tyrannical stupidity? If so, Adam Schiff needs a booster shot of it badly.

[Hervé]

Arizona lawmakers pass vaccine parental rights bills in face of criticism

Jim Satney Prep For That
Sun, 24 Feb 2019 00:01 UTC

© Gage Skidmore

“Vaccines have a place, but it’s every parent’s individual right to decide the vaccine’s place in the child’s life,” Rep. Nancy Barto, the bills’ sponsor, says.

The Arizona The House Health and Human Services Committee approved three contentious vaccine-related House Bills. Each of the bills loosens government authority over parental immunization matters. Critics believe the measures may lower vaccination density in the state. Republicans and Democrats split the vote, with Republicans mostly siding with approval.

The first measure of importance, House Bill 2470, allows parents to opt their children out of vaccines without having to sign a state health department form. Committee chairwoman Rep. Nancy Barto, R-Phoenix, who supports and sponsors all three bills, says this measure is about protecting parents from government coercion.

"When a parent only has a government statement that they have to sign in order to qualify for an exemption that they don't agree with, that is coercion. This allows them to either sign that or make their own statement," said committee chairwoman Rep. Nancy Barto, R-Phoenix, who sponsored all three bills. "We are talking about a policy decision now for parents and we should attribute the best expectations on parents, not the worst."

The second measure, House Bill 2472, applies directly to doctors. According to the bill, doctors will need to offer parents an "antibody titer" blood test for their children. The blood test is used to determine if the child needs the vaccine.

The third bill, House Bill 2471, is an informed consent bill that gives parents information regarding vaccine ingredients. Additionally, it explains the vaccine court process, in the event, a vaccine injury occurs.

SOTT Comment:
This is a huge win for freedom in the US. In the face of growing calls for mandatory vaccination, to put forward a law that not only allows parents to make their own health decisions for their children, but forces doctors to offer a test to see if they even need the vaccine, and give parents information about vaccine ingredients, is massive. It's nice to see Arizona believes their citizens are capable of making their own informed decisions.

Related:

• If only 1% of all vaccine injuries are reported, the $4 billion paid out is just the tip of the iceberg

• Dr. Brian Hooker's bombshell testimony before Congress reveals how MMR vaccines INCREASE deaths from measles

• Do vaccines really prevent 2.5 million children from dying each year?

• Doctors admit vaccines are harmful and turn our immune systems against us

• Vaccines distributed in Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana causing infections

• Yale Researchers continue to promote vaccines after discovering a correlation between vaccinations and mental illness

[onawah]

Urgent! Congressional hearing Wed. on measles, Pretext to eliminate exemptions nationally!
Autism Action Network
2/25/19
Take action at :
http://capwiz.com/a-champ/issues/ale...id=11814036736

"The following message is from our colleagues at Children's Health Defense and supported by scores of health rights and safety organizations across the US too numerous to list in this message.

Threats to end religious and philosophical vaccine exemptions have just been ratcheted up to an unprecedented federal level. If parents and caregivers are stripped of the ability to make health care decisions for their children, reinstating that ability may be nearly impossible. We need to take action now to prevent the government from dictating what is injected into our children.
On Wednesday, FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb hinted in a CNN interview that if non-medical vaccine exemptions were not abolished at the state level, federal health agencies may intercede. This is especially ominous considering two critical upcoming vaccine-related hearings recently announced on Capitol Hill:
Wednesday, February 27, 10:00 a.m. The Energy & Commerce Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee will hold a hearing on the current measles outbreak and response efforts.
Tuesday, March 5, 10:00 a.m. The HELP Committee (Health, Education, Labor and Pensions) will hold a hearing, Vaccines Save Lives: What is Driving Preventable Disease Outbreaks?
Please click on the Take Action link below to send an email message to your Representative and both US Senators from your State calling upon them to assure that the hearings are more than just a pretext to eliminate vaccine rights in every state.
http://capwiz.com/a-champ/issues/ale...id=11814036736


Please call your two US Senators and your Representative in the House at their Washington DC offices, and let them know politely that you want religious and secular exemptions preserved and strengthened, not eliminated. Their names and numbers should be below.And in this age of electronic communications old-fashioned letters have grown in the amount of influence they have. Please write to your elected officials in Washington and explain how important religious and secular exemptions are to your family. We absolutely must have representation at these hearings. It’s crucial that we have as many parents and advocates as possible in attendance at both. And if your Senator or Congressional representative is on one of these committees, it is critical that they hear from you! Click here for the House Energy & Commerce Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee members https://energycommerce.house.gov/sub...116th-congress and here for the Senate HELP Committee members. https://www.help.senate.gov/about/members
Every single one of us needs to contact our Congressional representatives https://www.house.gov/representatives and Senators https://www.senate.gov/general/conta...nators_cfm.cfm starting right now. In your communications, be sure to emphasize that:
These hearings need to be fair, balanced, and include opposing viewpoints. We have many highly qualified individuals to present those viewpoints.
Issues related to vaccines should be governed by the states.
Over $4 billion has been paid out for vaccine injuries and deaths and HHS estimates less than 1% of adverse events are reported. Mandating any procedure involving such risks is unethical.
HHS has failed in its Congressional directive to study vaccine safety for 30 years.
Mandating liability-free vaccines that have not been properly safety tested is in direct opposition to the first tenet of the Nuremberg Code: The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.
If you have a vaccine-injured child, tell your story. This personal input to those who represent you in our nation’s capital illustrates the harsh reality of a vaccine program geared towards industry profit rather than public health.
We have much more information on all the many ways our government has failed to protect our children here https://childrenshealthdefense.org/s...ng-the-wrongs/ and factual information that may aid in the defense of health freedom and pushing back mandates here. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/p...dates-toolbox/
The future of medical freedom is at stake. Ensuring that our federally elected representatives hear from all of us through emails, faxes and phone calls to both their DC and district offices has never been more important than it is at this moment. If we are to maintain medical freedom and protect the health of generations to come, we need to raise our united voices now!"
Please share this alert with friends and family and urge them to do the same, and please post to social networks to support the work of the Autism Action Network www.autismactionnetwork.org

[ThePythonicCow]

Another heart breaker - mother of three children who are now about 20 years old, and will need 24 hour a day care for the rest of their lives:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkyvD-XofHg

[onawah]

Vaccine Guide

This guide was originally created for those who are already vaccine risk-aware but wanted a place to store and organize studies/links/references in order to quickly grab and share with others. It was for those who wanted a “vaccine binder” and didn’t have time to make it themselves.

https://vaccine.guide/

[onawah]

Much more here (the Vaxxed youtube channel) :https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwZ...E398OLazdituKQ
What would it take for people like these parents, both professionals, to really examine the information about the damage that vaccines cause, and not just to certain vulnerable children.
How many more children will be sacrificed to the God that has been made of Big Pharma?

Posted by Paul (here)
Another heart breaker - mother of three children who are now about 20 years old, and will need 24 hour a day care for the rest of their lives:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkyvD-XofHg

[Gaia]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
That really makes the globe look unbalanced (structurally)

Where would these 'Blobs' fit into the Flat Earth Society's world ? hehe 0.o

The only valid answer to my eyes after more than 20 years has a web user is the following conclusion: Social media simply acts as a magnifying glass. People who believe in the flat earth have been caught with all the subterfuges that have been deployed to make them believe in this possibility. The same flawed psychology that fuels the flat Earth theory fuels anti-vaxxers and climate-change deniers.

[conk]

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
That really makes the globe look unbalanced (structurally)

Where would these 'Blobs' fit into the Flat Earth Society's world ? hehe 0.o

The only valid answer to my eyes after more than 20 years has a web user is the following conclusion: Social media simply acts as a magnifying glass. People who believe in the flat earth have been caught with all the subterfuges that have been deployed to make them believe in this possibility. The same flawed psychology that fuels the flat Earth theory fuels anti-vaxxers and climate-change deniers.

Anti-vaxxers are fueled by the fact that vaccines are worthless and poison. Add ill intent by the drug firms and you have a tragedy.

[DNA]

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
That really makes the globe look unbalanced (structurally)

Where would these 'Blobs' fit into the Flat Earth Society's world ? hehe 0.o

The only valid answer to my eyes after more than 20 years has a web user is the following conclusion: Social media simply acts as a magnifying glass. People who believe in the flat earth have been caught with all the subterfuges that have been deployed to make them believe in this possibility. The same flawed psychology that fuels the flat Earth theory fuels anti-vaxxers and climate-change deniers.

Hi Gaia
I'm no flat earther, but vaccinations and the damage they do are well documented and the correlations between vaccinations and vaccine related deaths is a pretty easy connection to substantiate. Folks often talk about the thousands of deaths a year that the CDC admits vaccinations are responsible for, of equal or greater damage would be the millions of people who have been affected by severe autism. I work with severely affected autistic teens, it is a sight nothing can prepare you for. These kids are trapped within a world of obsessive compulsions and are so oblivious to society they speak in one word requests, lack any and all empathy and will play with and eat their own feces. I dare say a life of severe autism could be said to be worse than death for the individual and the family associated with the affected individual. Once you start down the road of hearing the folks who have done studies linking vaccinations with death and autism and seeing how these folks are routinely losing their medical practice and even arrested and jailed. Folks researching vaccine damage are also routinely suicided, this is an area of research that is not allowed and or encouraged and career threatening and life ending dangers are presented regularly to folks who pursue this information.

[onawah]

Gaia, if you really think anti-vaxxers are guilty of using flawed psychology, I would highly recommend that you read these threads: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...light=vaccines
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...light=vaccines
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...light=vaccines

To say that the evidence of harm caused by vaccines is well-documented is an understatement.

To the Mods: That said, why is the post from Gaia , which appears to be from the thread "Re: Earth Blobs!" in the "Re: Do vaccines contribute to autism? Should we vaccinate?" thread?

Posted by Gaia (here)

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
That really makes the globe look unbalanced (structurally)

Where would these 'Blobs' fit into the Flat Earth Society's world ? hehe 0.o

The only valid answer to my eyes after more than 20 years has a web user is the following conclusion: Social media simply acts as a magnifying glass. People who believe in the flat earth have been caught with all the subterfuges that have been deployed to make them believe in this possibility. The same flawed psychology that fuels the flat Earth theory fuels anti-vaxxers and climate-change deniers.

[Hervé]

Posted by onawah (here)
[...]
To the Mods: That said, why is the post from Gaia , which appears to be from the thread "Re: Earth Blobs!" in the "Re: Do vaccines contribute to autism? Should we vaccinate?" thread?
[...]

I moved these posts that didn't have anything to do with Earth Blobs to this thread since they happily derailed that other thread into vaccines...

[onawah]

OK. Thanks Herve

[Tintin]

Jon Rappoport: Interview with a Retired Vaccine Researcher

"Q: Are some vaccines more dangerous than others?

A: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a vaccine are more dangerous than other lots of the same vaccine. As far as I'm concerned, all vaccines are dangerous.

Q: Why?

A: Several reasons. They involve the human immune system in a process that tends to compromise immunity. They can actually cause the disease they are supposed to prevent. They can cause other diseases than the ones they are supposed to prevent."

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by Jon Rappoport, March 13, 2019


INTERVIEW WITH A RETIRED VACCINE RESEARCHER

Dr. Mark Randall is the pseudonym of a vaccine researcher who worked for many years in the labs of major pharmaceutical houses and the US government's National Institutes of Health.

Mark retired in the 1990s. He says he was "disgusted with what he discovered about vaccines."

As you know, since the beginning of NoMoreFakeNews, I continue to launch attacks against non-scientific and dangerous assertions about the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

Mark was one of my early sources.

At the time this interview was originally published -- in January 2002, Mark was a little reluctant to speak out, even under the cover of anonymity. But, with the push to make vaccines mandatory and with penalties like quarantine lurking in the wings (even back then), he decided to break his silence.

Like many of my sources, he developed a conscience about his former work. Mark was well aware of the scope of the medical cartel and its goals of depopulation, mind control, and general debilitation of populations.

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(Q) Jon Rappoport

(A) Retired Vaccine Researcher(given the pseudonym of "Dr. Mark Randall")

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Q: You were once certain that vaccines were the hallmark of good medicine.

A: Yes I was. I helped develop a few vaccines. I won't say which ones.

Q: Why not?

A: I want to preserve my privacy.

Q: So you think you could have problems if you came out into the open?

A: I believe I could lose my pension.

Q: On what grounds?

A: The grounds don't matter. These people have ways of causing you problems, when you were once part of the Club. I know one or two people who were put under surveillance, who were harassed.

Q: Harassed by whom?

A: The FBI.

Q: Really?

A: Sure. The FBI used other pretexts. And the IRS can come calling too.

Q: So much for free speech.

A: I was "part of the inner circle." If now I began to name names and make specific accusations against researchers, I could be in a world of trouble.

Q: What is at the bottom of these efforts at harassment?

A: Vaccines are the last defense of modern medicine. Vaccines are the ultimate justification for the overall "brilliance" of modern medicine.

Q: Do you believe that people should be allowed to choose whether they should get vaccines?

A: On a political level, yes. On a scientific level, people need information, so that they can choose well. It's one thing to say choice is good. But if the atmosphere is full of lies, how can you choose? Also, if the FDA were run by honorable people, these vaccines would not be granted licenses. They would be investigated to within an inch of their lives.

Q: There are medical historians who state that the overall decline of illnesses was not due to vaccines.

A: I know. For a long time, I ignored their work.

Q: Why?

A: Because I was afraid of what I would find out. I was in the business of developing vaccines. My livelihood depended on continuing that work.

Q: And then?

A: I did my own investigation.

Q: What conclusions did you come to?

A: The decline of disease is due to improved living conditions.

Q: What conditions?

A: Cleaner water. Advanced sewage systems. Nutrition. Fresher food. A decrease in poverty. Germs may be everywhere, but when you are healthy, you don't contract the diseases as easily.

Q: What did you feel when you completed your own investigation?

A: Despair. I realized I was working a sector based on a collection of lies.

Q: Are some vaccines more dangerous than others?

A: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a vaccine are more dangerous than other lots of the same vaccine. As far as I'm concerned, all vaccines are dangerous.

Q: Why?

A: Several reasons. They involve the human immune system in a process that tends to compromise immunity. They can actually cause the disease they are supposed to prevent. They can cause other diseases than the ones they are supposed to prevent.

Q: Why are we quoted statistics which seem to prove that vaccines have been tremendously successful at wiping out diseases?

A: Why? To give the illusion that these vaccines are useful. If a vaccine suppresses visible symptoms of a disease like measles, everyone assumes that the vaccine is a success. But, under the surface, the vaccine can harm the immune system itself. And if it causes other diseases -- say, meningitis -- that fact is masked, because no one believes that the vaccine can do that. The connection is overlooked.

Q: It is said that the smallpox vaccine wiped out smallpox in England.

A: Yes. But when you study the available statistics, you get another picture.

Q: Which is?

A: There were cities in England where people who were not vaccinated did not get smallpox. There were places where people who were vaccinated experienced smallpox epidemics. And smallpox was already on the decline before the vaccine was introduced.

Q: So you're saying that we have been treated to a false history.

A: Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. This is a history that has been cooked up to convince people that vaccines are invariably safe and effective.

Q: Now, you worked in labs. Where purity was an issue.

A: The public believes that these labs, these manufacturing facilities are the cleanest places in the world. That is not true. Contamination occurs all the time. You get all sorts of debris introduced into vaccines.

Q: For example, the SV40 monkey virus slips into the polio vaccine.

A: Well yes, that happened. But that's not what I mean. The SV40 got into the polio vaccine because the vaccine was made by using monkey kidneys. But I'm talking about something else. The actual lab conditions. The mistakes. The careless errors. SV40, which was later found in cancer tumors -- that was what I would call a structural problem. It was an accepted part of the manufacturing process. If you use monkey kidneys, you open the door to germs which you don't know are in those kidneys.

Q: Okay, but let's ignore that distinction between different types of contaminants for a moment. What contaminants did you find in your many years of work with vaccines?

A: All right. I'll give you some of what I came across, and I'll also give you what colleagues of mine found. Here's a partial list. In the Rimavex measles vaccine, we found various chicken viruses. In polio vaccine, we found acanthamoeba, which is a so-called "brain-eating" amoeba.

Simian cytomegalovirus in polio vaccine. Simian foamy virus in the rotavirus vaccine. Bird-cancer viruses in the MMR vaccine. Various micro-organisms in the anthrax vaccine. I've found potentially dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several vaccines. Duck, dog, and rabbit viruses in the rubella vaccine. Avian leucosis virus in the flu vaccine. Pestivirus in the MMR vaccine.

Q: Let me get this straight. These are all contaminants which don't belong in the vaccines.

A: That's right. And if you try to calculate what damage these contaminants can cause, well, we don't really know, because no testing has been done, or very little testing. It's a game of roulette. You take your chances. Also, most people don't know that some polio vaccines, adenovirus vaccines, rubella and hep A and measles vaccines have been made with aborted human fetal tissue. I have found what I believed were bacterial fragments and poliovirus in these vaccines from time to time -- which may have come from that fetal tissue. When you look for contaminants in vaccines, you can come up with material that IS puzzling. You know it shouldn't be there, but you don't know exactly what you've got. I have found what I believed was a very small "fragment" of human hair and also human mucus. I have found what can only be called "foreign protein," which could mean almost anything. It could mean protein from viruses.

Q: Alarm bells are ringing all over the place.

A: How do you think I felt? Remember, this material is going into the bloodstream without passing through some of the ordinary immune defenses.

Q: How were your findings received?

A: Basically, it was, don't worry, this can't be helped. In making vaccines, you use various animals' tissue, and that's where this kind of contamination enters in. Of course, I'm not even mentioning the standard chemicals like formaldehyde, mercury, and aluminum which are purposely put into vaccines.

Q: This information is pretty staggering.

A: Yes. And I'm just mentioning some of the biological contaminants. Who knows how many others there are? Others we don't find because we don't think to look for them. If tissue from, say, a bird is used to make a vaccine, how many possible germs can be in that tissue? We have no idea. We have no idea what they might be, or what effects they could have on humans.

Q: And beyond the purity issue?

A: You are dealing with the basic faulty premise about vaccines. That they intricately stimulate the immune system to create the conditions for immunity from disease. That is the bad premise. It doesn't work that way. A vaccine is supposed to "create" antibodies which, indirectly, offer protection against disease. However, the immune system is much larger and more involved than antibodies and their related "killer cells."

Q: The immune system is?

A: The entire body, really. Plus the mind. It's all immune system, you might say. That is why you can have, in the middle of an epidemic, those individuals who remain healthy.

Q: So the level of general health is important.

A: More than important. Vital.

Q: How are vaccine statistics falsely presented?

A: There are many ways. For example, suppose that 25 people who have received the hepatitis B vaccine come down with hepatitis. Well, hep B is a liver disease. But you can call liver disease many things. You can change the diagnosis. Then, you've concealed the root cause of the problem.

Q: And that happens?

A: All the time. It HAS to happen, if the doctors automatically assume that people who get vaccines DO NOT come down with the diseases they are now supposed to be protected from. And that is exactly what doctors assume. You see, it's circular reasoning. It's a closed system. It admits no fault. No possible fault. If a person who gets a vaccine against hepatitis gets hepatitis, or gets some other disease, the automatic assumption is, this had nothing to do with the disease.

Q: In your years working in the vaccine establishment, how many doctors did you encounter who admitted that vaccines were a problem?

A: None. There were a few who privately questioned what they were doing. But they would never go public, even within their companies.

Q: What was the turning point for you?

A: I had a friend whose baby died after a DPT shot.

Q: Did you investigate?

A: Yes, informally. I found that this baby was completely healthy before the vaccination. There was no reason for his death, except the vaccine. That started my doubts. Of course, I wanted to believe that the baby had gotten a bad shot from a bad lot. But as I looked into this further, I found that was not the case in this instance. I was being drawn into a spiral of doubt that increased over time. I continued to investigate. I found that, contrary to what I thought, vaccines are not tested in a scientific way.

Q: What do you mean?

A: For example, no long-term studies are done on any vaccines. Long-term follow-up is not done in any careful way. Why? Because, again, the assumption is made that vaccines do not cause problems. So why should anyone check? On top of that, a vaccine reaction is defined so that all bad reactions are said to occur very soon after the shot is given. But that does not make sense.

Q: Why doesn't it make sense?

A: Because the vaccine obviously acts in the body for a long period of time after it is given. A reaction can be gradual. Deterioration can be gradual. Neurological problems can develop over time. They do in various conditions, even according to a conventional analysis. So why couldn't that be the case with vaccines? If chemical poisoning can occur gradually, why couldn't that be the case with a vaccine which contains mercury?

Q: And that is what you found?

A: Yes. You are dealing with correlations, most of the time.Correlations are not perfect. But if you get 500 parents whose children have suffered neurological damage during a one-year period after having a vaccine, this should be sufficient to spark off an intense investigation.

Q: Has it been enough?

A: No. Never. This tells you something right away.

Q: Which is?

A: The people doing the investigation are not really interested in looking at the facts. They assume that the vaccines are safe. So, when they do investigate, they invariably come up with exonerations of the vaccines. They say, "This vaccine is safe." But what do they base those judgments on? They base them on definitions and ideas which automatically rule out a condemnation of the vaccine.

Q: There are numerous cases where a vaccine campaign has failed. Where people have come down with the disease against which they were vaccinated.

A: Yes, there are many such instances. And there the evidence is simply ignored. It's discounted. The experts say, if they say anything at all, that this is just an isolated situation, but overall the vaccine has been shown to be safe. But if you add up all the vaccine campaigns where damage and disease have occurred, you realize that these are NOT isolated situations.

Q: Did you ever discuss what we are talking about here with colleagues, when you were still working in the vaccine establishment?

A: Yes I did.

Q: What happened?

A: Several times I was told to keep quiet. It was made clear that I should go back to work and forget my misgivings. On a few occasions, I encountered fear. Colleagues tried to avoid me. They felt they could be labeled with "guilt by association." All in all, though, I behaved myself.I made sure I didn't create problems for myself.

Q: If vaccines actually do harm, why are they given?

A: First of all, there is no "if." They do harm. It becomes a more difficult question to decide whether they do harm in those people who seem to show no harm. Then you are dealing with the kind of research which should be done, but isn't. Researchers should be probing to discover a kind of map, or flow chart, which shows exactly what vaccines do in the body from the moment they enter. This research has not been done. As to why they are given, we could sit here for two days and discuss all the reasons. As you've said many times, at different layers of the system people have their motives. Money, fear of losing a job, the desire to win brownie points, prestige, awards, promotion, misguided idealism, unthinking habit, and so on. But, at the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but it's true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these depopulation interests. There is an underground, shall we say, in Africa, made up of various officials who are earnestly trying to change the lot of the poor. This network of people knows what is going on. They know that vaccines have been used, and are being used, to destroy their countries, to make them ripe for takeover by globalist powers. I have had the opportunity to speak with several of these people from this network.

Q: Is Thabo Mbeki, the president of South Africa, aware of the situation?

A: I would say he is partially aware. Perhaps he is not utterly convinced, but he is on the way to realizing the whole truth. He already knows that HIV is a hoax. He knows that the AIDS drugs are poisons which destroy the immune system. He also knows that if he speaks out, in any way, about the vaccine issue, he will be branded a lunatic. He has enough trouble after his stand on the AIDS issue.

Q: This network you speak of.

A: It has accumulated a huge amount of information about vaccines. The question is, how is a successful strategy going to be mounted? For these people, that is a difficult issue.

Q: And in the industrialized nations?

A: The medical cartel has a stranglehold, but it is diminishing. Mainly because people have the freedom to question medicines. However, if the choice issue [the right to take or reject any medicine] does not gather steam, these coming mandates about vaccines against biowarefare germs are going to win out. This is an important time.

Q: The furor over the hepatits B vaccine seems one good avenue.

A: I think so, yes. To say that babies must have the vaccine-and then in the next breath, admitting that a person gets hep B from sexual contacts and shared needles -- is a ridiculous juxtaposition. Medical authorities try to cover themselves by saying that 20,000 or so children in the US get hep B every year from "unknown causes," and that's why every baby must have the vaccine. I dispute that 20,00 figure and the so-called studies that back it up.

Q: Andrew Wakefield, the British MD who uncovered the link between the MMR vaccine and autism, has just been fired from his job in a London hospital.

A: Yes. Wakefield performed a great service. His correlations between the vaccine and autism are stunning. Perhaps you know that Tony Blair's wife is involved with alternative health. There is the possibility that their child has not been given the MMR. Blair recently side-stepped the question in press interviews, and made it seem that he was simply objecting to invasive questioning of his "personal and family life." In any event, I believe his wife has been muzzled. I think, if given the chance, she would at least say she is sympathetic to all the families who have come forward and stated that their children were severely damaged by the MMR.

Q: British reporters should try to get through to her.

A: They have been trying. But I think she has made a deal with her husband to keep quiet, no matter what. She could do a great deal of good if she breaks her promise. I have been told she is under pressure, and not just from her husband. At the level she occupies, MI6 and British health authorities get into the act. It is thought of as a matter of national security.

Q: Well, it is national security, once you understand the medical cartel.

A: It is global security. The cartel operates in every nation. It zealously guards the sanctity of vaccines. Questioning these vaccines is on the same level as a Vatican bishop questioning the sanctity of the sacrament of the Eucharist in the Catholic Church.

Q: I know that a Hollywood celebrity stating publicly that he will not take a vaccine is committing career suicide.

A: Hollywood is linked very powerfully to the medical cartel. There are several reasons, but one of them is simply that an actor who is famous can draw a huge amount of publicity if he says ANYTHING. In 1992, I was present at your demonstration against the FDA in downtown Los Angeles. One or two actors spoke against the FDA. Since that time, you would be hard pressed to find an actor who has spoken out in any way against the medical cartel.

Q: Within the National Institutes of Health, what is the mood, what is the basic frame of mind?

A: People are competing for research monies. The last thing they think about is challenging the status quo. They are already in an intramural war for that money. They don't need more trouble. This is a very insulated system. It depends on the idea that, by and large, modern medicine is very successful on every frontier. To admit systemic problems in any area is to cast doubt on the whole enterprise. You might therefore think that NIH is the last place one should think about holding demonstrations. But just the reverse is true. If five thousand people showed up there demanding an accounting of the actual benefits of that research system, demanding to know what real health benefits have been conferred on the public from the billions of wasted dollars funneled to that facility, something might start. A spark might go off. You might get, with further demonstrations, all sorts of fall-out. Researchers -- a few -- might start leaking information.

Q: A good idea.

A: People in suits standing as close to the buildings as the police will allow. People in business suits, in jogging suits, mothers and babies. Well-off people. Poor people. All sorts of people.

Q: What about the combined destructive power of a number of vaccines given to babies these days?

A: It is a travesty and a crime. There are no real studies of any depth which have been done on that. Again, the assumption is made that vaccines are safe, and therefore any number of vaccines given together are safe as well. But the truth is, vaccines are not safe. Therefore the potential damage increases when you give many of them in a short time period.

Q: Then we have the fall flu season.

A: Yes. As if only in the autumn do these germs float in to the US from Asia. The public swallows that premise. If it happens in April, it is a bad cold. If it happens in October, it is the flu.

Q: Do you regret having worked all those years in the vaccine field?

A: Yes. But after this interview, I'll regret it a little less. And I work in other ways. I give out information to certain people, when I think they will use it well.

Q: What is one thing you want the public to understand?

A: That the burden of proof in establishing the safety and efficacy of vaccines is on the people who manufacture and license them for public use. Just that. The burden of proof is not on you or me. And for proof you need well-designed long-term studies. You need extensive follow-up. You need to interview mothers and pay attention to what mothers say about their babies and what happens to them after vaccination. You need all these things. The things that are not there.

Q: The things that are not there.

A: Yes.

Q: To avoid any confusion, I'd like you to review, once more, the disease problems that vaccines can cause. Which diseases, how that happens.

A: We are basically talking about two potential harmful outcomes. One, the person gets the disease from the vaccine. He gets the disease which the vaccine is supposed to protect him from. Because, some version of the disease is in the vaccine to begin with. Or two, he doesn't get THAT disease, but at some later time, maybe right away, maybe not, he develops another condition which is caused by the vaccine. That condition could be autism, what's called autism, or it could be some other disease like meningitis. He could become mentally disabled.

Q: Is there any way to compare the relative frequency of these different outcomes?

A: No. Because the follow-up is poor. We can only guess. If you ask, out of a population of a hundred thousand children who get a measles vaccine, how many get the measles, and how many develop other problems from the vaccine, there is a no reliable answer. That is what I'm saying. Vaccines are superstitions. And with superstitions, you don't get facts you can use. You only get stories, most of which are designed to enforce the superstition. But, from many vaccine campaigns, we can piece together a narrative that does reveal some very disturbing things. People have been harmed. The harm is real, and it can be deep and it can mean death. The harm is NOT limited to a few cases, as we have been led to believe.In the US, there are groups of mothers who are testifying about autism and childhood vaccines. They are coming forward and standing up at meetings.They are essentially trying to fill in the gap that has been created by the researchers and doctors who turn their backs on the whole thing.

Q: Let me ask you this. If you took a child in, say, Boston and you raised that child with good nutritious food and he exercised every day and he was loved by his parents, and he didn't get the measles vaccine, what would be his health status compared with the average child in Boston who eats poorly and watches five hours of TV a day and gets the measles vaccine?

A: Of course there are many factors involved, but I would bet on the better health status for the first child. If he gets measles, if he gets it when he is nine, the chances are it will be much lighter than the measles the second child might get. I would bet on the first child every time.

Q: How long did you work with vaccines?

A: A long time. Longer than ten years.

Q: Looking back now, can you recall any good reason to say that vaccines are successful?

A: No, I can't. If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination. I would move out of the state if I had to. I would change the family name. I would disappear. With my family. I'm not saying it would come to that. There are ways to sidestep the system with grace, if you know how to act. There are exemptions you can declare, in every state, based on religious and/or philosophic views. But if push came to shove, I would go on the move.

Q: And yet there are children everywhere who do get vaccines and appear to be healthy.

A: The operative word is "appear." What about all the children who can't focus on their studies? What about the children who have tantrums from time to time? What about the children who are not quite in possession of all their mental faculties? I know there are many causes for these things, but vaccines are one cause. I would not take the chance. I see no reason to take the chance. And frankly, I see no reason to allow the government to have the last word. Government medicine is, from my experience, often a contradiction in terms. You get one or the other, but not both.

Q: So we come to the level playing field.

A: Yes. Allow those who want the vaccines to take them. Allow the dissidents to decline to take them. But, as I said earlier, there is no level playing field if the field is strewn with lies. And when babies are involved, you have parents making all the decisions. Those parents need a heavy dose of truth. What about the child I spoke of who died from the DPT shot? What information did his parents act on? I can tell you it was heavily weighted. It was not real information.

Q: Medical PR people, in concert with the press, scare the hell out of parents with dire scenarios about what will happen if their kids don't get shots.

A: They make it seem a crime to refuse the vaccine. They equate it with bad parenting. You fight that with better information. It is always a challenge to buck the authorities. And only you can decide whether to do it. It is every person's responsibility to make up his mind. The medical cartel likes that bet. It is betting that the fear will win.