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    Quote Posted by Melinda (here)
    Hmmm. Anyone interested in methods of election-rigging may find this of interest.
    Credit and thanks to Melinda on the Here and Now thread. Apologies if this was covered. Between this thread, other threads, and my own go to favorites, it’s a challenge to keep it all straight.

    Top Scientist Reveals How Google and Facebook Are Going
    To Steal The 2020 Election
    (14:51 minutes)

    During the 7-16-19 Senate hearing on Google and censorship was underway during and former editor of "Psychology Today," Dr Robert Epstein.

    Transcript snippets:

    Re: Google's manipulation of votes gave at least 2.6 million additional votes to Hillary Clinton in the year 2016.
    “…with respect I must correct you. The 2.6 million is a rock bottom minimum. The range is between 2.6 and 10.4 million depending on how aggressively they used the techniques that I've been studying now for six-and-a-half years…”

    “…Here are just three disturbing findings from my research which adheres to the highest standards of scientific integrity. Number one, in 2016, Google search algorithm likely impacted undecided voters in a way that shifted at least 2.6 million votes to Hillary Clinton whom I supported. I know this because I preserved more than 13,000 election related searches prior to election day. And Google's search results were significantly biased in favor of Secretary Clinton.

    I know the number of votes that shifted because I’ve conducted dozens of controlled experiments that measure how opinions shift when search results are biased. I call this shift SEAM, The Search Engine Manipulation effect, which I first published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2015.

    Biased search results can easily produce shifts in the opinions and voting preferences of undecided voters by up to 80% in some demographic groups because people blindly trust high-ranking search results over lower ones.

    SEAM is an especially dangerous form of influence because it is in effect subliminal it also leaves no paper trail for authorities to trace. It’s an example of a short-lived or quote “ephemeral experience”…”

    {snip}


    July 17, 2019

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    Q drops #3455-3457 - click to enlarge images - I'll add any new drops to this post over the next few hours - KE

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    to be continued ...

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    @ RunningDeer

    "Top Scientist Reveals How Google and Facebook Are Going
    To Steal The 2020 Election"

    "They" can "try" ("they" will fail)

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    A blog post which helps to clarify why researchers are claiming Ilhan Omar's marriage is Fraudulent.
    Photos and screenshots are on the original post.



    David Steinberg: Tying up loose threads in the curious case

    In four intensely reported investigative columns — here (August 13, 2018), here (October 23, 2018), here (October 30, 2018), and here (November 5, 2018), — David Steinberg has explored the evidence suggesting that Ilhan Omar entered into a sham marriage with her brother in 2009. This is his fifth. He titles it “Meet Leila Elmi: The Missing Link Showing Ilhan Omar Married Her Brother.” Drawing on his research, interviews, and social media evidence he makes the case that Omar has engaged in a variety of fraudulent activities and willful misrepresentations related to her marital arrangements. He writes:

    On October 22, 2008, the U.S. State Department stopped accepting applications for the Priority 3/Refugee Family Reunification program — the process by which refugees can apply for asylum if one family member is already a legal U.S. resident. State halted the program because DNA testing — primarily of Somalis — had concluded that perhaps 87 percent of applicants were fraudulently claiming family relationships.

    Despite continuing war, Somalia of 2008 was not comparable to the open hell of the early 1990s, when an eight-year-old Ilhan and her family fled to Kenya’s Dadaab refugee camps. She lived there from 1991 until 1995, aged eight to 12. Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services then helped Ilhan, her sister Sahra, and their father Nur Said receive asylum in the United States along with thousands of other Somalis.

    The complicated moral question of fraud, let alone fault, among this 1990s wave of refugees escaping civil war will never be answered with accurate statistics. We will have to settle for adjectives like “widespread” and “rampant.” Yet the negative outcomes cannot be ignored. Even refugees with strong desire to assimilate with Western civic order are hampered by the possible discovery of conflicting documents. And compromising information becomes leverage in a community already difficult to police.

    Twelve-year-old Ilhan had no say on the manner in which she arrived in the United States.

    However, U.S. Congresswoman Ilhan Abdullahi Omar (D-MN) is now under scrutiny for acts she took beginning in 2009 — not 1995. In 2009, Omar was a 26-year-old U.S. citizen. She had been a U.S. citizen for nearly nine years.

    Additionally, the foreign national Omar apparently helped commit fraud was not fleeing hell in 2009, either. Ahmed Nur Said Elmi was a long-time citizen of the United Kingdom. He even possessed a high school diploma from the United States: Elmi attended a St. Paul, Minnesota high school for his senior year of 2002-2003, and graduated before returning to London.

    We look to 1995 not to incriminate a kid, but to answer questions about what Omar did 14 years later as an adult U.S. citizen.

    Please read the verified evidence below — and read it alongside the three years of verified evidence published by Scott Johnson, Preya Samsundar, and myself (our work is linked here). The answers to those questions about 2009 appear to give probable cause to investigate Omar for eight instances of perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, up to eight years of state and federal tax fraud, two years of federal student loan fraud, and even bigamy.

    To be clear: The facts describe perhaps the most extensive spree of illegal misconduct committed by a House member in American history.

    ———————-

    The proceeding information was given to me by multiple sources within the Minneapolis Somali community. The verifiable evidence corroborating their information follows below:

    In 1995, Ilhan entered the United States as a fraudulent member of the “Omar” family.

    That is not her family. The Omar family is a second, unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the United States. The Omars allowed Ilhan, her genetic sister Sahra, and her genetic father Nur Said to use false names to apply for asylum as members of the Omar family.

    Ilhan’s genetic family split up at this time. The above three received asylum in the United States, while Ilhan’s three other siblings — using their real names — managed to get asylum in the United Kingdom.

    Ilhan Abdullahi Omar’s name, before applying for asylum, was Ilhan Nur Said Elmi.

    Her father’s name before applying for asylum was Nur Said Elmi Mohamed. Her sister Sahra Noor’s name before applying for asylum was Sahra Nur Said Elmi. Her three siblings who were granted asylum by the United Kingdom are Leila Nur Said Elmi, Mohamed Nur Said Elmi, and Ahmed Nur Said Elmi.

    Ilhan and Ahmed married in 2009, presumably to benefit in some way from a fraudulent marriage. They did not divorce until 2017.

    Above: This chart summarizes how multiple sources in the Minneapolis Somali community describe key events in the life of MN Representative Ilhan Abdullahi Omar — whom these sources state was born as “Ilhan Nur Said Elmi.”

    ———————-

    Confirming some of the above information, as it might appear on their 1995 U.S. immigration papers, is not difficult. A basic background search shows that “Nur Omar Mohamed,” “Ilhan Abdullahi Omar,” and “Sahra Noor” all received SSNs in 1995 or 1996 in Virginia. Verified address records show adult members of the Omars living at three addresses in Arlington, Virginia at that time: 1223 South Thomas Street, 1226 South Thomas Street, and 1107 South Thomas Street.

    The United Kingdom records of the relevant individuals are similarly easy to find. Try with a simple Ancestry.com account and similar online tools: There appears to be only one “Leila Nur Said Elmi,” only one “Mohamed Nur Said Elmi,” and only one “Ahmed Nur Said Elmi” in the UK.

    The remaining evidence below verifies a sibling relationship between Ilhan and Ahmed.

    ————————

    Sahra Noor is the only person Ilhan Omar has ever publicly identified as her sister. Ilhan and Sahra have also, publicly and often, referred to the same man as their father. And, per Preya Samsundar’s 2016 investigation, they both identified this man as “Nur Said”:

    The above image, a screenshot of Sahra Noor’s confirmed Facebook account, was first published by Preya Samsundar in 2016.

    He also identifies himself as “Nur Said”.

    See below — this is a screenshot of his current Facebook account. As of this article’s publication, it is active and searchable by anyone online. (I have archived his page with archive.is):

    Note this thumbnail of “Leyla Cilmi,” listed as a friend of Nur Said.

    In 2018, as I published a series of articles investigating Ilhan’s past, this account name changed from “Leila Elmi” to “Leyla Cilmi.”

    However, the URL did not change. It still refers to “leila.elmi”:

    Below, see the 1997 marriage certificate for the only Leila Nur Said Elmi listed in the United Kingdom.

    I retrieved this certified copy from a government records center in London in February of this year; note the date in the document’s lower right corner. This is a public record. Anyone can retrieve this document to verify its authenticity.

    See that Leila attests to her father’s name being “Nur Said Elmi”:

    So far, we have verifiable evidence that Ilhan Abdullahi Omar, Sahra Noor, and Leila Nur Said Elmi referring to their respective fathers as “Nur Said” or “Nur Said Elmi.”

    Next, we have verifiable evidence showing the three are sisters, and are all referring to the same man.
    ——————–

    See below: These two posts appeared on Ilhan Omar’s confirmed Instagram account in 2013 and 2015, respectively. (Instagram user “hameey” became the blue-checked “IlhanMN” account at some point in 2016. A cursory search through older posts on the “IlhanMN” account still reveals many instances of commenters addressing “IlhanMN” as “hameey.”)

    In August 2016 — after Scott Johnson and Preya Samsundar originally broke the story about Ilhan’s curious marriage — the below post disappeared from Ilhan Omar’s Instagram account.

    However, a source within the Minneapolis Somali community had downloaded much of Omar’s Instagram account before posts were deleted.

    The source recently reviewed these two deleted posts, recognized their significance, and sent them to me via email. I made these emails available to Power Line to confirm how I received these posts, and to confirm that this particular source had provided several other pieces of information that had proven authentic and verifiable:

    You are looking at what appears to be Leila Elmi, Nur Said, and Ilhan Omar — together. According to Ilhan, they are pictured on an August 2011 trip to East Africa.

    Now, see below: You are looking at what appears to be Leila Elmi in white, Ilhan in black, and Ilhan’s amazing caption in red:

    Further, the above post, with the #londontrip hashtag, depicts Ilhan Omar’s infamous 2015 trip to the UK. This is the same trip on which Ilhan was photographed with Ahmed Nur Said Elmi himself:

    Below, see one more piece of evidence establishing Leila Elmi as Ilhan’s sister. This post is currently live, and I have archived it.

    In December 2016, Ilhan reported that she was harassed by a cab driver while in Washington, D.C. attending meetings. She claimed that the cab driver called her “ISIS” and threatened to remove her hijab. A few days later, Ilhan filed a report with the D.C. Department of For-Hire Vehicles and the D.C. Office of Human Rights.

    Ilhan initially stated that she was accompanied in the cab by her “sister.” A Star Tribune reporter in 2016 claimed to have a copy of her complaint, and that it stated she had been in the cab with her sister.

    I few months ago, I received a copy of Ilhan’s report via FOIA request. The description of the person Ilhan had been in the cab with was redacted.

    Suleiman Axoow, per his profile, is a frequent host of social events for the Washington, D.C. Somali-American community. On December 9, 2016, Suleiman Axoow stated that he was with Ilhan soon after the cab incident:

    On Wednesday night I had an opportunity to have dinner with State Representative-Elect Ilhan Omar & her lovely sis Leila Elmi …

    Check the “Edit History” on Suleiman’s Axoow’s post. He even initially included a link to the Leila Elmi/Leyla Cilmi account:

    It is not plausible to believe that Axoow simply made a mistake.

    One would have to believe that Axoow:

    Had dinner with Ilhan and a second woman;
    that the woman was introduced to him as any other person alive;
    and that a couple days later he made the 1-in-7-billion mistake of misremembering this woman as Ilhan Omar’s “lovely sis Leila Elmi.” A random name of a woman from England he has no clear reason to know.

    Ilhan has steadfastly refused to give media the names of any of her siblings besides Sahra Noor. The only rational explanation: Leila Elmi was in the United States to visit Ilhan Omar, attended this dinner with her, and Ilhan (carelessly?) introduced her as Axoow describes.

    We now have verifiable evidence that Ilhan Omar, Sahra Noor, and Leila Elmi are siblings with a father named Nur Said Elmi.

    All that remains is to verify our sources’ claims that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi is indeed Leila Nur Said Elmi’s brother.

    ————————-

    We have a great, easy start: Leila and Ahmed already appear to be two of the only three “Nur Said Elmis” in the United Kingdom.

    Next, view the marriage certificate again: It attests that Leila Nur Said Elmi lived in Camden, a borough of London, in 1997, and that she was 24 years old at the time.

    Ahmed Nur Said Elmi was 12 in 1997. Per his own admission, he attended a school in Camden for students aged 11 to 18: Haverstock School. (See its address here; “Camden” is in the school’s URL: https://www.haverstock.camden.sch.uk/.)

    This link on Ahmed’s confirmed Facebook account is currently live, and I have archived the page:

    (Note that he lists his current location as “Nairobi, Kenya.” See here for definitive evidence that Ahmed has recently been working in Nairobi with — of all people — Sahra Noor.)

    Back in August 2016, Preya Samsundar posted two finds now worth revisiting:

    Ahmed Nur Said Elmi’s Instagram post calling two young twin girls with a backpack from a primary school in Camden his “nieces.” Ilhan’s Instagram account “loved” the post.
    Ilhan’s Instagram post picturing herself with the same twin girls. Ilhan marked her location as “Camden Lock Village.” Ilhan also calls the girls “her nieces.” The post is yet another that is tagged #londontrip from 2015.

    The twin girls are, indeed, the daughters of Leila Nur Said Elmi. This can be confirmed by anyone through posts that are currently active on Mohamed Nur Said Elmi’s Facebook account.

    We now have verifiable evidence that:

    Sahra Noor, Ilhan Omar, and Leila Elmi are siblings with a father named Nur Said Elmi.
    Leila Elmi and Ahmed Nur Said Elmi both lived in the same neighborhood of London, and know each other.
    Both Ilhan Omar and Ahmed Nur Said Elmi call Leila Elmi’s children “nieces.”

    ——————–

    Earlier this year, a source gave me one more piece of information that would inform UK law enforcement — if granted a warrant — where to locate conclusive proof that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi married his sister Ilhan Omar.

    Ahmed Nur Said Elmi apparently arrived in the United Kingdom in 1995 or 1996, only 10 or 11 years old, without a parent. Who looked after him until he arrived in the United States in 2002?

    According to my sources, it was Leila.

    There is no adoption record (which can be public in the UK); it would have been a “Kinship Care” or “Family and Friends Carer” arrangement. I am advised that Haverstock School would have records of student Ahmed Nur Said Elmi living at the same address as Leila Elmi with her listed as his guardian.

    However, these two very recent posts — currently active on Instagram and archived — already put a nice bow on everything. Here are Leila and Ahmed calling each other “mum” and “son”:

    —————-

    On August 10, 2017, Ilhan swore under penalty of perjury — literally, she signed a half-inch or so under “penalty of perjury” — that she’d had zero contact with Ahmed Nur Said Elmi after June 2011.

    Further, Ilhan swore that she did not know where to find him, and that she did not know a single person who was likely to know his whereabouts. She did this to apply for a default divorce from Ahmed — a divorce where one spouse cannot be located and served.

    Now, a tremendous amount of evidence — from this article and our prior articles — shows that Ilhan perhaps perjured herself eight times with her nine answers. Minnesota’s perjury statute allows for a sentence of up to five years — for each instance:

    Yet this may be the least worrisome of her current legal exposures.

    Consider the disturbingly inadequate evidence used to obtain FISA warrants on members of Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. Consider that Democratic representatives have demanded that Attorney General William Barr release grand jury testimony — itself an illegal act.

    Yet here we have:

    Verifiable UK and U.S. marriage records
    Verifiable address records
    Time-stamped, traceable, archived online communications (Convictions and settlements based upon social media evidence are commonplace, Anthony Weiner being a notable example)
    Background check confirmations of SSNs and birthdates
    Archived court documents signed under penalty of perjury
    Photos which can be examined to rule out digital manipulation
    The 2019 Minnesota Campaign Finance and Public Disclosure Board investigation, which found Omar filed illegal joint tax returns with a man who was not her husband in at least 2014 and 2015
    Three years’ of evidence published across many articles — none of which has been shown to be incorrect, or have even been challenged with contradictory evidence from Rep. Omar or any other source
    Perjury evidence that stands on its own — regardless of whom she married:
    Long after June 2011, she was clearly in contact with the only man in either the U.S. or the UK with the same name and birthdate as the man she married. She was clearly in contact with several people who were in contact with him.
    Further, Preya Samsundar did contact him, published how she managed to contact him, and published his email admitting to being photographed with Omar in London in 2015. To be clear: Omar was legally married to an “Ahmed Nur Said Elmi” at the time she was photographed next to a man who admits his name is Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, and that he is in the photo.
    Samsundar published all of this information on how to contact Ahmed Nur Said Elmi a few months before Omar swore to that nine-question court document.
    Rep. Omar has refused all inquiries from her constituents, elected officials, and media outlets to provide any specific evidence contradicting even a single allegation suggested by three years of now-public information.
    In fact, Omar has responded by making information less available:
    In August 2016, after Scott Johnson and Preya Samsundar posted the allegations, Omar’s verified social media accounts were taken offline.
    Ahmed Nur Said Elmi’s social media accounts were also taken offline.
    When the accounts returned, a large amount of potentially incriminating evidence had verifiably been deleted.
    I found and published at least ten additional “before and after” instances of evidence still being deleted in 2018.
    Omar has released carefully worded, Clintonian statements that denigrate those seeking answers from her as racists. Yet she has repeatedly refused to answer questions or issue anything other than public relations statements.
    I have a large amount of information that we have not published for reasons including the protection of sources.
    Sources have expressed fear regarding published video and photo evidence confirming threats from Omar’s campaign team. These sources have shared other evidence of threats. I have contacted the federal authorities to share this and other unpublished information. Providing knowingly false information to the DOJ is a serious crime.

    I believe Scott Johnson, Preya Samsundar, and me, with our three years of articles, columns and posts, have provided more than enough evidence to give law enforcement authorities probable cause to open an investigation. Now would be the chance for law enforcement, and especially for Rep. Ilhan Omar’s House colleagues, to make a sincere stand against corruption and for the uniform application of the law.


    Source: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...rious-case.php
    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
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    to be continued ...
    The date on the watch is 19. Trump &/or tomorrow is 7/19/2019.

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    Hope you had a good “Q Day” yesterday. How can you question that one? The beautiful “Q Baby” will go down in the annals of Q-dom. A real Q-D-Pi in his home-made outfit. Thanks for the meme, R.

    For those not sure why this is a solid, irrefutable proof that Q is real and validated by the President, the “Q” was only on the baby’s back, where Trump couldn’t see it, so he had to know about the plan and had agreed to give the Patriots this gift. He went on and on about this beautiful baby and you couldn’t possibly have missed the cue. (but perhaps the Q, as I did) I knew he was up to something though.

    Thank you, President Trump. Some people are just so afraid of being tricked they ignored all the proofs and the logic showing us that Q could not be a trick or a LARP. General Flynn gave a powerful clue in his speech


    July 17th… the day JFK Jr.’s plane went down, (so we’re told) and 17 is Q-day, obviously, as the 17th letter of the alphabet, and that confirmation at the rally is unarguably the best Q proof yet that I’ve seen.

    Okay that falls in with the rally that Kiwi posted further on down the road. Here is some real good stuff to follow from BCP

    As BCP sees the present deep state strategy…

    THEY’RE DISTRACTING US WITH THE SAME OL’ TWEET STORY SO THAT TRUMP’S HUGE WINS TODAY GO UNREPORTED.



    This next one is from SerialBrain2 and it sounds like outstanding news for us all, around the world if I may so. This is about the removal of the chemtrails and the cleansing of the poisons in our air folks. This is definitely great news but will have to continue to monitor on my own. I must say that I have not seen any chemtrailing for about a month now here in my neck of the woods. The video also goes into some more in depth news on Epstein.

    LT uploaded his latest video accompaniment for SerialBrain2’s “chemtrails” Part 2 decode. I tacked it onto the dedicated SerialBrain2 post from yesterday but not until today.

    I knew the osprey could shift the props but I didn’t realize it was such a “transformer” type of craft so the video SB shared was very cool to see.

    SerialBrain2: Trump confirms he took control of the chemtrails and reveals more!



    And here is just one more to let run free

    WWG1WGA!!!



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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
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    If you look close enough you might see….
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    to be continued ...
    The date on the watch is 19. Trump &/or tomorrow is 7/19/2019.

    I cannot wait for what is going to happen today (I live in EST so it is 1:06 am.) This may actually be EPIC!!!!!!!

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    Neon has another long article up.

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2019/07/1...ng-neonrevolt/

    I am still early on wading through it, but wanted to post this excerpt now, and may add to this later..

    For the Q and Trump are in Israel's pocket crowd, this Neon research, following the tips over time from Q and the anons, sure seems to be leading toward's major exposure of Mossad and related groups' influence in the sad, long-term middle-east situation.

    I could see that over time finally opening up the 9/11 worm-can as well.

    Sure seems....



    Quote #QBABY and MEGA Revelations! #NewQ #QAnon #GreatAwakening #NEONREVOLT
    July 18, 2019 by Neon Revolt


    But part of the reason I wanted to bring this to your attention is because… there was something here, in one of the responses to the above Anon that I haven’t see anywhere else.





    Does Epstein bring down the House of Commons?

    Interesting question, is it not?

    I don’t know if this is a “tripless” Q posting, or a “helper,” or just a LARP, but man… this presents some avenues for thought that frankly haven’t been explored anywhere else yet, to my knowledge. And this is what I wanted to start to delve into, first.

    The context for this drop is the resignation of UK ambassador Darroch just a short while ago, following Trump’s visit to the UK:

    ….

    The CIA/drug running angle doesn’t surprise me at all, considering Epstein’s ties to Les Wexner – and how Wexner shared an airline that ran cargo for the CIA out of Hong Kong:
    While Epstein was managing Wexner’s money it would have been hard for him not to notice that the latter’s company was importing clothing from Hong Kong on an airline run by the CIA. Southern Air Transport has a long history of drug smuggling going back to Vietnam era. It’s regularly scheduled flights from Hong Kong for The Limited were the cornerstone of the local development push to convert Rickenbacker Air Base to Rickenbacker Airport in the 1990s. Southern Air Transport also operated the C-123 Globemaster that was shot down in Nicaragua, an event which touched off the Iran-Contra revelations.

    At the same time that Rickenbacker became a transport hub for cargo carried by CIA backed airline that was both known to smuggle drugs and involved in the Iran-Contra affair, Wexner’s connections to organized crime were named in a Columbus Police intelligence report. A trucking company linked to the mob was also named in that report. That trucking company carried up thirty percent of The Limited’s ground cargo. The CIA handled the air cargo, the mob handled the ground cargo and Epstein balanced the books. This peculiar set of business arrangements seem to shed light on the need for multiple armored Mercedes and phones that go to command centers.
    And the Q-fans out there will love this next bit:
    Southern Air Transport ran into money trouble and it’s route was taken over by Evergreen Aviation, which also had a history of connection to the CIA. Evergreen, despite it’s own recent financial problems, still keeps one Boeing 747 in Columbus and still maintains regular service to Hong Kong.
    The only terminal that can serve that aircraft is owned by Landmark Aviation.
    Evergreen again. Wonder if Hillary “Evergreen” Clinton had her fingers in this?

    ..

    The allegations being leveled against Epstein include trafficking minors for sex across international boundaries. The logistics of getting a minor across a border for such purposes would be much less complicated with the help of a Customs facility located in a friendly private facility operated by a company familiar with covert operations and making people disappear. Epstein is clearly no stranger to navigating that social space. Landmark even offers valet parking for the armored Mercedes.

    Taking one step back to look beyond Florida and another step back to look into history and one views a different picture. It is of a billionaire and a spy’s daughter providing minors for sex to very important people in a house full of cameras. That same billionaire has an armored Mercedes, a friend with a command center, business relations with multiple CIA backed airlines, connections to the mob, many friends in the media and was associated with the false PR that lead to the Iraq war. This should have more bearing on Hillary Clinton’s election prospects than the recent location of her husband’s cigars.



    But ultimately, regardless of where this post came from, this post is a good reminder that there is a level of interconnectedness among intelligence agencies (like the CIA and Mossad), and foreign governments that most simply cannot fathom. We’ve already explored previous, for instance, the UK’s involvement in the origins of the Steele Dossier (specifically in regard to the Queen’s Privvy Council):

    < after a long discussion of the Bronfman / Rothchild organized crime network built during the depression.. >

    And who ran the Chicago mob after the fall of Al Capone?
    None other than Hillary Clinton’s father:




    < history of Mega group >

    Steinberg continues:

    While all of the above-mentioned Bush- and Clinton-era national security operatives may have been, indeed, secretly, or not-so-secretly passing critical American policy papers and classified documents to the Likud faction in Israel; and, while then-Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and his Mossad mandarins may have been attempting to blackmail the President, there is a much simpler answer to the Mega puzzle: Mega was not a deep mole inside the White House. Mega was a far more visible, far more powerful entity, known among its several dozen members as “the Mega Group.”
    The existence of the Mega Group came to light, almost exactly a year after the Washington Post revealed that the mole hunt was under way. Yet, the story of the Mega Group, which appeared in the Wall Street Journal on May 4, 1998, made no mention of espionage, and did not mention the Mossad, the CIA, or Monica Lewinsky, even in passing.
    Despite that, the Mega Group precisely fits the story of the illusive mole hunt, in a manner that has profound policy implications to this day, as President George W. Bush struggles to avoid an outbreak of war in the Middle East, which would have devastating consequences for the entire planet.
    Under the innocent headline, “Titans of Industry Join Forces To Work for Jewish Philanthropy,” Wall Street Journal staff reporter Lisa Miller reported on an April 1998 gathering of some 20 Jewish billionaires, at the Manhattan apartment of hedge-fund manager Michael Steinhardt. That gathering involved some of the most powerful names in the Jewish lobby in America, starting with Edgar Bronfman, the chairman of the World Jewish Congress. Others included: Charles Bronfman, Edgar’s brother and a top executive of the family’s flagship Seagrams Corp.; Leslie Wexler of Limited, Inc.; Charles Schusterman, chairman of Samson Investment Co. of Tulsa, Oklahoma; Harvey “Bud” Meyerhoff, a fabulously wealthy and powerful Baltimore real estate magnate; Laurence Tisch, chairman of Loews Corp.; Max Fisher, the Detroit oil magnate and Republican Party powerhouse; bagel magnate Max Lender; and Leonard Abramson, the founder of U.S. Healthcare.

    [B]According to the Journal account, the Mega Group was founded in 1991 by Wexler and Charles Bronfman, to add greater clout to the Israeli lobby, by establishing an informal, but all-powerful policymaking group, able to deploy billions of dollars in “charitable” funds for the maximum effect on U.S. policy toward Israel, the Mideast, and other issues of paramount importance to the Jewish megabillionaires.



    an Israeli publication basically outed the Mega group as subversive agents operating in the highest halls of power:

    The Mega Group story came full circle on May 5, 2001, with the publication of a story in an obscure Israeli online publication, Media Monitors Network, by writer Israel Shamir. Shamir noted, with no lack of irony, the meeting of the Mega Group, which had taken place the previous day at the Manhattan mansion of Edgar Bronfman.

    Shamir continued, “The megabucks call themselves ‘Mega group.’ This name appeared in the media a couple of years ago, as a name for the secret Israeli mole in the upper reaches of the U.S. establishment. It came up in an overheard phone conversation, later denied by the Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C. The newshounds and spook watchers got it wrong. ‘Mega’ was not an agent, Mega was the boss.”
    With some bitterness, Shamir wrote, “Megabucks influence us, even more than they influence the U.S. Our politicians are as weak and corrupt as America’s and they are easier to swing. Even relative small-timers can cause eruption and bloodshed, like the California bingo-parlor owner [Irving] Moskowitz, who pushed our ex-prime minister Netanyahu to open the tunnel under the Haram al Sharif…. The Megabucks can buy Israel with their spare change. If they wish, we would have peace in Palestine today. But they are not interested in Israel per se…. Megabucks care for themselves, and they need Israel in order to keep the American Jews together, supporting them. That is why they do not mind bloodshed in Palestine, and even a bloody regional war does not scare them.”
    Shamir concluded: “In my opinion, Megabucks, rather than forces of Caballa, move the events in the Middle East. It is not magic, just money—but a lot of money. They do not rule America or Israel, but they exercise a lot of influence. Fifty multibillionaires united in one framework present a very real force in the world.”
    Steinberg concludes:
    Of course, Shamir does not have the picture precisely right. The Bronfman-centered Mega Group is but one component of an insane and desperate element within the transatlantic financial establishment that is now pressing for a “Clash of Civilizations,” as a means of responding to the collapse of their global financial empire, and the threat of a new set of Eurasia-centered cooperative arrangements among nations supplanting their power. But, as far as the Mega puzzle is concerned, Shamir has solved the mystery.
    No wonder Mossad boss Yatom scolded his Washington-based underling with the warning, “This is not something we use Mega for.”




    So is the Mega Group the ones ultimately behind all this Cabal destruction?
    Quite possibly! There are too many power-players clustered around it, and all of them are in close proximity to major scandal right now.
    I think it would behoove the entire community is Anons dug deep on the MEGA Group.
    Oh, and one more note before we move on! This ties into Benghazi, too
    . From a reddit comment:

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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    I cannot wait for what is going to happen today (I live in EST so it is 1:06 am.) This may actually be EPIC!!!!!!!
    I understand the reasons for the strategy for the Q clues, but I only loosely follow. In 3D real time, I’ve known too many game players and word smiths. So I tend to follow the larger picture and how it comes together. Otherwise, I would’ve drop away from Q months after it began. It’s an impatience thang.

    So the pessimist grinch in me said the watch is confirmation that President Trumps is Q+ even though it’s hard to make out the reflection. Or it could mean on July 19, 2019 @ 4:49 AM/PM is another covert action piece that brings this psy-thriller game one step closer to a major reveal, which brings us one step closer to another major reveal, which brings us ….

    I mean no disrespect. It’s a self preservation thang. I’m in full support of everyones enthusiasm and commitment to move All on the path of our next/new adventure as earth humans. It's one of the reasons why I'm here to help. It's been a long time coming.



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    I read as much related material as I can, but don't have time to watch many videos.

    I guess I am still smarting from some of the views stated by the Q-is-crap crowd, but I am not fully onboard with the Trump cheerleading and great claims made prior to clear evidence of results.

    We have some results now and expect a lot more later.

    I try and remain objective to collect research, facts, and watch how it plays out.

    The game-aspect of it and some of the psyop aspects do not help my comfort level at times, either.

    That said, I appreciate all contributions to this thread, I just am not comfortable with aligning with the 'tone' of of few points of views here myself.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I read as much related material as I can, but don't have time to watch many videos.

    I guess I am still smarting from some of the views stated by the Q-is-crap crowd, but I am not fully onboard with the Trump cheerleading and great claims made prior to clear evidence of results.

    We have some results now and expect a lot more later.

    I try and remain objective to collect research, facts, and watch how it plays out.

    The game-aspect of it and some of the psyop aspects do not help my comfort level at times, either.

    That said, I appreciate all contributions to this thread, I just am not comfortable with the 'tone' of of few points of views here myself.
    Since nothing is really verifyable I just make up my mind as to what type of a future world do I want to see.
    So I side with whistleblowers who admit that sickos and perverts are out there, and that they need to be locked away, to protect society.

    So any version that is soft on crime, and wants culprits to run free, and make excuses for their behavior, like blaming society, or parental homes, does not appeal to me.

    It is all about protection of the vulnerable, be it children or sick or elderly, a just society is more appealing to me than a permissive one.

    And that is what the Qanon so-called “psy-op” is advocating.

    I wish that every nation on earth had a leadership team that was protective of its citizens, without needing to invade their neighbors to plunder resources.

    If the US could get this final part under control that would be the ideal, and an example for all others to follow.
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    I honestly don't think that Mr. Trump realized or knew that the baby had a "Q" on the back of it's top! I doubt anyone on that stage knew that the baby was hiding that Q either. They simply couldn't see it.
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    I honestly don't think that Mr. Trump realized or knew that the baby had a "Q" on the back of it's top! I doubt anyone on that stage knew that the baby was hiding that Q either. They simply couldn't see it.
    The baby had Trump written on the front of her outfit. Maybe that was his "cue". No pun intended!

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    That said, I appreciate all contributions to this thread, I just am not comfortable with aligning with the 'tone' of of few points of views here myself.
    I'll add this for new comers. Some of the irascible posts were moved here from at least two threads: 1) Revisiting the forum’s mission 2) The ‘censorship’ discussion. A thread was created "Q" Booth for Off Topic Posts from Other Threads as a solution. Now all off topic posts will be routed into the "Q" Booth from here on out.

    I’m encouraged by Bill’s comments here:
    There's a group of about 20-30 members who seem to be periodically losing their minds.

    So I'm asking every one of you reading this to please help us out, and please help everyone out, just by being the best you can be whenever you say anything — whatever your beliefs or passions or convictions. All of us, every one of us, has far more in common than we ever have differences.

    I presume Bill and the Mods support our objective which is simply to post and share information without the drama. The triangle found at the bottom, left of every post is easy to use. Up pops a box and only a brief explanation is needed. They’ll know which post you referenced and will reroute it into the “Q” Booth or one of the other "Q" threads.




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    Neon Revolt article from a year ago (back when mostly Q researchers seemed to care much)

    Quote Reminder: Topographical analysis of Epstein's Island (and potential Tunnel sites) from over a year ago:
    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/04/1...reatawakening/

    Quote Epstein’s Island Tunnels. #Pizzagate #Pedogate #TheCabal #HRCVideo #QAnon #GreatAwakening
    April 12, 2018 by Neon Revolt
    An absolutely brilliant #Anon went digging through USGS topographical data to try and sort out the most likely areas where #JeffreyEpstein would build his tunnels, and compiled a ton of helpful images to help visualize the actual size and depth of these things, as well as probably entrances and exits.
    This fits with another anon, who theorized about the size of the tunnels based on the power and probable output of the HVAC units found on the surface.
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    Timing Is Everything, Strategically Planned From The Beginning - X22 Report Episode 1920b



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    The resolution to impeach Trump has been voted down. [DS] players are panicking.
    Ross and Barr are held in contempt by the house, which means absolutely nothing, this is a political stunt.
    Trump went ahead and said it, boom.
    Timing is everything, the patriots are waiting for the right moment to make their move, they are waiting for the [DS] to play their hand.
    [BC] and [HRC] have been monitoring [JE].
    Q drops more bread, more proofs, sheep no more.
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    To Be Economically Free, We Must Do This One Thing - X22 Report Episode 1920a



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    Boris Johnson has the no-deal deadline on Oct 31, Parliament is out of session at this time, the EU countered Johnson by have those in Parliament create an amendment to block this.
    Foreign purchases of homes have imploded.
    Mnuchin says he and Pelosi have worked out a budget for the next two years.
    To be economically free Trump and the patriots need to shutdown the [CB] and remove the power of the reserve currency

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    Well now, this may be an interesting place to post this stuff and for others to research into.

    Once Upon a Q -- The Greastest Story Ever Told

    Q ANON – The REAL Disclosures


    A few months back Justin Deschamps of Stillness in the Storm made a post explaining the reasoning and delivery behind Q’s posts, that, as of 18th July 2019, number 3457. Here is an extract:

    ‘’A good coded message is designed to have many meanings. Steganography is the practice of hiding messages in another message, file, video, or letter. While modern technology gives new meaning to this practice, it is far older than computer code, used by professional spies and governments for centuries.

    Coding a message is intended to hide the correct meaning, or the one that the coder is intending to transmit to the recipient, amongst many other interpretations. This confuses parties that intercept the messages.

    In the case of Q ANON, all the messages are public, which means the Q team, who claim to be from Military Intelligence, know full well they will be decoded by the Deep State in an effort to expose alliance communications. As such, the team behind Q likely employs extremely dense and complicated coding techniques to ensure there’s a lot of confusion. ‘’

    After posting nearly 3,500 drops over almost 2 years, there clearly IS a very, real and dramatic story- the FULL DISCLOSURE that everyone has been waiting for.

    If you were Q and knowing that EVERY SINGLE SOCIAL and MSM platform was compromised, and you had to deliver, without exaggeration, the most spectacular information our civilization will ever have heard, whilst at the same time, building and maintaining interest in the movement, whilst avoiding chaos and panic, then the only way to do it would be in elaborate code designed for one person to decipher and act as a Main Whistleblower who collates and presents the testimonies of key Witnessess and Researchers, bringing it altogether under one roof, ready for global dissemination when the signal is given.

    The Disclosures are SO serious that the Q team could not just announce them to a small audience, because no one would have believed them without the proof and evidence that has been assembled by the decoder. The Disclosures instead required a mass of people to be built up, genuinely wanting, seeking and expecting real Disclosures, so the movement could grow organically, whilst the Main Whistleblower quietly got on with the decoding in the background.

    This is exactly what has happened and we are now at the finish line for it going mainstream. As the Military Intelligence & Dept of Energy Q team said repeatedly, it was NEVER anything to do with just one Country or American politics as most have interpreted it as being, and that misinformation was necessary. The Main Whistleblower was selected because of their own deep connections to explosive people and information, that was necessary in order for them to recognise and understand the drops, as well as having the motivation to take on the task.

    It is instead everything to do with exposing:

    A lethal, serial killing, world hierarchy, who have been utilising heavily classified technologies including stargate travel, to enslave and trade us ‘humans’ in return for more advanced technologies, that most cannot even begin to comprehend.

    History has had to be re-written, from every angle whether it be scientific, astronomical, geograhical, political, theosophical, world religions, etc

    The work currently resides at only 2 censorship free websites. It started out as just one part on one website, but as the story grew and unfolded, new parts had to be added and now total 6, with regular updates still taking place to accommodate new drops, that now, mainly act as re-confirmations of the completed main body of work. The Decoder uses the avatars IQ on one site and trusttheplan on the other. The material is the same on both platforms and by the same Author.

    Q made it clear that the drops were layered and provided interconnecting stories to form, one huge DISCLOSURE covering multiple subjects. So there is some overlap and repetition. This was done by design so that everyone gets the full Disclosure. Thus it must be read like a book in the order that it is presented for it to make full sense.

    No one yet has read it in full because it was only completed early July 2019. Here are 6 comments from some people from the 2 websites who have read some of the material as it was being put together and published as mini articles:

    (March 2019) ‘’Hi! I just read you Q post. The entire thing. I have been following since pre Q (Mega Anon) I am not one of the wizards who decode and translate but I follow and attempt to red pill as much as possible. I have to say O.O First, I am praying for you. Thank you for the info and second, this is explosive. Please contact Wilcock, Goode, Sather or praying medic (Dave) w/ this info ASAP for your own protection. The quicker the info gets to the masses the greater your protection. Are you the first person writer of this article? I admit I probably missed a lot because it was small "print" but I got enough. If this has to get out to arrest the creeps then please do it NOW for us as well as yourself. Thanks again.

    I don't know your spiritual nature but there is supernatural protection in the name and blood of Jesus. Claim it and keep it close to your heart.’

    (June 2019) ‘Thanks, IQ. That's a massive undertaking. You are doing amazing work tracking all the subtle ins and outs.’

    (June 2019) ‘That was an amazing journey I need to go through again, Thanks bunches.’

    (March 2019) ‘Wow, very interesting article there, thank you for all of that work, love and light to you.’

    (April 2018) ‘This is a really fine article; I shall study it thoroughly. Thank you for your diligent work!’

    (April 2018) ‘Nice work, as an English man i'm glad its global not just the USA’

    The first website is called Earthchanges.ning.com whilst the second website where the decoder posted is called Onstellar.com. Onstellar.com recently announced that they will shortly become a social media site and NEWS site.

    Each of the 6 parts are very large consisting of about 390 graphics in each, so please allow the page to finish streaming and loading before attempting to read it.

    Here are the Links for Earthchanges:

    http://earthchanges.ning.com/profile...ror-snow-white

    http://earthchanges.ning.com/profile...er-told-part-2

    http://earthchanges.ning.com/profile...-told-part-3-1

    http://earthchanges.ning.com/profile...d-final-part-1

    http://earthchanges.ning.com/profile...the-freemasons

    http://earthchanges.ning.com/profile...er-told-part-6

    Here are the Links for Onstellar.com

    https://onstellar.com/blogs/115975/O...Ever-Told-Part

    https://onstellar.com/blogs/116183/O...Ever-Told-Part

    https://onstellar.com/blogs/116275/O...Ever-Told-Part

    https://onstellar.com/blogs/116371/O...Ever-Told-Part

    https://onstellar.com/blogs/120347/O...Ever-Told-Part

    https://onstellar.com/blogs/132806/O...Ever-Told-Part

    If you have trouble with any of the links then go directly to the websites and search for the avatars of the Decoder where you will find the 6 parts plus the many mini articl

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    Here's Amazing Polly with a deep dive on the Epstein foundation and investments in to trans-humanist research, the Maxwell clan and medical ethics.
    This young lady is fast turning in to one of the best (Q or otherwise) researchers out there, in my humble opinion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5iYJqxRJPY
    And then the day came, when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.

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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Baby Q is in the news, And yes Trump did get to see the Q on the babies back because mama turned around so POTUS could see the Q. That is when he he said "What a beautiful picture"

    So here is a RedPill and a Spaceshot for you all today.

    Red Pill News - The Picture Will Be The Signifier #QANONBABY

    By RedPill78
    Published on Jul 18, 2019


    And then SpaceShot76 had to jump into the water because it was so good

    Qanon 7/18/19 "The List of Names will be Staggering"

    By SpaceShot76
    Published on Jul 19, 2019
    "We have former contractors that worked on Epstein’s island and had to quit from what he saw go on there, because he has three daughters, you can guess for now until the video why, also symbolism like their Turkish inspired temple on the pedo island. Info coming quick and tomorrow could be the two week maker of pence and POTUS45 announcement on what happened with mike pence. Enjoy the movie guys."



    and one more for cheerleading section

    Patriot Intel Report 07 19 19

    By Patriot Intel Report
    Published on Jul 19, 2019



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