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    Well, I actually thought it was an olive branch Bill and I did think it was funny. It made me smile.

    Edit: and learning from past experience, I'll be ducking out of here for now.
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    It DID happen, actually = Nader.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
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    No, no, no. It just means 'watch' the 19th.

    But wait... crosby did that, and nothing happened.

    It’s hard to tell if you made a funny or if it’s sarcasm and a poke-poke at crosby.

    I was encouraged and touched by your heart felt reveal. Now, I’m aware of the deep breath I take before I reach out to you. That in itself is sad. (I’m a work in progress.)

    Moving on… If you use sarcasm, then it opens the door for others to slip in with a little deeper dig and we’re right back where we started.

    I’d like to hit the triangle and ask that your post be moved to the “Q” Booth thread. Here’s my next concern. Will a mod honor my request? Or will s/he feel obliged to let your post stand?

    Bill, is it too much as ask if we share information without this disruptive nuance? A part of me wonders if you are intentionally trying to get a rise out any poster here. Are they some of those 20-30 members you referenced only days ago?

    Will you be open to moving your post to the “Q” Booth? If so, you are welcome to delete my post or move it along with yours.

    Respectfully submitted,
    Paula
    ~~~

    Okay, what I learned from this exchange is:
    1. Jokes are not allowed on this thread.
    2. I'm not allowed on this thread.
    3. If Mike had made the point, everyone might be smiling.
    4. crosby is always right. She can't be challenged, even in George Carlin style. (Do think about that!)
    5. Some subjects are too sacrosanct to point out The Emperor's New Clothes.
    6. A more spiritual and respectful approach to posting doesn't mean that every post has to be adorned with hugs and hearts. The truth is important, too.
    7. (and a really serious point) Some of the ridiculous suppositions about what the watch image might mean thoroughly deserved to be lampooned. At least it might prompt some readers to think about my point — rather than push back.
    So what I learned from this exchange is go along, to get along with Bill.

    1. We joke. Sarcasm is mocking.
    2. Nowhere in my post did I say you aren’t allowed on this thread.
    3. We have a history with Mike. He’s approachable and does his level best to negotiate when and where he is able.
    4. The reality is you can challenge any one here, so there's no point in answering #5-7.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Well, I actually thought it was an olive branch Bill and I did think it was funny. It made me smile.

    Edit: and learning from past experience, I'll be ducking out of here for now.
    I thought it was funny, too.

    And, it was open for interpretation.

    I think it was all three, funny, sarcastic and an intentional poke at crosby.

    Based on current events within this forum, (context) and like Running Deer, I wasn't certain.

    I certainly didn't expect the response.

    Of all ways one could have chosen to respond, that was the way.

    Which makes me say, hmmm.....
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    It DID happen, actually = Nader.
    (The sealed indictment was UNsealed yesterday, the 19th).

    George Nader, Witness in Mueller Probe, Hit With New Charges of Sex Trafficking

    The key cooperator is accused of preying on a 14-year-old boy from Europe he allegedly flew to the U.S.
    (full article at link)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/george...er&via=desktop

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I certainly didn't expect the response.
    And neither did I.

    My own response was because Paula's post was far sharper than mine, which was really pretty mild, making a point in a lighthearted way. I thought 'watch' the 19th was rather witty. (But maybe not! )

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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    4. The reality is you can challenge any one here, so there's no point in answering #5-7.
    I'd like to add, in a respectful manner.

    Keeping in mind, most reasonable people do not consider sarcasm, or mocking, to be "respectful" when being challenged.

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I certainly didn't expect the response.
    And neither did I.

    My own response was because Paula's post was far sharper than mine, which was really pretty mild, making a point in a lighthearted way. I thought 'watch' the 19th was rather witty. (But maybe not! )
    I agree, I thought it was "witty" too. It made me laugh.

    It was the second line spoken toward crosby that left me wondering.

    I'd like to say that this was a potential misunderstanding now brought to a better understanding, and we can leave it at that and return to the thread topic.

    And Bill, you are welcome.

    I remember when you popped in with the submarine photo, recently.
    And appreciated your contribution.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    It DID happen, actually = Nader.
    (The sealed indictment was UNsealed yesterday, the 19th).

    George Nader, Witness in Mueller Probe, Hit With New Charges of Sex Trafficking

    The key cooperator is accused of preying on a 14-year-old boy from Europe he allegedly flew to the U.S.
    (full article at link)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/george...er&via=desktop
    Ah... so this WAS the thing to look for on the 19th?

    I'm also thinking of when President Trump mentioned that VP Pence would learn why he was called back earlier this month, on the 19th.

    We may not become privy to that right away, if ever.

    But, I was hoping.... LOL

    I thought the Pence and Biden call backs may have been related to the submarine fire?
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    Back to the topic of the recent watch post.

    When I first saw it I thought it meant, "Worth remembering" as in keep this in the side pocket of our mind to remember for the future.

    The next day, I rethought my first thought and wondered if that post was related to an earlier post.

    Since I was away for several months I figured it was something I missed.

    Going back through the posts I came across the first time this image was posted by Q.

    It's the same watch. With a different time on it.

    #2647 5 January 2019

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    .
    Six more on January 5, 2019

    From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4615251.html#4615394
    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 01/05/19 (Sat) 17:19:44 bc0a99 (1) No.4615394

    File (hide): 5f16d2871be5e99⋯.png (1.5 MB, 591x1280, 591:1280, IMG_2616.PNG) (h) (u)
    >>4614558 ... [[ Link to 8 chan post with images from a year ago, Jan 7, 2018, when Trump was at Camp David (CD) ]]
    Will POTUS be @ CD [[ Camp David ]] tomorrow?
    [1 year delta]
    Matters of NAT SEC?
    The clock is ticking.
    Follow the watch.
    Q

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Back to the topic of the recent watch post.

    When I first saw it I thought it meant, "Worth remembering" as in keep this in the side pocket of our mind to remember for the future.

    The next day, I rethought my first thought and wondered if that post was related to an earlier post.

    Since I was away for several months I figured it was something I missed.

    Going back through the posts I came across the first time this image was posted by Q.

    It's the same watch. With a different time on it.

    #2647 5 January 2019

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    .
    Six more on January 5, 2019

    From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4615251.html#4615394
    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 01/05/19 (Sat) 17:19:44 bc0a99 (1) No.4615394

    File (hide): 5f16d2871be5e99⋯.png (1.5 MB, 591x1280, 591:1280, IMG_2616.PNG) (h) (u)
    >>4614558 ... [[ Link to 8 chan post with images from a year ago, Jan 7, 2018, when Trump was at Camp David (CD) ]]
    Will POTUS be @ CD [[ Camp David ]] tomorrow?
    [1 year delta]
    Matters of NAT SEC?
    The clock is ticking.
    Follow the watch.
    Q

    There are a few follow up posts related to this post that I find quite interesting.

    On 15 Mar 2019, Q posted that the Marker was completed.

    If Q did this with this marker, it's reasonable to think to same will happen with the 2nd marker.
    I can't tell though, if Q waited until an autist or anon made the connection?
    I wasn't around at the time, and am not savvy to the full range of 8 chan convos.

    #3092 and #3093 15 March 2019

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Q drops #3080 - 3096, (click to enlarge images)

    https://qanon.pub/
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    3092

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 9d33da No.5705810 📁
    Mar 15 2019 14:58:46 (EST)
    D0ry3OqWwAE1JIZ.jpg

    Attachment 40165

    https://twitter.com/45_Schedule/stat...43293364985856
    [Marker 1 Complete]
    Q
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    3093

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 9d33da No.5705892 📁
    Mar 15 2019 15:01:24 (EST)

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 9d33da No.5705810 📁
    Mar 15 2019 14:58:46 (EST)
    D0ry3OqWwAE1JIZ.jpg

    Attachment 40165

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    Dy7ZYlGUcAQwwS5.jpg

    Attachment 40166

    >>5705810
    On March 15th?
    [3:15]
    Q

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    3094

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 1ed397 No.5706742 📁
    Mar 15 2019 15:38:04 (EST)

    Anonymous ID: 2bf626 No.5706249 📁
    Mar 15 2019 15:16:02 (EST)
    AG Barr Watch Proof NE Veto.png

    Attachment 40167



    >>5706249
    The real 'fun' starts soon.
    Q
    On 27 March 2019, (the day I started my AT hike ) Q reposted #3094 above into post #3230.

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Q drop #3229 - 3235, click to enlarge images


    https://qanon.pub/

    3230

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: a17382 No.5930410 📁
    Mar 27 2019 19:27:16 (EST)
    7f4e49fb67285ed5ef4419641539cc41df6c6d249edd954fc68090b436664262.png

    Attachment 40287

    Shall we play another 'Q Proof' game?
    Q
    Then there were a series of posts about "reflections".

    The next day this was posted and Q reposted it.

    #3247

    Click image for larger version

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    You can take a closer look of each of the above images at the links below.

    https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d8a...c7c6308898.png

    https://media.8ch.net/file_store/02d...afd2441320.png

    https://media.8ch.net/file_store/cc1...ae3288d508.png


    (They go directly to the images so you don't have to deal with the noise of 8 chan.)

    This really caught my attention:

    Watch is in the Oval Office. (Castle)

    And the watch that we are seeing, or a watch like it, appears to have been in the Oval Office when Reagan was President.

    I'm sure everyone has all noted this, but, I'm still trying to catch up.

    I wanted to put this all in one place in front of me.

    If this is true, what does it mean?

    I'm still letting this sink in....
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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    No, no, no. It just means 'watch' the 19th.

    But wait... crosby did that, and nothing happened.

    Eugene Swchartz, a world class copywriter had a maxim “Creativity is Connectivity”, saying “When you are being creative. You’re making new connections. Nothing more.”

    I personally enjoyed Star Mariners post. It may only be tangentially connected to the Q drop, but it’s a little data point of history I wasn’t aware of until now.

    Collecting random data points to see what correlations and pictures emerge over time is kind of what we’ve been doing on this Q thread for a while now. It’s not so different than what Joseph Farrell does with his high octane speculations, or John Rappaport with his imagination exercises. Random dot-connecting is the fun part of the process, even if it doesn’t turn out to be anything concrete in the end.
    I like lateral thinking!!!

    Some of the most creative solutions come from tangential data points in the lateral thinking process.

    And Steve Jobs also talked about "Creativity is Connectivity".



    It also allows for Serendipity. Which I find to be GREAT FUN!!!!

    It's playful.
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    There is a little bit of housekeeping I want to do on the two Q posts below.

    Quote Posted by edina (here)

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Q drops #3080 - 3096, (click to enlarge images)

    https://qanon.pub/
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    3092

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 9d33da No.5705810 📁
    Mar 15 2019 14:58:46 (EST)
    D0ry3OqWwAE1JIZ.jpg

    Attachment 40165

    https://twitter.com/45_Schedule/stat...43293364985856
    [Marker 1 Complete]
    Q
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    3093

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 9d33da No.5705892 📁
    Mar 15 2019 15:01:24 (EST)

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 9d33da No.5705810 📁
    Mar 15 2019 14:58:46 (EST)
    D0ry3OqWwAE1JIZ.jpg

    Attachment 40165

    https://twitter.com/45_Schedule/stat...43293364985856
    [Marker 1 Complete]
    Q

    The link to the POTUS schedule Twitter page account shows that the account has now been suspended.

    I hoped that someone had archived the Tweet that was linked.

    Sure enough, someone on 8 chan did. Here's an image of the Tweet.

    Click image for larger version

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    The connection of the 5 Jan 2019 image of the watch was to the actions mentioned in this 15 March 2019 tweet.

    This is something to consider as we look at the most recent watch marker image.

    The watch and pen figure a lot in the Q posts, as Q Proofs.

    There are 2 places to easily look at Q proofs for anyone interested in looking at them as a whole to consider patterns, or such.

    1. Q Proofs.com
    2. Search at Qmap.pub of proofs.

    Neither have them all.

    The 8 chan Research board probably has them all listed somewhere.

    And BTW, it's very possible that the image reflected on the recent watch marker image is POTUS. Or someone with reddish blond hair.

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    My summary of the last few posts
    Having been through two extremely painful divorces I have learnt that when things get tense: sarcasm, teasing, joking, ridiculing etc. are oil on the fire.
    It’s best to keep an alert and sensitive attitude until well after all memories of the hurtful events have faded.
    Knowing that Paula is a very precious member of this community and also is sensitive to conflict, this needs to be acknowledged.
    Yet what Bill saw was also what I saw: “watch” the 19th. Simple. It was obvious to me.

    But that nothing happened is not quite true. Depends what one expects.
    Two biggies, in my view.
    Nader indictment, and the promised release of 2000 documents, detailing conversations between Ghislaine Maxwell and JE.
    The fact that the opposition immediately came up with a two week stalling effort was perhaps not what was expected, but shows the intensity of the war games going on right now.

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    Move it if you will, but I did not know that about Paula and am completely empathetic. Carry on.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    It DID happen, actually = Nader.
    Indeed. There was a significant newsworthy arrest on the 19th. Forgive me if I seem to think I am right all the time, I don't mean to. Sometimes I just get too excited(happy by what has happened for humanity, or angry if I am sad about what I SEE happening or sometimes what I do not see happening) - - I do try to maintain a balance and I do apologize if I come off as significantly stodgy or right all the time. Everybody has a bad day! I'm hoping my friends here can forgive me for having a few faults that sometimes jump into the public. Again, many apologies.

    In other news, this video by National Notables who goes into great depth with George magazines that were written two decades ago - - has very informative articles. There is an article written by one of our favorite true journalists, John Solomon. I find it very reaffirming that this magazine wrote about what we would see and have to acknowledge some decades later. This tells me that the Q team was indeed working towards draining the swamp way back then.



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    So I typed in the following and found this link: 49:490719 and found a couple of interesting links - the one below really caught my eye:

    https://ex14.5ch.net/news4vip/kako/kako0490.html

    When I typed in this: 490719 (without the colon)

    https://patents.google.com/patent/US4490719A/en

    Interesting, but strange.......
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    "So Epsteins helicopter/Plane was using the same Identification as a government aircraft.
    Someone HAD TO APPROVE THIS, tsk tsk..its not looking good for the elite!
    Two years of slow moving through all of this info is finally speeding up and coming to light!
    #WWG1WGA #MAGA #Qanon"


    https://twitter.com/ReportPatriot/st...83908506886146

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    Wasn't George Nadar in that infamous photo with Bill Clinton and others in the Caribbean waters?
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Wasn't George Nadar in that infamous photo with Bill Clinton and others in the Caribbean waters?

    The Clinton's get busted again. It's a never-ending saga that somehow always seems to out do itself.

    Special counsel Robert Mueller is getting the cooperation of a Lebanese-American businessman with ties to Arab royalty in his probe of foreign influence on the Trump presidential campaign, including the possibility of a back channel between the Kremlin and the Trump transition team.

    George Nader testified last week to the Mueller grand jury.

    Mr. Nader is an adviser to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al-Nahyan of Abu Dhabi, the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates. According to The Times, Mr. Mueller is investigating whether Emirati money found its way to the Trump campaign, which would be illegal.

    That sounds very official and all but perhaps Mueller might ask his new star witness in the Trump investigation what he was doing partying on an exclusive island resort with Bill Clinton.

    Especially when The Clinton's have been caught helping fund the bogus Trump dossier which helped launch Mueller's probe.

    Optics here. Very bad.

    And you haven't even seen the all the pictures yet.

    During Trump's transition to the White House, Bill Clinton was at a lavish resort in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic with Nader. That was BEFORE the Mueller investigation. You do the math.

    Clinton is seen here kicking back at a beach day in Jan. 2017 in Palmilla, Bayahibe, an exclusive haven of warm waters and refuge, near the so-called Paso de Catuano, very close to Isla Saona. This resort is only in accessible by private boat.

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    Doesn't it seem peculiar to thank someone for such a disturbing video, my thanks Kiwi..I used to think my eyes were quite open to this evil and corruption but it is so much worse than I could conceive.
    I have been watching for news of this paedophile network for decades; here in the UK we have had cover-up on cover-up, investigations and judicial reviews on the cover-ups and nothing is ever done about it. Theresa May once said (I believe at the the dispatch box) that there are not enough prisons to house all the paedophiles, so she KNOWS what is going on.

    It seems inescapably obvious to me that all of our politicians are compromised and so their focus becomes all about their own survival and wealth at the expense of actually doing their job and administering to the needs of their constituents and wider community. We see the decay and neglect all over our cities, rampant criminality and despair.

    I had also been wondering about the seemingly sudden explosion of LGBTQ transgender issues that every MSM is carpet-bombing us with, then I saw this article a few weeks ago, again, I'm not sure it really fits with the Q material so please feel free to move, but it does kind of go to the trans-humanism experimentation and what they already know..meaning they are deliberately poisoning us.
    From the article:
    "Mason describes how EDCs interfere with delicate hormone systems in sexual development. Glyphosate is an endocrine disruptor and a nervous system disruptor. She ponders whether Colborn foresaw the outcome whereby humans become confused about their gender or sex."
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...FBAzJkL6NMgv2o

    And a link to the report mentioned in the article:
    http://rinf.com/alt-news/wp-content/...since-1949.pdf

    From the report:
    "In 1968 US documents showed that Monsanto tried to decide whether or not to come clean about the dangers of the chemicals. They stopped making PCBs in Anniston US in 1971 because of scandals about PCBs on the health of the population and wildlife. However, the British government led by Ted Heath agreed to ramp up production at the Monsanto plant in Newport."

    Just in case people are not aware, Prime-minister Ted Heath was great chums with Jimmy Saville and rumours have persisted that he abused and killed young boys on his yacht; compromised much?

    I think I might be reaching saturation point, I am reading through the links that Lost N Found put up in post 10878 (thanks Lost N Found) and my mind is starting to boggle at just how big this thing is. It does feel like progress is being made, but I am a tad fearful for the people of the UK; we have been gaslighted (gaslit?) for many decades, poisoned and lied to, are there any heroes left?
    And then the day came, when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.

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