The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[Jad]

Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)

After the Q threads became “private”, my curiosity made me visit those particular threads more often and I must say...... good for balancing all the CNN Trump-bashing noise we receive here in Europe.

Just my opinion.

I agree with you. I’m in Greece now, and everyday before I visit the CNN website, I am always expecting something negative about him and I chuckle every time I get validated! That’s definitely one of my daily dopamine hits! 😉

[Gracy]

Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
I think people would not be so irritated, agitated or concerned about Q, if Q wasn’t so “Trump friendly”.

Well, lets talk about that then. First off i think there is a huuuuuge difference between people on the left with Trump Derangement Syndrom, and objective observers beginning to see more and more signs of real trouble on the horizon. And of course Q and Trump go hand and hand as you rightly point out so they are inseparable.

I consider myself an objective observr, so when i see Trump now seeming to now base his campaign rallies on firing people up to the point of chanting send them back, referring to the 4 congress women of color he says should go back where they came from, i see it as a historically dangerous thing happening and not a political bias.

Again from yesterday.

"I don't believe the four Congresswomen are capable of loving our Country," Trump tweeted. "They should apologize to America (and Israel) for the horrible (hateful) things they have said. They are destroying the Democrat Party, but are weak & insecure people who can never destroy our great Nation!"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...after-n1032066

To even Trump fans, is this what you want? What does history tell us about what happens when certain people are pointed out as being The Problem?

Does this start happening?

The Times-Picayune reported this weekend that police officer Charlie Rispoli had posted a threatening message about Ocasio-Cortez, who used to work as a bartender, on his Facebook page.

“This vile idiot needs a round…and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve,” Rispoli wrote in a caption above a fake article headlined with “Ocasio-Cortez On the Budget: ‘We Pay Soldiers Too Much'”

The cop seemed livid about the article, even though the site Taters Gonna Tate describes itself as a “satire” website and Ocasio-Cortez has never said that soldiers get paid “too much.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/l...-facebook-post


And on to Q. Ive long since found it disturbing waiting to see mass arrests and military tribunal to again, solve The Problem, but what about when that starts going into the real world with people deciding its time to take these matters into their own hands?

An attorney for Anthony Comello said the man hoped to conduct citizen’s arrests of various figures, including Democratic Reps. Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff.

The man who allegedly gunned down a leader of the Gambino crime family earlier this year was obsessed with internet conspiracy theories like QAnon and believed he was working to aid President Donald Trump, The New York Times reported on Sunday.

Attorneys for Anthony Comello, 24, have argued in court documents that their client intended to conduct a citizen’s arrest of Francesco “Franky Boy” Cali during a late-night encounter in March. Instead, the pair spoke outside Cali’s home on Staten Island, and when the mob boss resisted arrest, Comello shot him 10 times.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/antho...b0419fd32eb398

I suppose we can call these isolated incedents, like the guy who fired off a rifle round in a DC pizza spot, but what if they start happening more and more? Its easy to assume that every one has they're head screwed on straight, and most do, but mob mentality also has a way of creeping into the picture, even with well meaning people. I wonder how many more are out there getting impatient for the roundups?

Or for Those People to go back where they came from?

Q and Trump people, please, plese, dont get me wrong, i'm not attacking you,i'm just pointing out some things that are starting to get a lil dicey, and asking some questions that really need to be asked.

[Bill Ryan]

Mod note from Bill:

I changed the name of the thread, after several suggestions a week or two ago that we might do that. The new title more accurately reflects the substance of the thread. The original one (The Qanon posts and a "Very Bad Day" Scenario for some elite swamp critters) was chosen by Paul in November 2017 as a kind of joke, and it stuck. The title can be easily changed again, and the mods are open to other suggestions.

(I've also moved three posts here from the Qanon and the mechanism of addiction thread, as that thread isn't about debating Trump pro or con. It's about addiction.)

[mgray]

Two fact-based posts on the last Q post. First & Second

[mountain_jim]

From Dave Collum

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...-jfk-and-vegas

Dave Collum
@DavidBCollum


I am a "conspiracy theorist". I believe men and women of wealth and power conspire. If you don't think so, then you are what is called "an idiot". If you believe stuff but fear the label, you are what is called "a coward".

[edina]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Mod note from Bill:

I changed the name of the thread, after several suggestions a week or two ago that we might do that. The new title more accurately reflects the substance of the thread. The original one (The Qanon posts and a "Very Bad Day" Scenario for some elite swamp critters) was chosen by Paul in November 2017 as a kind of joke, and it stuck. The title can be easily changed again, and the mods are open to other suggestions.

(I've also moved three posts here from the Qanon and the mechanism of addiction thread, as that thread isn't about debating Trump pro or con. It's about addiction.)

I like the name change but would like to point out that this is not just a US movement.

QAnon is a global movement.

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Posted by mgray (here)
Two fact-based posts on the last Q post. First & Second

Interesting the connections that are NOT being focused on in this story.
Thanks mgray

[mountain_jim]

I wish I had had this devastatingly thorough analysis of Obama's forged birth certificate at hand the last time an Avalon member accused me of not knowing what I was talking about in reference to this.

The fact that back at that time the MSM totally ignored this really helped further wake me up to just how controlled the message was/is.

https://twitter.com/NeonRevolt/statu...14714223300608

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by edina (here)
QAnon is a global movement.

What does Qanon say about Brexit? (That's a serious question.) I assumed nothing ever, but I may well be wrong.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by edina (here)
QAnon is a global movement.

What does Qanon say about Brexit? (That's a serious question.) I assumed nothing ever, but I may well be wrong.

Searches indicate nothing directly. However, the 'movement' does appear to resonate with some folks on the pro-side:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...o-brexit-rally

'QAnon' conspiracy theory makes appearance at pro-Brexit rally

Signs promoting the “QAnon” conspiracy theory appeared Friday at a pro-Brexit march in London.
Photos of the march posted on social media showed at least two attendees holding up “Q” signs, referencing the conspiracy theory linked to the American far-right.
One sign read: “Love wisdom, ‘WE’ are everywhere.”

Another photo showed a man wearing a high-visibility vest with the letter “Q.”

…



It is unclear what the link between QAnon and Brexit supporters is, but the photos indicate the conspiracy theory is beginning to enter the mainstream internationally.

[edina]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by edina (here)
QAnon is a global movement.

What does Qanon say about Brexit? (That's a serious question.) I assumed nothing ever, but I may well be wrong.

Often the Q posts points people to news that is not being covered in MSM.

Here Q points to a protest over Brexit.


3170
Brexit: Estimated 1 Million Protesters Join Historic March for 2nd Referendum
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
23 Mar 2019 - 5:43:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Independe...48704📁
MAYday
MAYday
MAYday
Democracy matters.
The WILL of the PEOPLE.
UNITED not divided.
WWG1WGA!!!
Q

When I say that Q is a global movement, I'm thinking of the things such as people holding QAnon signs in French protests.
QAnon among people are showing up all over Europe, India, and Japan.

I think what we are seeing here is that the looming trend of a fascist form of globalism is being thwarted by populism.

The MSM is framing this global movement, whether it be QAnon related or not, as nationalism v globalism.

And calling "nationalsim" fascist.

I think it's more accurate to call it populism, which is about the power of the people.

Brexit happened because people were becoming increasing unhappy with bureaucrats in the EU making policy without the people having a voice.

That's the only post I found with the word "Brexit" in it. But the issue is covered in other posts.

The Q posts are primarily about the level of corruption happening in the places of power.
It's pointing out how this is all inter-connected.

How this corruption is entrenched due primarily through the way so many leaders in government, business, media, ect... have been compromised.

Connecting this to the massive problem with human trafficking, include child trafficking for sex.

We know there is a huge problem with missing children. HUGE!!!!

This is why people feel so passionate about this material.

Also, many people participating in this thread are from other countries.

What is happening here also has relevancy in their countries, too.

For example, the entanglement of the FIVE EYES intelligence agencies in all of the above.

[mgray]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by edina (here)
QAnon is a global movement.

What does Qanon say about Brexit? (That's a serious question.) I assumed nothing ever, but I may well be wrong.

3170
Brexit: Estimated 1 Million Protesters Join Historic March for 2nd Referendum
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
23 Mar 2019 - 7:43:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Independe...48704📁
MAYday
MAYday
MAYday
Democracy matters.
The WILL of the PEOPLE.
UNITED not divided.
WWG1WGA!!!
Q

Two months later May announces she is stepping down from PM position.

[mountain_jim]

Thanks!

What source was searched for this? MY use of search at
https://qanon.pub/
did not find it.

[mgray]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Thanks!

What source was searched for this? MY use of search at
https://qanon.pub/
did not find it.

https://qmap.pub/

[mountain_jim]

Posted by mgray (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Thanks!

What source was searched for this? MY use of search at
https://qanon.pub/
did not find it.

https://qmap.pub/

Thanks - I needed that.

[Praxis]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
I think people would not be so irritated, agitated or concerned about Q, if Q wasn’t so “Trump friendly”.

Well, lets talk about that then. First off i think there is a huuuuuge difference between people on the left with Trump Derangement Syndrom, and objective observers beginning to see more and more signs of real trouble on the horizon. And of course Q and Trump go hand and hand as you rightly point out so they are inseparable.

I consider myself an objective observr, so when i see Trump now seeming to now base his campaign rallies on firing people up to the point of chanting send them back, referring to the 4 congress women of color he says should go back where they came from, i see it as a historically dangerous thing happening and not a political bias.

Again from yesterday.

"I don't believe the four Congresswomen are capable of loving our Country," Trump tweeted. "They should apologize to America (and Israel) for the horrible (hateful) things they have said. They are destroying the Democrat Party, but are weak & insecure people who can never destroy our great Nation!"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...after-n1032066

To even Trump fans, is this what you want? What does history tell us about what happens when certain people are pointed out as being The Problem?

Does this start happening?

The Times-Picayune reported this weekend that police officer Charlie Rispoli had posted a threatening message about Ocasio-Cortez, who used to work as a bartender, on his Facebook page.

“This vile idiot needs a round…and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve,” Rispoli wrote in a caption above a fake article headlined with “Ocasio-Cortez On the Budget: ‘We Pay Soldiers Too Much'”

The cop seemed livid about the article, even though the site Taters Gonna Tate describes itself as a “satire” website and Ocasio-Cortez has never said that soldiers get paid “too much.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/l...-facebook-post


And on to Q. Ive long since found it disturbing waiting to see mass arrests and military tribunal to again, solve The Problem, but what about when that starts going into the real world with people deciding its time to take these matters into their own hands?

An attorney for Anthony Comello said the man hoped to conduct citizen’s arrests of various figures, including Democratic Reps. Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff.

The man who allegedly gunned down a leader of the Gambino crime family earlier this year was obsessed with internet conspiracy theories like QAnon and believed he was working to aid President Donald Trump, The New York Times reported on Sunday.

Attorneys for Anthony Comello, 24, have argued in court documents that their client intended to conduct a citizen’s arrest of Francesco “Franky Boy” Cali during a late-night encounter in March. Instead, the pair spoke outside Cali’s home on Staten Island, and when the mob boss resisted arrest, Comello shot him 10 times.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/antho...b0419fd32eb398

I suppose we can call these isolated incedents, like the guy who fired off a rifle round in a DC pizza spot, but what if they start happening more and more? Its easy to assume that every one has they're head screwed on straight, and most do, but mob mentality also has a way of creeping into the picture, even with well meaning people. I wonder how many more are out there getting impatient for the roundups?

Or for Those People to go back where they came from?

Q and Trump people, please, plese, dont get me wrong, i'm not attacking you,i'm just pointing out some things that are starting to get a lil dicey, and asking some questions that really need to be asked.

I am waiting for these questions to be addressed.

Excellent points.

[ulli]

From Edina’s post above:

I think what we are seeing here is that the looming trend of a fascist form of globalism is being thwarted by populism.

The MSM is framing this global movement, whether it be QAnon related or not, as nationalism v globalism.

And calling "nationalsim" fascist.

I think it's more accurate to call it populism, which is about the power of the people.

Brexit happened because people were becoming increasing unhappy with bureaucrats in the EU making policy without the people having a voice.

This is the essence of it all. Whether QAnon, Brexit or Yellow Vests.
Good versus evil, and what is evil? Evil is ignorance of consequences, in a universe that is ultimately good.
It is at its extreme end the diabolical practise to conjure up sinister forces from an unknown dimension in order to make a Faustian pact.
Which is the exchange of human suffering by sacrificing the innocent and in rerurn receive material wealth, status and power.

[Liz.]

I am waiting for these questions to be addressed.

Excellent points.[/QUOTE]

Well, the whole Trump is a racist thing seems to have been conflated by the MSM and taken out of context; but again, lets focus on on a very narrow understanding of the message (limited hangout) and not the wider points...maybe if the media focused their attention there instead of inciting folks?
Also, Jussie Smollet.
That's my take anyway.

[Jad]

I really don’t understand why people are still debating what the F is Q is really about! Pages and pages were wasted on this thread about this and what was the result? It made people even more divided and angry about it (what a sad waste of energy). Your pro/against opinions about this will not stop the Q drops. It is what it is. Let’s all pretend we are alien scientists objectively watching this Q phenomenon unfold in front of us, suspend our judgements, and simply study the data.
I am sure that when this phenomenon is done and it will be done sooner or later, we can all have better informed opinions about it.

[ulli]

This is the wrong thread to expect anything from the mainstream media to be addressed, as in the context of the Epstein et al disclosures the MSM have become increasingly irrelevant, especially Huffpost.

Years ago when Adrianna Huffington was still living with Times columnist Bernard Levin I went to one of their talks as they were recruiting clients for their current cult movement called Insight. Might have been around 1979, the year I first learnt about an elite conspiracy to enslave humanity under their yoke. Also Rupert Murdoch is worth checking out under a magnifying glass.
Deception is the name of their game, as they are the ultimate elitists, hiding behind a veneer of social concern.

Make no mistake and learn to ask the most important question, “ who or what is behind whatever?”
This goes for anything that comes along, including Q.

I found the answer re the mainstream media several decades ago, when investigating Time magazine history, and how editors decide what is front page headline material, and what goes into a small box on page seven.

https://noreentaylorjournalist.com/p...na-huffington/

[Ratszinger]

Posted by Liz. (here)
I am waiting for these questions to be addressed.

Excellent points.

Well, the whole Trump is a racist thing seems to have been conflated by the MSM and taken out of context; but again, lets focus on on a very narrow understanding of the message (limited hangout) and not the wider points...maybe if the media focused their attention there instead of inciting folks?
Also, Jussie Smollet.
That's my take anyway.[/QUOTE]

That is how I see Q as the thermostat to the out of control lying media telling the public tall tales and getting away with it up til now. This is a war over group think. They are fighting but they are herding groups of like minded and merging them with others that didn't know so many were still out there siding with them. These are the bulk of those that have resisted the 'Grooming' as the good Dr. pointed out to us earlier! The fact is half the world has apparently bought the grooming programming hook line and sinker and through their control of the media they have made it appear that their point of view is dominant when in fact Q is showing people that there are more out there still not groomed and rejecting it all the way around no matter the angle!

Q is to me the only way those knowing the real situation could present the truth about how many conservatives that still pledge to the flag, still pray, don't believe in marriage other than for a man and woman and so on. They thought they were the minority but they are not, not really. The conservatives believing in the sovereignty of the USA maybe dominate more than we even know now at this writing and we wouldn't even be aware we had any voice left at all had it not been for Q. Where else do you go to get any conservative view point? FOX? Please!