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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Is the Q movement helping a New World to emerge?

    Thierry Meyssan doesn’t touch on Q specifically, but ultimately the great awakening is helping shift geopolitics to where it is today...

    =========== The New World is Emerging Before Us[/SIZE]
    by Thierry Meyssan

    Thierry Meyssan underlines the extreme gravity, not of the US withdrawal from Syria, but of the collapse of the world’s current landmarks. According to him, we are entering a short transition period, during which the current masters of the game, the "financial capitalists" - and those he refers to here have nothing to do with either original capitalism or the original bank - will be rejected in favour of the rules of law laid down by Russia in 1899.
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    Jayke, I remember making a similar connection when I read this article.

    I wondered if anyone else would see it.

    Thanks for sharing this here.
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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Doesn't matter. They all use FED printed money too! The only countries left that the FED doesn't control the currency for is Syria, NK, and Iran. All currencies are struggling so any help given by them would just drag their already taxed currency down further. As per history they'll immediately go in and set up a new central bank to help those poor people rebuild. Just like they've done each time before. Then they'll install a new puppet, take over the natural resources and control of all the wealth there and off they go to the next country. All the rest of the currencies in the world are regulated and affected by the FED and the US dollar but these three. Libya was the last one and it's all according to their plan that is well known and talked about all over. They said what they would do years ago and while maybe behind schedule it's exactly what they are going to do just watch. Regardless of how confused it may look now this is where it will end up just as it's done before.
    That’s exactly the plan Thierry Meyssan is proclaiming has failed:

    Quote The liberation in one week of a quarter of Syrian territory is not only the victory of President Bashar al-Assad, "the man who had to leave eight years ago", it marks the failure of the military strategy aimed at establishing the supremacy of financial capitalism. What seemed unimaginable has happened. The world order has changed. Further events are inevitable.
    The shift from Financial capitalism to productive capitalism has been discussed on this thread before, in previous analysis of the bigger picture dynamics behind Trump and the Q movement. Events in Syria recently have marked the turning point for important changes in the overall system of geopolitics.

    I’ve got a pretty strong intuition that Syria, NK and Iran are going to be just fine!

    You get 10 out of 10 for pessimism though Ratszinger!
    I'm not so sure this can be called 'pessimism', or just a wariness to trust.

    Which is understandable, imo.

    I'm optimistic, however, we are still in the middle of the fight.

    And this fight requires all of us to remain vigilant.

    Trillions of dollars are at stake and the 'old guard' is not giving up gracefully.

    The is why we have concerns about False Flags.

    And why there is an all out push to try to impeach President Trump.
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    Speaking of the attempt to try to impeach President Trump.

    I am very difficult to anger. However, in the past few weeks, I've found myself angry with how Pelosi and Schiff are trying to handle their inquisition.

    Today, House Representatives physically protested the "secretive" way these so-called hearings are being handled.

    I was very happy to see this. I went on Twitter to check to see if my representative has any response to this, and he was supportive.

    I looked at the comments below his tweet and saw how people responded.

    If you believe that these hearings ought to be made transparent, then now is the time to let your representatives know.

    They need our support, and other people need to see that they have our support, which is why making your voice heard on social media is so powerful.

    It's the power of the crowd, seeing the crowd, which is why China, to this day, doesn't allow any images of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protest.

    And why the Hong Kong protests are powerful in threatening the stability of inland China.
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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Is the Q movement helping a New World to emerge?
    One way of looking at that question might be to consider whether anything Qanon ever posted could ever be translated into any other language!

    There are, or have recently been, protests in Hong Kong, Cairo, Paris, Moscow, Jerusalem, the Netherlands, Peru, Haiti, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Indonesia, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Ecuador, Chile, Bolivia, Spain and Germany.

    Only an extremely minuscule proportion of those protestors — in most locations absolutely none at all — will know a thing about Qanon. (Or Alex Jones, for that matter.) And if Qanon has ever referenced the political and humanitarian conditions in those countries to any degree that can be called meaningful or significant, I'm unaware of it.

    Of course, there's an important pattern here, and we should pay very close attention. Something's happening worldwide, for sure. See this new forum section, created a few days ago specifically to discuss that.

    A lot of genuinely oppressed people have had enough. There are tipping points all over the place. But to call that the 'Q movement' really is rather like saying the baseball 'World' Series is a global event. All this would have been happening with or without Q, who is 99.9% Americocentric only.
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    The Patriots Just Trapped The [DS] Again, Moves And Countermoves - Episode 2002b

    Quote The [DS] has been trapped again, the impeachment inquiry is a show to use against the FISA and Declas.
    AS and NP were called out today and exposed to the American people.
    This has been a setup from the beginning and the [DS] played right into it.
    MG and the rest stormed the secret hearings and demanded they be allowed to participate.
    HRC and BO donor was busted.
    Sun Tzu:
    "If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him.
    If he is in superior strength, evade him.
    If your opponent is tempermental, seek to irritate him.
    Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.
    If he is taking his ease, give him no rest.
    If his forces are united, separate them.
    If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.
    Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected."
    The Battle For The Economy, Patriots Are In A Position Of Strength - Episode 2002a

    Quote The BREXIT is moving forward, we know in the end the EU and the elite do not want this to happen.
    BJ is now using all their weapons against them and in the end he might just run the clock out. Trump want NP to vote on the USMCA, now that Trudeau has been re-elected NP is going to delay the vote, the battle for the economy has begun, but the patriots have all the leverage on Trudeau.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Is the Q movement helping a New World to emerge?
    One way of looking at that question might be to consider whether anything Qanon ever posted could ever be translated into any other language!

    There are, or have recently been, protests in Hong Kong, Cairo, Paris, Moscow, Jerusalem, the Netherlands, Peru, Haiti, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Indonesia, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Ecuador, Chile and Bolivia.

    Only an extremely minuscule proportion of those protestors — in most locations absolutely none at all — will know a thing about Qanon. (Or Alex Jones, for that matter.) And if Qanon has ever referenced the political and humanitarian conditions in those countries to any degree that can be called meaningful or significant, I'm unaware of it.

    Of course, there's an important pattern here, and we should pay very close attention. Something's happening worldwide, for sure. See this new forum section, created a few days ago specifically to discuss that.

    A lot of genuinely oppressed people have had enough. There are tipping points all over the place. But to call that the 'Q movement' really is rather like saying the baseball 'World' Series is a global event. All this would have been happening with or without Q, who is 99.9% Americocentric only.
    I think you're twisting Jayke's words here.

    He asked if the Q movement is helping a New World to emerge?

    Nowhere did I see Jayke say that all of this is the Q movement.

    To answer your question about Q posts translated.

    I've seen where people in China, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Iran, India, Spain, Sweden, Germany, France, off the top of my head have translated Q posts into their own languages.

    I've seen QAnon signs amongst protests in France, Sweden, Hong Kong, Iran, .... again, off the top of my head memory.

    Here in this thread we've shared some of those images.

    I used to have on my Facebook banner the QAnon graffitti on a wall in Barcelona Spain, from back in 2018.

    I've read tweets from Iranian Freedom Fighters using the hashtag #QAnon. In Iran they have #MIGA (Make Iran Great Again).

    There are Q groups in New Zealand, Australia, Guam, Germany, France, Finland, England, Ireland, Brazil... ectera, I've lost count how much I've seen.

    I haven't seen much from the rest of South America aside from Brazil.



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    I thought I'd let you all know that I did sign up for updates from Jim Watkins website.

    This is a part of the message from this morning:

    Quote We realize details are scant, but all will be revealed when the time is right. Members of our newsletter will be the first to know when the news lands.
    Today they are running tests and working out bugs.

    Also want to remind people about this Q post 3456 (Link to Post #10862)



    (10/25) ????
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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I thought I'd let you all know that I did sign up for updates from Jim Watkins website.

    This is a part of the message from this morning:

    Quote We realize details are scant, but all will be revealed when the time is right. Members of our newsletter will be the first to know when the news lands.
    Today they are running tests and working out bugs.

    Also want to remind people about this Q post 3456 (Link to Post #10862)



    (10/25) ????
    It's not 10:25, or the hand would be between the 10 and 11. The hands are the other way around - 4:49. The date on the watch says the 19th, I believe.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Is the Q movement helping a New World to emerge?
    One way of looking at that question might be to consider whether anything Qanon ever posted could ever be translated into any other language!

    There are, or have recently been, protests in Hong Kong, Cairo, Paris, Moscow, Jerusalem, the Netherlands, Peru, Haiti, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Indonesia, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Ecuador, Chile and Bolivia.

    Only an extremely minuscule proportion of those protestors — in most locations absolutely none at all — will know a thing about Qanon. (Or Alex Jones, for that matter.) And if Qanon has ever referenced the political and humanitarian conditions in those countries to any degree that can be called meaningful or significant, I'm unaware of it.

    Of course, there's an important pattern here, and we should pay very close attention. Something's happening worldwide, for sure. See this new forum section, created a few days ago specifically to discuss that.

    A lot of genuinely oppressed people have had enough. There are tipping points all over the place. But to call that the 'Q movement' really is rather like saying the baseball 'World' Series is a global event. All this would have been happening with or without Q, who is 99.9% Americocentric only.
    I’ve been discussing the deeper turmoil/chaos pattern and it’s underlying dynamics for the past 2 years. The archetypal paradigm shift between Financial Capitalism (level 6 archetype) and Productive Capitalism (level 7 archetype).

    The Q movement is a facet of a broader global movement for sure, one that’s helping English speaking countries (a wide demographic beyond just America) make the transition.

    “Think logically” is a mantra that describes the level 7 archetype rather well, whereas the level 6 archetype is all about “subjective feelings of the group taking prominence over objective reality”. It’s a culture war between ideologies that’s been raging for the past few years.

    And then with planetary cycles catalysing “The Great Societal reset” in a few short months, it’s really not surprising that so much chaos and turmoil is occurring globally.

    We’ve covered these deeper archetypal patterns and dynamics quite extensively in the various Q threads (and other places across the forum), such as in the ‘mechanism of addiction’ thread and how these global movements can be predicted using Systems Theory.

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Speaking of the attempt to try to impeach President Trump.

    I am very difficult to anger. However, in the past few weeks, I've found myself angry with how Pelosi and Schiff are trying to handle their inquisition.

    Today, House Representatives physically protested the "secretive" way these so-called hearings are being handled.

    I was very happy to see this. I went on Twitter to check to see if my representative has any response to this, and he was supportive.

    I looked at the comments below his tweet and saw how people responded.

    If you believe that these hearings ought to be made transparent, then now is the time to let your representatives know.

    They need our support, and other people need to see that they have our support, which is why making your voice heard on social media is so powerful.

    It's the power of the crowd, seeing the crowd, which is why China, to this day, doesn't allow any images of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protest.

    And why the Hong Kong protests are powerful in threatening the stability of inland China.
    The hero of the hour that stormed Schiffty and Pelosi’s secretive impeachment hearing...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RepByrne/...32991996039169

    Would they have been so ballsy in busting in on Schiffs hearing if they didn’t have the groundswell of support brought about through the Q-anon peeps (and other such truther movements of course)?

    As an addendum to my previous post...

    In systems/chaos theory, it only requires change in 1 part of the system, for that change to cascade through the rest of the system. America is one of the biggest globalist countries, if the country that promotes hegemony makes the paradigm shift, the rest of the world will naturally follow along. Which is why it’s unnecessary for Q-anon to be an ambassador of global outrage and can just focus on American geopolitics.

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    Schiff Hits An Impeachment Roadblock, [DS] Feeling The Pain, Next Wave Coming - Episode 2003b

    Quote The [DS] is panicking over the Barr/Durham investigation, they don't have the inside information, they don't now what they uncovered, fear, panic sets in.
    The Schiff/Pelosi fake impeachment hits a roadblock, the witness has nothing, now what.
    The patriots are sitting back watching the [DS] players destroy themselves, this is all part of the plan, next wave is coming, pain is coming
    MSM/[CB] Narrative Push Fails Before It Starts, Trump Moves-In For The Economic Kill- Episode 2003a

    Quote It seems that BJ has the [CB] and the elite exactly where he wants them, the plan for a BREXIT is moving forward.
    The EU economy is falling apart, the [CB] system is imploding it was never meant to go this long, the people will now get a first hand look as the [CB] system crashes.
    The MSM pushing the economic narrative, but fails before it starts.
    Trump hits the Fed right before the meeting, tells them to lower rates.
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    This article is written with the NYTimes spin and bias, but does note that the review that Durham has been doing has now become a "Criminal" Inquiry.
    Quote Justice Dept. Is Said to Open Criminal Inquiry Into Its Own Russia Investigation

    WASHINGTON — For more than two years, President Trump has repeatedly attacked the Russia investigation, portraying it as a hoax and illegal even months after the special counsel closed it. Now, Mr. Trump’s own Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into how it all began.

    Justice Department officials have shifted an administrative review of the Russia investigation closely overseen by Attorney General William P. Barr to a criminal inquiry, according to two people familiar with the matter. The move gives the prosecutor running it, John H. Durham, the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges.

    The opening of a criminal investigation is likely to raise alarms that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies. Mr. Trump fired James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director under whose watch agents opened the Russia inquiry, and has long assailed other top former law enforcement and intelligence officials as partisans who sought to block his election.

    Mr. Trump has made clear that he sees the typically independent Justice Department as a tool to be wielded against his political enemies. That view factors into the impeachment investigation against him, as does his long obsession with the origins of the Russia inquiry. House Democrats are examining in part whether his pressure on Ukraine to open investigations into theories about the 2016 election constituted an abuse of power. The move also creates an unusual situation in which the Justice Department is conducting a criminal investigation into itself.
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    Laura Loomer ran an article a couple of days ago about Nancy Pelosi and her cohorts recent trip to Jordan

    Quote A local royal family reporter of LauraLoomer.us told us:

    The U.S. Congressional delegation kept trying to get the King to agree or state that he disagrees with President Trump’s move of removing U.S. troops and their involvement. Statements like “You are a neighboring nation, you must disagree with the unexpected and reckless withdrawal of our presence” or “The American people feel that our removal of troops causes instability in the region, do you agree?”. His Highness was getting agitated as they kept trying to get him to say something he didn’t agree with. They noticed he was getting agitated so they started appeasing him. It was very awkward.
    Exclusive Jordan Press
    Quote Multiple sources tell us that Pelosi and Schiff were actually discussing and negotiating foreign policy.
    What qualifies them to undermine our administration’s foreign policy?
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    The Conservative Treehouse has shared a copy of an letter written by IG Michael Horowitz to House Committees updating them on the progress of the Report, dated today.

    Sundance is interpreting this to mean that it will be closer to Thanksgiving before we see the report.

    Quote A letter from DOJ Inspector General Michal Horowitz provides both good news and bad news. The goods news is Horowitz letter says likely no need for a “classified version” which means AG Bill Barr likely declassifying a lot of it.

    However, the bad news is on page #2 where Horowitz says the final draft assembly is still ongoing, and the “review phase” has not yet begun. Which means the report is not likely to be made public before Thanksgiving.



    It seems to imply that this report has not yet been reviewed by the "principals"?

    Quote Lastly Horowitz notes the “review”, “accuracy” and “comment” period, which we customarily know as the “Principal Review Phase”, is not “anticipated to be lengthy”. In general the principal review phase under Horowitz has been around two-to-three weeks.

    During that phase the sections of the report that pertain to specific DOJ and FBI officials will be sent to them (w/ a required NDA) for review and their feedback. The feedback may or may not be included in the final report as published. If principal feedback is included, the IG will generally provide additional rebuttal evidence.

    When the principals get their copies, despite the non-disclosure agreement, they will undoubtedly start leaking to their media allies and lawyers on their behalf will begin the process to undermine any damaging information within the report.
    sundance is a "thinker" and like Q, he often asks his readers to think, and to think deeply.

    He does this in the later part of this article.

    Quote Remember, Rod Rosenstein authorized the second Scope Memo in August 2017 specifically so Weissmann & Mueller could investigate the claims within the ‘Dossier’. Think about what would have happened to the institution of the DOJ if they had proceeded with the prosecution of James Wolfe for leaking the FISA application; and all of the connections around the Steele Dossier and the FISA application came into light.

    Don’t just do a cursory thinking about it, really think carefully about it.

    Think about what would have happened to the SSCI and Mark Warner, if James Wolfe had been prosecuted…. Think about all of the April ’17 through 2018 media reporting on the FISA application; the Jan/Feb ’18 media arguments about the Nunes memo…. Think about every narrative the media was selling about the Steele Dossier and then later the FISA application….. and then think about Wolfe’s prosecution proving the media has the actual FISA application in their hands when they were writing all those false stories about it…

    The ramifications of prosecuting Wolfe would have collapsed the entire Russian Collusion-Conspiracy narrative; and destroyed the reputations of the SSCI, the Mueller investigation, the DOJ, the FBI and the media.

    Now do you see why they covered it up?
    I have a different assessment of the situation than sundance does, in part, because of the information coming out of the Q posts.

    sundance doesn't follow Q. I honestly don't know what he thinks of the information, if he is even aware of it.

    But, the DOJ under Rosenstein is not the same DOJ under Barr.

    And there seems to be a timing and sequence of action planned in order to deeply address the long-standing corruption, systemic corruption, not only in the Intelligence Communities but across government.

    sundance's comments implies what we all see, the complicity of the media in this corruption and coverup of corruption.

    It seems to me that there is a race to try to impeach President Trump before all of this comes out in the open for the public eye to see.

    And this is the driving force behind why they say things like, Trump needs to be impeached before Christmas.
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    https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/st...29421290459139

    I'm interested in learning what she's discovered.
    Are you?

    Syndey Powell retweeted Techno Fog:

    https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/statu...59042940133377

    (ps: I'm just trusting other people can see what I can't see, the tweet as shared from the tweet button. I add the link for others like me who can't see tweets when shared from the tweet menu button.)
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    per Mgray's report, the following is the spin the NYTimes is taking on the DOJ's criminal probe: (The following is what the Dems will be screaming in all the liberal press)



    New York Times story on the criminal probe designation. The headline on the web reads:

    Justice Dept. Is Said to Open Criminal Inquiry Into Its Own Russia Investigation
    However the readout (below) defines the article and puts a spin that is unbelievable to me.

    The move is likely to open the attorney general to accusations that he is trying to deliver a political victory for President Trump.

    And here is the third paragraph of the Times story after laying out the news.

    The opening of a criminal investigation is likely to raise alarms that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies. Mr. Trump fired James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director under whose watch agents opened the Russia inquiry, and has long assailed other top former law enforcement and intelligence officials as partisans who sought to block his election.

    Pinning this move on a vindictive President Trump instead of stating that the Justice Department believes that laws were broken is such a partisan take I simply can’t believe it made it into the story at all. Never mind the third paragraph.

    There is no quote or comment from anyone in the story to back up this partisan take. However there is this tidbit to placate their readers in the fourth paragraph.

    The opening of a criminal investigation is likely to raise alarms that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies. Mr. Trump fired James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director under whose watch agents opened the Russia inquiry, and has long assailed other top former law enforcement and intelligence officials as partisans who sought to block his election.

    So basically the Times reporters — Katie Benner and Adam Goldman — and their editors do not know what I told my long-time readers more than a year ago. That Citizen Trump, Candidate Trump, President-elect Trump and President Trump was spied upon by the Obama White House using a fraudulent Russian Collusion document — the Steele Dossier — to obtain FISA warrants on his campaign associates.

    Lastly, the Steele Dossier is not even mentioned in the article.
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    Jason Goodman and Kevin Shipp (former CIA officer) reveal how Schiff and others become chairman of important committees, and more about the CIA

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    Quote Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
    per Mgray's report, the following is the spin the NYTimes is taking on the DOJ's criminal probe: (The following is what the Dems will be screaming in all the liberal press)



    New York Times story on the criminal probe designation. The headline on the web reads:

    Justice Dept. Is Said to Open Criminal Inquiry Into Its Own Russia Investigation
    However the readout (below) defines the article and puts a spin that is unbelievable to me.

    The move is likely to open the attorney general to accusations that he is trying to deliver a political victory for President Trump.

    And here is the third paragraph of the Times story after laying out the news.

    The opening of a criminal investigation is likely to raise alarms that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies. Mr. Trump fired James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director under whose watch agents opened the Russia inquiry, and has long assailed other top former law enforcement and intelligence officials as partisans who sought to block his election.

    Pinning this move on a vindictive President Trump instead of stating that the Justice Department believes that laws were broken is such a partisan take I simply can’t believe it made it into the story at all. Never mind the third paragraph.

    There is no quote or comment from anyone in the story to back up this partisan take. However there is this tidbit to placate their readers in the fourth paragraph.

    The opening of a criminal investigation is likely to raise alarms that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies. Mr. Trump fired James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director under whose watch agents opened the Russia inquiry, and has long assailed other top former law enforcement and intelligence officials as partisans who sought to block his election.

    So basically the Times reporters — Katie Benner and Adam Goldman — and their editors do not know what I told my long-time readers more than a year ago. That Citizen Trump, Candidate Trump, President-elect Trump and President Trump was spied upon by the Obama White House using a fraudulent Russian Collusion document — the Steele Dossier — to obtain FISA warrants on his campaign associates.

    Lastly, the Steele Dossier is not even mentioned in the article.
    Not sure if the column makes sense without the formatting, which can be found here
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    When I read this part of mgray's column today, I thought to myself,
    Did these reporters not know about the investigation that mgray has reported on for over a year?
    If they didn't, that would make them inept.
    Or did they just choose NOT to report on it?
    We're learning more and more that the media knew, and intentionally misled their readers.
    Quote So basically the Times reporters — Katie Benner and Adam Goldman — and their editors do not know what I told my long-time readers more than a year ago. That Citizen Trump, Candidate Trump, President-elect Trump and President Trump was spied upon by the Obama White House using a fraudulent Russian Collusion document — the Steele Dossier — to obtain FISA warrants on his campaign associates.
    In an earlier part of mgray's article he mentions Misfud and links to an earlier article from 18 October.

    Quote The move by Attorney General Bill Barr comes as he and US Attorney John Durham returned from Italy earlier this month with startling information into Joseph Mifsud.
    It's good to revisit that column, too.

    And also to consider the work that Neon Revolt has done regarding Guilio Occhionero, if you haven't looked at that already. It seems connected to information discovered in Italy, too.

    I was also thinking earlier today how much I appreciate mgray and the knowledge he brings into the conversation. Thank you!

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