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    Quote Full text of translation here:

    I may be repeating myself, but I want to fight this sense of security that I see outside of the epicenters, as if nothing was going to happen "here". The media in Europe are reassuring, politicians are reassuring, while there's little to be reassured of.

    This is the English translation of a post of another ICU physician in Bergamo, Dr. Daniele Macchini. Read until the end "After much thought about whether and what to write about what is happening to us, I felt that silence was not responsible.

    I will therefore try to convey to people far from our reality what we are living in Bergamo in these days of Covid-19 pandemic. I understand the need not to create panic, but when the message of the dangerousness of what is happening does not reach people I shudder.

    I myself watched with some amazement the reorganization of the entire hospital in the past week, when our current enemy was still in the shadows: the wards slowly "emptied", elective activitieswere interrupted, intensive care were freed up to create as many beds as possible.

    All this rapid transformation brought an atmosphere of silence and surreal emptiness to the corridors of the hospital that we did not yet understand, waiting for a war that was yet to begin and that many (including me) were not so sure would ever come with such ferocity.

    I still remember my night call a week ago when I was waiting for the results of a swab. When I think about it, my anxiety over one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified, now that I've seen what's happening. Well, the situation now is dramatic to say the least.

    The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night. But now that need for beds has arrived in all its drama. One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace.

    The boards with the names of the patients, of different colours depending on the operating unit, are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.

    Now, explain to me which flu virus causes such a rapid drama. [post continues comparing covid19 to flu, link below]. And while there are still people who boast of not being afraid by ignoring directions, protesting because their normal routine is"temporarily" put in crisis,

    the epidemiological disaster is taking place. And there are no more surgeons, urologists, orthopedists, we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us.

    Cases are multiplying, we arrive at a rate of 15-20 admissions per day all for the same reason. The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive. Suddenly the E.R. is collapsing.

    Reasons for the access always the same: fever and breathing difficulties, fever and cough, respiratory failure. Radiology reports always the same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia. All to be hospitalized.

    Someone already to be intubated and go to intensive care. For others it's too late... Every ventilator becomes like gold: those in operating theatres that have now suspended their non-urgent activity become intensive care places that did not exist before.

    The staff is exhausted. I saw the tiredness on faces that didn't know what it was despite the already exhausting workloads they had. I saw a solidarity of all of us, who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask "what can I do for you now?"

    Doctors who move beds and transfer patients, who administer therapies instead of nurses. Nurses with tears in their eyes because we can't save everyone, and the vital parameters of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny.

    There are no more shifts, no more hours. Social life is suspended for us. We no longer see our families for fear of infecting them. Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols.

    Some of our colleagues who are infected also have infected relatives and some of their relatives are already struggling between life and death. So be patient, you can't go to the theatre, museums or the gym. Try to have pity on the myriad of old people you could exterminate.

    We just try to make ourselves useful. You should do the same: we influence the life and death of a few dozen people. You with yours, many more. Please share this message. We must spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy."

    I finish by saying that I really don't understand this war on panic. The only reason I see is mask shortages, but there's no mask on sale anymore. We don't have a lot of studies, but is it panic really worse than neglect and carelessness during an epidemic of this sort?
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    An Asterix Comic book from 2017 has Asterix pitted against CORONAVIRUS in ITALY. Coronavirus is the bad guy (obviously.)

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    Woooaah !! .. How is this possible ?
    Well, SARS and MERS were both coronaviruses, and so is the common cold.

    This new one isn't THE coronavirus. Coronaviruses have been around before, and this is just a new "species".

    There have been several other coronaviruses which aren't so well-known, or which ever spread widely. (But flu, including Spanish flu, isn't a coronavirus... flu is a slightly different kind of thing.)

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    Quote Full text of translation here:

    I may be repeating myself, but I want to fight this sense of security that I see outside of the epicenters, as if nothing was going to happen "here". The media in Europe are reassuring, politicians are reassuring, while there's little to be reassured of.

    This is the English translation of a post of another ICU physician in Bergamo, Dr. Daniele Macchini. Read until the end "After much thought about whether and what to write about what is happening to us, I felt that silence was not responsible.

    I will therefore try to convey to people far from our reality what we are living in Bergamo in these days of Covid-19 pandemic. I understand the need not to create panic, but when the message of the dangerousness of what is happening does not reach people I shudder.

    I myself watched with some amazement the reorganization of the entire hospital in the past week, when our current enemy was still in the shadows: the wards slowly "emptied", elective activitieswere interrupted, intensive care were freed up to create as many beds as possible.

    All this rapid transformation brought an atmosphere of silence and surreal emptiness to the corridors of the hospital that we did not yet understand, waiting for a war that was yet to begin and that many (including me) were not so sure would ever come with such ferocity.

    I still remember my night call a week ago when I was waiting for the results of a swab. When I think about it, my anxiety over one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified, now that I've seen what's happening. Well, the situation now is dramatic to say the least.

    The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night. But now that need for beds has arrived in all its drama. One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace.

    The boards with the names of the patients, of different colours depending on the operating unit, are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.

    Now, explain to me which flu virus causes such a rapid drama. [post continues comparing covid19 to flu, link below]. And while there are still people who boast of not being afraid by ignoring directions, protesting because their normal routine is"temporarily" put in crisis,

    the epidemiological disaster is taking place. And there are no more surgeons, urologists, orthopedists, we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us.

    Cases are multiplying, we arrive at a rate of 15-20 admissions per day all for the same reason. The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive. Suddenly the E.R. is collapsing.

    Reasons for the access always the same: fever and breathing difficulties, fever and cough, respiratory failure. Radiology reports always the same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia. All to be hospitalized.

    Someone already to be intubated and go to intensive care. For others it's too late... Every ventilator becomes like gold: those in operating theatres that have now suspended their non-urgent activity become intensive care places that did not exist before.

    The staff is exhausted. I saw the tiredness on faces that didn't know what it was despite the already exhausting workloads they had. I saw a solidarity of all of us, who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask "what can I do for you now?"

    Doctors who move beds and transfer patients, who administer therapies instead of nurses. Nurses with tears in their eyes because we can't save everyone, and the vital parameters of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny.

    There are no more shifts, no more hours. Social life is suspended for us. We no longer see our families for fear of infecting them. Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols.

    Some of our colleagues who are infected also have infected relatives and some of their relatives are already struggling between life and death. So be patient, you can't go to the theatre, museums or the gym. Try to have pity on the myriad of old people you could exterminate.

    We just try to make ourselves useful. You should do the same: we influence the life and death of a few dozen people. You with yours, many more. Please share this message. We must spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy."

    I finish by saying that I really don't understand this war on panic. The only reason I see is mask shortages, but there's no mask on sale anymore. We don't have a lot of studies, but is it panic really worse than neglect and carelessness during an epidemic of this sort?
    Many thanks — yes, folks need to read and understand this. This (when healthcare systems get overwhelmed to the point of human and systemic collapse) is the serious danger ahead... we're barely there just now, but all the signs are in front of us.

    Many many people don't fully understand this yet, but I can totally get this and see all the reasons why. Standing on the beach in Thailand or Indonesia and seeing the tide go out half a mile really is quite a good analogy. We're just not used to processing this kind of information when something quite abnormal and extreme very suddenly happens.

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    silly me .... thanks for clearing it up Bill .

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    Is Bill Gates Profiting From The Outbreak? Or Is Something Far More Sinister Taking Place?


    DNA DATABASE ! ?

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    Many people suspect that the coronavirus is being used as the scapegoat for a financial collapse, which Spiro Skouras believes will then be used as the excuse to usher in a new monetary and financial system of control.


    Spiro's research echoes my own observations about the convergence of Agenda 2030, Modern Monetary Theory, the blockchain, the end of the petrodollar and a new financial system based on a centralized inventory of assets and resources, including living beings and their genomes. Everything is to be put on a blockchain to become trackable nodes on the Global Information Grid (GIG).


    He says, "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is funding a program, which will soon offer an at-home testing kit for the coronavirus...[Bill Gates] must be an expert, considering his foundation co-hosted Event 201, the United Nations' pandemic simulation of a coronavirus outbreak, which preceded the actual corona virus outbreak by about six weeks and also coincided with the United Nations-themed World Military Games, which took place in Wuhan, China [the] ground zero of this outbreak...


    "If you believe you've been exposed to or infected by the virus, you can simply just go online and fill out a questionnaire and the test will be delivered to you within two hours.


    "It doesn't specify how the test will get there, who's gonna deliver it, whether it's coming by drone. We don't know. It's just 'It'll be there in two hours.' That's pretty impressive...


    "The results will be available within two days and will be shared with local health authorities so they can track your movements and your contacts, making it easier for health officials to locate others who may need to be tested and/or quarantined, as well as to track the virus, itself and its spread and possibly identify other potential hotspots.


    "This sounds a bit Orwellian to me but after all, it is a public health emergency, so I guess extreme circumstances call for extreme measures, right?


    "They state the intent for this program to expand to a state level and beyond, eventually. What I get out of this is it sounds to me like they are building a database to track potentially infected people - and not just any database but a DNA database - realistically, that has this potential because they will collect your DNA once they swab your nose and conduct this test...


    "When you start to look into other programs that Gates is involved in, we start to see a trend and this starts to raise some red flags for me. For example, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation have also funded an invisible biometric tattoo program to identify vaccinated people, which can be given at birth or throughout any time in your life.


    "And this was designed to be able to track entire nations of people now could this program be related to or at least at some point integrated into the program and the database that we were seeing the Gates Foundation setting up right now, in the United States regarding the coronavirus?


    "It's anybody's guess. We'll have to see but this isn't the only example. Another program that's connected to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the ID 2020 program, which is a program that claims that roughly 1 billion people on Earth are 'in danger' because they have no internationally-accepted form of identification.


    "So, those people who are 'at risk' include people who are affected by a refugee crisis, which, of course the current migrant crisis or refugee crisis that we have been seeing over the past several years appears very well to be an engineered crisis, using weapons of mass migration to destabilize nations.


    "And we're seeing this take place. Others, they state are at risk are people who don't have medical records documented anywhere or birth records. So, they want to be able to track your birth records, your medical records and which life-saving vaccines you may potentially need with this biometric, invisible tattoo that they'll be able to imprint on you and scan and log into their databases. This is no joke...


    "This program is not only funded by Microsoft - and Bill Gates separately - but Gates actually founded one of the main organizations named Gavi, which is leading this program. Other partners include Accenture, which is a Ripplenet partner, the Rockefeller Foundation and multiple branches of the United Nations, including its international computing Center, which will likely be running to some degree the international database.


    "This digital ID system will track everyone and everything using blockchain technology and not only will it provide medical history on you via the biometric tattoos or implanted microchips which they mentioned in these reports, it will also be used for employment and background checks and will most likely be tied to your social credit score and even your bank accounts.


    "If you want to be able to do business, buy or sell things or even be employed, you will likely have to be integrated into the system. This is why I believe that this current health crisis is no accident. It aligns with all of their goals. As we can see, right here, on the United Nations' own website. For its 2030 agenda goal number 16.9: 'By 2030, provide legal identity for all, including birth registration.'


    "This is exactly what these programs are being set up to do and they're being funded right now by people in organizations like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the United Nations and many others.


    "They are rolling out these programs, using this current crisis as cover. Cover for their new digital financial system. Cover further new global governance programs.


    "I've reported on this numerous times and we just get more and more confirmation every day. This is all connected. We can see the same players involved, under every rock that we look under...


    "The central banks will integrate almost two billion people, which they call 'the unbanked' into this new system of slavery, in partnership with the UN, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Bill Gates. These are the social engineers, with their technocratic plan for Full Spectrum Dominance and it's happening right now. This is why we are seeing this censorship take place. This is why they have tried to silence me and others in the past.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Time for a laugh.

    This is a SNL parody of a Soap Opera using viral protection technique to protect the actors. It really is pretty funny.



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    Time for a laugh.
    And, in that vein:

    I've not seen any comments, anywhere (there have to be some!!) about the unintended black humor in many media announcements of the new Bond film No Time to Die being postponed till later in the year.

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    Deight, do you have the source to the doctors statement? I´d like to investigate this further

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    Time for a laugh.
    And, in that vein:

    I've not seen any comments, anywhere (there have to be some!!) about the unintended black humor in many media announcements of the new Bond film No Time to Die being postponed till later in the year.
    Every hint that pops up indicates that the decision to do this was made late and quickly. Only a few people were tipped off. Looks like Bezos was one, he dumped a chunk of his Amazon shares quite recently.

    Are there any experts here who can tell us who else has recently dumped stock.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    according to reports on the latest advice, yet to be rolled out, here in the UK it will very soon be the case that anybody with even a mild fever will be asked to self isolate.
    therefore, unless I am missing something, there will be no accurate data on how many actual cases there are in the UK and hence no accurate data on death rates.

    i did say i would report on any weird behaviour among the residents of my town, there is the expected panic buying and a lot of black humour.

    on a side note, a friend of mine is a smoker and also enduring menopausal night sweats.. she is pretty confused right now.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Here's a 27 minute investigative report from Simone Gao about whether (or not!) the Chinese statistics and PR claims can be trusted. It was published 16 hours ago.

    For anyone reading this, who like myself is 100% certain the Chinese figures are grossly falsified (and always have been), then the video — though very measured and professionally done — may raise your blood pressure just a little.

    I can present many strong logical reasons why the current figures, proudly claiming almost zero new cases in the whole of their vast country, have to be quite meaningless. It's very easy to do.

    And the video shows a lot of them. My frustrations really center around the obedient, complicit reporting in the western mainstream media (combined with their lack of criticism of the WHO, which is criminally negligent at best). It's sometimes hard to watch all this play out.

    Of course, we'll get the real picture from places like South Korea and Italy (with accurate testing and reporting), and other countries will follow suit soon, maybe France, Germany and Spain. (Not the US!)

    In the meantime, the non-Chinese world is being presented as somehow a bunch of stumbling Keystone Kops klutzes (which is partly true), while China shines as being a model of efficiency and organization (only true inasmuch as their uber-controlling police state has claws, teeth and a great deal of ruthlessness, with zero commitment to truths of any kind).

    [/rant]. Here's the video. As always, Simone Gao and her team do an excellent (and needed) job.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Quote Posted by sunwings (here)
    An Asterix Comic book from 2017 has Asterix pitted against CORONAVIRUS in ITALY. Coronavirus is the bad guy (obviously.)

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    Woooaah !! .. How is this possible ?
    Well, SARS and MERS were both coronaviruses, and so is the common cold.

    This new one isn't THE coronavirus. Coronaviruses have been around before, and this is just a new "species".

    There have been several other coronaviruses which aren't so well-known, or which ever spread widely. (But flu, including Spanish flu, isn't a coronavirus... flu is a slightly different kind of thing.)


    If this is true about the Asterix cartoon I think it is another interesting synchronicity. Especially the further associations with Ceasar and hence Italy.
    The difference with COVID-19 compared to the cold, MERS SARS etc is that it has been referred to as the 'corona virus' by the general public.
    Despite scientists and the authorities best efforts to rename it COVID-19, 'coronavirus; is the name associated with this virus which reverberates into the depths of the collective unconscious.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    What are viruses?
    "Viruses are microscopic parasites, generally much smaller than bacteria. They lack the capacity to thrive and reproduce outside of a host body."
    Anyone like me who has recently been following this very closely may have found themselves asking the question: "How much of my 'O' level/high school biology do I remember and perhaps I do need to almost go 'back to school' for a refresher?"

    Perhaps you good reader may not need to, but this helpful and interesting article, for those of us who may need a reminder and a much needed science-y top-up, might benefit from it.

    Where there's been time today I've endeavoured to go back to revisiting what I may have missed, or forgotten, whilst daydreaming in class...(nucleic acids and polymeric molecules, here I come (again) )

    So, a read of this....

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    https://www.livescience.com/53272-what-is-a-virus.html

    ....may help to make a little more sense of the detail in this excellent article already posted way further back on this thread:

    http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus...f_Medicine.pdf

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    An interesting report, easily missed. While unverifiable, it rings very true.
    Sources: Almost 200 North Korean soldiers have died from Covid-19
    By Jeong Tae Joo, 9 March, 2020

    Sources report that the military is not cremating corpses because of the sheer number of bodies

    Around 200 North Korean soldiers from several branches of the military have died from symptoms that may have been caused by the novel coronavirus (COVID-19), Daily NK has learned.

    A Daily NK source inside North Korea’s military reported on Mar. 6 that the military’s medical corps had sent a report detailing the impact of COVID-19 on the country’s soldiers to military leaders.

    The report stated that 180 soldiers had died in January and February and that approximately 3,700 soldiers are currently under quarantine.
    According to the report, the soldiers who had died were predominantly stationed on or around the Sino-North Korean border in North Pyongan, Chagang, Ryanggang, and North Hamgyong provinces.

    The report came after the military’s leadership had ordered hospitals serving each branch of the military to collect data on the number of soldiers who had died after suffering from high fevers stemming from pneumonia, tuberculosis, asthma or colds. Military leaders also asked the hospitals to report on the numbers of those currently in quarantine.

    The report has reportedly caused an uproar in North Korea’s military establishment and has led military leaders to take several measures to prevent the spread of what appears to be COVID-19 infections.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Italy suspends mortgage repayments and tax bills – could threaten membership of the euro

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ents-suspended
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    Time for a laugh.
    And, in that vein:

    I've not seen any comments, anywhere (there have to be some!!) about the unintended black humor in many media announcements of the new Bond film No Time to Die being postponed till later in the year.
    I'd seen this recently...

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The number of new corona cases dropped dramaticly in the Netherlands over the weekend. Handshakes are no langer allowed according to our pm. But we went form 1,2,4,8,16,32,64 128 back to 64.
    This storm seems over.

    CRISPR

    Theyll still have to 'vaccinate' us first to get receptive.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Of all the things Corona related, here is one that actually deserves to go viral.

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    Exclamation Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Connah Mackay [quote]:"
    7 million verified deaths per year from smoking....no problem.
    3 million verified deaths per year from alcohol.....no problem.
    250,000 verified deaths per year from medical errors in the United States alone......no problem.
    3500 highly suspect deaths of sick people from a new virus (when the people were already in ill health and the virus is very hard to verify using existing testing methods).....SHUT THE ENTIRE WORLD DOWN!
    As you already know.......it doesn't add up.
    It's an ambush, another lie orchestrated by our government to push an agenda. No more cash, Forced vaccinations, RFID chips, NWO, #Agenda21 Depopulation (#Agenda2030) to allow global governance. I believe they’re just beginning to experiment with #5G and it’s affects have only just begun.
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    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I honestly think Italy is using this virus as an escapegoat. They are so broke and bankrupt...worse then Greece...

    It wont keep the sun from shining...

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