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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Hi all..

    I havent logged in for about 5 years now.

    Here I am

    I've read 80% of the posts on this thread.

    I saw something and wanted to report it if anyone thought this might have legs, or knows the source; here it is:

    Article is dated March 15th:

    "This morning at 4:30 a.m., Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was served a criminal indictment by the U.S. for corporate and financial crimes. Media owners were instructed to brainwash everyone that Trudeau and his wife have the Corona virus, and that they won't be leaving their house for a while.

    Tom Hanks was arrested 48 hours ago for pedophilia and he is currently being kept in a hotel room in Australia, refusing to fly back to the USA. The next celebrity arrests will be Celine Dion, Madonna, Charles Barkley, and Kevin Spacey. All will claim Corona virus infections.

    Italy's airports have been completely shut down, as over 80 Vatican and financial officials have been served the same criminal indictments for financial crime, pedophilia, child trafficking, and sex abuse.

    United Emirates have completed mass arrests of their own Royal Family and affiliates.

    Convicted Hollywood rapist Harvey Weinstein agreed to a deal in exchange for his testimony against hundreds of top Hollywood celebrities and their involvement in the drug business, pedophilia, and child trafficking. Instead of a 55-year sentence, he only received a 23-year sentence. In exchange he provided testimonies against some of the biggest and most powerful names, including Prince Andrew of the U.K., former president Bill Clinton, former vice president Joe Biden, Tom Hanks, Oprah, Ellen DeGeneres, Quentin Tarantino, Charlie Sheen, Bob Saget, Kevin Spacey, John Travolta, Steven Spielberg, Podesta, NXIVM and PIZZAGATE sex trafficking clubs, and hundreds more who all were directly involved with Jeffrey Epstein.

    Jeffrey Epstein was similarly allowed to make a deal and have his suicide in prison faked in exchange for his testimony.

    CEOs of some major world corporations have been indicted/arrested, and some have been forced to resign — all in the last 30-60 days — such as the CEOs of the NBA, Harley Davidson, the Bill Gates Foundation, Intel, McDonald's, Cesar Awards, and Disney; the Vatican Chief of Police; etc. Approximately 700-800 more resignations are coming in the next 3 months.

    The lab-created Corona virus was a cover-up for the mass mandatory vaccination agenda. Now it has become the biggest covert U.S. Intelligence operation that the world has ever seen. This mass 158,000-arrests operation will remove and capture the biggest evil and corrupted politicians, celebrities, and CEOs, including global elites and bankers such as George Soros, U.N. officials, and the founders of GRETA, inc.

    President Trump will win the 2020 elections, and arrests of former U.S. presidents will occur in early 2021. All major arrests will be portrayed by the media as accidental or as conspiracy theories. All arrested individuals will be given "Rommel Death", meaning that they will have a choice between their death bring portrayed to the public as a suicide or an accidental death in return for assurances that his or her reputation will remain intact, or, alternatively, they can choose to face a criminal trial that would result in public disgrace.

    Some top religious leaders will be arrested or forced to resign, and some will suddenly get "sick." The Vatican will be the first, and the Pope will be removed in 2020. Production of human extracted Adrenochrome will be revealed, and Hollywood and the Vatican will be exposed as being directly responsible for that.

    Coming up there will be a 2-month complete shutdown of the world's most common operations, such as schools, the stock exchange, some banks, airports, shipping, travel, events, galas, expos, sport games, sport championships, music award ceremonies, NBA/NHL/Baseball games, and ship cruises. (TEMPORARY)>> There will be food shortages and staged electricity power loss. Gas prices will go down, food costs will go up, insurance will go up, gold and silver stocks will fall, and many corporations will either go bankrupt or take a significant financial loss, such as in the case of what's about to happen to Air Canada, Disney, and Coca-Cola.

    Welcome to the Geat Awakening. What's about to happen this summer and fall will change the world's history."


    Mod note from Bill: here's the source link, one of many on the net. But re the "mass arrests", this is almost certainly Qanon-fantasy nonsense. For instance, Tom Hanks is now hanging out in a rental home, as many reading this may know.
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 19th March 2020 at 10:01.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    I just got the following forwarded to me, from someone in Chicago. I redacted one name.
    A friend just sent this from her uncle in the national guard:

    He said that they are preparing to mobilize the national guard. Preparing to dispatch them across the US along with military. Next they will call in 1st responders. He said they are preparing to announce a nationwide 1 week quarantine for all citizens All businesses closed. Everyone at home. They were told to pack and be prepared for up to 30 days deployment which he said means they may extend the quarantine up to 30 days. He told me to notify our family members and have them stock up and be prepared.
    Wow. It's playing out, all the things we've been talking about for years. Strange to see that. Buckle up. We'll get through.

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    Quote Posted by Phoenix (here)
    Hi all..

    I havent logged in for about 5 years now.

    Here I am

    I've read 80% of the posts on this thread.

    I saw something and wanted to report it if anyone thought this might have legs, or knows the source; here it is:

    Article is dated March 15th:

    "This morning at 4:30 a.m., Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was served a criminal indictment by the U.S. for corporate and financial crimes. Media owners were instructed to brainwash everyone that Trudeau and his wife have the Corona virus, and that they won't be leaving their house for a while.

    Tom Hanks was arrested 48 hours ago for pedophilia and he is currently being kept in a hotel room in Australia, refusing to fly back to the USA. The next celebrity arrests will be Celine Dion, Madonna, Charles Barkley, and Kevin Spacey. All will claim Corona virus infections.

    Italy's airports have been completely shut down, as over 80 Vatican and financial officials have been served the same criminal indictments for financial crime, pedophilia, child trafficking, and sex abuse.

    United Emirates have completed mass arrests of their own Royal Family and affiliates.

    Convicted Hollywood rapist Harvey Weinstein agreed to a deal in exchange for his testimony against hundreds of top Hollywood celebrities and their involvement in the drug business, pedophilia, and child trafficking. Instead of a 55-year sentence, he only received a 23-year sentence. In exchange he provided testimonies against some of the biggest and most powerful names, including Prince Andrew of the U.K., former president Bill Clinton, former vice president Joe Biden, Tom Hanks, Oprah, Ellen DeGeneres, Quentin Tarantino, Charlie Sheen, Bob Saget, Kevin Spacey, John Travolta, Steven Spielberg, Podesta, NXIVM and PIZZAGATE sex trafficking clubs, and hundreds more who all were directly involved with Jeffrey Epstein.

    Jeffrey Epstein was similarly allowed to make a deal and have his suicide in prison faked in exchange for his testimony.

    CEOs of some major world corporations have been indicted/arrested, and some have been forced to resign — all in the last 30-60 days — such as the CEOs of the NBA, Harley Davidson, the Bill Gates Foundation, Intel, McDonald's, Cesar Awards, and Disney; the Vatican Chief of Police; etc. Approximately 700-800 more resignations are coming in the next 3 months.

    The lab-created Corona virus was a cover-up for the mass mandatory vaccination agenda. Now it has become the biggest covert U.S. Intelligence operation that the world has ever seen. This mass 158,000-arrests operation will remove and capture the biggest evil and corrupted politicians, celebrities, and CEOs, including global elites and bankers such as George Soros, U.N. officials, and the founders of GRETA, inc.

    President Trump will win the 2020 elections, and arrests of former U.S. presidents will occur in early 2021. All major arrests will be portrayed by the media as accidental or as conspiracy theories. All arrested individuals will be given "Rommel Death", meaning that they will have a choice between their death bring portrayed to the public as a suicide or an accidental death in return for assurances that his or her reputation will remain intact, or, alternatively, they can choose to face a criminal trial that would result in public disgrace.

    Some top religious leaders will be arrested or forced to resign, and some will suddenly get "sick." The Vatican will be the first, and the Pope will be removed in 2020. Production of human extracted Adrenochrome will be revealed, and Hollywood and the Vatican will be exposed as being directly responsible for that.

    Coming up there will be a 2-month complete shutdown of the world's most common operations, such as schools, the stock exchange, some banks, airports, shipping, travel, events, galas, expos, sport games, sport championships, music award ceremonies, NBA/NHL/Baseball games, and ship cruises. (TEMPORARY)>> There will be food shortages and staged electricity power loss. Gas prices will go down, food costs will go up, insurance will go up, gold and silver stocks will fall, and many corporations will either go bankrupt or take a significant financial loss, such as in the case of what's about to happen to Air Canada, Disney, and Coca-Cola.

    Welcome to the Geat Awakening. What's about to happen this summer and fall will change the world's history."
    Sounds to me that "Q" got hold of some psilocybin mushrooms. I'd love to be wrong.

    Welcome to the forum, Phoenix. Sorry to cast doubt on your first post.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Everything is emptying out and shutting down. At least in my local area. The children are no longer in school, those over 65, asked to stay in place at home, and day by day more small businesses are shutting down. The stores, and online suppliers are running short of the most basic of items, and I doubt they will be replenished before they are closed down, or running on a skeleton staff.

    I have been paying attention, and I fully expect that everyone will be asked to go home.. And stay put. A week or two? A month or more? I do not know. When it will happen? Probably sooner than later as everyone seems to know it's coming... And I do know it is coming.. it appears Wuhan is STILL in a stay put mode... So if this is any indication of what we will be facing.. It's going to be a long haul. I am prepared, I hope you are as well..

    I just wanted to say this.. I hope that everyone helps their neighbors. If they didn't have the funds to stock up, offer them a meal, some toilet paper, whatever you can to make sure we all get through this.. I hate to think of children going hungry because mom can't afford to stock up, or worse...Their only safety was being away from their parents at all..

    So please, be kind to your neighbors. You never know what is truly going on behind their closed doors.. If you suspect someone is hungry, offer them a meal if you have extra. If you filled your entire garage with toilet tissue? Share some of it.

    I just wanted to wish everyone GOOD LUCK! I live in an area where we get snow, everything goes quiet, many lose power, and so we prepare. But the sounds of silence never cease to amaze me.. And I think many will be experiencing something like this for the first time in big cities.. You won't know what to do with yourself within your homes.. Nowhere to go, nothing to go do...

    Actually? Perhaps we all needed some time to be alone with our true thoughts, not those of others constantly bombarding us. Hopefully we will all come out of this with a new kinder, more gentle, and far more relaxed attitude.. Because we truly need some change in this world, we need to slow down and think about what we're doing to ourselves, this planet, and how we treat those around us.

    Sorry to derail the topic, I just wanted to stop talking about the "What if" scenarios, the statistics, and everything else, and reach out to my peers and say.. I WISH YOU WELL...
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I hesitated to share this, because I wasn't sure if it could be true, but
    will share it here anyway, make of it what you will.
    I had a friend call me today who knows someone in a position to know, who called
    and told them to get out and get whatever they might need before the weekend, because
    something big was coming down.....and that they could say no more.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    We are living through historic times, there is virtually not a person, animal or business on the planet that has not been touched by this event in one way or another. In the next week or two, virtually all businesses except essential business will grind to a halt. This will make 9-11-2001 fade into the history books. Environmentalist will look back and mark this time when air, road and train travel ground to a halt. Economist and bankers will be discussing the impact of this for decades. Technology will be upgraded all over the planet after this is over so that more students can take classes from home and more office workers can be farmed out to their home offices. Every school business and government agency from local to national will develop (or update) pandemic plans. Brick and mortar businesses have been on a slow decline for more than a decade and this will hasten their demise. The few malls around the world that are still surviving will most likely go by the wayside.

    Governments around the world will be judged on how well (or poorly) they handled this crisis. World leaders will change as a result of their actions or inaction. The media has been screaming about a possible pandemic for years and now that they have one which they partially created it may speed up the ever so slow decline. In certain circles, the media's role in this will be discussed ad nauseam.

    This will have a major impact on how people think about China and how governments do business with them. The One Belt One Road (OBOR) initiative which has allowed China to lend money to countries around the globe and eventually raid their resources will probably come to an end but we won't hear much about it. Governments around the world will start pulling strategic manufacturing out of China. Depending on how China chooses to handle this crisis it could put us all on the brink of WWIII. Not trying to an alarmist here but I see it as a distinct possibility. Lastly, this will have a very negative impact on one-world government initiatives. Borders will look like a reasonable avenue for survival.

    It is usually difficult to understand the significance of the times we are living through. Sadly it will not be the death toll that will be discussed or even matter it will be the impact on governments and economies. And of course, conspiracy theories will be bounding around for the next 100 years, some may even be correct but we will never know the truth.

    It will serve us all well to discard bias and dishonest media and remember the facts as best we can. It will be a topic of discussion for the rest of our lives.
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    Apparently ventilators are already becoming unavailable in New York. I read this on reddit and it makes sense of the dilemma of production. If we do get though this epicsode, we need to rethink EVERYTHING about the soso specialized and compartmentalized technocracy.

    In a way, the sheer imbecility implied in the following makes me think that PERHAPS this was not a planned roll out of an agenda but the culmination of the piled on and piled on inability to comprehend how fragile we are?

    Quote user/PlagueofCorpulenceVentilators are known designs. They don't have to develop anything. Just pass a law giving them power to compel manufactuers to act. The government's have had since January to prepare and yet they are only now asking for help.
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    Ventilators are known designs. They don't have to develop anything. Just pass a law giving them power to compel manufactuers to act.

    Manufacturing engineer here. You have no idea what you are talking about. I don't mean that as an attack, I mean that to point out that it isn't that simple and I'd like to inform you about some realities in Manufacturing.

    Manufactured products like ventilators today are built to high tolerances and are often much more complex than manufactured items in the 1940s. They involve high tolerances, lots of various materials, and often complex computer controlled equipment to make the various parts.

    Retooling a factory is not like changing your drill bits and now you're building ventilators. It may take a month or more to pivot a factory like that. You need a production plan. I had a college class where I made a production plan for a hydraulic press. A relatively simple one. It took us an entire semester about 40 hours a week with 2-3 people to create this plan.

    Also when you say "manufacturers should act." Let's break that statement down. Manufacturers is a broad category. They make a large variety of finished goods. Let's take the factory that manufactures MDF wood laminate table tops. That factory is not going to be building ventilators, or even parts for ventilators using their CNC routers, table saws, laminate press, and edge banding machines.

    Neither is the factory that makes soda cans using custom, purpose built manufacturing equipment that literally only make soda cans.

    The job shop with 60 CNC Mills could do it.

    Factories today are often highly specialized, and have lots of secondary parts suppliers for complex products. A factory that makes power drills for example may buy it's battery cells from one manufacturer, the electric motor from another, and hire a contract manufacturer to make the molded housings.

    The factory that fills the soda cans gets them from a factory that makes the soda cans.

    Ford factories buy lots of parts from other factories.

    You often have to coordinate multiple factories together to supply all that is required for a complex medical device like a ventilator.

    And then, medical device industry is highly regulated and has things like clean room facilities for assembly and testing etc. Depending on what's being made.

    So it's very easy to log into Reddit and say "Manufacturers should start building ventilators right away there is no excuse".

    The reality of modern Manufacturing is much more nuanced and complex than you know.

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    Coronavirus Lockdown! Now It Gets Tough




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    There’s an article (in Norwegian) just posted in the MSM here (NRK) that tells of American politicians who fears that China might use its position as a producer of medicines as a leverage to get the US/Trump to apologize for calling the virus Chinese.

    The title of the article is «China threatens «to drown USA in the mighty sea of coronavirus»» [my translation].
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Chlorine dioxide gas (=MMS) for use in treating respiratory virus infection ----A list of patents of inventions (!?)to use Chlorine dioxide gas to clean rooms,public spaces,and a list of devises
    for internal use. And references to experments done on animals through the years.
    It really looks like a simple ,doable solution to make workspaces virus free!!
    Apperently these inventions and products exist already since the eighties! So why is mms then still not distributed all over the place?? Its cheap and proven to be safe and 100 % effective!
    here is the link: https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1955719B1/en

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    See the problem is really much vaster than what people have been told now and what they know about. I agree that it has to be ones hobby to study biology here on Earth with all its diversity to understand what’s going on in the realm of human population either,
    studying just few of them is insufficient.

    Anyone who was submerged in biological studies on the cusp of the millennium and preceding it can understand the following:

    Viral diseases in humans

    Out of trillions viruses invading us only about a hundred or two have been described, well researched, sequenced, yet we don’t have good medicines against either.

    These are the WHO numbers for STIs( sexually transmitted diseases) now common in human populace, those numbers are staggering and far beyond the competence of Covid 19.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-s...fections-(stis)


    Believe me that anyone who studied biology and especially microbiology from scratch and knows what is it all about will insist on keeping themselves clean till the end of their lifetime.
    The utter ignorance of individuals trying to “flirt” with facts, praise themselves for being free and dirty is not only annoying it’s straight risky.

    People with no manners consider their bodies “safe and clean” equals illiteracy.

    Bill Gates should consider complexity of the problem we are facing. As someone who are not a biologist he seems to be focused in one direction such as developing vaccines,
    unfortunately there’s no cure and we would ever be able to vaccinate people against all the above without compromising their immune system for generations.

    Now if they’re testing people for Covid 19, even if they just developed the right test, how many of those people have number of other viral infections that will eventually kill them anyway.
    That’s to say anyone on the Big Picture science should discuss this openly,
    inform people, teach about prevention and focus on finding cures
    but prevention is 100% more important at this point,
    preventing the spread.

    It’s a global problem, not a Chinese or American problem, increased exponentially by the chemical and gas emissions poured/released to the environment by tons everyday making our self defence mechanisms insufficient, add electromagnetic pollution and your not so favourite 5G, the food we can’t eat and so forth.

    If you learn why is this happening you may also understand what are we up against and why is it important to stop it.

    Why do we need pure environment, clean habits and manners to survive and live worthy life. Why human being is not an animal to be bred and mate with animals.

    If you could understand where did we “come from” you can also appreciate the whole span of difficulty ultimately we are facing now.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Good morning Bill,
    Has the whistle-blower been back in touch since? It would d be useful to know his take on all of this.

    Apologies if this question has already been asked.

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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    Everything is emptying out and shutting down. At least in my local area. The children are no longer in school, those over 65, asked to stay in place at home, and day by day more small businesses are shutting down. The stores, and online suppliers are running short of the most basic of items, and I doubt they will be replenished before they are closed down, or running on a skeleton staff.

    I have been paying attention, and I fully expect that everyone will be asked to go home.. And stay put. A week or two? A month or more? I do not know. When it will happen? Probably sooner than later as everyone seems to know it's coming... And I do know it is coming.. it appears Wuhan is STILL in a stay put mode... So if this is any indication of what we will be facing.. It's going to be a long haul. I am prepared, I hope you are as well..

    I just wanted to say this.. I hope that everyone helps their neighbors. If they didn't have the funds to stock up, offer them a meal, some toilet paper, whatever you can to make sure we all get through this.. I hate to think of children going hungry because mom can't afford to stock up, or worse...Their only safety was being away from their parents at all..

    So please, be kind to your neighbors. You never know what is truly going on behind their closed doors.. If you suspect someone is hungry, offer them a meal if you have extra. If you filled your entire garage with toilet tissue? Share some of it.

    I just wanted to wish everyone GOOD LUCK! I live in an area where we get snow, everything goes quiet, many lose power, and so we prepare. But the sounds of silence never cease to amaze me.. And I think many will be experiencing something like this for the first time in big cities.. You won't know what to do with yourself within your homes.. Nowhere to go, nothing to go do...

    Actually? Perhaps we all needed some time to be alone with our true thoughts, not those of others constantly bombarding us. Hopefully we will all come out of this with a new kinder, more gentle, and far more relaxed attitude.. Because we truly need some change in this world, we need to slow down and think about what we're doing to ourselves, this planet, and how we treat those around us.

    Sorry to derail the topic, I just wanted to stop talking about the "What if" scenarios, the statistics, and everything else, and reach out to my peers and say.. I WISH YOU WELL...

    re the bolded above -

    it would be an amazing turn around if the interruption of our 'normal' routines and addictions ushered in a widespread spiritual awakening and/or enlightenment -

    there is something indomitable about the human spirit and since WW2 Western Nations have been pretty safe and comfortable - people are talking about this being the biggest thing - shake up (for us) - since WW2 - so maybe when it's over it will have been the catalyst for something good -

    here's hoping

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    This will be no doubt an unpopular opinion here, but hear me out. I'm agreeing with what I'm about to say on a rational, factual level, but not on an emotional level.

    Coronavirus is good for the planet. And for humanity.
    There are way too many people that live way too long, unnaturally old. Best case scenario, they don't have to spend the last 10 years of their life suffering on a hospital bed with their personality and memory gone, but they can die a natural, quick death, which is a beautiful thing. Death is a natural, NESCESSARY thing that can also be beautiful.
    Anyway, my point being that People consume resources and fly in a manner that WILL lead to a catastrophe sooner or later if nothing is done. The virus reminds us of that. Our way of life these days is unsustainable. Not. Sustainable.

    In a purely biologial point of view, and in the longer run, the more people this thing kills, the better it is in the longer run for humanity as a species, and for the planet. May sound harsh, but that's just nature. No good, no bad, just one thing after another.

    The price we pay now is a short period of (mostly) individual tragedies, but this will clear the air (literally). Reducing the population is what is needed in order to survive as a species. In fact, the positive impact this thing has already had on the environment, climate, and the quality of air, it's probably saved more lives than it's taken.

    Please don't judge, this is not meant to belittle anyone's shortcomings and my heart goes out to anyone and everyone suffering because of this.

    Oh and btw, I will definitely take the vaccine if they come up with one, not for myself, but for those around me.
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    Quote Posted by Free Bird (here)
    Good morning Bill,
    Has the whistle-blower been back in touch since? It would d be useful to know his take on all of this.

    Apologies if this question has already been asked.

    (Note to other readers: this is a question about The Anglo-Saxon Mission.)


    My contact (a Mason and retired British naval officer) passed away a year ago. But I'm quite certain he shared all he knew back in 2010.

    He was only a low-level Mason, and he was very surprised to have been invited to the City of London senior Masonic meeting that he witnessed. He thought it was some administrative error that he was there, so he just sat very quietly and listened carefully, with increasing horror as the plans were presented. That was the only meeting he attended.

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    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    475 deaths in one day in Italy. China never had these kind of figures.

    No one seems to be addresing this issue, which either must be due to China lying, or a mutation of the virus, or a combination of both.

    The aging population and health of Italians cannot explain all the difference.
    UN Population numbers put Lombardy at 10,000,000 people.

    Theirr death rate is about 10 / 1000 people die every year.

    so 1 out of 100.

    So...1%

    So 1% of 10,000,000 is 100,000

    100,000 / 365 is 274.

    274 people should be dying every day in Lombardy..

    so 475 is pretty close, having nothing to do with anything new perhaps

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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Reports from here and there of transporter loads of military wagons etc.
    Not going into to many details or links, here is one of our News Papers.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...y-coronavirus/

    Well the ball's starting to speed up.

    Love you all
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    Have seen footage of actual main battle tanks moving towards London on transporters - last night.

    What ever are they anticipating for the lock down period?

    Could it tie in with the recent google changes that will undoubtedly trigger a lot of general conspiracy chat?
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Mike Adams ( the health ranger ) admits himself that he is NOT a conspiracy theorist.

    His spreadsheet modelling is all based on the fiction covid-19-specific death data.

    He clings tightly to his 'record' that he was right about Trump declaring a national emergency when he did. Yea right, but, As I said ( and he himself states ) he's not a conspiracy theorist.

    He doesn't factor in the probability that Trump is straddling two narratives, hence why Trump is "looking" so stupid and "wrong". On the one hand, he has to get to his objective goal, on the other hand, he has to maintain the "emergency" because the "emergency" is the cover for the completion of the operation he stepped up and voluteered for in the first place.
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    Quote Posted by take (here)
    This will be no doubt an unpopular opinion here, but hear me out. I'm agreeing with what I'm about to say on a rational, factual level, but not on an emotional level.

    Coronavirus is good for the planet. And for humanity.
    There are way too many people that live way too long, unnaturally old. Best case scenario, they don't have to spend the last 10 years of their life suffering on a hospital bed with their personality and memory gone, but they can die a natural, quick death, which is a beautiful thing. Death is a natural, NESCESSARY thing that can also be beautiful.
    Anyway, my point being that People consume resources and fly in a manner that WILL lead to a catastrophe sooner or later if nothing is done. The virus reminds us of that. Our way of life these days is unsustainable. Not. Sustainable.

    In a purely biologial point of view, and in the longer run, the more people this thing kills, the better it is in the longer run for humanity as a species, and for the planet. May sound harsh, but that's just nature. No good, no bad, just one thing after another.

    The price we pay now is a short period of (mostly) individual tragedies, but this will clear the air (literally). Reducing the population is what is needed in order to survive as a species. In fact, the positive impact this thing has already had on the environment, climate, and the quality of air, it's probably saved more lives than it's taken.

    Please don't judge, this is not meant to belittle anyone's shortcomings and my heart goes out to anyone and everyone suffering because of this.

    Oh and btw, I will definitely take the vaccine if they come up with one, not for myself, but for those around me.
    Dear take I resonated with your post so much,
    Unfortunately I don’t have much political or economical knowledge to use as a basis for any needed analysis and to give an insight on this matter like the rest of dear strong members here but at least I can give out a perspective huh?

    This is true especially where I live, not that we are belittling people or being harsh but I have seen with my own eyes how much suffering overpopulation will cause for their own. even if you don’t mention people, we have so many feral cats here that keep on overproducing and its so hard watching them all parents and kids die by an unsustainable environment, we shouldn’t reach the point where nature has no more resource and it starts to destroy us because that’s when it gets hard and we lose our dignity. dying young, having no food or being hit by the cars and many avoidable diseases, the only solution sure is sterilizing and stoping this cycle of death because cats are no wild animals and following the logic people are no animals at all, there needs to be a high standard for living.

    Here in Iran people just keep on having so many children, they keep on building so many high rises for more people to come into town and the traffic gets worse everyday. And you know at one point people will just copy each other in every aspect of life and wont contribute some originality, some character or anything! You see so many people talking the same walking the same so what’s the point when they’re not even in touch with themselves?

    I myself sometimes feel that my life has gotten half meaningless and I have become half paralyzed and can’t reach my full (ok I don’t want to brag haha but I believe in myself) high potential anymore because there’s no space left, I mean It’s been one year that they started to build a 20 story across our house with no regard for neighbors and bribing the police and I haven’t slept any good night sleep because of all the noise and the pollution has caused me acute lung inflammation which I’m waiting to celebrate with covid-19 and I’m only 25, oh and the other neighbor which has turned their house into a filming spot with all the noisy crew every other day. I sometimes think that maybe I have to accept death for a better world without all the energy someone like me lost.

    Just some days into the quarantine here and I already hear so many birds singing their lungs out out of joy! And I sometimes get amazed by how clear I see the clouds.

    Oh and by the way 2 famous figures have already died here apart from so many doctors(one took ibuprofen because fever wouldn’t subside) and nurses (wishing them all rest), one an economy professor called Fariborz Raisdana (71 was his age) and the other a member of Irans assembly of experts called Hashem Bathaie Golpayegani(79)
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    Quote Posted by carnavas (here)
    Quote Posted by take (here)
    This will be no doubt an unpopular opinion here, but hear me out. I'm agreeing with what I'm about to say on a rational, factual level, but not on an emotional level.

    Coronavirus is good for the planet. And for humanity.
    There are way too many people that live way too long, unnaturally old. Best case scenario, they don't have to spend the last 10 years of their life suffering on a hospital bed with their personality and memory gone, but they can die a natural, quick death, which is a beautiful thing. Death is a natural, NESCESSARY thing that can also be beautiful.
    Anyway, my point being that People consume resources and fly in a manner that WILL lead to a catastrophe sooner or later if nothing is done. The virus reminds us of that. Our way of life these days is unsustainable. Not. Sustainable.

    In a purely biologial point of view, and in the longer run, the more people this thing kills, the better it is in the longer run for humanity as a species, and for the planet. May sound harsh, but that's just nature. No good, no bad, just one thing after another.

    The price we pay now is a short period of (mostly) individual tragedies, but this will clear the air (literally). Reducing the population is what is needed in order to survive as a species. In fact, the positive impact this thing has already had on the environment, climate, and the quality of air, it's probably saved more lives than it's taken.

    Please don't judge, this is not meant to belittle anyone's shortcomings and my heart goes out to anyone and everyone suffering because of this.

    Oh and btw, I will definitely take the vaccine if they come up with one, not for myself, but for those around me.
    Dear take I resonated with your post so much,
    Unfortunately I don’t have much political or economical knowledge to use as a basis for any needed analysis and to give an insight on this matter like the rest of dear strong members here but at least I can give out a perspective huh?

    This is true especially where I live, not that we are belittling people or being harsh but I have seen with my own eyes how much suffering overpopulation will cause for their own. even if you don’t mention people, we have so many feral cats here that keep on overproducing and its so hard watching them all parents and kids die by an unsustainable environment, we shouldn’t reach the point where nature has no more resource and it starts to destroy us because that’s when it gets hard and we lose our dignity. dying young, having no food or being hit by the cars and many avoidable diseases, the only solution sure is sterilizing and stoping this cycle of death because cats are no wild animals and following the logic people are no animals at all, there needs to be a high standard for living.

    Here in Iran people just keep on having so many children, they keep on building so many high rises for more people to come into town and the traffic gets worse everyday. And you know at one point people will just copy each other in every aspect of life and wont contribute some originality, some character or anything! You see so many people talking the same walking the same so what’s the point when they’re not even in touch with themselves?

    I myself sometimes feel that my life has gotten half meaningless and I have become half paralyzed and can’t reach my full (ok I don’t want to brag haha but I believe in myself) high potential anymore because there’s no space left, I mean It’s been one year that they started to build a 20 story across our house with no regard for neighbors and bribing the police and I haven’t slept any good night sleep because of all the noise and the pollution has caused me acute lung inflammation which I’m waiting to celebrate with covid-19 and I’m only 25, oh and the other neighbor which has turned their house into a filming spot with all the noisy crew every other day. I sometimes think that maybe I have to accept death for a better world without all the energy someone like me lost.

    Just some days into the quarantine here and I already hear so many birds singing their lungs out out of joy! And I sometimes get amazed by how clear I see the clouds.

    Oh and by the way 2 famous figures have already died here apart from so many doctors(one took ibuprofen because fever wouldn’t subside) and nurses (wishing them all rest), one an economy professor called Fariborz Raisdana (71 was his age) and the other a member of Irans assembly of experts called Hashem Bathaie Golpayegani(79)
    Thank you so much for your response. All the best to Iran, stay safe!

    Edit: news like these give me so much joy and hope. Dolphins swimming in the Venetian canals after lockdown!https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-a4390686.html
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    I apologize, really don't like to publish this here, but the circumstances are "extraordinary".

    Bergamo, in Northern Italy: Army trucks transporting dead people from Covid-19, to be cremated in other locations.



    for record pourposes, indeed
    (and my sincere condolences)

    -- edit -- to clarify any adverse innuendo
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I would say fear porn to that. And if you don't have any credible source (which is no doubt the case), I wouldn't post it here.
    it may not have been a good post, but claim it is not credible using stereotype without any evidence of claim is even worse.

    this "info" was published by a brazilian journalist who lives in Italy, is married with an italian woman, and has two italian children.

    --re-edit-- to fact-checking
    Quote Posted by Dorjezigzag (here)
    Here you go Onawah, this is a link to a major London newspaper

    Some people need to wake up and smell the coffee
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/19/army-...taly-12423685/
    many thanks .. agree to take a coffe-break
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