Posted by Sammy
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Posted by Dennis Leahy
(here)
Now edina, you know this isn't true.
Q has been presented as an "insider" or "whistleblower" here at Avalon, which is certainly fair game for others to analyze and debunk. Take two giant steps backward, and when Q first started lauding known mobster criminals and even one of the most obvious 9/11 co-conspirators, Rudy G, it became utterly obvious that Q was bogus. Q elevated Trump to a status far different than reality, and exonerated all of the other mobsters surrounding Trump, choosing to only focus on Democrats. That made Q partisan, and a propagandist.
When Q echoed the Zionist war cry against Iran - the same war cry as has been used by the Zionists against Iran for at least half a century - I stepped into the Q thread and called it out. Totally in context ("the flow"), utterly relevant, and true. If you expect dissenters to match "the tone" of the Q thread, which was reverent, even sycophantic, towards Q and Trump, then you have no idea what "dissent" means. Did you really expect someone would come into the Q thread after Q stated, "REGIME CHANGE IRAN!", and do an Eddie Haskell routine to match the existing "tone" of the thread? "
Oh gee, Mrs. Cleaver, your hair really looks swell today! Oh, and by the way, I was kinda wondering if you think that it was odd when Q echoed the Zionist propaganda against Iran. Oh, and did I mention that your hair smells nice too?"
You don't get to dictate the tone of a dissenter, edina. Nor should you want to, if you are looking for truth - especially "in the swamp."
I do not think anyone here has the ability to claim what another believes or not to be true. Stating "Now edina, you know this isn't true," is such a tactic. I thought the established, cornerstone members here would rise above this type of provocation.
That was very unfair.
A crafty dissenter pushes the envelope as far as they can within the framework of the venue and in consideration of the power they perceive they hold within that framework (influence is a form of power). They then push and push and push in the open forum while working through carefully selected back channels to create "break points" that often result in schisms.
They often make statements pointing to conspiracies (and stated as established fact). The all but professional pot-stirrer writes these statements not just for their targets, but for readers who share their underlying ideologies
and also have bought into (as many here, including myself, far more so in the past) some of the conspiracies and thus are prone to being ginned up over the inciting statements - Zionists, 9/11 'convicted' conspirators, etc.
The deck is stacked, the schism occurs and the results are that we are all left with a venue where only a single ideology remains. They ensure no outsiders (non-members) who are open minded and/or share alternative ideologies/views/world views, etc. never get a glimpse that anything but the single ideology desired by the influential, back-channeled and organized "dissenters" by use of censorship to the public. "Members Only." By isolating the black sheep, they can be, one by one, picked off each time one experiences emotions that they can't well enough contain and then BAM, the hammer comes, often in the form of falling on their own sword.
I say all the above as a veteran who has seen it many, many, many times.
This is what it seems has happened here at Project Avalon both in August of 2018 and then culminating in what happened in June/July of 2019. I state this only because I observed it as a non-posting observer (retired member).
IMO we all have a responsibility to rise above this. Some may feel they have the responsibility to create and/or participate in what I described above... and feel they are doing "the world" a greater good if they achieve the results that it seems has happened here on the Project Avalon forum with regards to a phenomenon like Q, Qanon, etc.
My interest has been to try and figure out what could possibly be of interest, why it has become such a prolific phenomenon and along the way I have learned more and more about human beings. I have also been entertained by the Youtubers who have jumped on board the Q train. In some cases, these folks provide all sorts of additional reasons to "buy into" or NOT, this phenomenon.
Here's a great example and I allow you to decide if this guy supports the possible legitimacy of Q or otherwise.
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