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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Caliban, reporting 'J.B's comment) (here)
    He's a big skeptic of this whole thing and even questions that "viruses," which he sees as being inherent to the body as only a defensive posture, can be transferred from person to person.
    Well, maybe he should read up on the history of smallpox!
    I don't think he's addressed the smallpox epidemics directly but if you search out his comments a bit, you'll find an indirect answer --- from his point of view.

    Here's another bit from him. I won't post anymore of him, just found this interesting food for thought. It's kinda long:

    In other words, you can use soap to clean grease off the floor. Likewise, in the body, viruses are made of protein structures and act like soaps, engulfing and breaking down other proteins, disassembling and dissolving them into benign particles. Viruses change the PH of what they directly come in contact with and touch, which is part of the dissolution process....

    What actually takes place is that cells are manufacturing viruses, and viruses may also break down waste accumulations within the cell itself. This is not invasion to destroy the cell. This is why cells are not killed in the process, either in the creation and exit of the cell or through ‘infection’ of cells....

    Let us think: If a virus’s goal is to infect and replicate, then what is their end goal and motive to do so? Science has no answer. Science claims they are there to replicate endlessly without cause. What is their end game? On the one hand, science claims they are acting this out with their own reasoning. On the other hand, they cannot reason because they’re not alive. Where does this occur in nature? Nowhere. All living functions of nature have a motive and reason and cause to survive and live. But viruses are not alive and have no functionality. They are not survivalists. They do not know the meaning. They are not alive to do so. So what gives?

    Now, science claims viruses infect other cells through the process of endocytosis. They claim a virus comes into contact with the host cell and introduces viral material into the cell. For a non-living entity, these viruses sure are smart. Quite amazing how they first replicated themselves in nature, and then set out to infect all living animals—and they’re not even alive!…what a feat of nature. But wait, science itself says viruses must have a living host to replicate. Answer? Viruses have no brain function mind you.

    Logical answer: Viruses only function along with white blood cells that guide and assist their behavior. Viruses float in the blood and tissue in free suspension. They function only with the direction of antibodies, which is just a type of white blood cell, wherein they are guided. They are encoded with RNA, and/or DNA during creation, which is literally the only ‘functionality’ about them, which directs them at the behest of antibodies what to dissolve through this ‘coding sequence’ which is actually just imparted energies of negative and positive attraction embedded in the virus coating that repels or attract it. Every living part of the body contains this behavior. It is electric energy, part of Zeta Potential. This, again, is directed and assisted by antibodies. Note: The body does not use ‘coding’. We’re not computers.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The longer I observe this all, the fishier it is starting to feel.

    Once Mike Adams started reporting on this in January I believe, it was apparent this was going to spread across the world. I watched as governments and health organizations told us this was nothing to worry about, while I was busy spending all my spare money to resupply my bulk food buckets.

    Now all the ones denying a possible pandemic a month ago are the same ones welcoming tyranny with open arms, and the ones warning people a month ago are now warning that the government will soon be over reaching with draconian measures.

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t self isolate for at least 2 weeks(though it should have been done back in Feb) I am saying there feels to be a very sinister motive going on here, and feels very scripted. Although it is also very possible our governments and institutions are just grossly incompetent.

    So far this is what I am seeing as the seeds of destruction being sown by the governments and the fed
    1. We have several government using cell phone data to track cases/spread
    2. We now have zero reserve lending, instead of fractional ie: banks can loan money using zero collateral
    3. Feds telling the public they have INFINITE cash to prop up the economy
    4. unemployment growing exponentially, could have been avoided with competent leadership

    In my opinion this is absolutely not fake, but never let a good crisis go to waste, eh?
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Reality Check ... Truth-CHECK: Seasonal FLU "TWICE as Deadly" as Coronavirus?

    I've been warning for the past few weeks so just take a look at the numbers from the W.H.O. and in an “apples to apples” comparison, the Coronavirus has HALF the mortality rate of the seasonal flu when it comes to "death to confirmed cases" ratio.



    --o-O-o--

    Finally some decent reporting (...) imagine we had 1000s reporters like him worldwide!

    You almost think MSM is more dangerous than anything else ... on top of that and they want to silence others.

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    He can crunch all numbers all day long. Forget about numbers and rates. At the end of the day, the gigantic glaring problem is still one that we never had to face in years past "WE WILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH BEDS" to treat all the sick and our health care system will break down overnight. Folks, am I really spreading fear here?!

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    My brother tested positive for Covid-19 and is happy for me to share what he wrote to me. He's in Italy.
    Please read this - there are still way way too many people in denial about this at the moment.
    "Big guy,

    They didn’t do a full test in the end as my vitals were showing I was recovering already - I’ve been in quarantine for the last two weeks anyway. I had all the symptoms, (although they started off so minor I didn’t notice them and passed them off as fatigue from skiing etc) and the Dr is pretty certain I had it, albeit my body seemed to have fought it off before it got too serious. I knew it was serious when I had an aversion to booze.

    Today has been the first day that I have managed to breathe easily so I seem to be on the mend. Dr wants to monitor me just in case it comes back. I have been very lucky - it’s taken a couple of weeks to get over it and my symptoms were never that bad (to put it into perspective I have had worse hangovers). This region has been ravaged though nearly 3,500 dead and no signs of it slowing up (in fact the rate is still increasing).

    I genuinely fear for the UK because they have been so blasé about their response and I think it will be worse there. [my emphasis] I am also bloody glad I am not there right now. The Italians are at least disciplined enough to only buy what they need from the shops and rest safely knowing that they can come back and buy their next load of shopping because nobody is hoarding or panic buying - the shelves have remained well stocked throughout.

    Keep safe and stay the **** away from everyone."


    And he's happy to let everyone know this, too:

    "Probably worth linking the fact that I am relatively fit (I am a British Paratrooper after all) and had just spent 8 days training at altitude in the mountains so I think I had a good starting point. Walking up the stairs still felt like I had given a best effort 100m sprint, I was struggling for air and my body felt the oxygen deprivation."
    I've asked him some further general questions about the testing and will update on a new post when he can let me know a little more about how, and what, they did do, and how they'll be monitoring.

    UPDATE, as promised:

    [name]:
    1/ How did they test you for the virus?
    2/ Did they use a CT scan of your lungs to look for ground glass opacities?
    3/ What are they monitoring for now?
    4/ Which part of Italy are you based in at the moment?
    And his response:
    1. So in terms of tests, the hazmat team came to my house and ran some obs / vitals - my temperature was fine, and my blood oxygen saturation level was at 98%. ECG was usual for me (different compared to the norm due to the amount of physical activity I do). Because everything indicated that I was not in the danger zone, they did not waste a swab test on me. I was already in isolation so I was left to self monitor and notify if symptoms got worse.

    2. Hospitals are overwhelmed here, there are thousands in ICU (most major hospitals in London only have about 60 ICU beds - you do the maths - every available space is being used to try and keep people alive) so if there is no strong reason to take you in then they won’t. I did not meet the criteria to waste resources on. (We had 793 fatalities on Saturday). I also agree, I would rather keep an eye on myself in a sterile environment where my conditions are manageable than be an unnecessary burden on a system that is getting thrashed and doing its very best to keep people alive. Note I emphasise ‘keep people alive’ because that is all that can be done. In the case of the 4825 fatalities (as of yesterday morning) they were not able to (90% of which were over 60 and 98% had underlying conditions. That means 10% were younger than 60 and 2% had nothing wrong with them at all so the virus was completely to blame for their deaths, 18 of those fatalities were Drs who contracted the virus whilst treating patients).

    3. I do a twice daily temperature check and message my Dr. I was happy to cease doing so as I have not had a fever for a week, however as a precaution he wants me to continue because there have been cases where light symptoms have gone away and returned much worse.

    4. I live in Varese, just north of Milan, right in Lombardy. This part of Lombardy has been relatively lightly hit in comparison to 15 mins down the road. Bergamo, Brescia and Milan are in a bad way. Our local hospital has been preserved as a dedicated trauma only hospital thus maintaining some capability to deal with normal A&E (life still goes on, babies are still being born etc). All virus-related illnesses are moved to every other hospital / casualty collection centre in the region.
    I am impressed by the way Italy is handling this issue. In the US, I am not sure we will be able to organize our resources (like sending people out to houses and have an MD who is alerted to vs. My MD closed her office 10 days ago. She is a holistic MD now 72 years old). If EVERYONE who can possibly do it stays home VOLUNTARILY at the moment, IMO we will avoid much more chaos later. I am still visualizing all feeling safe, empowered and able to tap into Intelligent Infinity.

    On the ground however, I am so glad I can just stay home.

    Oil of oregano is probably still available online... I think EVERYONE should get some. It is the most valuable remedy for viral and bacterial illness. I feel a single drop swallowed with water is penetrating throughout my chest. It feels like vicks vapo rub from the inside. Started doing this a couple of times per day when I need to go out and it actually seems to be antihistamine too?

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    This is a good video.
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    This is a good video.
    Excellent.

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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1241696164782669824

    (The subtitles are accurate)


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    Dr Klinghardt's latest discoveries on COVID-19




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    Jeez!!!



    Here's the PDF of the page, now archived:

    http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus...oronavirus.pdf

    Interested Bill in your take (besides the Jeez!!!) on this information - I found it both shocking yet one of the best 'proofs' of RV I have yet seen.
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    What actually takes place is that cells are manufacturing viruses, and viruses may also break down waste accumulations within the cell itself. This is not invasion to destroy the cell. This is why cells are not killed in the process, either in the creation and exit of the cell or through ‘infection’ of cells....

    Let us think: If a virus’s goal is to infect and replicate, then what is their end goal and motive to do so? Science has no answer. Science claims they are there to replicate endlessly without cause. What is their end game? On the one hand, science claims they are acting this out with their own reasoning. On the other hand, they cannot reason because they’re not alive. Where does this occur in nature? Nowhere. All living functions of nature have a motive and reason and cause to survive and live. But viruses are not alive and have no functionality. They are not survivalists. They do not know the meaning. They are not alive to do so. So what gives?

    Now, science claims viruses infect other cells through the process of endocytosis. They claim a virus comes into contact with the host cell and introduces viral material into the cell. For a non-living entity, these viruses sure are smart. Quite amazing how they first replicated themselves in nature, and then set out to infect all living animals—and they’re not even alive!…what a feat of nature. But wait, science itself says viruses must have a living host to replicate. Answer? Viruses have no brain function mind you.
    Without viruses, there would be no vertebrate life on earth. This is a diagram from a book I have called "Viruses as Complex Adaptive Systems":
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    Former Health Ministry chief Prof. Yoram Lass says governments can't halt viruses and the lockdown will kill more people from depression than the virus.

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    Jeez!!!



    Here's the PDF of the page, now archived:

    http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus...oronavirus.pdf

    Interested Bill in your take (besides the Jeez!!!) on this information - I found it both shocking yet one of the best 'proofs' of RV I have yet seen.

    I'd be interested too, my take on Dick's (and don't get me started on the look of glee in his eyes when he says he's been rescued and safe now in a third world country) is that as an RVer he saw portions of this pandemic. It doesn't mean the outcome is the same for everywhere. Just my positive take and we as a consciousness can shift this if we act collectively. He got scared and ran to bug out, moved out of Hawaii three weeks ago and now he says he's in a gated community somewhere (probably Panama).

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Last night I was going over Ingo Swann’s book “Your Nostradamus Factor”. Ingo is best known as the “father of Remote Viewing”. I happened to listen to Chapter 21 of this book last night (in Audible it is Chapter 22) where Ingo highlighted the following:

    1346 – 1351 Black Death plague pandemic was predicted by astrologers on March 20, 1345. They said this pandemic would happen when Mars, Jupiter, Saturn (Neptune, which was unknown at the time), would be in conjunction.

    Ingo also listed these related dates:

    545 AD Great Plague during the reign of Emperor Justinian killed ½ of the Middle East population.

    1348 Black Death

    1525 Plague Europe during the early time of Nostradamus

    1881 Cholera Pandemic

    1918 Influenza claimed 25 million lives in the USA and Europe

    1952 Polio epidemic only claimed 23.000 lives because a vaccine was found.

    1970 Cholera in Africa claimed 50% of the population

    1979 Start of the AIDS epidemic

    Ingo claimed that geo-electromagnetic changes would account for these outbreaks. According to Ingo, there appears to be a correlation between planetary alignments with pandemics.

    As I was in bed listening to this audiobook, I thought well…if this is true then there must be a planetary alignment of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn right now! I am not an astrologer or astronomer, so I decided to Google this. The exact alignment of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn is on the 20th of March 2020 (today at the time of my writing)! These alignments started to form around 31st of December 2019!

    The World Health Organisation website states that “A pneumonia of an unknown cause detected in Wuhan, China was first reported to the WHO country office on 31 December 2019! The outbreak was declared a pandemic on 30th of January 2020.”

    If we follow previous sequences and base our prediction on that, it would mean that the 20th of March 2020 is the peak of the outbreak on the timeline and the number of cases should slowly decrease after this date. However, it’s likely to take up to three months after the peak before this pandemic fades out completely. If this is true, we should see that major events after June 2020, will probably still go ahead. Although this does not take into account the economic impact which could have an aftereffect.

    I am still astonished by the accuracy of this information, even though Ingo himself never mentioned a pandemic between January and March 2020 in his book, I guess he taught me, via his book, to look at my own “Nostrafac”. It seems that Ingo’s (and those great astrologers in 1345) observations of the correlation between this specific planetary alignment and the outbreak of a pandemic were spot on!

    That means we can be prepared for the next major pandemic in 2038 when there is another alignment of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn and set a reminder to start increasing the number of masks, hand sanitiser, protective equipment in 2037! I probably need to make a note to myself for 2037 “Start putting more toilet paper on my shopping list and start increasing the financial reserves required during a lockdown.”


    From this link:http://www.sandrahilleard.com/ingo-s...gSCysK0KKM5HEA

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    Im not a David Icke fan and maybe this has been posted before but I was sent it by a friend and its well worth watching -- its in line with my current view point which may be flawed.

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    Excellent information for your own research. Important.

    Michel Chossudovsky | COVID-19 Coronavirus: The Crisis | Guns & Butter

    Source: gunsandbutter.org, globalresearch.ca



    Michel Chossudovsky discusses his new series of research articles on the "pandemic", including, "COVID-19 Coronavirus 'Fake' Pandemic: Timeline and Analysis" and "Coronavirus COVID-19: 'Made in China' or 'Made in America'?, among others.

    On January 30th, 2020, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC) in relation to China's novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) categorized as a viral pneumonia. The virus outbreak was centred in Wuhan, a city in Eastern China with a population in excess of 11 million.

    In the week prior to the January 30th decision, the WHO Emergency Committee expressed divergent views. There were visible divisions within the Committee. On January 30th, a far-reaching decision was taken without the support of expert opinion at a time when the coronavirus outbreak was limited to Mainland China.

    There were 150 confirmed cases outside China when the decision was taken: 6 in the United States, 3 in Canada, 2 in the UK, etc. 150 confirmed cases over a population of 6.4 billion (world population of 7.8 billion minus Chinas 1-4 billion).

    What was the risk of being infected? Virtually zero.

    Aired: March 18, 2020


    Full interview transcript


    This is Guns and Butter.

    The WHO Director-General, who had been in Davos just a few days earlier, determined that the so-called outbreak constituted a Public Health Emergency of International Concern, and, as I mentioned, that decision was taken on the basis of 150 confirmed cases outside China. Now, anybody who takes cognizance of that should not trust anything else that they say because at the beginning is a big lie, and it’s a big lie which is instrumented by very powerful people. It’s the combination of what I call Big Money and Big Pharma.

    I’m Bonnie Faulkner. Today on Guns and Butter, Michel Chossudovsky. Today’s show: COVID-19 Coronavirus: The Crisis.

    Michel Chossudovsky is an Economist and the Founder, Director and Editor of the Center for Research on Globalization, based in Montreal, Quebec.  He is the author of eleven books including Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order, War and Globalization: The Truth Behind September Eleventh, America’s “War on Terrorism” and The Globalization of War: America’s “Long War” against Humanity.

    Today we discuss the historical background and lead-up to the World Health Organization’s January 30th Declaration of a Public Health Emergency of International Concern; Event 201: Simulation of a Coronavirus Pandemic; the World Economic Forum; financial warfare; and the economic and human toll of the declared pandemic.

    Bonnie Faulkner: Michel Chossudovsky, welcome.

    Michel Chossudovsky: Good morning.  Delighted to be on Guns and Butter.

    Bonnie Faulkner:The United States government has now declared the COVID-19 virus a global pandemic. Your article, COVID-19 Coronavirus “Fake” Pandemic: Timeline and Analysis, begins with the January 30th, 2020 World Health Organization declaration of a Public Health Emergency of International Concern in relation to China’s novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV, categorized as a viral pneumonia.  Both the timing and the intent of the WHO’s declaration raise serious questions.  Where is the best place to start and examine what is behind this now global disruption?

    Michel Chossudovsky: First of all, I should mention – and this is where all the lies come in – is that on the 30th of January the global public health emergency was declared on the orders of the Director-General of the WHO. There have been recent statements that this public health emergency has been declared but, in fact, it was declared on the 30th of January, but nobody wants to talk about that for the simple reason that at that time there were only 150 confirmed cases outside of China. In other words, we’re talking about a population of 6.4 billion, (excluding China which is 1.4), out of a world population of 7.8 billion, and there they go ahead and declare a global pandemic. I mean, there’s certain definitions of a pandemic, but 150 cases does not justify it. But in fact, it did, but it was dictated by very powerful economic interests. So we’re starting with a lie.

    But the thing is, we’re starting with a lie on January 30th. And then on January 31st what happens? Immediately the Trump administration calls for a ban on air travel to China. In other words, a declaration to the effect that both Chinese and foreign travelers will not be admitted to the United States. This has the effect of essentially intimidating people, closing down trade and trade transactions. We’re talking about a very important volume of trade and transportation with China, affecting, of course, major airlines and shipping companies. So that happened on the 31st. We’re talking about the timeline. On the 31st of January, Trump already launches a hate campaign against China, and there was no health issue of concern, because 150 cases worldwide outside China is virtually nothing as far as risk is concerned.

    Then we see the evolution of this crisis and what I’m saying, and we must be very clear on that, is that this is not a biological war against China or against of anybody else; it is the use of the coronavirus as a pretext to implement drastic changes which affect economic activity, trade, transportation, which ultimately has an impact on national economies. It sort of pushes national economies into a situation of crisis. At the outset, we were dealing with economic warfare supported by a media campaign, and this was coupled with the deliberate intent by the Trump administration to undermine the Chinese economy.

    But I think we should be clear that the media disinformation campaign was fundamental, because first of all, they never mentioned that it was 150 cases to start with, and they’ve always distorted the figures with regard to the extension of this health threat throughout the world.

    Bonnie Faulkner: What is the WHO Emergency Committee?

    Michel Chossudovsky: The WHO Emergency Committee is a specialized committee made up of specialists – and I should mention that they first met on the 22nd of January and there were divisions within the committee as to whether they had the justification to actually declare a pandemic. And then, when they met on the 30th, the meeting on the 30th took place shortly after the Davos World Economic Forum, which took place from the 21st to the 24th of January. And at that meeting there were important discussions between different partners including the World Economic Forum, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and various entities linked up to Big Pharma.

    Those consultations at the World Economic Forum were essentially instrumental to the decision taken on the 30th. It happened just about a week later. It was essentially the World Economic Forum, the Gates Foundation, a body called CEPI, which is this Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations for the Development of Vaccines – already there were discussions with Big Pharma, GlaxoSmithKline, which is also integrated into this group. There were discussions with the IMF and the World Bank, with the State Department, with US Intelligence. And one suspects that the decisions were taken a few days before, because when they met on January 30thin Geneva there was virtually no discussion. The WHO Director-General, who had been in Davos just a few days earlier, determined that the so-called outbreak constituted a Public Health Emergency of International Concern, and, as I mentioned, that decision was taken on the basis of 150 confirmed cases outside China.

    Now, anybody who takes cognizance of that should not trust anything else that they say because at the beginning is a big lie, and it’s a big lie which is instrumented by very powerful people. It’s the combination of what I call Big Money and Big Pharma. And essentially they initiated this process. They also have a vaccine program and, ironically, the vaccine program was – in a sense also announced at Davos before even having pandemic. It was announced at Davos and discussed, and it was only much later in February that the vaccination campaign was announced by the World Health Organization. In fact, it was February 28th. It was a month later. Dr. Tedros of WHO announces that a massive WHO vaccination campaign has been approved by the World Health Organization. And who is behind that campaign? GlaxoSmithKline in partnership with the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, which is a Gates/World Economic Forum partnership.

    Another important thing is that back in October, on October the 18th, the Gates Foundation together with the World Economic Forum and in partnership with Johns Hopkins School of Public Health – but it was a very specific component of the School of Public Health – it was the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. You can see that Johns Hopkins School of Public Health is already linked to Wall Street. But it was the Center for Health Security. So there you have a partnership between the Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and what do they do on October 16th? This was, of course, way before the public announcement of the coronavirus, which was at the beginning of January when the Chinese authorities discovered it and began testing it. They discovered it on January 1st and then on January 7th they actually came up with lab exams and so on.

    But back on October 18th there was a simulation of a coronavirus pandemic. It was called Event 201. That simulation was integrated by a whole series of people from mainly private financial institutions, corporate execs, foundations, Big Pharma, CIA, there was a representative from the CDC but there were no health officials on behalf of national governments or the WHO. It was essentially a simulation which included quite a number of things, including the collapse of stock markets, the extension of the virus to something like 65 million people and so on and so forth.

    Now, what I am I think suggesting, without necessarily drawing conclusions, is that the organizations involved in the simulation, which was a detailed simulation with videos and so on examining what would happen to financial markets, what would happen to the media, to the independent media and so on – essentially the people involved in the simulation were also involved in the actual management of the pandemic once it went live.

    So the people who were simulating actually went live on January 30th, 2020, which was the day when that pandemic was launched. I should mention that the people who actually were behind the WHO meeting on the sidelines of Davos are the same people who organized and financed the pandemic: the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the World Economic Forum and the Bloomberg School of Public Health.

    So there you are. You simulate and then you go live. I’m not suggesting any kind of conspiratorial relationship, but I’m just saying there was a simulation and a couple of months later the whole thing goes live with the same actors involved in the simulation who are now involved in saving the world from the coronavirus.

    Now, here’s another element, whether it is relevant or not. On October 18th Event 201, Baltimore, Coronavirus Simulation and Emergency Preparedness Task Force at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Health Security, they identified the virus under the acronym nCoV-219. I’ll repeat: nCoV-219. Now, when the actual virus was discovered two months later – it was early January, two and a half months later. To be precise, it was on January the 7th that the Chinese authorities identified a new type of virus. They isolated it on 7 January and the coronavirus was named by the WHO as 2019-nCoV – exactly the same name as that adopted in the World Economic Forum/Gates/Johns Hopkins October 18th, 2019 simulation exercise. So it’s as if they took that name and they stuck it into – it became then, of course, a real pandemic. But bear in mind, at a later date they changed the name. They must have realized that that name was misleading because it was the name of a simulation. But it started up as 2019-nCoV and then after that they adopted the COVID-19. But I think that happened almost a month later, and these were names which were attributed to the virus by the World Health Organization.

    COVID-19 Coronavirus: A Fake Pandemic? Who’s Behind It? Global Economic, Social and Geopolitical Destabilization

    Bonnie Faulkner: It seems to me that they had to change the name because it was too big of a giveaway as to what was going on.

    Michel Chossudovsky: I don’t want to draw any kind of implications. I’m just saying it appears odd that they would choose the same name for the virus as the one which they had for the simulation, and in my view, the nCoV reflects more what it is. N stands for novel and Co, Coronavirus. It was a novel coronavirus.

    Now, I think to avoid any confusions they then adopted a different name to that of the simulation and exercise. Nobody denies that these simulations took place. There’s a video – I’m going to play that video for you, and I think it’s the video from the simulation. They had tons of videos – you can go through it, but let’s say this video is so incredible because it’s the first few minutes. Here it is:

    Woman: Okay. We will now advance three weeks to the fourth and final meeting of the Pandemic Emergency Board, on December 18th, 2019.

    Man: Okay. Thank you for reconvening and let’s get an update from Dr. Rivers.

    Dr. Rivers: In the last three weeks, case numbers have continued to grow exponentially. We now have an estimated 4.2 million cases, and 240,000 deaths. Almost every country is now reportinßg cases, and those who aren’t may simply not have the resources to conduct surveillance. We don’t see any change in the rate of rapid spread, and models estimate that we could have more than 12 million cases and close to a million deaths by mid-January. We’re not sure how big this could get, but there’s no end in sight. Financial markets are universally down by 15% or more on the year. Fear of a catastrophic pandemic and uncertainty about the capacity for governments to respond –

    When the organizers of the simulation were confronted, particularly at the height of the financial crash, end of February, they said, “Well, we’re not predicting anything. We’re not predicting what happened. We’re just simulating.” But it just so happens that in fact it was practically word by word, that they simulated an initial collapse of financial markets of “15% or more.” Now, I checked the financial press in late February. In late February I checked the financial press and Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal, and that was exactly what happened, and they used the same words, 15% or more, was the collapse of money markets at that time. Now, since then, the situation has evolved.

    But the thing is that this simulation was not taken by an independent body of scientists and researchers and economists. No, it wasn’t. It was taken by Big Money and Big Pharma. Big Money and Big Pharma were simulating. And then, meanwhile and before the pandemic was actually declared on January 30th– and there was no basis for declaring that pandemic – there were only 150 cases outside of China. About, what, six cases in the US, three in Canada, two in the UK.  Well, we have the complete list; it’s provided by the World Health Organization. But before that historic venue, there was already a vaccination program, which was ongoing by different pharmaceutical companies.

    Bonnie Faulkner: Michel, I’d like to go over some of this in greater detail. You write that, “The World Health Organization did not act to reassure and inform world public opinion. Quite the opposite. A fear pandemic rather than a genuine Public Health Emergency of International Concern was launched.” Would you describe this development as a media disinformation campaign?

    Michel Chossudovsky: Absolutely. And I don’t think that the World Health Organization spearheaded the media disinformation campaign. The media disinformation campaign was already embedded with the organizations who were behind this initiative, in other words, the foundations, the World Economic Forum and so on. The media campaign, if it had been real news, first of all they should have said the decision of the WHO borders on ridicule; it’s in violation of its mandate; you don’t declare a pandemic for 150 people. Punto. Six in America, two in Canada, three in the United Kingdom and so on. I think that should have been put forth, that this historic January 30thdecision was a big lie. And it was not only a big lie; it was the launchpad of a process of ultimately economic warfare.

    I should clarify, because there’s a lot of confusion. This is not biological warfare, because the coronavirus is not a dangerous virus. It has certain similarities with other viruses. It triggers pneumonia, then there’s a recovery process. In fact, if we look at recent developments, the pandemic in China is more or less resolved. They’ve announced that more than 80% of confirmed cases have been resolved. Now, the media will not discuss that because once they say, “Oh, people are recovering, they’re getting well” and so on, that sort of undermines the panic. What they want to do is trigger panic, and that’s what people are doing right now. It’s fear and intimidation, it’s panic. People feel threatened, and the authorities are taking actions, which are not protecting people’s health but ultimately doing exactly the opposite.

    Now, I’m not saying that coronavirus is not a health concern. It really is. But what is more of a concern are all the millions of people who lost their jobs as a result of the coronavirus, not to mention those who lost their lifelong savings on the stock exchange. Think of all the smaller investors who put their money with their broker and so on, and what happens? They lose everything when the market collapses. Now, that, of course, is a concern, and that has also health implications. Some people commit suicide when they lose their savings. But that simply is considered as part of a market mechanism.

    It’s not part of a market mechanism. It is part of a process of manipulation through sophisticated speculative instruments such as short selling. We know that. And if you have foreknowledge that President Trump is going to implement a ban on trans-Atlantic travel to the European Union, immediately those who have foreknowledge can speculate on the collapse of the airline stocks. It’s very easy. They place a bet and if it goes down, they make money, and they know it’s going to go down. So that is where, of course, these powerful corporate interests and financiers and hedge funds are making a tremendous amount of money.

    And what we are witnessing now is a transfer of money wealth, a concentration of money wealth, which I think is unprecedented. It’s perhaps one of the largest transfers of money wealth in modern history. In other words, it’s characterized by bankruptcies of small and medium-sized firms, mounting debt, mounting personal debts, corporate debts, the takeover of competing companies. And in a sense, it’s characterized by conflict within the financial establishment.

    It’s not only a war against China. At the beginning it appeared to be an economic war against China, which led to the closing down of trade and shipping and so on, where factories had to close down and so on, not to mention the tourist industry. But it is more than that, because it also affects the internal balance of power within the financial establishment. The fact that the airlines are the victims of this is significant, because the airlines – their stock may collapse and then, of course, they’ll be bought up, and that means that there’s been a redistribution not only of money wealth but also of real wealth. These are assets.

    Without pointing to the fact that the existence of the coronavirus, which generates uncertainty, panic, is ultimately the ideal environment for people who want to speculate and make money at the expense of those who have savings, at the expense of small businesses and at the expense of perhaps competing corporations. That’s the situation we’re in, and I don’t recall any period in our recent history that is comparable to what we’re living now, where entire economies are in a standstill – I think of Western Europe, Italy, where people are ordered to stay at home and so on, and this ultimately has been achieved under the pretext – the pretext – of a virus, of a coronavirus. They said, “We must protect our population so let’s close down the economy.” Well, you don’t protect your population by closing down an economy. You can take certain public health actions which are selective and well thought out, but that’s not what’s happening.

    Bonnie Faulkner: Getting back to the virus, you write, “Remember the unusual circumstances surrounding the April 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic.” What were these unusual circumstances? Was the data manipulated?

    Michel Chossudovsky: This is not the first time that the WHO has declared a fake pandemic. I am talking about the decision taken on the 30th of January where we only had 150 people outside of China who were confirmed cases.

    In 2009, April, there was another case, which was called the H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic. The same atmosphere of fear and intimidation prevailed. The process was somewhat different but the statements made by the WHO Director-General at the time were far-reaching, because Margaret Chan, WHO Director-General in 2009, stated with authority that as many – I’m quoting, from the World Health Organization – “as many as two billion people could become infected over the next two years, nearly one-third of the world population.”

    Now, what was Margaret Chan involved in, in making this statement? It was a multi-billion-dollar bonanza for Big Pharma, which was instructed by the WHO Director-General Margaret Chan to implement a massive vaccination program. She further states later on the following and, again, I’m quoting, “Vaccine makers could produce 4.9 billion pandemic flu shots per year in the best-case scenario.” Can you imagine 4.9 billion pandemic flu shots per year in the best-case scenario? In other words, this was a green light to the vaccine producers to produce billions of flu shots for the H1N1 and it was also a green light to national governments to actually purchase these billions of flu shots from the pharmaceutical companies.

    Now, it turns out that this campaign in 2009, which was launched by the WHO, relied on fake news, fake statistics and lies at the highest levels of government. When it was debated under the Obama administration, Obama actually said, “Swine Flu could strike up to 40% of Americans over the next two years and as many as several hundred thousand could die if a vaccine campaign and other measures aren’t successful.” There were several statements – Associated Press: “The US expects to have 160 million doses of Swine Flu vaccine available sometime in October.” That statement was made in July of 2009. Business Week: “Wealthier countries such as the US and Britain will pay just under $10 per dose for the H1N1 flu; developing countries will pay a lower price.” And so on. This was a multi-billion-dollar fraud in favor of Big Pharma and, in fact, there was no pandemic. Millions of doses of Swine Flu vaccine had been ordered by national governments. Millions of vaccine doses were subsequently destroyed. There was a problem of collecting the data as to whether it was the seasonal flu Influenza Virus B, or whether it was the Swine Flu vaccine. The data was manipulated and there was ultimately no investigation into who was behind this multi-million-dollar fraud.

    But I think we have to acknowledge, because things sometimes come much later, that in the wake of that fake pandemic there was a meeting of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, which is a human rights watchdog, and they questioned the motivations of the WHO. They actually made the statement that the World Health Organization was involved in conflict of interest and that the pandemic was fake. That investigation is on record with the European Parliament. There we have an example of what happened. If there were no economic and social implications as exist today, if there were no actions to repeal air travel and so on but, let’s say from the point of view of the vaccination program – that vaccination program was launched and ultimately it was totally dysfunctional and the pharmaceutical companies cashed in to large amounts of money, which were largely funded by the taxpayers’ expenses because it was the budget of the Ministries of Health.

    And then, of course, the H1N1 mutated. So the vaccines were totally useless. It’s very similar to a seasonal flu pandemic; there’s a mutation of the virus. I recall in Canada, the Ministry of Health ordered millions of doses of the vaccine and then they acknowledged, they said, well, we can’t use them because you know the H1N1 virus has mutated. So what they did is they said we’re going to send that in the form of aid to developing countries, which was in effect also a fraud because the vaccine couldn’t be used from a health point of view, but then they decided simply to send it off to some country in Latin America or Sub-Saharan Africa, knowing that the virus in itself had mutated and that these vaccines were totally useless.

    So there we have a situation where the Director-General of the WHO gives the green light to Big Pharma, making erroneous statements to the effect that billions of people across the world will be affected, as many as two billion, she said, and we must act, and Big Pharma comes to the rescue and in effect the vaccine makers made a bundle of money at the expense of the public purse.

    Bonnie Faulkner: Now, in the current situation, coming up to 2020 – you’ve been talking about 2009 – you write that, “The campaign to develop vaccines was initiated prior to the decision of the WHO to launch a global public health emergency.” Is that right?

    Michel Chossudovsky: That’s correct. There are several things. One, there was a decision taken at Davos where they actually stated that a vaccine campaign was necessary, and that decision precedes the pandemic by about a week. But there are indications that, in fact, for them to have made that statement the companies involved were already working on the vaccine. Now, I can’t say exactly when they started, but certainly well before the World Economic Forum and certainly well before the launching of the pandemic. Mind you, the number of cases were so small in late January of 2020 – it was 150 cases outside China; those are WHO statistics. Now, you’re not going to initiate a vaccine campaign internationally for 150 people, but I think that there must have been some kind of foreknowledge that eventually the pandemic would move forward with a fear campaign, the media disinformation and then ultimately the recipients would be the vaccine producers, Big Pharma. And they already had a working relationship with the foundations. They were involved in the consultations in Davos. They were also directly or indirectly involved in the simulation scenario back in October. So maybe the simulation back in October is what gave the green light to Big Pharma. I think that’s certainly feasible because they were already talking about vaccinations in the simulation. So the simulation was talking about the need to develop vaccines for their hypothetical nCoV virus, as it was called at the time, and there was also evidence that before the pandemic was actually officially launched on 30th of January that the vaccination program had been announced at Davos.

    Now, there’s another important announcement that was made, but it came a month later. That was by the WHO saying – I think it was in mid- to late-February when the WHO confirmed categorically that there was the need for a vaccination campaign. But that statement was made after the industry took the decision to develop the vaccines. And there are quite a number of companies involved.

    Bonnie Faulkner: What is CEPI? What does that stand for? Is this a vaccine organization?

    Michel Chossudovsky: Yes. The CEPI is a very important body and also actor in this whole process. It is the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, and it is essentially part of the World Economic Forum/Gates partnership. They made an announcement quite early in the game to the effect that they would be funding several programs to develop vaccines against the so-called coronavirus. At that time it was called nCoV-2019. The CEPI works in consultation with the Gates Foundation and the WEF, and it also is tied into the pharmaceutical industry. Their major partner is GlaxoSmithKline.

    Bonnie Faulkner: Now, at the same time as this simulation Event 201 in Baltimore on October 18th, from October 18th to the 27th of October 2019, the CISM Military World Games were taking place in Wuhan, China. What are Military World Games, and who were the participants?

    Michel Chossudovsky: These games, it’s a sport event, which takes place I guess once a year in different countries. There are more than 100 countries which participate, and they send in members of the armed forces, but essentially for sport events. Some people call it the Military Olympics.

    Now, what the Chinese authorities have raised, and this relates in a very direct way to the fact that the virus may not have originated in China but may have originated in a foreign country, including the United States, is that there were 200 American military personnel participating in this 10-day event. Of course, they’re there and they visit the city and they go around, etc., etc. It has been intimated that the virus could have been either accidentally or deliberately dropped somewhere in the seafood market in Wuhan.

    Now, we have absolutely no proof, but there are scientific assessments of the virus, and it’s a bit complex to explain, to the effect that what they call patient zero which – there’s patient zero and patient one – the thing is, where is that patient zero? Is the patient zero in the United States? In other words, assuming that it comes either from an animal or from a lab, etc., and then it’s transported to China.

    Also, interestingly, the Chinese as well as Taiwanese and Japanese virologists have examined – looking at different strains of the virus in different locations – they have come to the conclusion that the virus was not made in China. At this very moment there’s a big debate in China on whether the virus is made in China or made in America. Increasingly, the scientific evidence points to the latter.

    What is significant is that in recent developments we even have evidence that emanates – at least statements which emanate from the Director-General of the CDC – in other words, I’m talking about Robert Redfield, who made a statement just this week to the US Congress. It was during hearings of the so-called House Oversight Committee. He makes statements to the effect that some of the diagnoses of the common flu in the United States, the seasonal flu, Virus B, could have been coronavirus. This was in a committee context, and he answered the questions in a somewhat candid way and he said, “Yes, in some cases diagnosed as seasonal flu could have been coronavirus.”

    Bonnie, there are two pieces of audio which I think you should broadcast. I’ll broadcast the first one now and you’ll hear it. That is the one by Redfield. It’s 30 seconds.

    Redfield: University of Washington has developed their own tests –

    Congressman: Were those test kits available last Friday?

    Redfield: Yes, sir.

    Congressman: Thank you. And without test kits, is it possible that those who had been susceptible to influenza might have been mischaracterized as to what they actually had, it’s quite possible they actually had COVID-19?

    Redfield: The standard practice is the first thing you do is tests for influenza. So if they had influenza they would be positive for –

    Congressman: But only if they were tested. So if they weren’t tested, we don’t know what they had.

    Redfield: Correct.

    Congressman: Okay. And if somebody dies from influenza, are we doing post-mortem testing to see if it was influenza or it was COVID-19?

    Redfield: There is a surveillance system to test for pneumonia that the CDC has. It’s not in every city, every state, every hospital.

    Congressman: So we could have people in the United States dying for what appear to be influenza when in fact it could be the coronavirus or COVID-19.

    Redfield: Some cases have been actually diagnosed that way in the United States today.

    Congressman: Thank you.

    Now, that statement corroborates the studies conducted in China and Japan and Taiwan, but it also begs the question, when? Was it in October? Was it in November? Was it in December? In other words, Redfield’s statement doesn’t say when those influenza tests were conducted. Well, they’re conducted on a routine basis. Presumably if it’s seasonal it starts in November or October and it extends right through the winter.

    But what happened is that this statement in effect provides legitimacy to studies conducted by Japanese, Chinese and Taiwan virologists to the effect that it is possible that the virus did not originate in the seafood market in Wuhan; it actually could have originated in the United States of America. And the Taiwan virologist stated, because he was following what was going on, that there were more than 200 pneumonia type cases which resulted in death in the United States, and it was triggered by the patient’s inability to breathe. Then he said he was in touch with US health authorities and he begged the question whether those deaths could have been the result of the coronavirus. He also said that the virus outbreak may have begun at an earlier period than what is assumed, suggesting that it could even go back to September. And I presume it goes back to September because that’s when the flu virus actually starts to develop.

    But I think what’s important is that – one of our own authors, Larry Romanoff, who is based in Shanghai, has done extensive research on this issue and if we patch together the statements of Robert Redfield, the Japanese, Taiwanese and Chinese studies, there is a good likelihood that the virus did not come from China but it could well have originated in the United States. It is a talking point in China at this very moment because the spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs – and the Chinese don’t actually improvise in the same way as Americans their foreign policy stance – but when they’re commenting on the CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield they say, well, you know, this kind of information has to be explained. If the US reported 34 million cases of influenza that’s – I think he’s exaggerating but that’s what he says – I’m talking about the representative from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I think it’s more like 15 million – but in any event, he then concludes and says, please tell us how many are related to COVID-19. That is a tweet – the Chinese also adopted tweets.

    What the Director Robert Redfield has admitted is that seemingly some people who have died from influenza could have been tested positive for the coronavirus. So this has opened up Pandora’s Box, so to speak, because the consensus in China is that the virus was not made in China; it was made in America.

    It remains to be fully assessed and so on, but it changes the rhetoric. It also changes China’s geopolitical position. China is now at the stage where the pandemic is almost over. I think in a matter of a couple of weeks they’re going to go back to normal life throughout the country, and then they also are now going to acknowledge that the possibility is that this virus did not originate in China.

    Bonnie Faulkner: Michel Chossudovsky, thank you so much.

    Michel Chossudovsky: Delighted to be on the program. This is a very important topic. Best wishes.
    *
    I’ve been speaking with Michel Chossudovsky. Today’s show has been COVID-19 Coronavirus: The Crisis. Michel Chossudovsky is an economist and the Founder, Director and Editor of the Center for Research on Globalization, based in Montreal, Quebec.  The Global Research website, globalresearch.ca, publishes news articles, commentary, background research and analysis. Since posting a series of very credible research articles on the novel coronavirus, GlobalResearch’s readership has exploded, and they have added many tens of thousands of new readers in China.

    Guns and Butter is produced by Bonnie Faulkner, Yarrow Mahko and Tony Rango. Visit us at gunsandbutter.org to listen to past programs, comment on shows, or join our email list to receive our newsletter that includes recent shows and updates. Email us at faulkner@gunsandbutter.org. Follow us on Twitter at gandbradio.
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    TRACKING DOWN THE SOURCE FOR CR19.

    Summary of some recent research.

    Exploring possible connections and timings for the outbreak. The CR19 multiple strains show USA as the source. However, other bio weapons facilities outside the USA, individuals with connections to Tiblisi, Georgia bio weapons facilitiy with same individuals connecting at the Wuhan Military World Games 10th October 2019. They may have contracted the virus or they already had it but brought it to China either by accident or an intentional accident that went wrong. I don't like speculating as more facts are needed. However, this a route to explore for other research may finally find the source and what the intentions or otherwise were at the time.

    Taiwan Virologist Suggests the Coronavirus Originated in the US.

    Taiwan ran a TV news program on February,27, (click here to access video (Chinese), that presented diagrams and flow charts suggesting the coronavirus originated in the US.

    https://m.weibo.cn/status/4477008216030027#&video

    Below is a rough translation, summary and analysis of selected content of that newscast. 50 secs in shows an important map of the world itemising colour bars for the CR19 strains. Most of the CR19 strains in south east Asia countries have 1 strain.

    Only the USA has 5 strains.

    This means you would have to have a source with more strains to fan out to mutate to 1 to 3.

    I showed a previous bio weapons centre in Tibisi, Georgia which is a major centre for a wide range of bio weapons. Interesting timing with the close down of Fort Detrick major bio-weapons facility in September 2019.

    Interestingly enough, Corona Virus Patient Zero: Maatje Benassi, Cyclist and Armed Diplomatic Driver for Supreme NATO 4-Star General James Jones, ShadowNet, married to Matt Benassi, cyclist SPAWAR. Both these individual got the virus back in October at the Wuhan Games (Wuhan World Military Games detailed in a previous posting). Matt Benassi died in Januray 2020 in the USA.

    N.B. Shadownet is the software that was used for the Democratic election voting system.

    The man in the video is a top virologist and pharmacologist who performed a long and detailed search for the source of the virus. He spends the first part of the video explaining the various haplotypes (varieties, if you will), and explains how they are related to each other, how one must have come before another, and how one type derived from another. He explains this is merely elementary science and nothing to do with geopolitical issues, describing how, just as with numbers in order, 3 must always follow 2.
    One of his main points is that the type infecting Taiwan exists only in Australia and the US and, since Taiwan was not infected by Australians, the infection in Taiwan could have come only from the US.

    The basic logic is that the geographical location with the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing. He demonstrated that only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, England, Belgium and Germany), constituting a thesis that the haplotypes in other nations may have originated in the US.

    Korea and Taiwan have a different haplotype of the virus than China, perhaps more infective but much less deadly, which would account for a death rate only 1/3 that of China.
    Neither Iran nor Italy were included in the above tests, but both countries have now deciphered the locally prevalent genome and have declared them of different varieties from those in China, which means they did not originate in China but were of necessity introduced from another source. It is worth noting that the variety in Italy has approximately the same fatality rate as that of China, three times as great as other nations, while the haplotype in Iran appears to be the deadliest with a fatality rate of between 10% and 25%.
    The Taiwanese doctor then stated the virus outbreak began earlier than assumed, saying, “We must look to September of 2019”.

    He stated the case in September of 2019 where some Japanese travelled to Hawaii and returned home infected, people who had never been to China. This was two months prior to the infections in China and just after the CDC suddenly and totally shut down the Fort Detrick bio-weapons lab claiming the facilities were insufficient to prevent loss of pathogens.

    He said he personally investigated those cases very carefully (as did the Japanese virologists who came to the same conclusion).. This might indicate the coronavirus had already spread in the US but where the symptoms were being officially attributed to other diseases, and thus possibly masked.

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    Here's what's happening in my state of Oregon.

    Brown issues 'stay at home' order, effective immediately

    Quote SALEM, Ore. – In an executive order issued Monday, Governor Kate Brown ordered Oregonians to stay at home or face the penalty of a misdemeanor.

    The order is not a lockdown but encourages every Oregonian to stay home unless you have to go to work, get groceries, or walk the dog. Brown said to continue to practice aggressive social distancing when you are out and about.

    Those who do comply with the order could face a misdemeanor charge.

    On Friday, Brown joined Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler and other leaders for a press conference and hinted an order was forthcoming. At the time, the governor urged residents to “Stay Home and Stay Healthy.”

    Lane County, Eugene, Springfield and other municipalities across Oregon later authored letters encouraging the governor to issue a "stay at home" order over the weekend. Leaders argued any such order should be done at a statewide level to avoid a “checkerboard implementation” of policy.

    The order also closes a number of businesses previously unaffected by prior executive orders, including barber shops and tattoo parlors.

    Below are details of the order:

    All non-essential social and recreational gatherings of individuals are prohibited immediately, regardless of size, if a distance of at least six feet between individuals cannot be maintained. Gatherings of members of the same residential household are permitted.
    It closes and prohibits shopping at specific categories of retail businesses, for which close personal contact is difficult to avoid, such as arcades, barber shops, hair salons, gyms and fitness studios, skating rinks, theaters, and yoga studios.
    It requires businesses not closed by the order to implement social distancing policies in order to remain open, and requires workplaces to implement teleworking and work-at-home options when possible.
    It directs Oregonians to stay home whenever possible, while permitting activities outside the home when social distance is maintained.
    It closes playgrounds, sports courts, and skate parks, among other types of outdoor recreation facilities. Those that remain open are required to strictly adhere to social distancing guidelines.
    It outlines new guidelines for child care facilities, setting limits and rules on amounts of children allowed in care, and outlining that child care groups may not change participants.
    Failure to comply with the order will be considered an immediate danger to public health and subject to a Class C misdemeanor
    Link: https://www.kezi.com/content/news/Br...569024401.html
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    is the cue for the cashless society they've always wanted....?

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/who-w...111019361.html

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    TRACKING DOWN THE SOURCE FOR CR19.

    Summary of some recent research.

    Exploring possible connections and timings for the outbreak. The CR19 multiple strains show USA as the source. However, other bio weapons facilities outside the USA, individuals with connections to Tiblisi, Georgia bio weapons facilitiy with same individuals connecting at the Wuhan Military World Games 10th October 2019. They may have contracted the virus or they already had it but brought it to China either by accident or an intentional accident that went wrong. I don't like speculating as more facts are needed. However, this a route to explore for other research may finally find the source and what the intentions or otherwise were at the time.

    Taiwan Virologist Suggests the Coronavirus Originated in the US.

    Taiwan ran a TV news program on February,27, (click here to access video (Chinese), that presented diagrams and flow charts suggesting the coronavirus originated in the US.

    https://m.weibo.cn/status/4477008216030027#&video

    Below is a rough translation, summary and analysis of selected content of that newscast. 50 secs in shows an important map of the world itemising colour bars for the CR19 strains. Most of the CR19 strains in south east Asia countries have 1 strain.

    Only the USA has 5 strains.

    This means you would have to have a source with more strains to fan out to mutate to 1 to 3.

    I showed a previous bio weapons centre in Tibisi, Georgia which is a major centre for a wide range of bio weapons. Interesting timing with the close down of Fort Detrick major bio-weapons facility in September 2019.

    Interestingly enough, Corona Virus Patient Zero: Maatje Benassi, Cyclist and Armed Diplomatic Driver for Supreme NATO 4-Star General James Jones, ShadowNet, married to Matt Benassi, cyclist SPAWAR. Both these individual got the virus back in October at the Wuhan Games (Wuhan World Military Games detailed in a previous posting). Matt Benassi died in Januray 2020 in the USA.

    N.B. Shadownet is the software that was used for the Democratic election voting system.

    The man in the video is a top virologist and pharmacologist who performed a long and detailed search for the source of the virus. He spends the first part of the video explaining the various haplotypes (varieties, if you will), and explains how they are related to each other, how one must have come before another, and how one type derived from another. He explains this is merely elementary science and nothing to do with geopolitical issues, describing how, just as with numbers in order, 3 must always follow 2.
    One of his main points is that the type infecting Taiwan exists only in Australia and the US and, since Taiwan was not infected by Australians, the infection in Taiwan could have come only from the US.

    The basic logic is that the geographical location with the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing. He demonstrated that only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, England, Belgium and Germany), constituting a thesis that the haplotypes in other nations may have originated in the US.

    Korea and Taiwan have a different haplotype of the virus than China, perhaps more infective but much less deadly, which would account for a death rate only 1/3 that of China.
    Neither Iran nor Italy were included in the above tests, but both countries have now deciphered the locally prevalent genome and have declared them of different varieties from those in China, which means they did not originate in China but were of necessity introduced from another source. It is worth noting that the variety in Italy has approximately the same fatality rate as that of China, three times as great as other nations, while the haplotype in Iran appears to be the deadliest with a fatality rate of between 10% and 25%.
    The Taiwanese doctor then stated the virus outbreak began earlier than assumed, saying, “We must look to September of 2019”.

    He stated the case in September of 2019 where some Japanese travelled to Hawaii and returned home infected, people who had never been to China. This was two months prior to the infections in China and just after the CDC suddenly and totally shut down the Fort Detrick bio-weapons lab claiming the facilities were insufficient to prevent loss of pathogens.

    He said he personally investigated those cases very carefully (as did the Japanese virologists who came to the same conclusion).. This might indicate the coronavirus had already spread in the US but where the symptoms were being officially attributed to other diseases, and thus possibly masked.
    Thank you!! (Quoting the whole post here. It's well worth reading.) Potentially very important.


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