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    Lightbulb High Strangeness The Co-Creation Of The Abduction Phenomenon by Carol Rainey

    Seems Budd Hopkins ex-wife has a few things to say about the reality of Alien Abductions.

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...=40&Itemid=216

    There is a link to the PDF version at the bottom of the preview

    Wild times eh

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    Thanks Scott for this lead. I've just read the whole of Carol Rainey's account here and it is a model of objective journalism which should be compulsory reading for anyone interested in the way abductees are managed by the likes of Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs (who incidentally turn out to be the closest of friends). They come across as unqualified, unprofessional practitioners who put their own self-interests ahead of their clients. Anyone who reads books such as The Threat (by David Jacobs) should bear this in mind.

    (added) The link to the PDF version of this article produced a corrupted PDF in download, but I was able to get a proper file by going to the paratopia mag website and working from there. Here's the link that worked. It's worth reading as it contains a second article, Tainted, Toxic & Taboo: A scientist's assessment of alien abduction research.

    From the current home page of paratopia.net (formerly paratopia.org)

    Quote Priests of High Strangeness: Co-Creation Of “The Alien Abduction Phenomenon” is a truthful expose of Budd Hopkins’ turning a blind eye to both hoaxers and delusional people claiming to be alien abductees. We see so much poor judgment on display, contrary to what he has told the public over the years, that it’s hard not to conclude that alien abduction research as we know it must stop. Given what we know about the wrongful use of hypnosis and having seen the work of Budd’s longtime friend and colleague David Jacobs discredited last year, dare we say it’s over?

    Ms. Rainey has not only provided an amazing cover story for Paratopia Quarterly at great personal expense, but probably the most important ufological article you will read all year. It’s January.

    Look, it’s time for something new. And that’s not just increasingly obvious to the ufological community but to interested outsiders like Dr. Tyler Kokjohn, a noted scientist and Professor of Microbiology at Arizona College of Osteopathic Medicine. So moved was he by Carol’s article that he has generously stepped forward to show us what real scientific standards and practices look like when it comes to human subjects. This is the theme of his article, Tainted, Toxic, and Taboo: A Scientist’s Assessment of Alien Abduction Research.

    It is worth stressing the amount of bravery we are seeing on display here with Dr. Kokjohn stepping into the fray to… well… help us. And most especially from Carol Rainey. Carol was married to Budd for 10 years. They share many of the same friends. Losing them is only one of the risks for her to speak out and it’s minor in comparison to some of the others. But when she investigated the David Jacobs scandal for herself, she felt like she had to say something. Felt like she had to speak her truth no matter the cost.
    Interestingly, there is a reply on the Imaginative Worlds forum by apparently the same Emma Woods as mentioned by Carol Rainey, denying that she was a CIA asset sent to discredit David Jacobs, also refuting claims that she is an alias for Arizona Wilder who was allegedly responsible for breaking up David Icke's marriage.

    Emma Woods' website is here, and I must say she comes across as straightforward and truthful.

    What do other PA members think of this whole business?
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    Default Re: High Strangeness The Co-Creation Of The Abduction Phenomenon by Carol Rainey

    I found that most informative, Thank you.
    Unfortunately it only futher confirms some of my worst fears with these abduction researchers.
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    Default Re: High Strangeness The Co-Creation Of The Abduction Phenomenon by Carol Rainey

    Already called Carol, I will have more information in a week or so.
    If nothing else its very interesting and tends to confirm what some other long term UFO investigators have thought for a long time.

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    Default Re: High Strangeness The Co-Creation Of The Abduction Phenomenon by Carol Rainey

    Hail all

    Just a quick update on this, we managed to Interview Carol Rainey along with Dr Tyler Kokjohn, it was a very interesting show as they both had lots to say about abduction research and the methods used in that field to garner information.
    Link provided to the audio here: Interview with Carol Rainey & Dr Tyler Kokjohn

    The saga continues, Carol has had some backlash from the UFO Community which you can read about on the UFO UpDates list here: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/ , Carol posts there as well so any gilted ex-wife comments get quickly squashed by her logical retorts.

    Take care
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