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    Relevant to this thread - too bad "members only"

    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    What we're watching is class war disguised as race war (1:47)

    Tucker Carlson: These riots shouldn't really surprise you.
    CAN YOUR KIDS EARN ENOUGH PERKS, FORM STABLE FAMILIES OF THEIR OWN AND LIVE IN DIGNITY? EVERYTHING FLOWS FROM THAT. THAT’S WHAT MOST AMERICANS OF ALL COLOR WORRY ABOUT MOST.

    SO OF COURSE IT IS THE ONE THING THE LEADERS HATE TO TALK ABOUT. THAT IS NOT ACCIDENTAL. IT IS BY DESIGN. WHAT YOU ARE WATCHING IS DISGUISED AS RACE WAR. THE POPULATION AT ONE ANOTHER’S THROATS, ANGRY, SUSPICIOUS, TRIBAL AND MAYBE THEY’LL NEVER FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE ARE STEALING.

    THE BIGGEST CHANGE TO AMERICAN SOCIETY OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS HAS BEEN THE DEATH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS. THIS USED TO BE THE MIDDLE CLASS COUNTRY. IT IS NOT ANYMORE. MOST OF THE OUR POPULATION HAS BECOME POORER IN REAL TERMS. WHILE A SHRINKING NUMBER OF PEOPLE CONTROLLING AN EVER EXPANDING PERCENTAGE OF THE WEALTH. THAT MEANS THAT FEWER AMERICANS OVERALL HAVE A MEANINGFUL STAKE IN SOCIETY AND MORE ARE DEPENDENT. THAT MAKES THE COUNTRY MUCH MORE VOLATILE THAN IT ONCE WAS. THESE RIOTS REALLY SHOULDN’T SURPRISE YOU.
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    Ingraham: How to heal (8 min)
    The honest feeling of sadness and righteous anger over George Floyd's death that could be channeled into a positive dialogue is being overshadowed by destruction and chaos.

    (partial transcript)

    WHATEVER YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS, WHATEVER YOUR RACE OR ETHNIC BACKGROUND, WHEREVER YOU LIVE, THESE PAST THREE MONTHS HAVE TESTED YOU IN SOME WAY. THE CORONAVIRUS DEATHS. LOCKDOWNS, MASSIVE JOB LOSSES, EDUCATION DISRUPTION, LONELINESS, DEPRESSION, AND THEN, JUST WHEN WE WERE TURNING THE CORNER, PROTESTS, UNREST, VIOLENCE. THE DEATH OF AN UNARMED BLACK MAN. IT ALL SPILLED OUT COAST-TO-COAST AFTER THAT SENSELESS KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD.

    NOW, MANY OF YOU WONDER IF IT’S EVEN FIXABLE AT THIS POINT. I’VE BEEN HEARING FROM YOU. AND GIVEN HOW MUCH ANGER FLASHES ON THE SCREEN EVERY DAY AND EVERY NIGHT AND SO MANY USING A TRAGIC DEATH AS PERMISSION TO LOOT AND EVEN ASSAULT INNOCENT BUSINESS OWNERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE HONEST FEELING OF -- ITS SADNESS AND RIGHTEOUS ANGER OVER FLOYD’S DEATH THAT COULD BE CHANNELED INTO POSITIVE DIALOGUE, IT’S JUST OVERSHADOWED BY DESTRUCTION AND CHAOS.

    ANTIFA AND THEIR ALLIES, THEY’RE ON A MISSION. AND IT AIN’T ABOUT JUSTICE. IT’S NOT ABOUT GEORGE FLOYD. THEY WANT TO ABOLISH OUR RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND THEY WANT TO REWRITE OUR HISTORY. THEY WANT US TO HATE OUR COUNTRY LIKE THEY HATE OUR COUNTRY.

    THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE REST OF US THOUGH REQUIRES THAT WE GET BACK TO BASICS. WE DON’T NEED A NEW NORMAL. WE JUST NEED NORMAL. BECAUSE NORMAL AMERICANS WANT A FAIR AND JUST SOCIETY WHERE THE RULE OF LAW APPLIES EQUALLY TO ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF RACE.

    NORMAL AMERICANS ARE DISGUSTED BY THE KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD. NORMAL AMERICANS THINK THE CURRENT SITUATION IS SO OUT OF CONTROL THAT THE U.S. MILITARY NEEDS TO BE CALLED IN TO BRING ORDER TO THE STREETS.

    CHECK OUT THIS NEW MORNING POLE SHOWING 58% SUPPORT CALLING IN THE TROOPS TO AID STATE AND LOCAL POLICE. INCLUDING NEARLY HALF OF THE DEMOCRATS. THE SAME PARTY THAT’S BEEN PROMISING AFRICAN-AMERICANS BETTER LIVES FOR DECADES.

    OUR FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT WAS PROPELLED INTO OFFICE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE WITH THE MAJORITY OF WHITE SUPPORT. YET WHEN IT COMES TO DELIVERING ACTUAL RESULTS, INCLUDING FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS, DESPITE WHAT YOU HEAR IN THE MEDIA, DESPITE EVERYTHING YOU HEARD JUST TODAY IN THE MEDIA, DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE BETTER THAN ANYONE.

    BEFORE THE CORONAVIRUS, MOST JOBS CREATED WENT TO WOMEN AND MINORITIES. 7 MILLION. IN TOTAL, MOST OF THOSE WOMEN AND MINORITIES. BLACK AMERICANS SAW THEIR LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS EVER. INCREASED HOME OWNERSHIP, SCHOOL CHOICE, CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. CREATION OF OPPORTUNITIES ZONES.

    I UNDERSTAND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, TRUMP MAY BE ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES. THEY SOMETIME DON’T LIKE HIS TONE OR HIS TWEETS OR HIS BRAVADO, IT MIGHT TURN YOU OFF AT TIMES, BUT HE’S WORKED HARDER, WITH BETTER RESULTS THAN ANY POLITICIAN I KNOW, I’VE EVER MET, TO BRING PROSPERITY TO ALL PEOPLE AND ESPECIALLY WANTS PROSPERITY FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

    REMEMBER, IT’S THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE AT THE CORE OF HIS AMERICA-FIRST MOVEMENT. THE RICH ELITES, THEY WANT — ALL THOSE PEOPLE FROM WALL STREET IN HOLLYWOOD. THEY VOTED FOR HILLARY AND THEY’RE GOING TO VOTE FOR BIDEN. AND BY THE WAY, THOSE OF THE SAME PEOPLE, MANY OF THEM NEVER-TRUMP, WHO THOUGHT OUTSOURCING JOBS TO CHINA WAS A GRAND IDEA. AND THEY’RE THE SAME ONES WHO SOUGHT TO KEEP FOREIGN WORKERS FLOODING INTO THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, ALL OF THEM ARE FOR JOE BIDEN.

    THE AMERICA-FIRST MOVEMENT, IT’S NEVER GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CELEBRITIES. BUT IT HAS SOMETHING BETTER. IT HAS POLICIES THAT LEAD TO PROSPERITY FOR MORE PEOPLE. AND THE MORE PROSPEROUS YOU ARE, MOST OF THE TIME, THE LESS RESENTFUL YOU WILL BE IN THE MORE PEACE YOU WILL HAVE. WE WANT THAT FOR ALL PEOPLE.

    AND WHEN BIDEN SUPPORTERS SAY THEY WANT TO DEFUND OR EVEN ABOLISH THE POLICE, ASK YOURSELF FOR A MOMENT, WHO’S THAT REALLY GOING TO HELP? WHO WILL BE THE VICTIMS OF THOSE CRIMES THAT GO UN-PROSECUTED? THE WORKING CLASS AND DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE. THAT’S WHO. BECAUSE THE RICH PEOPLE, THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR BIDEN, THEY CAN HIRE THEIR OWN SECURITY. BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS JUST GOING TO END UP MORE VULNERABLE AND LESS SAFE. THAT’S HOW THAT WILL ROLL. WE’VE SEEN EVIDENCE OF THIS, BY THE WAY, DURING THE PAST WEEK WHEN COPS WERE NOWHERE TO BE WHEN COPS WERE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.

    PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT HE WILL WORK WITH ANYONE OF ANY PARTY IN ANY STATE, ANY TIME, TO HELP MORE PEOPLE GET OUT OF POVERTY. AND THAT INCLUDES, BY THE WAY, REFORMING INSTITUTIONS TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE GETS A FAIR SHOT. BUT THAT PROCESS DOESN’T REQUIRE BURNING IT ALL DOWN OR CREATING A PERPETUAL GRIEVANCE CULTURE LIKE THE ONE THAT EXISTS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES. THAT WILL JUST SET EVERYBODY BACK AT A TIME WHEN NORMAL AMERICA WANTS TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD.
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    Gutfeld on the Media's Role in the Riots (10 min)
    We have leaders who are more upset, the media is more upset about President Trumps tweets than the fact that people are getting beaten.

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    Antifa arrests coming, concerns over riots
    heading to suburbia, government source says

    By Hollie McKay | Fox News
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    A police officer stands behind a riot shield during nationwide unrest following the death in Minneapolis police custody of George Floyd in Oklahoma City, Okla., U.S., May 31, 2020. (Reuters)

    Agitators behind the rioting that has paralyzed the country over the past week want to move into more suburban areas, a government intelligence source has told Fox News.

    Much of the worry stems from the notion that many in well-armed, suburban, and rural neighborhoods won't hesitate to exercise their Second Amendment rights and elevated anxieties could lead to heavy confrontation.

    "Antifa knows this," said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "Local and state authorities have to get a grip on this because if it moves to the suburbs, more people will die."

    Several analysts pointed to places that have served as something of "testbed" locations – including Madison, Wis., which was ransacked Saturday night, along with quiet pockets of Charleston, S.C.

    GEORGE FLOYD UNREST: HOW RIOT GROUPS COME TOGETHER TO LOOT, DESTROY

    While it remains murky as to who exactly is behind the ongoing turbulence taking place in dozens of cities nationwide, much of the finger-pointing has been directed toward Antifa, a radical left-wing anti-fascist outfit.

    But most officials and analysts have surmised that there a number of players and agendas with regards to the rioting, which has overshadowed the peaceful protests calling out racial inequalities and police brutality directed toward African-Americans.

    And arrests among its highest ranks may be imminent.

    Intelligence sources pointed out that indictments have been building for some time, and a close examination of funding revenues remains under the microscope. While Antifa operates as something of a leaderless militant wing, sources closely engaged in the matter said that there are identifiable top brass driving and inciting criminal activity.

    "These are smart people, educated people and it runs like a cell right out of the anti-fascist tradecraft books of Europe in the 1970s, it doesn't have a head or hierarchy, but it has a lot of local leadership," the government insider explained. "The local apparatus has very good intelligence capabilities, but where their weaknesses are is in communication and using apps that allow for large group chats.”

    An NYPD source, who was not authorized to speak on the record, concurred that fears were escalating in suburban pockets of New York state following a rash of rumors pertaining to looting starting there.

    "People in other places like Suffolk County are worrying, preparing for the worst," said the source. "There is just a lot of confusion and fear.”

    Moreover, the group's "electronic communication" shows that they plan where to show up and typically arrive at pre-determined locations on bikes.

    LOOTERS RUN WILD IN BRONX AS VIDEO SHOWS
    NYPD OFFICER BEING BEATEN: 'FORDHAM IS ON FIRE'

    While Antifa is alleged to be playing a prominent role in the chaos – prompting President Trump to announce plans to label them a terrorist organization – on the other end of the spectrum, right-wing radical groups are also believed to be stoking the fires and capitalizing on the calamity.

    Twitter said Tuesday that it had suspended the account of a white supremacist group for spreading discord and disinformation across the social media platform, using the "Antifa_US" umbrella and threatening to go into the "white hoods.”


    Police in riot gear stand in front of the White House as demonstrators gather to protest the death of George Floyd, Saturday, May 30, 2020, outside the White House in Washington. Floyd died after being restrained by Minneapolis police officers.  (AP)

    Furthermore, law enforcement officials have also stressed that much of criminal activity and stealing is also stemming from opportunistic individuals with no greater intention than to steal and wreak havoc, with no broader ideological leanings.

    And amid the turmoil and uncertainty, gun sales are projected to soar nationwide this month as the unrest and looting continue, with store owners from Los Angeles to Virginia all documenting lines around the block on Monday.

    Gunmakers American Outdoor Brands and Sturm, Ruger & Co., ammunition maker Vista Outdoor and police body cam and Taser stun gun maker Axon Enterprise were all trading higher as investors priced in the possibility the violence could propel already surging sales.

    The DOJ declined to comment.
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    Tear gas was not used to clear protesters for Trump (3:27 min)
    Police put out a statement saying that no tear gas was used to push back the protesters in Lafayette Square. Now Democrats on Capitol Hill are saying that those protesters were peaceful, but the park police say that some protesters were combative and threw projectiles forcing them to de-escalate.

    According to a senior official, the decision to widen the perimeter around the White House was made early Monday morning, but when Attorney General Bill Barr arrived in Lafayette Square, the plan had not yet been executed. The official claims a protester threw a water bottle at the Attorney General, and that’s when Bill Barr gave the order to push protesters back before President Trump walked out.

    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer calls it unconstitutional, and abuse of presidential power and possible illegal. The president of the United State ordered troops to attack peaceful American citizens, exercising their constitutional rights by tear gassing them at the public park while military helicopters flew over head.

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    More info about park clearing, includes Park Police statement

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/02...ainst-rioters/

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    To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.
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    Tear gas was not used to clear protesters for Trump (3:27 min)
    Police put out a statement saying that no tear gas was used to push back the protesters in Lafayette Square. Now Democrats on Capitol Hill are saying that those protesters were peaceful, but the park police say that some protesters were combative and threw projectiles forcing them to de-escalate.

    According to a senior official, the decision to widen the perimeter around the White House was made early Monday morning, but when Attorney General Bill Barr arrived in Lafayette Square, the plan had not yet been executed. The official claims a protester threw a water bottle at the Attorney General, and that’s when Bill Barr gave the order to push protesters back before President Trump walked out.
    Sorry guys. I try to stay out of this thread out of respect for y’all having an uninterrupted domain to talk all things Trump, Q and such, but in this particular case I truly feel as if I’m being asked the age old question “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?”

    First off, I’m always dubious of testimonials from “unnamed Sources”, and I would be just as much were it Obama, or Hidin Biden as the sitting president.

    But second, and most important to the point, I watched that whole episode go down live and not once, did I see the protesters be hostile towards that spread of different law enforcement agencies dressed up like storm troopers ready for war.

    What I saw, were a multitude of unannounced, and unnecessarily brutal advances made by police on people guilty of nothing but demonstrating their 1st Amendment right of freedom of speech, and freedom to assemble to address their government of their grievances. That’s as American as baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet.

    You know the funny thing, were the ruling bodies of countries like Venezuela for example to march on protesters in the exact same fashion, the same heads of state here who gave this very order would be seeking news cameras quickly as possible to wag the finger, and decry such actions as brutalizing their own people, demonstrating yet again how these regimes must be replaced.

    What I also saw was a stunt of epic proportions, in the chaotic trot over to St. John’s for that holding up the Bible photo op. I‘m still amused at the old Trump vs. McMahon clip in that all too entertaining bit; but this is not in the realms of WWE or reality tv any more. I can only imagine what the rest of the world is thinking of all this.

    It was also quite obvious that the streets were cleared when they were, in order to facilitate this stunt of both demonstrating authoritarian power, and throwing red meat to his Christian base.

    Let me ask you guys a question: Were the proverbial shoe on the other foot, and President Obama did the exact same thing in the exact same circumstance to people protesting him, and then swaggering on over to wag the Bible in their faces, would you be offering him the same praises?

    What if it were President Biden doing the exact same thing? And MSNBC was fawning over his every move as FOX NEWS fumed.

    By the way, mod hat totally off here, this is just me, member Gracy May, telling it and asking it as she sees it.

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    Quote Posted by Chester (here)
    Relevant to this thread - too bad "members only"

    Completely off topic of me here ( ) but now you've mentioned it, and before this gets removed by Alphabet - it will at some point - I'd already downloaded this and placed it in the library a couple of days ago. (Pedogate Part 1 is also there as well.)

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    (Response to Gracy May's post here)

    I can't speak for anyone else, but here are some thoughts on the topic.

    I watched this via various Twitter accounts last night, as well. And I watched a lot of blue check Twitter accounts jump to a lot of conclusions and run with the assumptions that what they saw was
    1. tear gas
    2. it was all for a photo op

    Seeing and watching those accounts, I can understand their point of view.

    I don't have a TV, so I don't necessarily know how this was covered on TV news channels.

    I also read Neal Augenstein tweet, that is referenced in this Federalist article.

    Most of the blue check accounts ignored or dismissed this tweet.

    Myself? I prefer to wait until I all the facts come in before I decide what I think and how I feel about any given set of circumstances or events. And I'm willing to look at events from many different points of view.

    The department responsible for that decision released this statement.

    Quote On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.

    To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.

    Throughout the demonstrations, the USPP has not made any arrests. The USPP will always support peaceful assembly but cannot tolerate violence to citizens or officers or damage to our nation’s resources that we are entrusted to protect.
    As for the comparisons to Venezuela, I'd add Hong Kong, France, Sweden, Germany, Iran and so on... I tend to want to consider the people's complaints have validity. However, I've seen others completely dismiss their concerns and complaints as if they are all the product of US (or CIA) insurgency tactics.. Which honestly, I can see that point of view, too.

    There is an odd paucity of media coverage on the protests in other countries?

    I also give consideration that there is a similar process of insurgency tactics being used in the US right now, attempts to hi-jack legitimate protests. (Which could also be CIA activated.)

    Perhaps the people were protesting Trump, but I thought the people are protesting a great many things, their perceptions of police-brutality, the issue of economic inequality. Some just want to see America destroyed.

    I've also seen plenty of misleading media headlines that appear to me bent on firing the flames, for example:

    Twitter (ABC) headline "Trump says he will deploy the US military if state officials fail to quell protests".

    That's misleading. Trump is not quelling protests, he is taking a stand on the issue of the rioting and looting.

    The right of peaceful assembly and protest is protected within the Constitution.
    Protests are not being quelled. They continue to happen, and will continue to happen

    On the other hand, every day people all across this a nation are literally begging their local and state government to help with the rioting and looting.
    Rioting and looting are against the law. They are crimes. Trump is calling to quell the criminal activity. He would prefer the local and state government step up. But it they don't he's prepared to step in.

    There are a great many people reacting to Trumps walk to stand in front of the vandalized church.

    Some people like you, see it only as a "chaotic trot over to St. John’s for that holding up the Bible photo op."

    This point of view is being amplified and magnified by a lot of big media accounts, and people like John Brennan, James Comey, Nancy Pelosi, ect..

    Other people saw it as a show of strength. When at war, an enemy will often come in and deface the monuments of nation, as a means to "mark the territory" so to speak. It's a demoralization tactic. St John's Church is where every president has gone to after their inauguration. (From James Madison on.)

    To me, to stand in front of that church with a Bible is a powerful message.

    People mocked the Bible. It's probably the Bible that Trump has inherited from his mother.
    Ivanka carried it her purse and handed it to him. For people who know the story behind that Bible, there is added meaning to his action.

    I also watched the video of the young woman who lost her sister in one of the protests.
    And the young man, standing over David Dorn as he was dying.
    (These were heartbreaking, I'm not linking them here.)

    There are countless people expressing similar sentiments to this young woman.

    https://twitter.com/McKaylaRoseJ/sta...22295861305351

    Personally, I probably gave Obama far more of a benefit of a doubt than I should have.
    I've been quite shocked to learn some of the things I've learned about him in the past few years.
    I thought perhaps he was just being controlled, like so many before him.

    That said, I don't think this is a competition, I think most people care deeply about our nation, people, humanity and our planet.
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    Army Lets Slip That It’s Conducting Secret Operation Around D.C.

    By Anthony Capaccio
    July 22, 2019, 11:14 AM EDT
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    • Black Hawk copters working on ‘emerging classified’ mission
    • Service asks Congress for an extra $1.55 million for project
    The Pentagon has revealed a few details about a secret Army mission that has Black Hawk helicopters flying missions over the Washington, D.C., area backed by active-duty and reserve soldiers.

    The mysterious classified operation was disclosed when the Army asked Congress for approval to shift funds to provide an extra $1.55 million for aircraft maintenance, air crews and travel in support of an “emerging classified flight mission.”

    It’s part of a $2.5 billion request this month to “reprogram” funds in the current fiscal year’s budget to programs considered high priorities. “Without additional funding, the Army will not be able to perform this classified mission,” the Defense Department said.
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    “Soldiers from assault helicopter company and aviation maintenance units will be supporting the mission with 10 UH-60s and maintenance capabilities for four months,” according to the document, referring to the Black Hawks. The money will also pay for a specialized “Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility” at Davison Army Airfield at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, just outside Washington.

    Army spokesman Wayne Hall declined in an email to comment on some possibilities -- including whether the mission involved protecting the White House or other federal buildings and whether it’s making use of specialized commando units of the Pentagon’s Joint Special Operations Command, which includes the Army’s Delta unit and Navy’s Seal Team Six.

    Hall said the operation began early in the fiscal year, which started Oct. 1, and “the duration of the mission is undetermined.”
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    This may be old news. (relatively speaking)

    Mysterious piles of bricks discovered at riots, protests in US cities (2 min)
    Piles of bricks and rocks showing up near the various protests sites: Fayetteville, North Carolina, Kansas City, and Dallas. None of them are in your construction areas, leading many to assume the bricks were planted by outside agitators specifically to stir up trouble.

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    This is an interesting development in the question of who is paying for all the bricks.

    https://twitter.com/ElyseCane/status...44459060772864

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    This is a bit of a PSA, if you see an unexplained pile of bricks show up in your local area.

    Let local authorities know,

    On social media tag local authorities with details
    Tag local brick companies
    Call local brick companies.

    Also, the police have reported finding parked cars, and in one case a bus, full of burglary tools and equipment.

    Since various riot groups and police have warned that they plan now to move from the bigger cities out into smaller towns and neighborhoods, it's prudent to keep an informed eye open.

    When people are throwing out water bottles, they are not necessarily filled with water. Many are filled with gasoline, to help accelerate fires when fires are set off.
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    [DS] Power Structure Dismantled, Think Military, Think Arrests, Good & Green (52 min)



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    I believe anything.
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    Will our leaders seek justice for victims of mob violence? (5:44 min)

    NYC Mayor de Blasio VS Reality
    These are criminals, not part of a peaceful protest. Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) has been pretending everything is fine.

    And thanks to New Your absolute insane reform and Andrew Cuomo (D) signs it, as soon as you get arrested, no bail whatsoever. So Police are forced to deal with the same criminals night after night.

    In January, there was a guy that robbed four different banks, released from jail under this policy just to go out and rob another one. That is how insane that is. And likely we are seeing the same thing with the looters, rioters and the arsonists.

    However, that New York attorney who was arrested for throwing that molotov cocktail into a police car, she was forced to post bail. A miracle. Luckily a former Obama (D) intel officer helped post the bail for her.

    Meanwhile, the Black Lives Matter Foundation is apparently preparing for a “War on Police”. They are reporting training a bunch of armed individuals to protect their community from law enforcement. They’re calling themselves “Peace Officers”. Keep in mind “Black Lives Matter” has a mission to eradicate white supremacy.
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