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    I think they already HAVE infiltrated the Q fringe, which is where they can have the most impact.

    I'll get flack for this but I think Charlie Ward is a part of that.
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    The relative lack of frequent Q posting, and lack of much-if-any real new intelligence-related information, into an already grown-large movement, encourages and attracts the kind of infiltration now seen, I feel.
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    The Perfect Storm, Ukraine Activated, We Are Witnessing A FULL PANIC ATTACK




    Another EO Signed To Help The Economy, An Economy Without A [CB] Will Shine


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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Quote Posted by Chester (here)
    Interesting...

    DISCOVERED: Russians and Other Nefarious Operators Are Inserting Anti-Semitic Conspiracies Into the Q Movement


    Why would "the Russians" do this if they weren't concerned of the positive impact of the "Q" movement on Trump's re-election chances?

    And doesn't this also suggest that maybe "Q" is "the real deal?" (thus requiring forms of discrediting like this?)

    The QAnon Movement started in the middle of 2017 and attracted a huge following. Some of the information shared within the loosely connected organization was authentic and of high quality. Because of its success and popularity, outside influences from Russia and others have inserted themselves into the movement and are acting as disruptors.
    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/s...037368834?s=20

    Meh, sounds propagandistic to me.

    Also, they said the "movement" started in the middle of 2017 (late October was the first drop IIRC?)..... so I'm just gonna skip the rest with that kind of error.

    Plus,, I've got a pretty low opinion of Mr Sather still
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    Can anyone confirm these indictments are real?

    https://video214.com/play/ZKnHmFk9gU3Yltuglv1dlQ/s

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    Not seeing anything yet from my usual obamagate online sources.

    Based so far on that, seems this may be the video equivalent of a LARP, and Fake News.
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    If it's true it will rock the world........


    Loretta Lynch -indicted, 3 counts conspiracy to overthrow gov. 2 counts obstruction, 3 counts lying to congress
    Sally Yates-indicted, 3 counts overthrow, 3 counts obstruction
    John Brennan- 3 counts conspiracy to overthrow the gov  3 counts lying to congress 2 counts lying to investigators 1 count conspiracy to commit treason 3 counts obstruction of justice
    James Clapper 3 counts conspiracy to overthrow 2 counts lying to congress
    CIA ops x 4 ? Charges pending charges not listed
    James Comey 3 counts conspiracy to overthrow the gov.   6 counts perjury  4 counts of obstruction  4 counts of falsifying gov. docs
    Andrew McCabe  3 counts conspiracy to overthrow gov    2 counts perjury 3 counts lying to investigators 1 count falsifying doc
    Bruce Ohr 3 counts conspiracy?, 1 count falsifying docs
    *James Baker 5 unknown counts
    *Peter Strzok 3 counts conspiracy to overthrow gov.     4 counts of perjury       3 counts of falsifying docs
    *Lisa Page 3 counts conspiracy to overthrow   3 counts perjury   1 count obstruction
    Rosenstien varios charges x five
    Susan Rice illegal use of gov. systems, 3 counts of perjury 1 count of obstruction
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    Yes very much so if this turns out to be true. But I don't know that source, so it's impossible to weigh this information with any confidence.

    For the sake of argument, can anyone explain the significance of the charge 'conspiracy to overthrow the government'? How does that differ from 'conspiracy to commit treason' (only Brennan), and does anyone know the potential penalties for these and the other charges?

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    Quote Posted by Waldo (here)
    Can anyone confirm these indictments are real?

    https://video214.com/play/ZKnHmFk9gU3Yltuglv1dlQ/s
    I was able to track this down closer to the source. James R with a handle of @Realpersonpltcs. This happened on Periscope, 20 April 2020.

    The video version of the full episode is here.

    A clip of this section with James R giving people permission to mark, clip and share, is here, posted on 23 April 2020 (youtube)

    The source seems to be a woman at DOJ that has been an accurate source for James, and/or Dir. Mike in their past experiences.

    In the youtube version of the video that Waldo shared, the woman talking at the end sounds like the woman from Goldfish Reports, a video of that version, was uploaded by The GenX Report.

    BOOM BOOM BOOM! Indictments Are Here - The Beginning
    premiered on 26 April 2020.

    I'm not familiar with any of these people; James R, Dir Mike, Ron Partain, or The GenX Report.

    This would help explain why there was so much talk about this back in April and May.

    My understanding of how a Grand Jury works is that it's like a preliminary hearing to see if there is sufficient evidence to charge a crime with extra secrecy protections.

    How Does a Grand Jury Work?

    Quote Grand Jury Proceedings

    How a grand jury works is much more relaxed than normal court room proceedings. There is no judge present and frequently there are no lawyers except for the prosecutor. The prosecutor will explain the law to the jury and work with them to gather evidence and hear testimony. Under normal courtroom rules of evidence, exhibits and other testimony must adhere to strict rules before admission. However, a grand jury has broad power to see and hear almost anything they would like.

    However, unlike the vast majority of trials, grand jury proceedings are kept in strict confidence. This serves two purposes:

    It encourages witnesses to speak freely and without fear of retaliation.
    It protects the potential defendant's reputation in case the jury does not decide to indict.
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    Glad someone here had the time to do some real research on this - thanks edina!
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    https://twitter.com/IvanPentchoukov/...442816000?s=20

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    Thanks for the above post Mountain Jim.

    Interesting time for the Seth Rich case to come back into the light. I'm feeling as if the wagons are beginning to circle.


    Latest IPOT

    After some joking around and mailbag, he goes into the seeds from China. Also someone received masks from China. He shows on the map where in China they came from. Interesting discussion on why. Also talks about the Chinese troops in Mexico and Canada.

    Remember Q said: Watch California....he also discusses California's Gov. Newsoms interesting purchase of masks from China and the big loan he received from them.

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    Not sure what to think about this, but does not give me a warm feeling

    https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/stat...830974465?s=20




    https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/stat...985099777?s=20




    https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/stat...279254529?s=20

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    I can understand your feeling, mountain_jim. There's a part of me that wants to say something encouraging, because I understand how the demoralization process works to discourage people. But, in fact, there may be some sabotage happening.

    Trump retweeted another Paul Sperry tweet this morning,

    https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/stat...75216387956743

    I've never thought of Trump as a savior, I don't buy into that paradigm.

    What we have is someone willing to fight for (and with) the people in Office of the Presidency.
    But the real power is and always has been the people.

    People have the power to put pressure on our representatives on this matter.
    Take back our power, and so on.

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    Trumps posts video on Obamagate.

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    I don't see where anyone has picked up on the leaked bodycam footage from the Floyd arrest and death that has precipitated months of protests and riots here in the USA.

    I won't embed it, but this should, perhaps, be posted and examined in some other threads directly relating to the topic. Floyd can be heard to say that he can't breath while in the car, and he actually asks to be put on the ground. See for yourself, if you so choose:

    https://youtu.be/YPSwqp5fdIw


    I see where this video was posted, without any further discussion, two days ago.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1370417
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    https://twitter.com/theconservador/s...023905280?s=20



    Brian Cates thread today on the UkraineGate scandal

    https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/st...59124417507334

    https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/st...613878272?s=20




    https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/st...639204866?s=20

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    Sara appeared to be one of the Q-favored reporters early in this saga. She is also now expressing doubts that justice will be done, or perhaps applying pressure to the extent she can.

    https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/sta...251601922?s=20



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    Many people have asked me why I haven’t written a book since the start of my reporting on the FBI’s debunked investigation into whether President Donald Trump’s campaign conspired with Russia.

    I haven’t done so because I don’t believe the most important part of the story has been told: indictments and accountability. I also don’t believe we actually know what really happened on a fundamental level and how dangerous it is to our democratic republic. That will require a deeper investigation that answers the fundamental questions of the role played by former senior Obama officials, including the former President and his aides.

    We’re getting closer but we’re still not there.

    Still, the extent of what happened during the last presidential election is much clearer now than it was years ago when trickles of evidence led to years of what Fox News host Sean Hannity and I would say was peeling back the layers of an onion. We now know that the U.S. intelligence and federal law enforcement was weaponized against President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign and administration by a political opponent. We now know how many officials involved in the false investigation into the president trampled the Constitution.

    I never realized how terrible the deterioration inside the system had become until four years ago when I stumbled onto what was happening inside the FBI. Those concerns were brought to my attention by former and current FBI agents, as well as numerous U.S. intelligence officials aware of the failures inside their own agencies. But it never occurred to me when I first started looking into fired FBI Director James Comey and his former side kick Deputy Director Andrew McCabe that the cultural corruption of these once trusted American institutions was so vast.

    I’ve watched as Washington D.C. elites make promises to get to the bottom of it and bring people to justice. They appear to make promises to the American people they never intended to keep. Who will be held accountable for one of the most egregious abuses of power by bureaucrats in modern American political history? Now I fear those who perpetuated this culture of corruption won’t ever really be held accountable.

    These elite bureaucrats will, however, throw the American people a bone. It’s how they operate. They expect us to accept it and then move on.


    One example is the most recent decision by the Justice Department to ask that charges be dropped on former national security advisor Michael Flynn. It’s just a bone because we know now these charges should have never been brought against the three-star general but will anyone on former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team have to answer for ruining a man’s life. No, they won’t. In fact, Flynn is still fighting for his freedom.

    Think about what has already happened? From former Attorney General Jeff Session’s appointment of Utah Prosecutor John Huber to the current decision by Attorney General William Barr to appoint Connecticut prosecutor John Durham to investigate the malfeasance what has been done? Really, nothing at all. No one has been indicted.

    The investigation by the FBI against Trump was never predicated on any real evidence but instead, it was a set-up to usurp the American voters will. It doesn’t matter that the establishment didn’t like Trump, in 2016 the Americans did. Isn’t that a big enough reason to bring charges against those involved?

    His election was an anomaly for the Washington elite. They were stunned when Trump won and went into full gear to save their own asses from discovery and target anyone who supported him. The truth is they couldn’t stand the Trump and American disruptors who elected him to office.

    Now they will work hand in fist to ensure that this November election is not a repeat win of 2016. We’re already seeing that play out everyday on the news.

    But Barr and Durham are now up against a behemoth political machine that seems to be operating more like a steam roller the closer we get to the November presidential elections. Barr told Fox News in June that he expects Durham’s report to come before the end of summer but like always, it’s August and we’re still waiting.

    Little is known about the progress of Durham’s investigation but it’s curious as to why nothing has been done as of yet and the Democrats are sure to raise significant questions or concerns if action is taken before the election. They will charge that Durham’s investigation is politically motivated. That is, unless the charges are just brought against subordinates and not senior officials from the former administration.

    I sound cynical because I am right now. It doesn’t mean I won’t trying to get to the truth or fighting for justice.

    But how can you explain the failure of Durham and Barr to actually interview key players such as Comey, or former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, or former CIA Director John Brennan. That is what we’re hearing from them.

    If I am going to believe my sources, Durham has interviewed former FBI special agent Peter Strzok, along with FBI Special agent Joe Pientka, among some others. Still, nothing has really been done or maybe once again they will throw us bone.

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    Quote It’s Happening: US Attorney John Durham has Requested to Interview Former Corrupt CIA Director John Brennan
    By Jim Hoft
    Published August 6, 2020 at 11:44am
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    U.S. Attorney John Durham has asked to interview former CIA Director John Brennan--who has agreed to be interviewed, and the details are being worked out.

    ...

    The Washington Examiner reported:

    Durham, the federal prosecutor from Connecticut appointed by Attorney General William Barr to investigate the origins of the Crossfire Hurricane inquiry and to scrutinize the conduct of the law enforcement leaders and intelligence officials involved in it, has asked to interview Brennan, according to “people familiar with the request” cited by NBC News, and the former top spy and vociferous Trump critic has reportedly agreed to the sit-down. The same report cites sources who suggest Durham’s inquiry may be nearing the finish line.

    Brennan has acknowledged that he is in the “crosshairs” of the criminal inquiry into the Russia investigation led by Durham. He recently claimed, and the White House acknowledged, that he asked the CIA for his official records, including his personal notes and any classified CIA documents that he had signed to help him write his upcoming memoir, but the agency denied his request.

    Last year, the New York Times reported that Durham asked for Brennan’s electronic communications, phone records, and other documents from the CIA, something NBC News confirmed on Wednesday.

    On July 20, 2020, Joe diGenova predicted that Brennan will be the last one to be interviewed by Durham, after others cooperated, but that he will “take the 5th”.
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