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    Hi:

    To return to the GCs, I heard from Ron Waugh, two years before I heard Tom Bearden discuss it, about how the buyout game goes, as carrots and sticks are brought to bear on the recalcitrant ones. Our experience neatly aligned with it. At that level of the game, adding a couple of zeroes to the offers blows the mind of Joe Average, but I heard of that about 40 years ago, long before I met Dennis, on how Arab sheiks worked. They would be negotiating a deal, and they would be “dinking around” at $10 million or so, but if things got rough, then they would say, “OK, let’s do a billion.” I may not have even been out of college when I heard that, and it sounded bizarre, but came from a close friend whose father was an oil company attorney who dealt with the Arabs.

    I have heard of other billion dollar offers, also from Arab sheiks who don’t like taking “no” for an answer, I heard that Greer was offered $2 billion, maybe to adjust for inflation ( ), and when I heard Greer’s $100 billion in quiet money boast by the GCs, it all fit. Dennis was certainly at least a 1% problem for the GCs. I think that what scared them the most was people such as Sparky coming forward if we got any momentum going, so we had to be taken out, and fast. Quietly, if possible, but if not, then we would be made an example of, people such as Sparky watched very closely what happened to us, and Sparky came to a grim end himself, several years later.

    So, what confidence level was all that, on that new scale of mine? Well, it is complex. You can take Ron Waugh’s and Dennis’s reporting to the bank on the offers. That is level 3. I don’t really know Greer, so I can’t put that in level 3, but Brian would have. Let’s call it level 3, once removed. That is about as far as I’ll stray, as far as evidence goes that I use for my work in this field. Mark’s reporting of his experiences is similar to Greer’s, in that Brian knew Mark better than I did, and I had other validation of Mark’s story, which I might be able to reveal soon. It will be mightily impressive. There is a long ways to go on the GCs and my evidence and confidence.

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    Bill and I have discussed it on this thread before, and the issue is highly consistent with the status of the GCs, but average people really have a difficult time understanding, and few really want to. The GCs hide in the shadows, just like those negative gray beings did in that hellish future Earth that Roads visited. They weren’t that invisible, but to humans in that reality, they were. Both the GCs and those gray beings know that if their existence was generally acknowledged by humanity, it would soon be Game Over. People will resist if the bloodsucking is in the open. A billion dollars is a pittance, at the level of the game they play at: controlling a planet; and they can throw a lot of money at the problem, to keep it quiet, before they begin playing rough.

    If their subtle and clandestine methods of taking out the upstarts fail, then the GCs escalate the strategy. If they have to kill people, great effort is expended to make it look like something else. This is all so logical, and there is so much independent evidence of it, that humanity’s general denial of the reality of the planet they live on has been something to behold. I wrote about the levels of free energy awareness long ago, and I have never seen a reaction or awareness that does not neatly fit into those categories.

    Greer talks about the GCs’ drug-running program, in which thousands of their operatives have met instant death when they violated the most minor security protocols. The people who gave my pal his underground technology show risked their lives to give it, and I have purposely known as little about that show as I could. That free energy and antigravity technology are on the planet is plenty for me to know. The rest is the small stuff, and I won’t go down that path any further. It is not important, and can begin to put people at risk, even though it was a generation ago.

    I don’t know the particulars, but it is possible that the security was relatively lax back then, and maybe they have buttoned it up since then. All I can say for sure is that cubicle-dwellers and Internet surfers sure aren’t going to be offered a billion dollars to cease their efforts, or be given an underground technology demonstration. Not many walk on the high road. I no longer do, and Godzilla likely just keeps half an eye on me. I am not entirely forgotten, but I am not storming the ramparts, either.

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    Hi:

    To return to those confidence levels in science, and crossing it with those levels of my confidence framework when looking into matters of history and scholarship, how confident am I in the existence of the GCs and their machinations? Very. None of it is high confidence evidence, as to their identity, and whether they leave their calling cards when they visit, but it is a whole lot of lower-confidence evidence, at least, as a scientist would look at it. But, in dealing with the real world, in which the GCs don’t submit themselves to experimentation, it is about as confident as I can get. About the only thing to give me more confidence would be to be kidnapped for my own underground show.

    Also, GC activities overlap those of the lower levels. What I have noticed is that the highest levels are the most sophisticated and subtle. Most people that the GCs mess with don’t even realize that they have been messed with. The targets bring somebody into their organization who just doesn’t work out and helps wreck it; their bank suddenly decides to stop lending to them, maybe even calls the loan; they “merely” have a “heart attack” at a key moment, and so on. If they ever figure it out, if they survive the experience, it can be years later that they begin to understand what really happened.

    It took more than ten years after my second stint with Dennis to realize that we were being set up in an elaborate sting operation, with a trillion dollar trust, penthouse suites, sovereign nations, and obscure banking laws. If we had been greedy, we would have been led down the path to prison. Could that have “merely” been a national operation? Sure, it could have been, but I doubt it. After those days, I heard, from multiple credible sources, that those were just the GCs’ new tactics, after the Cold War ended. You can take the CIA’s 1988 offer to the bank, as it represented “European interests.”

    I have written it before, that the Rothschilds got involved, and David Rockefeller called Dennis at home, before Dennis got the boom lowered on him one last time. IMO, that means that they are not GCs, if they ever were. The GCs don’t use their names, and it seemed that the Rockefellers and Rothschilds were acting on their own interests, not taking orders from the GC level, and this is an area where conspiracists often miss the boat. It is a cousin to calling every paranormal encounter a visitation from God. Those cloak-and-dagger games happen at all of those levels that I listed out. I have seen the Rockefellers called the GCs by various conspiracists, and every instance of skullduggery in this milieu attributed to them. I’m sorry, but it doesn’t work that way.

    We experienced organized suppression from all levels of Earth’s power structure, and I strongly doubt that it was all coordinated. They all play the same game, of power and control, whether it happens at the city, county, state, national, continental, or global levels. There was likely some direction given from the GC level in situations with global import, and nothing trumps free energy. Even an ET reveal only changes our story. Only those technologies that they brought along can change our lives.

    I’ll allow that the CIA’s offer could have been just from an energy consortium of some kind, but my guess is that it ultimately hailed from the GC level. My friend’s underground technology show likely was given by a dissident GC faction. Brian’s near-fatal encounter could have been “merely” from Dolan’s “Classified Reality,” which operates at the national level, although there is international cooperation on the UFO/ET issue. That sting operation could have been just a national operation, but I doubt it. JFK’s murder seems to have been perpetrated by national interests, but Doug Caddy’s testimony of what E. Howard Hunt told him makes perfect sense, and I’ll allow that when JFK began broaching the ET issue, the GCs may well have gotten involved in some way, although JFK had likely long since been put on a hit list. Dulles certainly wanted him dead, and led the cover-up. If what Stich heard is true, it would be no surprise.

    Also, although Hitler would have been disappointed, the GCs are not a bunch of Jews. They are probably almost all men, if not entirely, but no race or ethnicity has a monopoly on vice or virtue. Ashkenazy Jews are the world’s smartest ethnic group, so Jewish dark pathers have some advantages, but it is not all that great. There are plenty of clever people on Earth.

    When people say that they have the inside scoop from the GC level, and put up pay sites for their subscribers to get “the truth,” all sorts of red flags go up for me. I doubt that anybody with the inside scoop is talking, or saying much, and those who say they get it are likely being fed disinformation, to one degree or another, or are making it up themselves. I really don’t pay too much attention to them. I am even skeptical of some of what Greer asserts. I would not expect people to believe my work, unless they did some homework, and there is plenty to do on that score.

    Dennis put the world’s best heating system on people’s homes for free, in the most brilliant and benevolent business strategy that I ever saw or heard about, which stands today as the greatest attempt ever made to bring alternative energy to the marketplace. I have yet to see any of his assailants ever acknowledge those indisputable facts, as their houses of cards, portraying Dennis as some sort of criminal, would collapse. So, they all engage in a contest of who can tell the biggest lies about Dennis, from public officials to the mainstream media to the “skeptics” to even the talking heads in the free energy field. For me, it is like that saying, I used to be disgusted, but now I am only amused, and those are all examples of my journey’s primary lesson.

    The GCs exist, are vigilant and mischievous, but they are only the apex predator in a political-economic jungle that is filled with predators.

    There is more to come on the GCs.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I have written at great length on the GCs before, and don’t want to get too repetitive, but this is also a good subject for repetition. But I am focusing on evidence, credibility, and other issues. So, it is a little different flavor.

    What I have noticed is that people can really go off the deep end on the subject of GCs. Brian called those snooping into the GCs “Truth-Seekers,” and there are many casualties in their ranks. What focusing on the GCs tends to do is play a variation of the victim game. Paradoxically, while conspiracists often wallow and get stuck in the subject of the GCs, the structuralists deny that they even exist. Both camps are delusional on this subject, and what they have in common is fear. Love is always the answer.

    In Brian’s last book, he discussed those four camps, who are trying to make a dent, and noted how only the “spiritualists” had what it took, as long as they escaped the various New Age and “mystical” traps, such as the “gurus” and their groupies, and they need to stay grounded, which is a hazard of the mystical path. Getting to a comprehensive awareness, and able to hit the notes, is like walking the razor’s edge.

    Focusing on the GCs, and thinking that they are the root of our problems, is a seductive delusion, and Brian suggested taking the high road, which may have been the most enlightened message that he had to impart. It is obviously far easier said and done, and a comprehensive awareness needs to take in the GCs, but if people get stuck there, it is usually a descent into madness, drinking, suicide, and the like.

    There seem to be evolutionary reasons for this obsession by many, and the ire directed at the GCs. They were likely behind wrecking my life, but I wish them no harm. Humans have a tendency to seek and punish cheaters, and the GCs are the greatest cheaters on Earth, and have taken cheating to a science. But in the end, they only cheat themselves. Dennis always said to just “let God” take care of the “bad guys,” and for a Christian, that is high-enlightenment. Conspiracists tend to treat the GCs as another out-group, but as Jesus said, there really isn’t an out-group: we are all one.

    That stated, I am going to present several events and scenarios, and what the GC involvement seemed to be, and where they likely were not involved, and observers at most.

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    Hi:

    Of all of the energy issues that I have been in, high-MPG cars have been the most personally poignant for me. Wringing more energy from a gallon of gasoline was partly what Mr. Mentor’s engine was about. For something that moved slowly and stopped a lot, like a mail truck, it was estimated to get up to 200 MPG. Its greatest champion was a rocket scientist who helped save NASA’s manned space program, and what a high-ranking government official told Mr. Mentor, about “making his funeral plans” if he planned to compete against Detroit, was probably the beginning of Mr. Mentor’s awakening on that score, but I did not hear that until I became an adult. The people who likely stole that engine got cement shoes themselves, as they got eaten by larger predators.

    Mr. Mentor later tried to build a high-MPG carburetor himself, but abandoned his plans when he discovered that Detroit owned almost all of the patents on high-MPG carburetors. That happened before I met Dennis. Soon after meeting Dennis, I spent an evening talking with his bodyguard, who knew a guy who built a 200 MPG carburetor. He understood how it worked, and that was likely part of his motivation for being Dennis’s bodyguard.

    But it was super heat pumps and hydraulic heat engines after that, until we were finally wiped out in Ventura. As I was stepping down from my controller job at the trucking company, Ron Waugh enlightened me on the Justice Department’s “heroic” efforts in the high-MPG carburetor field. Then it was another short stint with Dennis, for which I nearly went to prison, and nearly a decade after that, and more than 30 years after Mr. Mentor’s engine made a splash, Dennis invited me to the White House, for another high-MPG carburetor that he developed. It had come full-circle for me, from high-MPG technology to super heat pumps to free energy and back to high-MPG technology. They finally ran Dennis out of the energy business over it. They couldn’t kill him, so one last government-media attack, on behalf of David Rockefeller and friends, did the trick.

    That feels like another situation in which the hand of my “friends” is in evidence.

    So, what was the GC involvement, if any? It is hard to say, but I think that their involvement would have been limited. I see it as more of national-level government and corporate gangsterism, rather than the long arm of the GCs, but the settlement that Ron presided over was a GC-level-ish deal. As I have stated, the lines can get blurry between the levels.

    I could well be wrong, but my sense is that the GCs are mainly interested in keeping the paradigm in place that dismisses free energy as “impossible,” suppressing any such independent efforts to develop such technology, with their carrots and sticks, and they largely let nature take its course with heat pumps, heat engines, and high-MPG technologies. That is all decidedly Fourth Epoch technology, and the genocides and wars over oil they see as “the lads at play.” I doubt that they involve themselves in it much, although they know full well that we are on our way to making Earth uninhabitable, and that was likely part of the motivation for the people who gave my friend his show.

    I doubt that the GCs micromanage the situation. They know what the key leverage points and vulnerabilities are, and they watch those closely. The rest is managed by the “rabble” of the retail elite, corporate America, and Wall Street, and they don’t need to be persuaded. If they think of embracing somebody like Dennis, a call from David Rockefeller can set them straight. That is how I see that issue today, on high-MPG technology.

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    So, on my journey, how much direct GC influence was there? Again, it is kind of hard to exactly say. Bill the BPA Hit Man was a likely GC asset, as was Ken, but they were relatively disposable contract agents, like my close relative was, who played pretty high, maybe only a step below the GC level, and may have had some peripheral involvement with it. Bill might have “only” been on loan to the BPA from the GCs. The Mormon Financial Empire, which is the GC ringleader today, was heavily invested in Washington’s electric companies, so there were definitely GC interlocks with what happened in Seattle, and how active their involvement may have been will likely always be an open question to me. Mormon-led efforts stole both our Seattle and Ventura companies, and they waited until we were in a headlock from the authorities, striking at the opportune moment. I have called that the “inside-outside job,” and have run into that situation more than once, among fellow travelers in the milieu. It seems to be a standard MO.

    The Attorney General’s office in Washington, and the gangsters who run Ventura County, were just hired muscle, they worked hand-in-hand with the media, and with Bill and Ken on the inside. They were multi-pronged operations, many were in on it, at least they knew that we were innocent of their charges, and the propaganda was all lies. Betsy’s conscience finally got to her, she quit, and she defended herself to Dennis by saying that she was “only following orders,” which was Eichmann’s defense. Ms. Pinch Hitter’s conscience never awoke, and like Mr. Deputy and many others, they were simply hit men and women, doing it for their rewards. Serving the forces of darkness can pay well, for a while.

    Psychopaths make great corporate executives and politicians, and the ranks of governments and corporations all over the world are filled with them. In a world of scarcity and fear, those people excel. Many are also not in on it that much, but they don’t really care, as long as they are well paid, in the systemic corruption of the USA’s legal system. The tales I have heard over the years, of just the “normal” functioning of our legal system, of judges getting commissions for sending people to privatized prisons, and on and on. So, the GCs really don’t need to manipulate the system very much to take out people such as Dennis. Some healthy bribes get the ball rolling, and then nature just takes its course.

    I was Dennis’s partner when he started getting those White Hat calls in the night and the friendly buy-out offer in Boston. Those calls continued in Ventura, and the billion dollar bribe from the CIA was very likely a GC overture, kind of a final offer before they lowered the boom on us. So, whom did those deputies steal our documents and photograph our blueprints for? I doubt that it was to peruse at their leisure.

    Unless my friend discusses it publicly, I won’t reveal his identity, and I might not even be freed to if I outlive him, but that underground technology show was closely related to my journey. It was a sampling of Godzilla’s Golden Hoard, and I have a hard time believing that it was not one of the GCs’ dissident factions, the ones who don’t want to live on Mars.

    Was Mallove’s murder GC-influenced somehow? I’ll never know, but Brian thought so, I couldn’t blame him, and he immediately moved to South America. The GCs’ bag of tricks is insanely deep. I’ll allow that they may not be able to target people with meteorites, but almost everything else is on the table, no matter how innocent it may seem. Sometimes a heart attack is just a heart attack, and a murder is just a murder, but they sure happen to free energy inventors and advocates at highly “coincidental” times. Paranoia is a real risk in this milieu, it is not easy to avoid, and I have watched it devour people. That said, there was far more than meets the eye to many of those events, and I have heard plenty of hair-raising stories, first- and second-hand, that I am not at liberty to publicly disclose, but I’ll just say that there are hit teams that work at the GC level, and probably a few levels down from them, who take out squeaky wheels, and their ability to make it seem like something other than premeditated murder has been highly honed over generations, and maybe even longer. Some of the GCs have quite the pedigree.

    Everything that I mentioned above I either directly witnessed or heard of first- or second-hand, from people with complete credibility with me, who had no cause to make anything up. The events were all too real. When Mr. Deputy unmasked himself to me, during my day on the witness stand, my life was never the same after that. You can’t buy that kind of education.

    So, there is a great deal of evidence of GC involvement in my journey, ranging from peripheral events to being cheered on or targeted for neutralization. None of it was at the rumor level, but direct personal experience, by either me or those close to me. The GCs don’t leave paper trails, however, so there is not much to go with other than the testimonies of their victims, and a trail of broken and shortened lives, which are far too “coincidental” to attribute to mere chance. The lower levels of Earth’s power structure were also involved, and some actions were likely initiated from those levels, but some of us got to peek behind the curtain a little and see the wizard at work.

    Learning this stuff was life-risking, and I’ll never entirely recover from my journey while I am alive; it just comes with the territory, which is not for the faint of heart.

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    Hi:

    This will be a post on the line that is crossed between Dolan’s Classified to Breakaway Realities. More than any other, it is the realm of the spooks. As John Perkins was taught, after the CIA overthrew Iran’s government on behalf of the oil companies, they began privatizing covert action, using contract agents and the like, so that there would not be a paper trail to subpoena, to provide plausible deniability, and the like. Right there is a line of demarcation between Classified and Breakaway Reality, although CIA contract agents are not all GC tools. But, getting the operatives off of the direct government payroll, like Ralph McGehee was, opens the door between Classified and Breakaway Reality.

    I remember one of Greer’s Disclosure Project witnesses, who worked at Brian’s old haunt at SAIC, and described how the money would come in the front door and immediately leave through the back door, into black projects and unaccountability. That famous meeting between Greer, Ed Mitchell, and Tom Wilson was another one of those moments when Classified Reality ran into the brick wall of Breakaway Reality.

    As I stated, my CIA contract agent relative likely worked on the fringes of Breakaway Reality. I’ll likely never reveal my relative’s identity, and I’ll probably never reveal the name of the household-name diplomat that he worked for. But it was in that blurry ground between those two realities.

    Mark stumbled over the line between Classified and Breakaway Reality, and was rudely disabused of his naïve “sneak past them” fantasy. Marchetti’s article on the CIA and UFOs shows another one of those lines between Classified and Breakaway Reality. Stich largely poked into Classified Reality. JFK may have stumbled into Breakaway Reality, which cost him his life. Brian’s life-shortening encounter seems to have also been in that blurry zone, when the American military “offered” him a job in Classified Reality on the UFO issue. He nearly died right after refusing their “offer,” and the closest that he ever came to publicly disclosing that event was in the prologue of his last book.

    The CIA delivered what was likely a GC “offer” to Dennis, and like Brian’s “offer,” the price for saying “no” can be pretty steep. People can work in Classified Reality for their entire lives and never have a clue that Breakaway Reality exists. The retail elite have almost no idea, if any idea at all. Oh, the idea makes for nice Hollywood shows, but few really consider it outside of the entertainment context.

    With this post, I just want to make it clear how unclear the line between Classified and Breakaway Reality can be. Ralph clearly worked in Classified Reality, while my friend’s underground show definitely hailed from Breakaway Reality, but there is a wide array of activities between them. It is not always easy to tell where that line is crossed, especially when the spooks operate in the shadows.

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    Hi:

    Laurence Rockefeller is the father of the modern environmental movement. In Battling Wall Street, the author made the case that the Rockefellers’ brand of environmentalism was an elitist construct that was actually kind of a Trojan horse to true environmental protection, the world’s poor had no use for Rockefeller’s style of environmentalism, and considered it another form of imperial oppression. I see the point.

    In the Fifth Epoch, the environment will be restored, Earth will be healed, and humanity will finally clean up its mess, largely as side-effects. And environmentalists flee in terror at the mere mention of the technology that can make it all happen, and they see free energy as the enemy. All of my fellow free energy travelers initially thought that environmentalists would be natural allies, and we were all blown away by their responses. I have had to wonder how much Rockefeller’s “vision” had to do with it, how intentional it might have been, and even if Rockefeller himself was being played.

    That he was Greer’s mentor is not lost on me, and Greer reported that when he hung out with the Rockefellers, he could tell that they had their own handlers. I am going to be charitable and state that Greer is sincere in his efforts, if misguided at times, but the Rockefeller connection is a strange one. We had plenty of Rockefeller encounters ourselves, none were nice ones, and running into Laurence’s mentorship of Greer was a bit bizarre.

    But when David Rockefeller announced himself to Dennis, it meant, to me, that he was not playing at the GC level. Our other encounters, and those of our fellow travelers, showed me that they don’t do that. They protect their identities, use cat’s paws, and hide in the shadows. Mr. Big does not just call you up one Sunday morning, to ask about the national ad you are running, before it ran.

    I strongly suspect that the Rockefellers were involved with the JFK hit, and may well have authorized it. Allen Dulles was a Rockefeller fixer for his entire career, despised the man who fired him, led the cover-up of his murder, and was assisted by another Rockefeller fixer, John McCloy. Another toady was “Magic Bullet” Gerald Ford, who was awarded the presidency after another Rockefeller creature, Richard Nixon, was taken out. Ford picked Nelson Rockefeller as his vice president, and Nelson came within one bullet, a couple of times, from becoming the second president who was never on a ballot, and Ford was the first. The Rockefellers were Nazi-lovers, from the Rockefeller Empire’s cartel agreement with Farben to loaning out their PR wizard, Ivy Lee, to burnish the Third Reich’s image, to Allen Dulles’s protection of people such as Karl Wolff to his “rehabilitating” Hitler’s biggest cheerleaders to staffing the CIA with the Gehlen Org, to McCloy’s commuting the sentences of the Nuremberg convicts so that they could come work in the USA, at NASA and elsewhere. The Bushes were also Rockefeller fixers, for more than a century, David Rockefeller handpicked all presidents since JFK, and David was JFK’s public policy adversary when JFK was alive.

    The Dulles and Rockefeller names come up in UFO lore from the 1950s, and nothing would surprise me. The USA is history’s most globally dominant empire, and the Rockefellers were right in the thick of it, the whole way, but were they really GCs? I doubt it. If they were at one time, those days are likely over, or their membership is “honorary,” but I doubt that there is much honor to be found there.

    But, what is interesting is that three subjects that I write about plenty – free energy, the UFO/ET issue, and the JFK hit – have the Rockefellers as key players, and those three subjects interlock on the JFK hit, with Caddy’s revelation and others, such as the alleged Marilyn Monroe wiretap document. People don’t have to be very creative to connect those dots. Laura Eisenhower’s revelation, of being recruited for a Mars colonization project, fits right in there, and is another area where Classified and Breakaway Reality seem to overlap.

    But Greer saw the Rockefellers as stooges, too, as he interacted with GC factions, and he has a dead man’s switch and other tactics, in the insanely dangerous game that he has played. Many people think that Greer is involved on the disinfo side of those issues. I think that if he is, it is unintentional, and his effort gained credibility with me when his Disclosure Project witnesses described the same technologies that my friend saw, not to mention Brian’s involvement. Dennis had dealings with Greer, and let’s just say that Greer was and still is a free energy neophyte, whose naïveté has surprised me at times, for all that he has been through, and he is barking up the wrong tree with is “mini-alien,” IMO, for instance, but I have also seen him grow over the years. I would take Dennis and Brian over Greer in a heartbeat, but they are no longer active, and I am also trying to get away from the heroic approach, anyway.

    This issue of the Rockefellers and the GCs is a big one. Because the USA is history’s most dominant empire, there will necessarily be some GC involvement, and the Rockefellers have dominated American history like no other dynasty ever did. Probably the most that I will ever reveal about my CIA contract agent relative is that he was right in the middle of that milieu. So, this has long been a subject near and dear to me.

    When the Young Warriors and others see the Rockefellers as the ultimate “bad guys” who need to be exposed and/or taken out, they have missed the boat, in a few ways, and are likely barking up the wrong tree. I see them as paranoid youngsters who will likely do more harm than good, if any good at all. At best, they will take each other out, with their paranoid warrior ways.

    Brian had what I consider the most enlightened view on the issue, and stated that any free energy effort that made the GCs and friends the focus was doomed to failure, and I have stated that for many years myself. It has to aim far higher than attempting to expose and neutralize the GCs, and I seriously doubt that it can be done. We can only make them obsolete, only the arrival of the Fifth Epoch can do that, and they know it well, too, which is why they are so vigilant and mischievous on these issues. But they have had plenty of help, from all of us, as we are our own worst enemies, lining up like lemmings and doing the majority of the GCs’ dirty work, gratis. That was my journey’s primary lesson, not that the GCs exist.

    In some ways, the rad left’s ideological objection to even the GCs’ existence is more enlightened than the right’s paranoid and oftentimes tabloid-level obsession with them, but both camps are delusional, and the pursuit of delusions will not get us over the hump, no matter how sympathetic I am to both camps. At least they are not sitting in front of the tube, beer in hand, mesmerized.

    With this post, I am going to move on to other items on my list, and Doug Caddy is next. The next three months are also going to be insanely busy in my day job, and as summer ends, I will get cracking on my essay update in earnest, in my “spare” time. That new essay on Ed and Wikipedia was my summer project, and that, like some other projects that I have completed, was a prerequisite to updating my big essay, and everything I do is with that in mind.

    So, I am going to be relatively quiet on the posting front for a while, and I might decide to just post up drafts of sections of the big essay as I rewrite them, as I have been doing for a couple of years now. I am juggling a lot right now, and one day, when this is all over, I will likely look back and wonder how I did it. If people want to call me obsessed with his “hobby” of mine, I can live with that.

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    Hi:

    Actually, I take back my statement that our Rockefeller encounters were all unpleasant. One was not bad, when a member of Dennis’s organization had a meal with a Rockefeller heir, who said that he did not know of one American family, at the dynastic wealth level, who made their fortune honestly. Amen.

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    This is a post on the difficulty of studying those subjects that this new thread tackles. That list is made for Americans. Residents of other nations would have their own list of topics to deal with, on awakening, understanding how our world really works, and achieving the awareness necessary to help an effort like mine. I don’t see those choir qualities ever changing much, if at all.

    What makes this task daunting is not the intellectual challenge so much, but the emotional one. But, also, each Epoch has its own intellectual milieu, with its beliefs, attitudes, and ideals, which are part of the culture. The transition from Second-Epoch hunter-gatherer societies to Third Epoch agrarian civilizations took thousands of years, and the differences between the two were profound. Both Epochs had their religions (1, 2), which were remarkably similar, wherever they were on Earth. The Third Epoch had professions and specialization, and the mathematics, writing, cities, and technologies (palaces and cathedrals, draft animals, metals, vehicles such as oxcarts and sailing ships, window glass, clocks, firearms) would have been utterly incomprehensible to those hunter-gatherer peoples, and the many social roles that civilizations created, with their kings, scribes, smiths, and slaves. Even a peasant’s life would be hard to comprehend.

    In a lifetime, a hunter-gatherer would have been hard-pressed to adapt to life in a village, much less a city, as it was all so alien. Although my grandfather was born in the 20th century, he lived an agrarian life, living in a sod hut as a child, riding horses, without electricity, and living a preindustrial lifestyle. He lived to see his son help put men on the Moon, and died at the dawn of the Internet. In world history, there was never so much change in a lifetime, and I saw how my grandparents were unable to shed all of their agrarian conditioning, with its rigid roles for men and women, and the like. Even my father grew up on a farm, and did not travel more than ten miles from where he was born until he was 16.

    Similarly, Dennis was raised as a migrant farmworker, escaped his agrarian roots, and shook the pillars of power on Earth, in an odyssey that is unbelievable. But even Dennis drags along his agrarian religion, joined the “Patriot” movement, which is a decidedly rural phenomenon, other Third Epoch baggage is evident in Dennis’s demeanor and beliefs, and some of that is noble and reflects virtues that the Fourth Epoch has partly lost. Even I was raised with the echoes of the Third Epoch and some of its unsavory aspects, and it has taken work to overcome it. Dennis might not truly understand much of my vision of the Fifth Epoch, even though he pursued the technology to make it possible. Dennis still has one foot in the Third Epoch, and comprehending the Fifth would be a tall task, even for him. Even people raised in the Fourth Epoch, as I was, have a hard time comprehending the Fifth. I see it all the time, in which people can’t shed their ideologies, because those are how they survive, they cherish their in-group status, and are generally unable and unwilling to see past it. They will remain stuck there until the Fifth Epoch arrives, and that is OK and normal.

    The magnitude of assisting the coming of free energy and the Fifth Epoch challenges the most grounded ego. I know the temptations and perils, and I have witnessed many casualties, from megalomania to ostracism to being taken out by the Old Guard, in many ways, including by assassination.

    To take the human animal and move it through the Epochs is a transition unprecedented in the journey of life on Earth, and no wonder a third of all ensouled species that can manipulate their environments don’t make it. Becoming a truly sentient species is no mean feat. Very few on Earth today are fit for the duty of helping manifest the Fifth Epoch, I relinquished any judgment of the situation long ago, and this post is intended to help people understand why that was. The vast majority of humanity sees no further than the horizons of their immediate self-interest, temporarily sating their addictions, and the like. They are “normal,” and I seek the extraordinary. I did not really understand what a freak I was until I began this pursuit and found very few people with the right stuff for this task, which is manifesting the biggest event in the human journey. Love is the answer and always has been, and very few have ever achieved it in any significant way. That is the primary challenge of being here.

    For the very few who are even interested in what I am doing, it is so hard to understand the reality that I encountered, much less imagine what is coming, if an effort like mine succeeds. Writing is a very limited medium for that, so I write and write, coming at the issue from this way and that, to help people understand, who did not take the life-risking path of the high road. Very few people have ever been on that path for long, and the risks can be insanely dangerous. That big-picture awareness that my work tries to help people achieve also comes with the understanding of how difficult it is to achieve, even for people who try. Nothing about this is easy, and this post is intended to help make it clear why that is.

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    Hi:

    Briefly, I heard from a pal recently, who has been familiar with Wade’s World for many years. She informed me that she was in a social setting with a bunch of people, and somebody began talking like me. While she understood what he was saying, the rest of them couldn’t begin to understand. That was the only other person besides me that she ever met who talked like that.

    That reminds me of that time when the Nightline producer thought that Noam’s ideas came from Neptune. That is how these ideas will be, in our current culture, coming from a galaxy far, far away.

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    I have had many amazing encounters on the Internet over the years, and one of the most memorable was when Doug Caddy approached me. He correctly guessed Harry Pregerson’s identity, because Doug witnessed one of Pregerson’s judicial irregularities in the 1970s, back when Pregerson was one of the Gary’s chief tormentors. As Doug informed me, Pregerson presided over the Snowden case, in his 90s. Gary saw Pregerson meet with Mickey Cohen and drug runners, back when Pregerson was Cohen’s protégé, before he became a judge. That Doug identified Pregerson more than 60 years year later was an unforgettable moment. I rarely watch YouTube for anything other than entertainment, but Doug had me watch a three-hour interview that he gave, which covered his life.

    Doug was the original Watergate attorney, roped into it by his friend E. Howard Hunt. In that interview, Doug likened it to having a piano fall on your head, as you are walking down the street. That was an amazing interview, and the punch line was the last words that Hunt ever spoke to him, when Hunt said that JFK was killed because of the “alien presence” issue. The overlap with Gary’s John Tower conversation is astounding.

    You watch that interview, and Doug has complete credibility, as he tells his story, and that “alien presence” punchline was as bizarre to Doug as it is with almost anybody else. Doug hardly knew what to make of it, but it fits in exactly with Greer’s Disclosure Project, for instance.

    Doug has tried to reopen the JFK assassination case, with other high-profile people, and Doug thinks that Lyndon Johnson was involved with the JFK hit and used his own hit man for the job. Nothing would surprise me, Stich reported that Johnson was involved with planning it, and that fits right in, but Johnson was not the mastermind. After JFK, all sitting presidents knew full well how expendable they were, and when Johnson had his visit from the “Wise Men,” his presidency was over. The oligarchy runs that show, not sitting presidents, and the oligarchy had JFK killed.

    Johnson named Allen Dulles to the Warren Commission, Dulles was its de facto leader, and the Dulles/McCloy/Ford faction dominated it. Other commissioners did not buy Ford’s ridiculous “Magic Bullet” theory, but it got rammed through, and the official position is wholly reliant on that scenario. No Magic Bullet, and JFK was taken out by a shooter team. Nobody disputes that logic.

    As far as witnesses go, and my list of people and events, for the general public, it doesn’t get any more credible or bizarre than Doug’s “alien presence” reporting.

    I think that the “alien presence” issue was more of a “last straw” issue. JFK ticked off the oligarchy way back in his early days as a Congressman, with his fiery anticolonial speeches. He was a decidedly lukewarm imperialist and capitalist (see his African policy, for instance, or his taking on the steel industry), and I have to go with Uncle Mike over Uncle Noam on the JFK hit. JFK was not far enough to the left for the likes of Noam, but he was not nearly far enough to the right for the oligarchy. He was on their hit list for a long time, before they finally decided to act. The CIA tried to take out de Gaulle just the year before, the year after they mounted a coup against him, and de Gaulle had no doubt that JFK was taken out by an operation like the one that nearly took him out. Really, it was not that much of a leap from taking out the French head of state to the American head of state, and Dulles was in the thick of all that.

    The situation with Doug’s testimony is one of those rare pieces of low-hanging fruit that got laid in my lap. There was no reason to do any homework on Doug’s background or establish his credibility. He was already quite famous, and his E. Howard Hunt testimony is at the height of credibility, getting it straight from the horse’s mouth.

    Gary had complete credibility with me, as he reported his experiences, but because I knew him, saw him in action, and the same people who ruined his life ruined mine. Stuff like Operation Northwoods’ coming out later is just icing on the cake. That really did nothing for establishing Gary’s credibility with me, but for the public, it is an amazing “coincidence” that the Northwoods plan was the Pentagon’s version of Hunt’s grand plan. Either one influenced the other, or they were thinking the same thing, as a way to fix Castro’s wagon. Interposing the plan, to turn a fake assassination into a real one, seems to be a standard spook MO. When 9/11 happened, there was a drill on something like 9/11, which seems to have confused the American military and hampered its response. That London subway bombing also had a similar exercise happen when the bombing happened. Was it all a coincidence? It takes a fervent will to believe the official stories to dismiss them all as coincidences.

    But Doug’s reporting had complete credibility with even casual observers, and it fits in just fine with the Tower conversation. The whole story will never be told on Earth, but I am sure that it is quite a tale. JFK went from lukewarm imperialist to trying to end the Cold War, and that cost him his life. I suspect that JFK’s potential revelation to the Soviet Union was related to his effort for a joint mission to the Moon, as ET encounters were expected on the Moon, according to Greer’s witnesses. JFK made repeated overtures to end the Cold War in his life’s last year, such as the test-ban treaty. The Cuban Missile Crisis was the closest that humanity has come to a nuclear holocaust, and JFK began backdoor diplomacy with Khrushchev and Castro after that near-holocaust. It scared everybody.

    JFK was the polar opposite of John Foster Dulles’s brinksmanship, and did not go in for Allen Dulles’s cloak-and-dagger ways, which comprised American foreign policy under Eisenhower.

    Doug’s testimony fits right in there.

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    Similarly, Dennis was raised as a migrant farmworker, escaped his agrarian roots, and shook the pillars of power on Earth, in an odyssey that is unbelievable. But even Dennis drags along his agrarian religion, joined the “Patriot” movement, which is a decidedly rural phenomenon, other Third Epoch baggage is evident in Dennis’s demeanor and beliefs, and some of that is noble and reflects virtues that the Fourth Epoch has partly lost. Even I was raised with the echoes of the Third Epoch and some of its unsavory aspects, and it has taken work to overcome it. Dennis might not truly understand much of my vision of the Fifth Epoch, even though he pursued the technology to make it possible. Dennis still has one foot in the Third Epoch, and comprehending the Fifth would be a tall task, even for him. Even people raised in the Fourth Epoch, as I was, have a hard time comprehending the Fifth. I see it all the time, in which people can’t shed their ideologies, because those are how they survive, they cherish their in-group status, and are generally unable and unwilling to see past it. They will remain stuck there until the Fifth Epoch arrives, and that is OK and normal.
    In terms of generational changes that occur with a shift in the outer environment, I can definitely see an end to international tensions and oil extraction occurring within one generation. The pressure would become to great for even the few die hard war worshipers to hang on.

    As for other aspects of our nature and institutions, dark aspects included, I think it's hard to say how long they will take to change. People may still enjoy competitive sports for quite some time for instance, even though they have little real world application.

    We already have the genetic potential to act in varying ways. In some males the prospect of competition can raise testosterone, while in others, it actually raises cortisol instead. I think I'm more in the cortisol response camp, as unless it's friendly competition among friends or self-imposed challenges, I've never really enjoyed competition much. If anything it makes me depressed.

    https://phys.org/news/2010-06-males-...impanzees.html

    Even with that though, I'd note that while Bonobos are far less violent than chimpanzees, they still aren't completely without aggression:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/are-men-wired-dominate-women-bonobos-suggest-not/571957
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    Quote Female bonobos are, however, known to attack males, swatting, gouging, smacking, and biting those that cross or merely annoy them. Parish described a male bonobo in Frankfurt with only eight digits intact, and another male that had had its penis nearly severed. Intrigued, Parish looked at zoo veterinary records and discovered that more than 95 percent of serious injuries were inflicted on males by females.
    Though it would be further down the road when we've become a more responsible species, I can see us choosing to modify our epigenetic expression, rather than the usual evolutionary pattern of DNA being subject to survival pressure. It could occur either via technological means, or even conscious intent. So while the patterns in bonobos and chimpanzees can give some hints, our societies in the Fifth epoch may still look far different.

    With institutions being slower to change than individuals, there could still be elements of the old world that hang on a bit, until new coalitions eventually break them up. There was an interesting case of that happening in a Mexican town, with the local residents banding together to run off corporate logging and politicians (I mention it as an example of what might happen, not to advocate mind you).

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g...e-going-better

    One thing that has often amused me in the college towns I live in is how everyone and their brother talks about how evil capitalism is, and yet, everyone is locked into relying on capitalist business interaction to get by every day. Among the GCs, leaving aside those who are more power driven or have crazy ideas about moving humanity to Mars, it may be that many of them want to change things as has often been mentioned here, but they are essentially caught in the web even more than the average person. Much of that is probably due to all the vicious security measures they are subject to. It's a level of nuance that the conspiracists on here and other sites miss in their knee-jerk analysis, such as the recent focus on trying to claim Covid is some sort of hoax.

    The difficulty of shedding institutional inertia and conditioning is very much a problem in spiritual schools and lineages as well. Among my Qigong colleagues, I notice that while many can certainly 'raise awareness' in terms of expanding perception of the lifeforce and relationship between the linear and nonlinear aspects of self, their understanding of the world and how to change it is still very bound up by Fourth Epoch conditioning.

    One baggage that many Eastern schools and lineages have from the recent Third Epoch is an unhealthy power imbalance in Master/Disciple interactions, with teachers held up on lofty pedestals. My first lifeforce awakening occurred via practicing the 'Lifting the Sky' exercise from Wong Kiew Kit's "The Art of Chi Kung" book. I used to follow his site and forum for a number of years, but over time I noticed more and more red flags of cultish behavior and hero worship.

    I eventually found a different system of Medical Qigong I now practice, but my earlier worries were confirmed upon reading the experiences of a senior instructor who defected from Wong Kiew Kit's school. The reason being, one of the other senior instructors was sexually abusing students, and the grandmaster, probably being more worried about the eastern concept of 'losing face', did not do enough to combat it.

    https://flowingzen.com/14351/why-i-l...fter-17-years/

    Along with the hero worship and abuse that crops up in schools. I feel that many of my colleagues are barking up the wrong tree in terms of trying to get mainstream acceptance for Medical Qigong and shamanic practices. My teacher's teacher, Wang Juemin, actually ran the Baoding Qigong Hospital in Baoding City, Hubei Province, China. There was a brief period during the 80-90s when the CCP of China was interested in funding Qigong research. Though dated now, there was some fascinating research papers into Qigong projection by Dr. Yan Xin.

    Most of that ended though when the Falun Gong movement started posing a threat to the Chinese Government, leading to a crackdown on Qigong, with Qigong hospitals being closed. If any research into the non-materialist element of Qigong is still being carried out in China, I suspect it has gone dark, similar to Nikola Tesla's findings.

    Rather than just being a temporary tragedy in China however, I see such a result as inevitable as long as the power structures of the Third/Fourth Epoch are still in play. Even if the spiritual aspects of Qigong did gain more mainstream backing, it would likely be diluted by further commercialization.

    So long as we rely on oil and other conventional energy sources, along with the materialist science underpinning it, spiritual teachings, spiritual movements, alternative medicine and Qigong hospitals are going to either stay fringe or be quickly crushed if they gain prominence. Things won't change until scalar/free energy technology comes into public use. When that happens, there will actually be a common foundation to work off of, and with the commercial element gradually fading, such methods can then be given the room they need to flourish.
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    I probably react like a chimp to competition, and I hated it. I have avoided any kind of competition, ever since I graduated from college. My wife hates it that I won’t play games (except against a computer, but I much preferred games such as King’s Quest, and have refused to ever play a first-person shooter), but that chimp comes out. I got ruined on that score, by the USA’s insanely competitive culture.

    Yes indeed, bonobo females can be violent, but it is relatively rare. About half of all male chimps are killed by their fellows. It has been a while since I looked into it, but at most, scientists have encountered only one instance of a bonobo’s being killed by fellow bonobos, and even that instance is questionable, as I recall. And there is no bonobo infanticide, which is common among chimps and most primates, which reflects that female dominance. Bonobo violence is orders of magnitude less than that of chimps. About the worst that most male bonobos can complain of is being “raped” by females, which does not get much sympathy from men. It all happened when some isolated chimps had their food supply double, when their gorilla competitors were no longer around.

    Yes, it is not easy to get off the tiger for the GCs, even for those who want to. They are in pretty deeply, and power-hungriness is not an easy addiction to break.

    Yes, there will likely be some cultural and institutional “momentum,” for a brief time, and your “one generation” timeframe may even be too long, on the energy-production scale. The GCs already have commercial-level gizmos, and I see that sweeping the planet in a few years, once it gets out of the box. With what happened in the few years after Hiroshima, I think that the coming of the Fifth Epoch will be quickly seen by everybody, and Fifth Epoch ways of thinking and acting will come fast. I see competitive sports becoming obsolete pretty quickly, along with so many aspects of today’s world that today’s world will quickly be seen as something akin to cave man days.

    Yes, social organization will be radically different in the Fifth Epoch. I see cities as we know them, nations, and entire professions ending. Even the nuclear family may become a quaint institution, and what will replace it will be far more enlightened.

    On your Qigong days, oh god, the “master’s” sampling the fruits is one of the oldest games going, which has manifested in the Fourth Epoch in many ways, from politician peccadillos (and operations such as Epstein’s) to New Age harems, etc. I am reminded of Seth’s recounting of his lifetime as a minor pope, and almost all that he did was get laid. Nice work if you can get it.

    Yes, you hit it on the head with how Qigong has gone underground in China. I well remember when it was up-and-coming. I say that same thing about the Western medical racket. As long as we have scarcity, those kinds of power plays are inevitable. Those rackets can only be made obsolete, by taking out their foundations, which is economic scarcity, in every instance that I know of. Only free energy can do that. I see all such efforts, to kind of sneak in alternative practices via the side door, as fraught with peril. If they are not just wiped out, such as how alternative cancer treatments still are, then they got co-opted, watered down, and often corrupted into another profit play. I have written on how it is amazing to live to see formerly banned and marginalized health practices go mainstream, and it is obviously a good thing that they have come in from the cold, and I suppose there is reason for optimism, but the racketeering impulse is deep. When “organic” foods became popular, there was an agribusiness coup attempt made on it, which partly succeeded.

    Yes, you get it, that without free energy’s forming the foundation, the rest likely won’t happen, and certainly won’t reach their Fifth Epoch potential.

    That was a brilliant post, young man.

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    Hi:

    To yesterday’s posts on chimps and competition, I try to honor both the material and mystical perspectives on such issues. According to Michael, we are in the middle of the biggest transition that an ensouled species ever makes, as it moves from the outward path to the inward path, or from Young Soul to Mature Soul awareness. For Young Souls, life is all about winning, so that competition that Chris and I wrote about is also partly the theme of the soul age that we are transitioning out of. About a third of the time, species in our position don’t make it, but destroy themselves, through environmental degradation or warfare. Such a menu of choices!

    Michael says that to acknowledge that we are primates, with the evolutionary baggage that comes with it, and also souls on a journey through the physical plane, is a key lesson to learn while here. Achieving that balance is not easy, and I have seen it all, from hard-core materialists to Bible-bangers to ungrounded New Agers, from the conspiracists to the structuralists, from the gullible to the cynical, and Michael states that there is nothing “wrong” with those lopsided perspectives, as this plane is all about making choices and learning from the ramifications of them. Even blowing up our planet is just another choice, and is “just” another aspect of our journeys from the godhead and back. It is easy to call it “just.” I prefer a different outcome.

    Those heavenly and hellish Roads worlds are simply the outcomes of the choices made by those people, and people can also choose to incarnate into a future world in which George Bush the Eighth wages war against Eastasia.

    I have found that the heart is always the key, and whether people operate from love or fear, or integrity or a lack of it, is what it is all about. As people chase their egocentric pursuits and hack at branches, if they hack at all, there is a way out of the mess, and pretty easily, when you get down to it. It can’t be the Messianic/heroic approach, and neither can it be a stampede of the semi-sentient, in their mutual self-interest, but a truly sentient approach, with sufficient integrity, is what I am trying to mount. Not many on Earth are fit for that task, but it won’t take many, either. Ten like Dennis could do it, or a hundred like Brian, and Greer is shooting for a few million with his approach, but all that my approach needs is a few thousand. Maybe it will be the “sweet spot” that can get us over the hump, and maybe not, but it is worth at least one man’s life to try it out.

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    Next on that list is Rodney Stich. Like Chris Black, Stich had his bio deleted from Wikipedia in recent years, on the “notability” issue. Stich was at about the head of the class on the whistleblowing scale. He continually fended off conspiracists, who spun the most fanciful tales with thin evidence. I think that Stich was a little too much on the anti-conspiracist end of things, but it was understandable. Stich dismissed all conspiracy theories on 9/11 other than the official conspiracy theory. I think that far more than meets the eye happened on 9/11, but I also understand that distancing one’s self from the many wacky theories is important. But a lot of babies get thrown out with the bathwater on issues such as that.

    Stich was like Ralph or Gary or Ron in that he stumbled into the darkness as part of his job. Whereas Ron kept his mouth shut, to later enlighten somebody like me, Stich, Ralph, and Gary could not remain silent and wrote books about what they encountered, which was also just the beginning for them, and they all paid dearly for speaking out. Ralph was hounded by the CIA and friends for many years, and they even harassed him in his “retirement,” while Gary survived at least one murder attempt and died destitute in exile in Oregon, and Stich was kangarooed into prison in California, very similarly to how Dennis was, if not as high-profile. Stich’s attorneys even made the same “They can’t do that!” exclamations that Dennis’s did, as they received harsh lessons on how the world really works. Mr. Big Time Attorney thought he had seen it all, and he played at the USA’s Supreme Court level, frying IRS personnel, until he defended Dennis and got put in his place.

    The prison officials repeatedly set Dennis up to be murdered by the inmates. Stich was an old man when he got kangarooed, and just being imprisoned nearly did the job of permanently silencing him, but Stich got out and kept on going, like Dennis did. It doesn’t get much more heroic than that.

    Similar to how Gary was a policeman and detective and Ron was a Justice Department investigator, Stich was an FAA investigator who was assigned to investigate multiple United Airlines crashes. The negligence that caused the crashes, as well as their covering up by the FAA and United Airlines, was how Stich’s odyssey began. He got in way over his head, and ended up in the spook world, of CIA contract agents and the like, and the black world that he uncovered could beggar the imagination, as dark pathers had a field day, screwing over the public.

    Stich was conservative in his approach, and it definitely has its honored place in the whistleblowing milieu. They don’t make them like Rodney any more. He was a contemporary of Ed, Noam, Howard, Gary, etc., from that “greatest” generation, born in the 1920s. There is virtually nothing that Stich ever reported that I had much skepticism about. Most of it was straight from the horse’s mouth, the result of deep investigative work, and the like, and his sources often ended up dead or in prison on fabricated charges. Rodney played on the high road, and it could be insanely dangerous.

    Stich worked like an investigator ideally does, and he laid out many paper trails in his work, to the extent that he could, which is not easy to do in Classified Reality and the spook world. Stich didn’t really stumble into Breakaway Reality, like so many of my fellow travelers did, but he also saw past Classified Reality, into the supra-governmental world of the spooks, who probably sometimes did work for the GCs or were on the fringes of it, like my close relative was. But Stich rarely ventured beyond the JFK hit, the fate of Paul Wilcher, and the like. Stich did not delve into the UFO issue, for instance, which is Spook Central. But Stich is in my pantheon, and among the best of the best.

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    Hi:

    I will take a little break from this current thread to comment on current events a little. My great nation is definitely going off the deep end, and we’ll see if we drag the rest of the world with us. From the postmodernist insanity to the pandemic to the increasingly deadly protests to the entire West Coast’s burning up to “only” one major hurricane hitting the USA so far this year. Oh, and two geriatric candidates for president go at it.

    I am attaching an image that my wife sent me yesterday, as she and her niece drove through Oregon the way to California, before the highway was closed. Bill’s leaked calendar for the rest of 2020 might not be too far from reality.

    There is a way out of this mess, but it will take an unprecedented act of integrity and sentience from a pretty small group of people. For the magnitude of the task - the biggest event in the human journey - I am not asking for much, not really. Chris gets it, but not many do these days. I don’t expect it to impact this election season, but I’ll keep plodding onward.

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    Now, I’ll come to the strange case of David Adair, and related issues. I recall seeing a video of Adair’s giving an interview about his Area 51 experience, given while he was driving a car. I thought it was before he gave his Congressional testimony, but Adair said that he did not talk publicly about it until his 1997 Congressional testimony. I just found the video, here, which seems to have come out in 1997, so, he likely gave that interview after his testimony. So, 1997 was when I first became aware of Adair, and I doubt that I knew much about Greer’s efforts before then. In the decade before the 1997 hearings, I was more into Budd Hopkins, Stanton Friedman, and Whitley Strieber on the UFO issue. Adair has written about his experience, here, for instance.

    Adair’s testimony is about the most sensational of anybody’s, and from the beginning, I wondered how genuine it was. I already knew about my friend’s underground technology show back then, which rivaled and maybe even exceeded Adair’s story. In the years since then, I read interviews such as this one, bought this video back in 2018, and some of it is recapped here. In 1996-1997, I also dealt with my first “skeptic,” and I eventually came to regard organized skepticism as a criminal enterprise; they certainly are not interested in the truth, and I never saw any of them go after Adair in credible fashion.

    The next year, Wingmakers came out, which is certainly fraudulent. That photo where the repository allegedly is looks like it was shot in Antelope Canyon. In the lower-right corner of the art from the “chambers,” you can actually see the artist’s signature, such as here and here. The “alien” music is New Age noodling, and so on. It is easy to throw Adair into that loony/fraudulent bin, but I have tried to be a little more circumspect. If he was telling the truth, I figured that there would be some kind of documentary trail to support at least some of it, but the only independent documentation that I am aware of has been newspaper articles from his adolescence on his rockets that he launched from pastures.

    In that recent video, I consider it established that Adair knew Armstrong’s mother and knew an official who worked for LeMay. Does that add up to his fusion rocket and Area 51 experience? I have an eidetic memory, and know only one person who I know whose memory is better than mine, but I also know that having an eidetic memory does not mean it is perfect. Adair claimed that Rudolph wrecked his brain, so he can’t do the math any more. Well, I have seen where math geniuses can lose their ability, and my brain is not what it once was, but Adair sure blunders a lot in his interviews, and that really makes me wonder about him.

    Some examples come from his Nexus interview. His account of Rudolph is wrong on several counts. Rudolph’s involvement in hanging those Dora prisoners is controversial. A document survives on the turf war between Rudolph and the SS, in which the SS reminded Rudolph that the SS was in charge of prisoner discipline, not Rudolph, so I consider Rudolph guilty of abusing the prisoners. Rudolph did not work for the Gestapo, as Adair said. Rudolph was not captured by Mossad, to die in jail. Adair seems to be confusing him with Klaus Barbie, Adolf Eichmann, or some strange amalgamation of them. In interviews, Adair said that he worked with Stephen Hawking, but pronounced his name “Hawkings.” In a presentation he gave, he said that they were playing Pink Floyd’s The Wall, but the music he played was from The Dark Side of the Moon. Adair continually made blunders like that in his interviews and presentations. If he once had an eidetic memory, it seems to be long gone, and those blunders really erode his credibility.

    I find it hard to believe that Rudolph was deeply involved in UFO stuff and Area 51, when he was so easily deported from the USA over his Nazi past. Why would he have been so easily thrown to the sharks like that? Because von Braun was dead? But, von Braun was privy to the ET issue and an alien invasion false flag, so there are enough connections to the truth with Adair’s testimony that I don’t entirely dismiss it, but call me skeptical. He has said that he will release the design specs for his fusion rocket upon his death. We’ll see about that, if I live that long.

    In his talks, Adair is quite the raconteur, as in too much of one. My experience with technical types who have encountered Classified Reality and beyond is that they don’t play raconteur, but discuss their experiences very factually and conservatively. Adair is quite an exception to that, and he says that because he was 17 when he made that fusion rocket, that he could not sign a national security oath. I am not going to call Adair a hoaxer, but I have significant skepticism about his claims. Knowing Armstrong’s mother and LeMay’s assistant does not add up to a fusion rocket and Area 51. There is a yawning gap between the facts that can be established and what Adair claims, and he gets many of his “facts” wrong.

    Another strange aspect is that the technologies that Adair described may indeed exist. What my friend saw was a close cousin to what Adair has described. I’ll await more documentary evidence. The main reason why I take any of Greer’s witnesses seriously is because of what my friend saw, my own UFO encounters, Brian’s life-shortening encounter with the American military, and the like. Greer shoots himself in the foot with his neophyte free energy efforts, his obsession with that “mini-alien,” and his Charles Atlas impressions. I have my doubts about Bob Lazar and many others who have come forward, claiming insider status, and I’ll get to those soon.

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    One of the chief differences between me and the ET/UFO people is that I don’t really care if the technology came from ETs or not. All that I really care about is that technology’s transformative potential. They can have the rest of that, and if and when the ET issue comes into the open, we can deal with it then, although the ET/free energy cover-up is history’s greatest, so if one comes into the open, the other is not far behind it. But it will be the technology that is important, not really if ETs exist and are here. The universe is a large and strange place, as is Creation. The ET presence would be “interesting,” but it would only maybe change our story, not our lives.

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    Yesterday, I finished reading Gerald Posner’s Hitler’s Children. I wasn’t too keen on his JFK book, which I considered apologetics for the Warren Commission. So, I was a bit wary of Hitler’s Children, but I had not seen the subject dealt with before at any length. Those kinds of studies, of normal people, and how the Nazi genocidists could be doting parents, are some of the more interesting aspects of it all. I am glad that I read the book.

    Of those Third Reich children in Hitler’s Children, not one of the parents was ever repentant about what they were involved with, and Mengele’s stance was particularly striking. Mengele trotted out all manner of rationale to his son that his activities at Auschwitz were noble, even heroic, as his “selections” saved so many from the gas chambers. Among Mengele’s entire family, his son was the only one who did not deny his father’s guilt, went public with it, and his entire family ostracized him for speaking out. Mengele went to great “scientific” lengths to defend his views, and his son finally gave up trying to discuss it with him. Mengele was actually self-piteous of his fate, as he lived in exile in South America.

    To one degree or another, the other parents profiled in Hitler’s Children, who were involved in the process that included the Final Solution, were of a similar mentality to Mengele. Some really were likely ignorant of the Final Solution while it happened, such as Donitz, but not one of them was remorseful. The children ranged from defiantly denying their fathers’ crimes to condemning them for it. As far as the Holocaust went, none of them knew what was happening, while it happened, mostly because they were small children at the time, but, in general, nobody in the families knew much, and few really admitted it later. They had trouble reconciling their often-doting parents with the monstrous activities that they were involved with.

    I almost hate to say it, but I have witnessed similar sophistry in my life. My great nation is in almost total denial of the awesome death toll that has been inflicted on humanity, from the Spanish and English invasions to our constant wars in Oil Country. In reading the defenses and denials, it reminded me of the rise of neo-fascism in the USA today, and the Proud Boys are merely the newest kids on that block.

    So, if Mengele could defiantly defend himself to his grave, how hard was it, really, to whitewash the backgrounds of death camp Nazis and turn them into American heroes? When will I stop reading this kind of material? I don’t know. Maybe when the American killing machine finally ceases its grisly work.

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