A Supercomputer Analyzed Covid-19, and an Interesting New Theory Has Emerged

[onawah]

I changed my wording in the post that you quoted Frank to " I begin to wonder if this is still a forum where conspiracy theories are welcome"... but you probably didn't see that.
Conspiracy theory is not my only interest or reason for being here either, but like you, I have my own personal reasons for believing what I do.
I also have a high IQ (could have joined MENSA had I wanted to) and am also an extremely sensitive and intuitive person, with very different gifts from yours, but gifts nonetheless.
I have had enlightenment experiences, both before and after I spent a year as a resident in a Zen Center and later became a student and friend of this man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills

When I was 7 years old I had a kind of nervous breakdown after receiving the SV40 polio vaccine, which was contaminated with Rhesus monkey viruses.
I certainly had no opinion or bias about vaccines at the time, but immediately after receiving it, I knew that it was doing very bad things to my body.
I got no more information about that until I was in my 50s and my doctor of Integrative Medicine did blood work for me and discovered mycoplasma in my system, which he suspected was due to the SV40, and as being the cause of my fibromyalgia.
He encouraged me to do research to confirm if that was the polio vaccine which I received, which I did, and it was.
So I know first hand that vaccines are dangerous.
You may say that that has biased me, but I think we are all biased in one way or another.
(By the way, on the subject of vaccines, Dr. Andrew Wakefield was vindicated of the charges laid against him, but then you probably know that too.)

As for 5G, thankfully, I have not experienced that yet to the degree that people who are living in places where it has been fully installed, but I know that I can be especially sensitive to frequencies, because years ago when cell phone towers started going up in the city where I was living, I began to feel like I was afflicted with Alzheimer's
I couldn't focus, couldn't remember things, was having panic attacks for no apparent reason.
I suspected it was the cell phone towers because their energy felt terrible to me, and when I moved to the country where there were none, I returned to normal.
Though I still cannot bear being close to cell phone towers, don't like having cell phones near me, and will never own one.
Electromagnetic frequencies caused by manmade technology and vaccines, which still contain many toxins, are all too easy a way to cause harm, and like so many things that the bought-and-paid-for scientists have come up with, may only be proven to be dangerous long after they have wreaked havoc on lifeforms on this planet, and the planet itself.

My sense is that yet another meltdown on Avalon is coming like the one that happened when Q was the big issue, but I don't intend to invest anymore energy than necessary in this one.
I will just continue to post information from sources that I consider to be credible, in hopes that it may help people who are looking for better answers (better than false mainstream narratives provide) save some time and effort, for as long as I have the energy and means to do so.
I get my information from many sources, I subscribe to a lot of newsletters and network with many others outside of Avalon (and youtube), and spend a good part of my days doing that, so that I can share credible info here.
I have no intention of arguing or trading insults or false assumptions with you (which do you no credit) and frankly, I have grown as weary as you sound of how things are going these days on the forum, but for different reasons.
And I will also refrain from posting on this thread again.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Truth is not always determined by Hegelian dialectics or logic. Sometimes you can only bake the cake to complete synthesis with the addition of other, more subtle ingredients, such as lived experience, common sense, and intuition. The cold spring night in 1997 when I levitated out of my bed, turned 90° in the air, then floated feet first through my bedroom wall into a swirling purple vortex to arrive on the other side in a spaceship, required a great deal more than thesis/antithesis to parse out and reconcile.

I remain open to all avenues of enquiry, and I base my hypotheses, on where those avenues lead, on far more than pure philosophical dictums. Indeed, I weigh from the heart and the soul every bit as much as from what I see as black or white in the world. I know from experience that the Universe has hidden dimensions too, and they are weirdly grey.

Sorry for tangent and for butting in.

Addendum: I am not a covid denier (my closest friend caught it and is still recovering).

[Delight]

Posted by Frank V (here)
I was not going to post to this thread anymore, but I'll make one exception and reply to this...

Posted by onawah (here)
I seem to have missed where on the forum claims that 5G is dangerous has been disproven. Please direct me there, if you would.

Contrary to your belief, dear Onawah, there are yet other information sources than what is posted here at the Project Avalon forum. And also contrary to your belief (and approach), the onus is on the one making the allegation, not on the defendant ─ in this case, the defendant being 5G.

Among other things ─ yes, many, many other things ─ I'm also an IT guy, and I've looked into 5G. I know what it is, and I know what it is not. And I have seen the most ludicrous claims made about it, including a very detailed summary of what frequencies and power bands it uses, and how dangerous those are for humans.

The only problem was that those frequencies listed were all wrong, as were the power levels, as were the effects on living and non-living matter that were claimed as associated with those frequencies ─ both the claimed frequencies and the real frequencies used by 5G. Completely, utterly and totally wrong. But if you don't know, and if you don't understand the science, then that misleading techno babble will sound very convincing, and then it'll lead you down a nightmarish rabbit hole.

I'll give you another example, albeit only somewhat tangentially related. Remember HAARP and all the bad things it can do (if you believe David Wilcock)? Well, none of that is true either.

Over at The One Truth, we've got a female member who's an engineer, and who knows all about HAARP, as well as about the Schumann resonances, and she can tell you into great detail what they are and what they are not ─ much better than I could. But if she were a member here ─ I don't know whether she is, actually, because our registration process over there is a lot simpler than it is over here, and we don't ask our members for any kind of information as part of their registration ─ and she were to share her knowledge here, then you guys would be eating her alive.

Posted by onawah (here)
Are you also saying that anti-vaxxers claims that vaccines are dangerous have been disproven?

With the exception of a few genuine yet anecdotal negative reactions to vaccines, yes.

As you may or may not know, I am a high-functioning autistic adult, and I have been immersed in the whole vaccine debate for a long time, refuting misinterpretations by so-called "autism moms", who were just as aggressive ─ if not more so ─ in their knee-jerk rejection of the science as I've been seeing here on the thread, and on other, similar threads in the past. I am very well versed on the subject.

I'll give you just an few examples of where the facts have been distorted, and where the denialists fell for it "hook, line and sinker".

Claim: Autism is caused by vaccines, and specifically, by the thimerosal ─ sold under the commercial name Thiomersal ─ used as a conservation agent in the MMR vaccine. (Thimerosal is mercury-based, which led to great controversy in the 1970s.)


Facts:

• I am autistic ─ officially diagnosed. I have never been administered the MMR vaccine. I also perfectly know which parts of my behavior and personality are psychological, and which parts are due to my autistic neurology. And I understand the science.

• Thiomersal has already no longer been included in any vaccines since the 1980s, exactly because of the controversy surrounding it.

• Autism has been proven to be an exclusively genetically originated neurological difference ─ not a disease, nor brain damage. At least twelve (12) genes responsible for an autism spectrum neurology ─ which encompasses many different manifestations, including but not limited to ADHD, synesthesia, eidetic memory, high-functioning autism, low-functioning autism, OCD and a few other conditions ─ have been identified.

• Andrew Wakefield, the hero of the anti-vaxx movement, is a proven fraud, who was found guilty of not only having falsified his research at the benefit of a law firm involved in a high-profile lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company ─ and for the record, I'm not exactly a fan of the pharmaceutical industry ─ but also of having grossly violated all ethics by injecting a number of unwitting teenagers at a party without their explicit consent, and of having treated his official patients unprofessionally and with total disregard for their wellbeing. And all of those things are documented. You don't have to believe me. Just consult with the British register for why Andrew Wakefield was barred from ever practising medicine again.

Posted by onawah (here)
And may I ask if you are a scientist, Frank?

I have said so already, Onawah ─ on this thread here, even. And in many fields too. I also happen to ─ and I hate having to say this ─ have a very high IQ, and I've got an eidetic memory. It is more difficult for me to forget something than to remember it (and for that matter, often into great detail).

Posted by onawah (here)
And do you dispute that there is a population reduction agenda afoot by the elite?

Do I dispute it? No, but only because I'm not convinced in either direction.

While I can understand that there are concerns regarding the continuing growth of the population and that there are people lobbying for a considered attempt by each individual household to please stop putting so many new children into the world, at the same time it seems illogical that the elites would want to reduce the population, because right now, the more of us there are, the higher the elites' standards of living.

They're feeding off of us like leeches. We're still useful to them, and they know all too well that if ─ say ─ some 75% of the population were to disappear, then they themselves are going to have to come down from their ivory towers and do the dirty work that we are now doing for them.

So, I'm not convinced that there would be any plans for a mass culling. But at the same time, invading countries and starting wars is always a good way to cull at least some part of the local population and keep the numbers at a rough status quo.

Posted by onawah (here)
Just wanting to get clear on some basic points, because when the Admin seems to be supporting mainstream narratives, I begin to wonder if this is still really a conspiracy theory forum.
Thanks.

Well, another two things here...

• One ─ I am one of the administrators here at Project Avalon, and when Bill hired me on the team, I didn't receive any memo from him that I was expected to abandon my personal opinions and convictions. And Bill does not expect that from me, either. He fully respects my individuality, just as he respects the individuality of every member at this forum. I am just as entitled to my personal opinion as you are, Onawah, and not only that, but I am also just as entitled as you to speak my opinion and share my knowledge, even if it disagrees with yours or anyone else's here.

• Two - Project Avalon is not a conspiracy forum, nor is it a political forum. It is a community forum, which deals with esoteric subjects such as the extraterrestrial presence (including any government or industrial cover-ups thereof), spirituality, science, social issues (including politics and sociology, albeit that there's a huge difference between discussing social-political science and choosing sides in a never-ending and exclusively US-centric bipartisan war), historical research, and so on. The conspiracy research angle is only one very small part of all of the things that Project Avalon as a community forum offers to its members and visitors.

And research is research ─ not: listening to YouTube talking heads who make up your mind for you, fostering cognitive biases and/or jerking your knees against anything mainstream. Because all this does ─ and the same goes for all of the QAnon mania ─ is create more division. One does not become enlightened or "awake" by rejecting the mainstream and choosing to be "alternative". Because then all you're doing is moving from one room on the ground floor to another room on the ground floor, and then you're still stuck in that "us versus them" paradigm. Then you're still stuck in the battle between the thesis and the antithesis.

Enlightenment is finding your way to the staircase and climbing up to the next floor, towards the synthesis. And I am sad to have to say that I am seeing very little of that anymore around here. It's not all gone, but the members exhibiting knee-jerk reactions and paranoia, the members who focus on rejecting the mainstream, and the members whose focus lies on the very parochial battle between the reincarnation of Benito Mussolini on the one hand and on the other hand, a bunch of corrupt corporate globalists who seek to turn the entire world into a corporate empire under their control, those members are the loudest bunch of them all. And it shows a completely aberrant picture of the forum to unwitting visitors ─ which is why, to name but one example, the QAnon stuff was put into a members-only section.

Project Avalon exists so as to be able to rise above all of that bickering between thesis and antithesis. Bill founded this forum as a resource for finding solutions to the problems that exist in this world ─ whichever problems they might be ─ and as an online home for people willing to go that journey with him. And look at what you're all doing to this place.

That's all I've got to say about this, and as I stated at the beginning of this post, this is my last post on this thread. So, to whomever it concerns, please don't quote me in an attempt to elicit further responses from me on this thread, because I am not going to post to it anymore. I started this thread ─ which I've also posted at The One Truth ─ with the intent of bringing an important scientific discovery and hypothesis to the attention of this community. I did not start this thread as an invitation to the naysayers to come and flaunt their cognitive biases all over the place.

And yet that's exactly what happened. I guess I should have known better. You may color me naive if you want, although I'd say that it was more innocence than naivité which prompted me to start this thread and share this information with you all.

I can only speak for myself. I would always want you to have the right to speak/not speak, share/not share your opinion. MO you seem to think(IMO from my experience with you in the past) that when you have "learned something", then that is the Truth and it is offensive to hear a challenge. That is especially so when it touches toes with a personal self identification. For all I know you may have blocked me and will never read this reply.

What we CAN ALL AGREE upon IMO and maybe you will nod head....

There is No place to "go" now if a person keeps pace with a different drummer. Used to be that I as a PROUD antivaxxer could say... Humm. I am going to move to a frontier state where I can be left alone.

There is no place to GO in a global technocracy.

I would like to say that I am ALSO able to read science.

I am NOT a freak in thinking that the "technology" which has many of us concerned about the future is no longer optional and is coming with a terrible price.

I am certain that autoimmune issues, neurological disorders, GI issues and metabolic issues are CURABLE by eliminating toxicity. I feel so sad to see so many suffering.

However I would be JUST fine with you or anyone stocking up on all the tech you like... vaccinate away, sit in front of 5G all day, drink monsanto cocktails while you play your games online. Whatever!

BUT I AM COERCED TO PARTICIPATE.

My beef with YOU and others is that you parrot "Andrew wakefield" is a quack (as if you know) AND all of YOU parrots led us here to mandatory participation in self injury "for the good of the PEOPLE (of course WE are NOT people but animals in the plan)".

Still I must champion your right to speak. IF you don't sulk off because we dare be "divergent" that is.....

[aceninja]

Posted by greybeard (here)
My problem here is what criteria did they use to verify it is the virus?
Seems like everything but the kitchen sink thrown in.
Ferguson's modelling with horrendous forecasts which have fortunately not materialised would lea me to doubt the results s in the study

Chris

COVID-19 is the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The analysis is of the genes of the actual virus itself and its affects on the human body

[aceninja]

Posted by selinam (here)
But I thought the virus hasn’t actually been isolated so how can you test for that? It’s been proven the COVID test can’t even test for the virus. I can’t take the report at face value. Would need to know the criteria involved.

You cannot create a test for the virus if it hasn’t been isolated :-). You can easily verify independently that is has indeed been isolated.

When evaluating who/what to believe, it is important to trust things you can independently verify, otherwise you are easily lead astray.

[One]

Mercola article based on the data.
"These 10 pills could obliterate COVID-19, where's the media?"
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...ypothesis.aspx

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by One (here)
Mercola article based on the data.
"These 10 pills could obliterate COVID-19, where's the media?"
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...ypothesis.aspx

@ onawah, this is a detailed, interesting and typically intelligent Mercola article. (You're a subscriber, as am I, so you may well have already read it.) And you know how rock-solid and reliable Dr Mercola is.

But you started your Scientific Materialism versus Truth thread largely in criticism of the newly published Bradykinin hypothesis. You can't have it all ways!

greybeard/Chris often says he "just doesn't know", and claims he's merely posting information. But that's intellectually weak.

What's your own position here?

[selinam]

Posted by aceninja (here)

Posted by selinam (here)
But I thought the virus hasn’t actually been isolated so how can you test for that? It’s been proven the COVID test can’t even test for the virus. I can’t take the report at face value. Would need to know the criteria involved.

You cannot create a test for the virus if it hasn’t been isolated :-). You can easily verify independently that is has indeed been isolated.

Actually I have looked for this information and have not found it yet- so maybe not so easy. Have you found a verifiable source?

When evaluating who/what to believe, it is important to trust things you can independently verify, otherwise you are easily lead astray.

That’s right. I can’t verify this is an actual novel virus because the health community can’t agree either. I can’t verify that Bill Gates has the medical background to inform the public on what they need to do for their health. All I can verify is the info from all sources is so contradicting that no-one seems to know the actual truth.

[thepainterdoug]

Frank

I dont doubt your story and experience with this illness. Im sorry for your suffering. You may know Im not a great supporter of this virus pandemic or its necessity. Im open to being wrong, and really just want the truth of things.

Its a strange virus, supposedly so contagious, yet so few in my wide circles and beyond have gotten it or died. Seems mainly older people with co morbidities.Young people and children hardly effected.

But why the censoring of a variety of Doctors and the alt remedies? If people were truly in fear of a dangerous deadly virus, wouldnt they be open, excited and grateful, to hear about Hydroxychloriquine or Ivermectin ? Why would these several ready to go and affoardable remedies be marginalized ? Why so many doctors including Oxford doctors be silenced?
This is what smells of agenda to me.
37 years ago my young sister was diagnosed with Aids. The doctors demanded she go on AZT or she had no hope. My mom and dad were at total loss of what to do and I screamed at the top of my lungs to buy her a coffin if they put her on AZT. AZT killed all those aids patients.
I kept her off AZT, we went to alt meds and kicked it along and then got her to Italy for Hyperthermia. Today she is still with us and living large while the guy she shared a needle with has been deceased for 37 years..
I tell you this because the Med industry and the scientists can be wrong and their science can be driven with $$$ agendas in mind. Im not a doctor, but put stock in my intuition and common sense. There is something very wrong with this "pandemic" reeks of world politics. Why fudging the Covid, Pnemonia and Influenza numbers? And this is in no disrespect to you Frank. Obviously there is something to this virus. It does exist. But to this degree of measure?? thanks

[Frank V]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Frank

I dont doubt your story and experience with this illness. Im sorry for your suffering. You may know Im not a great supporter of this virus pandemic or its necessity. Im open to being wrong, and really just want the truth of things.

Its a strange virus, supposedly so contagious, yet so few in my wide circles and beyond have gotten it or died. Seems mainly older people with co morbidities.Young people and children hardly effected.

But why the censoring of a variety of Doctors and the alt remedies? If people were truly in fear of a dangerous deadly virus, wouldnt they be open, excited and grateful, to hear about Hydroxychloriquine or Ivermectin ? Why would these several ready to go and affoardable remedies be marginalized ? Why so many doctors including Oxford doctors be silenced?
This is what smells of agenda to me.
37 years ago my young sister was diagnosed with Aids. The doctors demanded she go on AZT or she had no hope. My mom and dad were at total loss of what to do and I screamed at the top of my lungs to buy her a coffin if they put her on AZT. AZT killed all those aids patients.
I kept her off AZT, we went to alt meds and kicked it along and then got her to Italy for Hyperthermia. Today she is still with us and living large while the guy she shared a needle with has been deceased for 37 years..
I tell you this because the Med industry and the scientists can be wrong and their science can be driven with $$$ agendas in mind. Im not a doctor, but put stock in my intuition and common sense. There is something very wrong with this "pandemic" reeks of world politics. Why fudging the Covid, Pnemonia and Influenza numbers? And this is in no disrespect to you Frank. Obviously there is something to this virus. It does exist. But to this degree of measure?? thanks

Doug, I had promised myself not to post on this thread again unless another scientific discovery regarding this virus were to come up that I felt was going to be important enough to share. But I will make an exception for you now ─ one exception, because I will not be drawn into any debates regarding the validity of the threat. We are way past that now. The virus is real, and it does kill ─ selectively, apparently, but it kills nevertheless. However, the danger does not lie in the fatality rate of the virus. The danger lies in how rapidly this thing spreads. And the more rapidly it spreads, the more potentially fatal victims there will be. That has so far always been the concern with this disease.

Now, as for why the numbers in the USA say this or that, and the whole controversy around it, and the he-said-she-said, that is something I do not want to get into. I live in Europe, and we have our own doctors, our own mainstream and alternative media, and our own ways of dealing with this ─ each country on its own, independent from the European Union, and in fact in quite selfish ways too. Both France and Germany for instance were caught trying to reserve all of the test kits for themselves, and to hell with the other European countries.

I will however tell you one thing, and it applies to far more than just the coronavirus pandemic. It's called Hanlon's Razor, and it goes something like...

"Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity."

[thepainterdoug]

Are you calling me stupid?? just to understand your intentions? Are my questions and views not fair? Im certainly not the only one here.

And your explanation is fine and adequate with me.///

" The danger lies in how rapidly this thing spreads. And the more rapidly it spreads, the more potentially fatal victims there will be. That has so far always been the concern with this disease."

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Frank V (here)

"Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity."

Yes, I do think that often applies to various things.

But re Covid, way too much has gone badly in too many spectacular ways all over the world for this to be some kind of global super-aggregation of "stupidity".

From the release of the virus in China (or wherever it first came from! It'd been found to have been in Barcelona as early as March 2019), to the near-criminal actions of the WHO, to the co-ordinated suppression of valid simple treatments, to the censorship of informed discussion, to the falsification (exaggeration) of statistics, to the "incompetence" of the CDC...

...it's malice, globally organized at a very high level.

The virus is real, and the research paper about the Bradykinin storm looks very plausible. And it's pretty much known (at least by some!) that the virus was bio-engineered. Whether or not it was designed as a weapon, it's acted like one. Some people get badly affected, whether or not it's fatal for them. It's been gene-sequenced 52,592 times. There are some well-researched cheap-and-easy treatments (and do-it-yourself preventative measures) that really work. That's the science.

But the rest is malice.

[Frank V]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Are you calling me stupid??

No, Doug. I was calling the CDC stupid. And the media. And Donald Trump.

[thepainterdoug]

Frank I wish you well and fill us in on the complications that may arise./ d

[onawah]

I saw the article last night and thought about posting it, but I was too tired, and figured someone else surely would.
I'm afraid you still haven't understood my reasons for posting the Scientific Materialism thread.
It wasn't to dispute the Bradykinin hypothesis.
If you're really interested in my reasons, please go back and read that thread again.
I think I was pretty clear.
I think the other members who have posted there have largely understood my motivations, so perhaps reading them would be a good idea as well.
As stated, I already spend far too much time on this forum than is good for me, and I really don't want to get caught up in debates or personality conflicts, which I find exhausting.
If I remain, it will be because it's a forum that is widely read, and my hope is that the info I post will help others to arrive at valid conclusions.

I think you really should engage Greybeard directly if he returns, if you still have an issue with him, and not put me in the middle.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by One (here)
Mercola article based on the data.
"These 10 pills could obliterate COVID-19, where's the media?"
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...ypothesis.aspx

@ onawah, this is a detailed, interesting and typically intelligent Mercola article. (You're a subscriber, as am I, so you may well have already read it.) And you know how rock-solid and reliable Dr Mercola is.

But you started your Scientific Materialism versus Truth thread largely in criticism of the newly published Bradykinin hypothesis. You can't have it all ways!

greybeard/Chris often says he "just doesn't know", and claims he's merely posting information. But that's intellectually weak.

What's your own position here?

update: For what it's worth, I never disputed that there is a virus, nor did I dispute that there isn't.
I don't think that scientists really understand all there is to know about viruses or other factors which may be causing what they've decided is viral.
Nor do I think that the statistics on testing or masks are reliable. See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1377275
But I do think that science is being used to further a murderous NWO agenda, and many scientists have been coerced or deluded or corrupted by the creators of that agenda.
If one can really connect the dots, I think that becomes clear enough.
And it seems to me that is what's most important, so I don't care to quibble about the details.
When I look at all the grievous mistakes that science has been making right up until the present, I'm reminded of the segment of Star Trek where Kirk and Spock and Bones time travel back into the past (our present), to a hospital, and Bones is righteously incensed at the deplorably harmful treatments being administered to patients there.
Dr. Toni Bark and Dr. Cheryl Tenpenny have a revealing conversation about such mistakes in this 7th segment of "Vaccines Revealed" free online until tomorrow night.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-xSDyLNVo

[DaveToo]

Posted by Frank V (here)


Um, that's not how it works, Onawah.

5G has been sufficiently tested and found harmless ─ yes, harmless, because it operates at less power than 4G. It merely uses a higher and wider frequency band, which makes it more effective and efficient at transferring lots of digital data, and the roll-out plan involves more antennae, but ─ again ─ they will be weaker. One of the intents is to make the covered area per antenna smaller, so as to provide a higher-resolution grid, which (among other things) aids in navigation ─ e.g. for self-driving vehicles.

Anyway, anyone who makes a claim that contradicts the established scientific facts is the one who has to provide the evidence, not the other way around. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. It is up to the Flat-Earthers to prove that Earth would be flat, not up to us to prove that it is round.

You mean like the established scientific facts the telecom industry has neglected to establish?
I'm referring to their admitting that they have not done any scientific studies on the health effects of the 5G equipment they are rolling out all over the world.

How can we make a claim that contradicts the established scientific facts about 5G when the telecom industry is afraid to establish the facts?

Note: After I made my post above, I read another of your posts Frank, that came later, in which you stated you would not reply to any comments addressed to you.
So I will keep my post as is, but for the benefit of others.