The Nature of Evil

[donk]

You can't blanket categorize it. I am a being that exists by getting energy from light: on the physical level, at the most basic it comes from the "stolen sunlight" from the plant life at the bottom of the food chain, working its way up. I'm sure on the spiritual level it's even more obvious but I'm not sensitive or able to describe that level of energy exchange. But anyways, a being such as myself finds anything that derives its energy from fear, our emotional reaction to a lack of light, to us--that is evil.

Something that does "evil"...a vampire taking our energy, well to that entity, our evil is "good".

Wouldn't this make sense, as natures abhors a vacuum. If there's an energy, there's an entity that consumes it to live, isn't there? When it manifests or influences or is emulated by a "light" being, I think that is what we humans consider "evil"

[The Potter]

EVIL is to LIVE backwards.
It is also VILE and a VEIL to truth.

Funny how anagrams relate.

[markpierre]

Evil is intentionally representing what is untrue, as the truth. That's exactly what and all it means.
You can read that on a lot of levels, including ultra personally. I think that's where the wormhole is.

But it is a state of mind. In a spectrum between gratification and fear. It's best not to be hanging around in that spectrum at all.
I'd be working hard right now on fear.

[Finefeather]

Evil is all mistakes as to the Law, particularly hatred in all its countless shapes. Everything evil that the individual meets with is his own work...L

The Law is the summation of all laws of nature and laws of life. All monads are subject to the Law. Omnipotence is possible only through absolutely faultless application of the laws in their entirety...L

Take care
Ray

[sigma6]

Evil is not real, but absence of knowledge of consequences.
It is a perverted understanding of the cosmic order.
Enlightenment gets rid of desires to do harm, or be vengeful.

lots of good posts... I latched onto this as the first one closest to my mind... whenever I have analyzed "evil" and broke it down, and in the perspective of time and context. It turned out there was a lot of fear and insecurity, which became denial and repression before transforming into prejudice, greed, snobbery, vindictiveness. The classic bullies of all my youth, all turned out to be emotionally troubled youth living in disfunctional environments (families)

If these initial thoughts are allowed to fester, with no guidance, they root themselves and mutate into conditioned forms of behaviour that allow the person to operate in some manner. Unfortunately it is operating at an incredibly disfunctional and inefficient level that is ultimately self sabotaging and destructive. So yes, ignorance in action, or manifested after much cultivation in a dark place.

Thus why we are given the simple wisdom of the fruit of the Spirit (lifeforce)... [which] is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance:

And I would add we can no longer take for granted with all the mis-information and glorification of gangsters, mobs, Machiavellian-ism, and psuedo relativistic ratlonalizations... and that is the assumption of truth as a fundamental value and reference point. All these 'fruits' will have no root without the simple appreciation and contemplation of truth as a logical self evident concept, a philosophy. As the great protector of thought and reason.

I see people justifying corrupting everything today because they are not truthful with themselves. And that creates the soil where the first seed of evil has an opportunity to grow.

[sigma6]

Posted by Justintime (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
Evil that exist is when one breaks natural law, what is natural law????

Regards

roman

I don't think there is such a thing as natural law. Then again, to me when I think of natural law, I think of law of the jungle and I don't think this is what you mean.

Natural Law is simply another way of saying "science" of course nowadays in the age of deception. I have to qualify that... Science today is grossly contaminated by commercial interests. But consider something more akin to the spirit of Sir Francis Bacon's idea of science as the study and unraveling of the nature of the world around us. Thus a Law of Nature, or natural law...

Today many words are corrupted, Law itself is a corrupted word. Today when people think of laws they are actually thinking of "rules" "regulations" "codes" (secret language?) all these are now sometimes called "statutory laws" (OXYMORON) and to make them more substantial they re-codify actual laws under the same category... So you if you accept that as your source and reference, you have the obligation of the actual law, but because it is expressed from a statutory source, you have actually been denied the corresponding rights that used to go along with it...) replaced with retractable "benefits and privileges" (bye bye inalienable rights, now you must learn how to beg, ie. make application, plea, request, get on your knees...)

We live in an age of unbelievable manipulation and deception... don't ever stop being on the lookout for it...
You could call it the age of institutionalized EVIL.

[ghostrider]

I like to think of it this way, hot -cold, up -down, right-left, ya know... if you only felt cold water, how would you know hot water existed ??? the one proves the other...everything has a balance, if there is good there must be Evil ... but it's definition would vary depending upon perspective ...

[Amanda]

Evil - I used to think I knew what evil was. I used to think that evil was opposite of all that is good and right and in a way that still holds true for me. At present I am experiencing evil - it is definitely alive and holds a global community in its spell. Those who have entered the awakened state are still subject to its influence - which is quite a test of strength.

I think of the biblical quote - By their deeds you will know them. It is so true. I am currently walking through evil as my life has been completely destroyed - all because I obeyed the law and attempted to protect Children. I now know that evil is all about desecrating respect and dignity and many other human qualities. Evil is definitely seeking love - as written by another poster - however seeking love by all the wrong methods.

Psychology teaches us that rape is actually about power and stealing is actually about the need for attention. When evil rapes and steals the psychology makes sense. I think of all the Indigenous peoples who have had their land, their families and culture raped and stolen. Could it be that evil is actually seeking love and respect but has lost their way? Sometimes I wonder whether the damage from evil can be undone but I truly believe that we are nearing a moment in time when evil will not have any more energy to continue to wreak havoc and will slump exhausted at the feet of our Creator - our God - the Universe and be transformed. For now we have to live with evil and walk forward towards the light knowing that is all that is required for evil to run out of their lost, loveless and disrespectful energy.

Much Peace - Amanda

[turiya]

Posted by bogeyman (here)
What the nature of evil, is it open to interpretation according to ones perception, or it is state of mind, a set of moral parameters, or from a spiritual perspective, a energy source of some kind?

What is the nature of evil?

Within this line of questioning, its been presupposed, precluded, that 'Human Nature' is essentially not evil, so how could people be so evil? However, I would like to submit that the real question is:

What is the essence of Human Nature?



We live in a dichotomy, a world of duality, whereby the opposites only appear to be opposites. In reality, the opposites are complementary to each other. To be human is to be both - saint & sinner - they come together. To not accept this about human nature - to only want the virtuous part, to only want to be identified with that which is goodness, then others will have to take on the role of being the sinner(s). In this way, the saint continuously creates the sinner.

Is it... a energy source of some kind?

To be human is to have desire.

Whatsoever is known comes out of the past... that which is known is that which has already been experienced. There is a strong force to overcome, in order to move into the unknown. The force doesn't come from the past, or from others, but it is the nature of the human mind to become strongly attached to the past, to that which is known. That is why the mind of man becomes so attached to ancient symbols, images, myths, legends, archetypes, ancient civilizations, etc. Power is not in these things of the past, but because many minds are attached to these things.

Is it possible to desire for change?

One cannot desire for something that is unknown. That is not how desire works. Only the known can be desired for. Hence, desire for change, for an unknown future, is not possible. One is only capable of projecting a future as it relates to the past, for a previous experience to again be repeated. So desires are always repetitious, they repeat, they are circular. They come from the past, from that which has already been known, already experienced before, and is then projected in future - to be repeated again.

As it has been said in a previous post:
Awareness is the most inconvenient thing...

The more something is repeated, the more easy & convenient it becomes to do. Repetition can certainly make for a convenient life. That is the reason why ritual is appealing.

The basic thing about something that is a convenience, is that the more it is repeated, the less awareness one needs to live a life. So, awareness is the most inconvenient thing. Repeating something over & over again, and one can almost do it in one's sleep, and many, if not most, are living very sleepy lives.

To desire for change…... is a contradiction in terms. Rather, the basic thing is to become more aware. In becoming more aware, one will find he is becoming more & more free of the past. Breaking free of habits, rituals, conveniences, will free-up one's energy to move more into that which is unknown.

In becoming more aware, change happens on it own accord.

turiya

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[4Talismans]

Like Turiya said, Evil is simply being unconscious. Being briefly awakened is not enough. If we are not actively seeking awareness, compassion, and real freedom, every moment of every day, then we are contributing to the collective unconsciousness that makes evil possible.

[ROMANWKT]

Natural law, gravity is part of natural law, its what cannot be changed, its what is. man cannot change it, its here with or without man.

Regards

roman

[skippy]

Posted by turiya (here)
We live in a dichotomy, a world of duality, whereby the opposites only appear to be opposites. In reality, the opposites are complementary to each other. To be human is to be both - saint & sinner - they come together. To not accept this about human nature - to only want the virtuous part, to only want to be identified with that which is goodness, then others will have to take on the role of being the sinner(s). In this way, the saint continuously creates the sinner.

Posted by 4Talismans (here)
Evil is simply being unconscious. Being briefly awakened is not enough. If we are not actively seeking awareness, compassion, and real freedom, every moment of every day, then we are contributing to the collective unconsciousness that makes evil possible.

In the same line, when we continue to consider evil as something external, then, one day, this thing will hit us in the neck like a boomerang. Then there are multiplier effects at a collective unconscious level, creating such things as AI and so on. Carl Jung's shadow concept is interesting while it shows a way to integrate the dark side before it disintegrates you from the outside. Being human is about recognizing the potential of infinite good and infinite evil in oneself.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VNKvbT_3b0s

[4Talismans]

That is why horror and evil are such huge money makers in the theaters. We are attracted to that which we deny. "What you resist, persists". Of course it's natural to be frightened by what we are capable of, I most certainly am.
But I came to realize that I have free will.
I can choose to be good.
I can choose to do no harm.
I can choose to actively seek kindness, compassion and love.
The more we deny our shadow selves, the more we call our collective shadow up into the dreamfield, where manifestation happens.
Then we will point at the monster (Jeffrey Dahmer for instance) that we collectively created.
If we are all one, then we are Jeffrey. He is us.

In the same line, when we continue to consider evil as something external, then, one day, this thing will hit us in the neck like a boomerang. Then there are multiplier effects at a collective unconscious level, creating such things as AI and so on. Carl Jung's shadow concept is interesting while it shows a way to integrate the dark side before it disintegrates you from the outside. Being human is about recognizing the potential of infinite good and infinite evil in oneself.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VNKvbT_3b0s

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[Michi]

A very timely dialogue clip on the subject of EVIL:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E8N3alIuLfA

Foster Gamble goes over the sources of Evil. And it takes really quite a miracle to turn how things are currently going - around!