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    WAKE UP AMERICA! Bold Billionaire Offers $1 Million Bounty
    for Dominion’s, Eric Coomer’s Comeuppance


    Alki David, Billionaire Businessman, Podcaste

    Want to make a quick million? All you have to do is tell the truth that could save America.

    In a world on the edge of collapse into global technocratic authoritarianism, that’s how easy it is to be an instant hero right now. And a millionaire.

    Alki David is a billionaire mogul and podcaster. He is also, apparently, not an anti-American globalist. That makes at least one. We must celebrate him and get his message out, despite knowing little else about the man. Perhaps more will follow and he can give us all more details about his bounty. We would love to hear from him.

    The Mogul retweeted a story from ShockYa.com (a site that is affiliated with his FilmOn.com media site). Mr. David is upset about the state of America and The West due to governmental Covid overreach and election fraud. He admonishes us all to “WAKE UP AMERICA!”

    To this end, he is offering a $1,000,000 bounty for any “irrefutable evidence that the Dominion Voting Systems and its employee Eric Coomer produced fraudulent votes during the 2020 election.” A cool million dollars isn’t quite enough to get you a dumpy house in Silicon Valley’s Bay Area that a Tech Mogul might have. However, it just might get you about 2000 Playstation 5s or a few hundred thousand rolls of toilet paper for the government’s coming Covid-pocalypse.

    But, wait! There’s more!

    According to the article, the tech and cannabis billionaire also “offered $1000 to anyone who went to their local hospital in a supposed COVID hotspot and filmed the ER and ICU admittance areas. He showed some of the winning entries on his Instagram Stories: Empty parking lots and waiting areas in Germany, the UK and America.”

    PR Stunt or not, America appreciates and desperately needs honest, courageous displays of capitalism in defense of American freedom and society, and we hope this one is honest and legitimate.

    We know that Dominion is one of the companies accused of massive fraud in numerous lawsuits around the country stemming from the 2020 election. But who is Eric Coomer?

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    https://www.shockya.com/news/2020/12...r-fraud-intel/

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    Live- House votes on $2,000 Stimulus



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    i really feel that Nashville signaled "something" ... it was an "internal" thing that they are working out or "battling" out ....

    now another signal .. all government twitter accts have gone black and white ...

    anyone know what this could mean?

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Speculation is rife about the truck bomb explosion in front of the AT&T building in Nashville, Tennessee Christmas morning, leaving three people injured and millions without internet and cell phone service in several states.
    I don't understand why AT&T internet and cell service was still working fine for many hours after the blast, and didn't go out until much later in the day (according to a friend who lives there).

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    [B]House sides with Trump, approves $2,000 stimulus checks; Georgia lawsuit seeks forensic audit /B]
    16,263 views•Streamed live 57 minutes ago 12/28/20
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    "Congress moves to vote on whether Americans will get larger stimulus checks, the F-B-I releases photos of the suspect involved in the Christmas Day explosion in Nashville, and an analysis of New Jersey's voter database shows some troubling anomalies: more voters than eligible citizens, centuries-old voters, and more."



    (The $2000 stimulus check amendment just passed in the House, now it goes to the Senate. )
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    the video gives a complete breakdown of the Bill that was just passed. The announcer says that the President signed it, to avoid a government shut down that would have taken place at midnight tonight. He didn't have much back up in congress ... almost no one stood besides him

    Lindsay Graham was with the President on Christmas morning encouraging (strong arming him) to sign the bill.

    the bill includes:

    $7 million for Reef Management

    $25 million to combat Asian Carp

    $2.5 million to count the number of Amberjack fish in the gulf

    $3 million to Poultry Production Technology

    $2 million to research the impact of downed trees

    $566 million to FBI Construction projects

    $10 million to Gender Programs in Pakistan

    @ 10:20 it shows a woman fed up with the mask ....
    worth the watch
    and worth learning


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    House Votes to Override Trump’s Veto of 2021 Defense Policy Bill


    The House voted late Monday to override President Donald Trump’s veto of a defense spending bill for 2021.

    The override measure, passed by a 322-87 vote, is now headed to the Senate for consideration, where Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has indicated that his chamber would vote on Tuesday to override Trump’s veto. The override would need a two-thirds majority to succeed.

    In the event that the president has vetoed the bill, and the House has voted to override the veto, the Senate would have the opportunity to process a veto override at that time,” McConnell previously said on Dec. 22.



    Mitch McConnel and his wife Elaine Chao. Elaine Chao is currently under investigation for Shipping Business with CHINA


    The bill, the 2021 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), outlines the national security policy for the Department of Defense in 2021 and authorizes $740 billion in spending. It passed the House on Dec. 8 by a vote of 335–78, and later passed the Senate on Dec. 11 by a vote of 84–13.

    Trump vetoed the bill on Dec. 23, saying that it fails to remove Section 230 of the Communications and Decency Act, among other reasons. Section 230 provides blanket liability protections for social media and tech companies.

    “Unfortunately, the Act fails to include critical national security measures, includes provisions that fail to respect our veterans and our military’s history, and contradicts efforts by my Administration to put America first in our national security and foreign policy actions,” the president said in a Dec. 23 statement. “It is a ‘gift’ to China and Russia.”

    There’s no mention in the NDAA defense bill of Section 230 of the Communications and Decency Act, he noted. Trump said the 1996 law “must be repealed,” as it facilitates “the spread of foreign disinformation online,” making it a “serious threat to our national security and election integrity.”

    Both Republicans and Democrats have called for Section 230 to be repealed. Conservatives have said it enables social media companies such as Twitter and Facebook to make discretionary choices in censoring dissenting views, while some progressives have said the law fails to take “hate speech” posted on those platforms into account.

    Trump, in his statement, noted that the NDAA doesn’t support his ability to “withdraw troops from Afghanistan, Germany, and South Korea.”

    “Not only is this bad policy, but it is unconstitutional. Article II of the Constitution makes the President the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States and vests in him the executive power. Therefore, the decision regarding how many troops to deploy and where, including in Afghanistan, Germany, and South Korea, rests with him. The Congress may not arrogate this authority to itself directly or indirectly as purported spending restrictions.”

    The House late on Monday also voted to increase COVID-19 relief direct payments from $600 to $2,000, a measure supported by the president.

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    those who wish to communicate their opinion to McConnell may do so here:

    Phone: (202) 224-2541
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    The Church and State Dream - December 19-23, 2020 by Dana Coverstone 16:28

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    this man is speaking up for ALL of us ...

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    they say that animals and children have an innate sense of the nature of people, here is the President's son's reaction to judge Roberts ..

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    FIRESIDE CHAT WITH LIN WOOD- EPISODE 3 | SHINING A LIGHT ON THE TRUTH ABOUT
    CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS, JOE BIDEN, OBAMA, THE CLINTONS, BILL GATES, MIKE PENCE, & MORE




    if recording does not come up, it can be heard here

    SHOW NOTES
    Lin Wood shares why NOW is time to shine a light of truth on Chief Justice Roberts, Justice Stephen Breyer, Joe Biden, Obama, Clintons, Bill Gates, Mike Pence, Mark Meadows, Pat Cippoloni, President H.W. Bush, President George W. Bush & George Soros.

    Website: www.FightBack.Law

    NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.” – Matthew 5:11

    Lin, how was your Christmas?

    Lin, on Christmas, a Bomb in Nashville hit AT&T center causing internet & power outages in SE. Police all night at WH. Cyberattack on an Air Force base…what was happening?

    FACTS: WHY NASHVILLE? WHY ATT?
    Room 641A is a telecom intercept facility operated by AT&T for the U.S. NSA, as part of its warrantless surveillance program, Patriot Act.

    What part of the country does this “hub” cover? GEORGIA.
    Something to think about in regard to the AT&T and SunGard Data Center that could have been the actual Nashville target. Data centers are not self-contained, especially when operated by companies like these. They are replicated in multiple locations, typically geographically dispersed to safeguard against national disaster. You can lose a data center….even a region…and the data is safeguarded elsewhere.

    WATCH the Video Showing the Nashville EXPLOSION –

    Lin, you wrote, “Many business & political leaders of both parties, lawyers, & JUDGES are really worried about Sidney @SidneyPowell1 being named special counsel, @EmeraldRobinson!

    READ: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tesn8qg2t...7Y4dHSDoa?dl=0

    Lin, Sidney Powell just released 270 page pages of evidence related to the 2020 Election Fraud…what is the significance of this?

    ACTION: Download the 270 pages of evidence today by texting me directly at 918-851-6920.

    Lin, you wrote, “Covid-19 was a planned attack on our country – a PLANDEMIC. However, the Real PANDEMICS are:

    (1) COMMUNISM infects leaders of both parties.

    (2) PEDOPHILIA infects high officials, politicians, business leaders & celebrities.

    (3) Child sex TRAFFICKING.

    I Would love for you to share your thoughts on this?

    Lin, you Tweeted out, “There seems to be a pandemic of poorly reasoned rulings by Title III judges in 2020 election fraud cases. I wonder how many of those judges are familiar with the surveillance program named “Sunset?” Or what that illegal spy program revealed about them?” What is the Sunset program?

    Lin, on Christmas Day, there was an explosion in Nashville, what happened and why is this significant?

    Lin, there was a fire at City Blue Imaging in Rochester, NY!

    Why is this significant?

    NOTES: Did City Blue print any ballots used in 11/3 election? If so, would the City Blue fire concern you given Nashville/AT&T explosion or is it just me?”

    https://www.wxxinews.org/post/listen...vastating-fire

    Lin, you Tweeted out, “It is time to shine red hot light of truth on Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Stephen Breyer, Joe Biden, Obama, Clintons, Bill Gates, VP Mike Pence, Mark Meadows, Pat Cippoloni, Bush 41 & 43, George Soros, Cocaine Mitch, etc.”…I’m going to throw out a name, and I would love for you to share what all Americans need to know about this person:

    Republican – Chief Justice John Roberts

    Lin you Tweeted out, “I cannot imagine the pressures felt by the Chief Justice of U.S. Supreme Court. Tough job! Bet it is even tougher when you know that Nancy Pelosi, Rod Rosenstein, John Podesta, & John Brennan have a damning & incriminating recording of you! Tough way to earn a living!!!”

    Democrat – Vice President Joe Biden

    https://timetofreeamerica.com/#biden

    Democrat – President Barack Obama

    Republican – Pat Cippoloni

    Republican – Mark Meadows

    Republican – Georgia Governor Kemp

    Republican – George H.W. Bush 41

    Republican – George W. Bush 43

    Jake Tapper of CNN –


    https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1343668619989934080?s=20

    George Soros

    Bill and Hillary Clintons

    Bill Gates


    NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “Seems like a pretty straightforward question capable of a yes or no answer. What was Bill’s answer? I know mine: Bill Gates is a corrupt & evil serpent & should NEVER be trusted. He should be in prison.” – Lin Wood –

    Controversial Bill Gates-funded plan to dim the sun’s rays moves forward quietly
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/bill-g...ZmN588Nad1iyBQ

    Republican – Vice President Mike Pence

    NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “Eyes are beginning to focus on VP Pence @vp.

    What kind of man is he? He professes a strong faith in God. If true to his professed faith, Pence will NEVER certify a lie. @realDonaldTrump won. Joe Biden cheated. We will soon learn much about Pence.” – Lin Wood

    Cocaine Mitch

    FBI Director Christopher Wray

    You Tweeted Out, “Time flies when you are busy speaking the truth! Time for lunch break. But first, a few more truths:

    1. FBI Director Christopher Wray must be fired immediately.

    2. Research @kslaw law firm connections with Wray, @RodRosenstein & Sally Yates.

    3. Birds of a feather flock together.”

    Lin you are a celebrated attorney, and on your Twitter feed you wrote out some tough questions that you would love to ask Justice John Roberts under oath, the first one is, “Just before rendering yet another inexplicable anti-conservative vote, you claim you suffered a fall at Chevy Chase Country Club requiring hospitalization. Why did you not report the fall to the public for several days?” Lin, share with our listeners why you believe this question is important to ask Justice John Roberts?

    https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/...292627457?s=20

    Lin, your next question that you wanted to ask Justice Roberts under oath is,:

    “Identify all witnesses to your fall at Chevy Chase Country Club.”

    Asking for a friend.

    Next you asked, “What injuries did you suffer from the fall?”

    Lin, next you wrote, “Can we public review medical records?”

    Lin, what can our listeners do right now if they want to support the fight for their God given America freedoms?

    Step 1 – The Canadian-owned DOMINION vote counting machines are used in 28 states

    The Former CEO of Overstock.com Explains the Technology That Was Used to Rig the 2020 Elections

    https://www.deepcapture.com/2020/11/...-the-evidence/

    Communist Chinese Gov’t-Linked Bank Account Gave $400M To Dominion Voting Systems Before US Election – http://www.christianitydaily.com/art...s-election.htm

    Step 2 – DOMINION gets its software from Sequoia Voting Systems (Formerly known as SMARTMATIC which is a Delaware company owned by Venezuelans close to the Communist Venezuelan Chavez and Maduro family)

    Step 3 – Then our votes are stored on a server in Frankfurt Germany.

    Trump recount committee has seen raw data from seized Dominion servers of how VOTES WERE SWITCHED by an algorithm in the software!!! “The things that are going to come out are going to SHAKE the globalists to their very core” –

    https://twitter.com/Bls1022/status/1...652296195?s=20

    BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: WE GOT IT! — Col. Waldron Confirms US Has a Copy of the Election Night Data ‘Traffic and Packets’ Sent Overseas to Frankfurt! (VIDEO) –

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ankfurt-video/

    Step 4 – Then our votes actually get counted in Barcelona, Spain and Smartmatic has a special software feature that allows users to change votes

    Their software allows them to change the VOTE

    Oh…and Smartmatic Owns DOMINION

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...ates-election/

    Secretary of Defense – Christopher C. Miller Acting since November 9, 2020

    Director of National Intelligence – John Ratcliffe was sworn in as (DNI)

    BREAKING REPORT: FBI, US Marshals and Texas Rangers raid SolarWinds headquarters in Austin Texas!

    New DOJ rules could allow firing squads, electrocution, poisonous gas for executions – https://www.fox13news.com/news/new-d...for-executions
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    AXIOS reported just hours ago:

    Scoop: Trump administration declassifies unconfirmed intel on Chinese bounties


    The Trump administration is declassifying as-yet uncorroborated intelligence, recently briefed to President Trump, that indicates China offered to pay non-state actors in Afghanistan to attack American soldiers, two senior administration officials tell Axios.

    The big picture: The disclosure of this unconfirmed intelligence comes 21 days before the end of Trump's presidency, after he has vowed to ratchet up pressure on China, and months after news reports indicated that the Russians had secretly offered bounties for Taliban militants to kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
    • The Chinese embassy in D.C. did not respond to a request for comment. Trump is not believed to have discussed the matter with President Xi Jinping.
    • It was not immediately clear whether any members of Congress or President-elect Joe Biden have been briefed, though Biden now has access to the President's Daily Brief (PDB).

    Behind the scenes: The intelligence was included in the president's briefing on Dec. 17, and Trump was verbally briefed on the matter by National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien, officials said.
    • Administration officials across multiple agencies are currently working to corroborate the initial intelligence reports.
    • Axios was not able to visually inspect any reports detailing the intelligence. A summary was described by phone by the officials.

    Why it matters: If this intelligence were to be confirmed, it would represent a dramatic strategic shift for China, and sharply escalate tensions between China and the U.S. If the intelligence does not prove accurate, it raises questions about the motivations of the sources behind it as well as the decision to declassify it.
    • China has long played a quiet diplomatic role in Afghanistan, inviting Afghan Taliban officials to Beijing to discuss plans for a peace deal and encouraging an Afghan-led solution, though Chinese-made weapons and financing have at times also flowed into the conflict there.
    • It seems "incongruous" that China would take such a provocative action in Afghanistan, Andrew Small, a senior fellow at the German Marshall Fund who specializes in China-Afghanistan affairs, told Axios.
    • Pursuing peace in Afghanistan is "one of the extremely rare areas where the US and China still have a willingness to work together on an area of importance," Small said. "They know the drawdown is taking place. We’re not in the context where anything else needs to happen to US troops in Afghanistan. There is no reason to create additional pressure on US forces."

    Flashback: In June, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany lashed out at the New York Times for publishing "unverified" allegations about the Russian bounty intelligence.

    She suggested "rogue intelligence officers" were undermining Trump and U.S. security. She also insisted Trump hadn't been briefed because the intelligence hadn't been fully verified.

    Details:
    • One senior official involved in the latest China discussions, who described the uncorroborated intelligence to Axios, said: "Like all first reports, we react with caution to initial reports" but "any intel reports relating to the safety of our forces we take very seriously."
    • On Dec. 22, officials held a Policy Coordinating Committee (PCC) meeting to discuss the matter, said a second senior official with direct knowledge of the internal discussions.
    • The official said the PCC was focused on two objectives, consultation with the IC on attempts to verify initial reports, and consultation in the intelligence and defense communities around the force protection posture for remaining forces in Afghanistan.

    Officials would not describe the source or sources of the intelligence or say when or over what period of time the activity occurred.
    • One said: "The U.S. has evidence that the PRC [People's Republic of China] attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen by Afghan non-state actors by offering financial incentives or 'bounties'" and said the National Security Council "is coordinating a whole-of-government investigation."
    • He would not say whether he was referring to the Taliban, or go beyond the descriptor of "non-state actors."
    • The timing of the alleged bounty offer is unclear. The source would say only that this happened some time after late February when the U.S. struck its deal with the Taliban. He also noted there had not been an American combat death in Afghanistan since.
    • He said the administration received earlier intelligence about "PRC weapons illicitly flowing into Afghanistan."

    Between the lines:
    • The British and U.S. governments have previously complained about Chinese-made weapons being used by the Taliban.
    • The interest in Afghanistan stems in part from Beijing's desire to prevent Chinese Muslim separatist groups from using the country as a base.
    • Afghan security officials recently discovered an alleged Chinese spy ring operating in the country apparently seeking to target Uighurs there, according to a Dec. 25 report from the Hindustan Times.

    Don't forget:
    • Trump received heavy criticism earlier this year when he admitted he had not addressed with Vladimir Putin the unconfirmed intelligence reports that Russia had been offering bribes to the Taliban to kill American soldiers.
    • The commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Frank McKenzie, said in September that "it just has not been proved to a level of certainty that satisfies me" that Russia offered these bounties. (This information was included in the President's Daily Brief earlier in the year, the New York Times first reported).
    • "We continue to look for that evidence," McKenzie said of the reports on Russia. "I just haven't seen it yet. But … it's not a closed issue."

    article here:
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    pretty bizarre when even CNN reports on it ...

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    Quote Scoop: Trump administration declassifies unconfirmed intel on Chinese bounties
    I think the heading pretty much tells the tale, "unconfirmed".

    First there was "unconfirmed" intel that it was Russian bounties on the heads of US soldiers, now it's Chinese bounties. Next it'll be "unconfirmed" reports of Venezuelan bounties. Sigh...

    Let's ask ourselves: Why in the world would the Taliban need financial incentives to kill US soldiers occupying their country in the first place? They don't want us there, they've already got all the incentive they need.

    It makes no sense, except that this is how we get our succession of boogie men. May as well be straight from central casting at the CIA.

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    This video is SO incredible, i had to transcribe at least some of it, the stage is the Governors Ball, where Pompeo tells of receiving an invitation last year that said (quote) :

    "The opportunity for Beneficial Economic Development Between China and our Individual States are Tremendous"

    the invitation might sound like it had come from President Trump. But it was actually from a former governor. I was being invited to the U.S. China Collaboration Summit. It was an event Co-Hosted by the National Governor's Association and something called the "Chinese People Association for Friendship and Foreign Countries". Sounds pretty harmless. What the invitation did NOT say, is that the group is the public face for the Chinese Communist Party's Official Foreign Influence Agency. The United Front Work Department.

    I was lucky, I was familiar with that organization from my time as Director for the CIA. But it got me to thinking, how many of you made the link between that group and Chinese Communist Party Officials? What if you made a new friend while you were at that event? What if your new friend asked you for introductions between politically connected and powerful people? What if your new friend offered to invest big money in your state perhaps in your pension? in industries sensitive to our national security?

    These aren't hypotheticals. These scenarios are all too true and they impact American foreign policy significantly

    Indeed last year a Chinese Government backed think tank in Beijing produced a report that assessed all 50 of America's governors and their attitude towards China. They labeled each one of you friendly, hard lined or ambiguous. I'll let you decide where you think you belong. Someone in China already has. Many of you, indeed in that report are referenced by name.

    So here's the lesson. the lesson is the competition with China is not just a federal issue, that's why i wanted to be here today.

    Its happening in your state with consequences for our foreign policy for the citizens that reside in your states and indeed, for each of you. and in fact, whether you're viewed by the CCP as friendly or hard lined? know that it's working you. know that it's working the team around you. Competition with China is happening inside of your state and it affects our capacity to perform America's vital national security functions.

    I want to set the context today for this topic. At the end of the Cold war, America began to interact with China heavily, it made good sense we thought that the more we interacted, the more it would become like a liberal democracy, like us, here in the United States.

    It didn't happen, and you all know this. Indeed under XiXI Ping, the country is moving in exactly the opposite direction, more repression, more unfair competition, more predatory economic practices, indeed a more oppressive military posture as well.

    You should know this doesn't mean we can't do business with China i had an operation when i ran century international, we had a small office in Shanghai , we can find places to cooperate when our interests converge.

    You can see that in the first part of the trade deal that President Trump got done, signed the last month. We're happy about that, it was the right thing to do. That was indeed a deal that that was indeed a deal that was good for both the United States and China. And these economic ties are powerful. They're important and they're good for your state and they're good for America. Look at the nearly 18 tons of medical supplies the United States just flew to China, just this past week to help fight the Coronavirus

    Yesterday we announced more than one hundred million dollars in assistance to China and the countries that were affected by the virus. ....

    ... But while there are places where we can cooperate, we can't ignore China's actions and its strategic intentions, if we do we risk the important components to our relationship that benefit both countries

    The Chinese government has been methodical in the way it has analyzed our system. Our very open system, one that we are deeply proud of its assessed our vulnerabilities and its decided to exploit our freedoms to gain advantage over us at the federal level, at the state level and at the local level.

    last year i announced that i would give a series of speeches on China and this is part of that, its the context in which state and local government officials ought to think about in the way that they lead with respect to our relationship.

    Its important. China matters. Its been a part of my mission, in the state department to mobilize all parts of the United States government.

    I was out in Silicon Valley a couple of weeks ago to talk to America's leading tech companies about this very set of issues. And i need your help too. What China does in Topeka and Sacramento reverberates in Washington and Beijing and far beyond.

    Competition with China is happening. Its happening in your state. In fact, i would be surprised if most of you in the audience had not been lobbied by the Chinese Communist Party directly. Chinese Communist Party friendship organizations like the one i referenced earlier are in Richmond, Minneapolis, Portland, Jupiter Florida and many other cities around the country.

    But sometimes, China's activities aren't that quite that public and i want to talk about some of that today. Let me read you an excerpt of a letter from a Chinese diplomat who was China's Consulate General in New York, sent a letter last month to the Speaker of one of your state legislators. Here's what the letter said in part. It said quote

    "As we all know Taiwan is part of China. Avoid engaging in any official contact with Taiwan, including sending congratulatory messages to the elected, introducing bills of proclamations for the election, sending officials and representatives to attend the inauguration ceremony and inviting officials in Taiwan to visit the United States." End of quote from the letter.

    Think about that you have a diplomat from China, assigned here to the United States, A representative of the Chinese Communist Party in the New York City, sending an official letter, urging that an American elected official shouldn't exercise his right to freedom of speech.

    Let that sink in for just a minute. and this isn't a one of event, its happening all across the country. Chinese consulate in New York, in Illinois, in Texas, in Tulip California bound by the diplomatic responsibilities and right of the Vienna Convention are very politically active as is the embassy right here in Washington, D.C.

    Maybe some of you have heard about the time when the Chinese Consulate paid the UC San Diego students to protest the Dali Lama. Or last August when a former governor, Phil Bryan of Mississippi received a letter from a diplomat in the Counsel's office in Houston, threatening to cancel a Chinese investment if the governor chose to travel to Taiwan. Phil went anyway.

    Last year a High School, a high school in Chicago just invited a Taiwanese Representative to serve on a climate panel

    it's one thing to pressure the Secretary of State United States of America. It seems quite something else to go after a high school principal. it shows depth. It shows systemization. it shows intent.

    Chinese Communist Party official are cultivating with county school board members often through what are known as sister city programs. Look this Chinese competition is something you all know, it sits in the back of your mind but you have many duties and you are busy people. But this competition is well underway and while these might seem like to some, the cumulative effect is of enormous national importance and international significance.

    Of course too, our public education systems, are another arena of competition with China. I know Governors you don't run these institutions on a day to day basis, but you often have impact on the people that do.

    The FBI Director and i think the Attorney General too, talked yesterday about something called a Thousand Talent's plan. It's a plan to recruit scientists and professors to transfer the know how we have here, to China in exchange for enormous paydays. The program's probably targeted campuses in your state.

    Indeed the Department of Justice has indicted professors in my home state, at the University of Kansas, at Virginia Tech and at Harvard. A Texas A & M investigation report that has more than one hundred academics participating in Chinese Talent Recruitment plans, only 5 of them had declared that they were participating in this program. And goodness knows what else we have not discovered.

    There are indeed very critical reports of Chinese government officials pressuring Chinese students, students studying right here in the United States of America, to monitor fellow Chinese students, and to report back to Beijing. One very prominent pro democracy Chinese student at a college campus in the North East last year, received death threats, death threats for exercising his right to free speech. The FBI became involved.

    Make no mistake about it, we want talented young Chinese students to come study in the United States of America. i see it in Wichita state universities are wonderful young people we ought to encourage them to be here. But they shouldn't have to fear the long arm of Beijing, which often reaches out via groups like the Chinese Students and Scholars Associations. That's just one that's just one of many campus groups directly influenced by the Chinese Communist Party and its representatives right here in the United States.

    Many of you are familiar with the Confucius Institutes, Confucius Institutes purport to have the sole purpose of teaching Mandarin Language skills and Chinese culture.

    A Bi-Partisan Committee found last year in 2019, that the Chinese Communist Party
    controls nearly every aspect of the Confucius Institute's activities right here in the United States.

    over the past few months, the university of Missouri, the university of Kansas, the university of Maryland have independently decided to close down their Confucius Institutes after conducting their own reviews, and schools in 22 other states have already done the same.

    Sadly, China's propaganda campaign starts even earlier than college, China has targeted K 12 schools, through its Confucius classrooms, the CCP's programs to influence kids in elementary, middle and high schools around the world.

    Do you know that we have no ability to establish similar programs in China? I'm sure that doesn't surprise you. President Trump has talked about reciprocity in trade. We should have reciprocity in ALL things. Today they have free reign in our system and we are completely shut out from theirs.

    As of 2017 there were 519 of these classrooms in the United States. Beijing knows that today's kids are tomorrow's leaders. The China competition is happening. Its happening in your states, and its a competition that goes to the very basic freedoms that everyone of us values.

    When it comes to doing business, I'm asking you to adopt a cautious mindset. In the words of President Reagan, when you're approached for an introduction? or a connection to a deal? trust but verify.

    I know you all have power over pension funds and the people that run them. As of its latest public filing, the Florida retirement system has invested in a company that in turn has invested in surveillance gear that the Chinese Communist Party uses to track more than one million Muslim minorities. California's pension fund, the largest public pension fund in the country, is invested in companies that supply the people's liberation army that puts our that puts our soldiers, sailors and airmen and marines at risk.

    And as is the case for many Chinese Companies too, their books are not wide open, so its difficult to know if the transaction that is being engaged in, is transparent and fair, and follows the rule of law.

    Now all of these things may well be legal. But the question is but do they demonstrate good judgment? and preserve America's national security. I want to urge vigilance on the local level too.

    In the district of Columbia, there have been concerns raised that the new metro cars manufactured by China could be vulnerable to cyber threats. So again, its worth trusting, but verifying. There are federal officials ready to help you to work your way through these challenges when they arise. Don't make separate individual deals in agreement with China that would undermine our national policy.

    i know none of you would do so intentionally. Let us help you make sure we're getting it right. We're here to help. The Trump administration wants to help.

    there are so many things we have already done. Last year we issued a letter to state governments that reaffirmed that Taiwan remains a business party and a friend in every other way.

    We've strengthened the review process for Chinese companies that are investing in your states. We've revoked visas for so called research scholars who abused their privileges by teaching in Confucius classrooms and made sure that they departed the United States.

    We've banned scientist from the Department of Energy which oversees America's 17 largest National including our nuclear research facility in New Mexico. We did so because they were participating in Chinese Talent Recruitment programs.

    We've directed two Chinese propaganda outlets, the Chinese Global Television Network and Shin Wan News Agency, to register, as foreign agents.

    And we at the State Department have started requiring Chinese Diplomats to comply with the same rules we comply with when we are in China. Chinese Diplomats now must notify the state department in advance of official meetings with State and local officials. They must declare their official business to U.S. Educational and Research Institutions as as well.

    This is just fairness, reciprocity, basic common sense. This is not an onerous restriction to put on China. ....

    Look i know its 2:30 on a Saturday afternoon, there's lots of good things we could do.

    i hope you will all will take on board what I've said today. You all have important missions leading your states. These are complex difficult jobs. You have the task to create jobs and opportunities in your state and your people. Attract human capital investment that undergirds our prosperity. Its a tough job and you get curve balls every day from all across the place. But don't lose sight of the competition from china that's already present in your state. Let's all rise to the occasion and protect our security, our economy

    indeed all that we hold dear, ALL of those freedoms. It's what leaders must do.
    It's what we do as Americans. I hope God will bless each and everyone of you and each of your state in the United States of America. Thank you for letting me be here with you this afternoon.
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    JUST IN - Attorney General of Arizona @GeneralBrnovich
    Files amicus brief in support of the Senate subpoenas:

    Legislature has the constitutional authority
    to audit the election in Maricopa County.




    Election Wiz reports:

    "PHONEIX — The Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich has filed a brief in support of Arizona legislature in the battle over whether the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors must comply with election-related subpoenas.

    Earlier this month, the Maricopa Board of Supervisors voted 4-1 today defy the state lawmakers and resist complying with legislative subpoenas. Instead of allowing an audit, the board voted to file a lawsuit against lawmakers in state court, seeking to block the enforcement of the subpoenas.

    The subpoenas were issued by Arizona lawmakers in response to claims that the election in Maricopa County was fraught with fraud. The lawmakers seek force county officials to allow an audit of the voting machines.

    In the brief filed with the court, the Arizona AG asked the judge to enforce the subpoenas.

    “The County’s position on the general scope of the Legislature’s subpoena power is, therefore, inconsistent with constitutional structure, governmental tradition and practice, the plain meaning of an Arizona statute, and binding Arizona Supreme Court case law” the AG’s brief reads.

    In a tweet, AG Mark Brnovich wrote he believes state lawmakers have the “constitutional authority” to investigate how Maricopa County administered their election.

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    Quote Posted by iota (here)
    This video is SO incredible, i had to transcribe at least some of it, the stage is the Governors Ball, where Pompeo tells of receiving an invitation last year that said (quote) :

    "The opportunity for Beneficial Economic Development Between China and our Individual States are Tremendous"

    the invitation might sound like it had come from President Trump. But it was actually from a former governor. I was being invited to the U.S. China Collaboration Summit. It was an event Co-Hosted by the National Governor's Association and something called the "Chinese People Association for Friendship and Foreign Countries". Sounds pretty harmless. What the invitation did NOT say, is that the group is the public face for the Chinese Communist Party's Official Foreign Influence Agency. The United Front Work Department.

    I was lucky, I was familiar with that organization from my time as Director for the CIA. But it got me to thinking, how many of you made the link between that group and Chinese Communist Party Officials? What if you made a new friend while you were at that event? What if your new friend asked you for introductions between politically connected and powerful people? What if your new friend offered to invest big money in your state perhaps in your pension? in industries sensitive to our national security?

    These aren't hypotheticals. These scenarios are all too true and they impact American foreign policy significantly
    The boot is very much on the other foot. This is what the CIA were doing in the sixties notably in France, and also in the USA. Let’s hope the US government is not just crying foul because this time it is on the receiving end. It has to eradicate this whole culture which was originally homegrown.
    Quote Approved For Release 2005/11/21 : CIA-RDP70B00338R000300030011-0
    -4 . QIN V-A
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    THE ARTICLE IN THE FEBRUARY 1967 ISSUE OF "RAMPARTS"
    magazine, breaking the sensational story concerning Central Intelligence Agency
    subsidies of private student, labor, and educational organizations, has already
    prompted action by President Johnson to forbid future channeling of CIA funds into
    groups like the National Student ' As sociation.
    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...000300030011-0

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Quote Scoop: Trump administration declassifies unconfirmed intel on Chinese bounties
    I think the heading pretty much tells the tale, "unconfirmed".

    First there was "unconfirmed" intel that it was Russian bounties on the heads of US soldiers, now it's Chinese bounties. Next it'll be "unconfirmed" reports of Venezuelan bounties. Sigh...

    Let's ask ourselves: Why in the world would the Taliban need financial incentives to kill US soldiers occupying their country in the first place? They don't want us there, they've already got all the incentive they need.

    It makes no sense, except that this is how we get our succession of boogie men. May as well be straight from central casting at the CIA.
    Gracy ... "Lets'"

    no Gracy, you are singular

    i would ask how much you are paid, but the amount is irrelevant

    i think this because no decent person with a modicum of respect would put such a great group of people who are sincere, honest in their beliefs and values through your continued irreverent challenges that are little less than outright affronts.

    it just seems that every post of yours i've seen continuously puts in 'question" content, dampens spirits, are endless requests for explanations, barely thinly veiled disdain on your part, continuous use of ridicule and/or derision, demands for clarifications, justifications til you just wear a person or a group down ...

    (when the truth is that NO explanation will ever satisfy and neither will ANY suffice)

    This would be because at absolutely NO time has there EVER been,
    nor will there EVER be


    the teeniest:

    "good faith", honesty, sincere desire, much less interest in YOU to

    UNDERSTAND ANYTHING

    and to this day?

    despite REPEATED, intelligent, perfectly logical explanations you NEVER have ...

    you come right back to HAMMER away .... many , many times ...

    it appears as though the ONLY interest there has ever been is disruption,

    your posts are not informative, they are littered with sarcasm and ridicule, that's all i encounter with your posts

    consider that you do NOT "HAVE to" understand WHY we FEEL as we do

    just please consider that YOUR understanding is NOT ESSENTIAL

    it is OK if you "don't get it"

    CONTINUOSLY requesting indulgences of answers you do NOT want

    neither to hear
    nor understand


    to people sincerely concerned that our FREEDOM is in jeopardy is rather unkind and even "dismissive" or our feelings, opinions beliefs ...

    you sometimes go so far as to cajole us in childish attempts to corner us into a defensive stance whereby you might continue to repeatedly demand

    explanations,
    justifications

    that are in reality NOT OWED you

    it is NOT our Job to CONVINCE you Gracy

    your LACK of understanding is NOT our issue

    any more than the beliefs here should be yours


    i for one, just don't find it amusing or anywhere in the realm of acceptable behavior to a group of well meaning folks who have meant you absolutely no harm by merely having a different opinion than you

    and i just don't believe that ALL of the explanations you have been given were SO unacceptable or unreasonable ... honestly? i understand even less why they were given in the first place ...

    If you had just a little respect for the people in this forum you would allow them to have meaningful conversations without demands for justification

    you would NEVER dream to insert yourself with the sarcasm, intended to "put down" the topic that you can CLEARLY see we are VERY serious about

    the following explanation is for everyone else

    i'm sure it will fail to meet your expectations in every way

    i'm ok with that Gracy, .... your lack of agreement or understanding will just have to be something i live with ... i can't win 'em all ...

    *************************

    Quote the heading pretty much tells the tale, "unconfirmed".
    ok ... so when has THAT ever been a determining factor?

    anyone who has been around this site for a while, has possibly noticed that there is PLENTY known to be factual and "confirmed"

    which is COMPLETELY disregarded IRL
    (in real life)

    TRUTH often has little to NO significance

    i'm sure most have noticed that PLENTY of FACTS
    we KNOW to be TRUE

    are being COMPLETELY disregarded?

    ok so the question begs, WHAT is being "regarded"?

    that would be the official narrative that is BEING promoted

    THIS is being "officially promoted"

    True? or not?
    as in "confirmed"? or not?

    THIS is what the "sanctioned media" > CNN et al

    are NOW promoting ...

    in what fairy tale is this to be discounted?

    i would think that:

    the PURPOSE is WHAT MATTERS

    here are some speculations

    IT IS in fact, "declaring WAR" withOUT declaring WAR

    by their action to INCLUDE it in the Presidential brief
    AND did NO ONE note, that included BIDEN too?

    that was everyone's CLUE that this WILL Be carried further

    some of the possible ramifications include (JUSTIFICATION for) the implementation of the heavy consequences outlined in the previously enacted Executive Orders signed by President Trump

    not to mention the justification for the sanctions PRESENTLY being imposed

    to WHICH BIDEN has expressed lack of agreement

    now that he has been "officially briefed"?

    that's NOT a very PRESIDENTIAL stand to take is it?

    not one of putting national security as a priority
    not one of just an average "responsible" party that seeks to be entrusted with the HIGHEST office of the land, and could, in fact, be PERCEIVED as a tad reckless

    to be CLEAR, it is (and ALWAYS HAS BEEN) PERCEPTION that matters

    NOT TRUTH or FACT

    it is WHY this Forum exists in the first place ...

    there is more ... but everyone can do their own research

    and connect dots as to where this might be heading

    because it WILL be heading somewhere, i assure you

    and my intention was ONLY to post what IS relevant and likely to have consequences in our very near future,

    NOT to justify or defend the information.

    i am not responsible for this information, you do understand that right?

    nevertheless, i anticipate this will be of further relevance for reasons outlined above or for COMPLETELY different reasons maybe and therefore wanted to give a heads up
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    Iota, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by iota (here)
    This video is SO incredible, i had to transcribe at least some of it, the stage is the Governors Ball, where Pompeo tells of receiving an invitation last year that said (quote) :

    "The opportunity for Beneficial Economic Development Between China and our Individual States are Tremendous"

    the invitation might sound like it had come from President Trump. But it was actually from a former governor. I was being invited to the U.S. China Collaboration Summit. It was an event Co-Hosted by the National Governor's Association and something called the "Chinese People Association for Friendship and Foreign Countries". Sounds pretty harmless. What the invitation did NOT say, is that the group is the public face for the Chinese Communist Party's Official Foreign Influence Agency. The United Front Work Department.

    I was lucky, I was familiar with that organization from my time as Director for the CIA. But it got me to thinking, how many of you made the link between that group and Chinese Communist Party Officials? What if you made a new friend while you were at that event? What if your new friend asked you for introductions between politically connected and powerful people? What if your new friend offered to invest big money in your state perhaps in your pension? in industries sensitive to our national security?

    These aren't hypotheticals. These scenarios are all too true and they impact American foreign policy significantly
    The boot is very much on the other foot. This is what the CIA were doing in the sixties notably in France, and also in the USA. Let’s hope the US government is not just crying foul because this time it is on the receiving end. It has to eradicate this whole culture which was originally homegrown.
    Quote Approved For Release 2005/11/21 : CIA-RDP70B00338R000300030011-0
    -4 . QIN V-A
    March 29, 1967
    THE ARTICLE IN THE FEBRUARY 1967 ISSUE OF "RAMPARTS"
    magazine, breaking the sensational story concerning Central Intelligence Agency
    subsidies of private student, labor, and educational organizations, has already
    prompted action by President Johnson to forbid future channeling of CIA funds into
    groups like the National Student ' As sociation.
    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...000300030011-0
    that's as really good point ... and to be honest, there was something else "off" about it

    there is NO way that Pompeo is UNaware of the 2017 Chinese Intel Law that pretty much COMPELS ALL Chinese nationals TO 'gather intel"

    no choice in the matter

    the talk at first was astonishing that he addressed the issue

    however, if this is our elected official in charge of maintaining National Security and he IS aware of the level of infiltration that HAS taken place?

    he did NOT go NEARLY far enough, nor stern enough, nor really provide them with sufficient possible ramifications so as to cause them to STOP

    i could see it as almost a "warning' of like ... "hey guys i know what you are doing, and it is out in the open ... so just be extra careful to NOT get caught"

    i'm flabbergasted

    they have now infiltrated to the level of control of elections

    there is no way that they will have spent the time, money and resources to "groom" these elected officials to leave it now up to "chance" that they might be replaced after a term or two

    we are in SERIOUS trouble here i'm afraid
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    so that any adversary
    will never make such an attempt in the future.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Iota, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
    tom if someone can dish it?

    they don't get to complain that there's a response

    and it is the umpteenth time already

    i don't initiate and i owe no apology or explanation
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    Default Re: 2020 Presidential Election—and its Aftermath

    Pence Just Filed His Brief in Federal Court


    earlier: he was sued in the Gohmert matter in Texas

    reported here:

    Rep. Louie Gohmert, Group Of Republicans Sue Pence
    In Last-Ditch Effort To Overturn Presidential Election


    Photo By Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images


    Republican Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert and a group of other GOP figures filed a lawsuit Sunday against Vice President Mike Pence in an effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

    The lawsuit focuses on Pence, who will oversee the upcoming Jan. 6 meeting of Congress to count states’ electoral votes and finalize President-elect Joe Biden’s victory over President Donald Trump, according to The Hill.

    “The 2020 presidential election was one we’d expect to see in a banana republic, not the United States of America. In fact, the rampant fraud and unconstitutional actions that took place were so egregious that seven contested states– Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin all sent dueling slates of electors to Congress,” Gohmert said in a statement.

    “This puts Vice President Mike Pence in a position where some argue he has to choose between morality and the law. That is not the case,” Gohmert continued.

    FULL LAWSUIT HERE:

    The group filed the lawsuit against Pence in his capacity as vice president in a federal Texas court. The lawsuit reportedly asks for the judge to overturn Trump’s losses in battleground states. (RELATED: ‘We Need New Leadership’ — Ocasio-Cortez Blasts Pelosi, Schumer)

    Along with Gohmert and Arizona Republican Party Chairwoman Kelli Ward, Students for Trump COO Tyler Bowyer, Arizona Republican Party Executive Director Greg Safsten and Maricopa County Republicans Second Vice Chair Nancy Cottle are asking federal Judge Jeremy Kernodle to let Pence declare who the electors are on Jan. 6, according to The Daily Beast. "

    article:
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/28/l...en-kelli-ward/

    now .. Pence has responded

    the PDF can be obtained here

    basically this is the gist:

    VP Pence:
    The Vice President is not the proper defendant to this lawsuit.


    in essence saying, it doesn't pertain to him

    VP Pence:

    First, it is well established that Article III standing requires a plaintiff to “have suffered an ‘injury in fact’ . . . which is (a) concrete and particularized, and (b) actual or imminent, not conjectural or hypothetical”’; the injury must be “fairly traceable to the challenged action of the defendant, and not . . . the result of the independent action of some third party not before
    the court”; and “it must be likely, as opposed to merely speculative, that the injury will be redressed by a favorable decision.”


    he basically asserted no standing.


    VP Pence:

    Plaintiffs’ suit seeks to empower the Vice President to unilaterally and unreviewably decide objections to the validity of electoral votes, notwithstanding the Electoral Count Act. Plaintiffs are thus not sufficiently adverse to the legal interests of the Vice President to ground a case or controversy under Article III.


    No standing.

    VP Pence:

    To the extent any of these particular plaintiffs have a judicially cognizable claim, it would be against the Senate and the House of Representatives.


    Pretty much saying that it isn't HIS function or job

    VP Pence:

    Thus, these plaintiffs have not adequately alleged redress for their specifically-asserted conjectural injuries.


    Without making legal "standing" clear? it is the basis for this response


    VP Pence:

    But this Court can and should resolve this motion under
    the well settled requirement of true and not artificial adversity or the other threshold issues outlined above, particularly given the time constraints and expedited briefing necessitated by Plaintiffs’ recent filings.


    His case for dismissal is procedural grounds; rather than the merits.



    NOT too happy about this response and i hope it was just indicative of lawsuit response and not of his proposed actions in January
    We should defend our way of life
    to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed,

    so that any adversary
    will never make such an attempt in the future.

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