The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[Deneon]

You've got to be kidding me.. You can just go look at his Twitter page to see what he believes. It will become quite clear, real fast. OR wait, it's probably all set up right? The years and years of his Trump and Q posts? just for this moment? Yep that's certainly more likely than just being a Q/Trump supporter...

And that other photo. That guy on the left doesn't even remotely look like the guy on the far right. And the bearded dude... yeah they have similar hair- and beard-styles, but that's about it. Posting this **** is not really helping your cause. You really believe this is proof that Antifa was behind the whole Capitol protests?

Believing every random twitter post blindly because it is part of your narrative, and dismissing everything else. Yeah you're really all "doing your research"

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/statu...311259136?s=20

Facebook, YouTube and Twitter have all removed the video President Trump posted a few hours ago.

Trump's Go Home in Peace video on Gab TV

https://tv.gab.com/channel/realdonal...a21cb861e2a3d2


from neon commenters

Well, I gotta be honest. After Wednesday's optics, it would take a tsunami of action to prevent anyone already afflicted with TDS to accept this. Your average liberal upper West Side of Manhattan person is now calling for DJT to be removed from office immediately. Does anyone believe they will accept military action, arrests, etc at this point? Yesterday's "rally" accomplished nothing. Trump needed to hit it out of the park, not recycle election fraud facts that the average person still hasn't accepted. I've been rooting like hell for this to work, but unless JFK Jr himself comes down from Heaven holding Princess Diana's hand and exposes the pedophiles, sodomites and sinners in the Swamp, this movie is over. If Patiots were truly in control, it wouldn't have come to this. I'm sorry, but this is how it feels. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't get my hopes anymore. The football has been plucked off the grass by Lucy too many times.



I, unfortunately, agree. The fag GOP lied to us. I don't know what to think about Trump anymore. Hate to say that but facts are facts. At this point I expected military intervention. I know a lot of military and the majority support him. Or will do their duty regardless.
Does this mean their leadership is against him too? If so, America died yesterday.


As president still, Trump can institute the EO. I felt they had more than enough data to pull it off and the trigger was never pulled. At this point I would declas every piece of paper I legally could and just reveal to the world what happened over the last two or three decades. The Republican Party is Officially dead. Communists are now in control and must be confronted with every breath they take.

[pueblo]

Posted by Deneon (here)
You've got to be kidding me.. You can just go look at his Twitter page to see what he believes. It will become quite clear, real fast. OR wait, it's probably all set up right? The years and years of his Trump and Q posts? just for this moment? Yep that's certainly more likely than just being a Q/Trump supporter...

And that other photo. That guy on the left doesn't even remotely look like the guy on the far right. And the bearded dude... yeah they have similar hair- and beard-styles, but that's about it. Posting this **** is not really helping your cause. You really believe this is proof that Antifa was behind the whole Capitol protests?

Believing every random twitter post blindly because it is part of your narrative, and dismissing everything else. Yeah you're really all "doing your research"

Link to the "everything else" that you say I have blindly dismissed, please?

[Deneon]

As soon as you address the issues with the photos you are actively sharing, I may link to one of the 2095720 articles, statements by senators, governors, legislators and supreme court judges that say there is no credible evidence for voter fraud. I can also show you links of videos where protestors yesterday destroyed equipment and property. But alas, I am wrong and everything except what 30 people on the internet say is fake news, so what's the point?

I saw Sydney Powell tweeting that cropped picture and the phillyantifa comparisons last night. If that's the amount of research she has put into her "KRAKEN" lawsuits, it is just laughably bad. Anyone with half a brain can look that **** up in 2 seconds and see the viking guy is not actually a BLM or Antifa member. And yet, those photos are being shared here on the forum as well as PROOF that Antifa were the ones behind the Capitol storming. I pointed it out, but of course it gets ignored... and then the picture is shared AGAIN, as if it is absolute proof.

Also, I've read now a couple of times "Trump supporters are not violent and would never do this". Even if you believe everything about this giant conspiracy, you cannot possibly make this statement and mean it. Of the million Trump supporters in Washington DC, you KNOW for a fact none of them has any form of violence or a bad intention? If anyone really believes that and can make statements like that, they are delusional. Seriously. Utterly ridiculous. They don't KNOW. Nobody KNOWS. But once you're in this cult, it is apparently impossible to even conceive that a person who is a Trump supporter could so something bad. Yep, sure, they're all angels. Each and every one of them.

Except of course when they flip. Trump supporters who once were allies, but now think things have gone too far, are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy.

[RunningDeer]

A repost and a thanks, pueblo.

Posted by pueblo (here)
…Nobody here (to my knowledge), and certainly not me, is saying this is a 'lock in' or anything of the sort.

I can only speak for myself and say that anything posted by me in this thread is not an affirmation of a blind faith in anybody or anything. I am sceptical of all information and require a high level of evidence before I am ready to 'believe' something to be fact.

These threads build up a picture or a story that is open to many interpretations, yours being just as valid as mine or anyone else's.

Posting tweets from Wood or anyone else does not mean I necessarily endorse or agree with their content.

{snip}

[pueblo]

Posted by Deneon (here)
As soon as you address the issues with the photos you are actively sharing, I may link to one of the 2095720 articles, statements by senators, governors, legislators and supreme court judges that say there is no credible evidence for voter fraud. I can also show you links of videos where protestors yesterday destroyed equipment and property. But alas, I am wrong and everything except what 30 people on the internet say is fake news, so what's the point?

I saw Sydney Powell tweeting that cropped picture and the phillyantifa comparisons last night. If that's the amount of research she has put into her "KRAKEN" lawsuits, it is just laughably bad. Anyone with half a brain can look that **** up in 2 seconds and see the viking guy is not actually a BLM or Antifa member. And yet, those photos are being shared here on the forum as well as PROOF that Antifa were the ones behind the Capitol storming. I pointed it out, but of course it gets ignored... and then the picture is shared AGAIN, as if it is absolute proof.

Also, I've read now a couple of times "Trump supporters are not violent and would never do this". Even if you believe everything about this giant conspiracy, you cannot possibly make this statement and mean it. Of the million Trump supporters in Washington DC, you KNOW for a fact none of them has any form of violence or a bad intention? If anyone really believes that and can make statements like that, they are delusional. Seriously. Utterly ridiculous. They don't KNOW. Nobody KNOWS. But once you're in this cult, it is apparently impossible to even conceive that a person who is a Trump supporter could so something bad. Yep, sure, they're all angels. Each and every one of them.

Except of course when they flip. Trump supporters who once were allies, but now think things have gone too far, are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy.

Not to be a nitpicker but it would be helpful if you could quote me when replying so I know you have replied to me! Thanks.

I have addressed the issue of the photos and your points have not been ignored, we have been having a back and forth about this all morning!.

The Baphomet guy does indeed appear to be a Trump supporter. I use the word 'appear' as I don't know the guy personally. I do find it strange that he is pictured with what appears to be Nancy Pelosi's son in law. I note you haven't addressed this.

The issue with the other two guys (one guy with a beard and one with glasses) is still unresolved, it 'appears' they may well be Antifa.

I also agree with you about the assertion that Trump supporters wouldn't do this, this is obviously a generalisation and that's all it is, however, there is much evidence that groups like Antifa and BLM are supported by George Soros with the agenda of fomenting violence and creating division, I have seen less evidence of this type of behaviour from Trump supporters.

A fundamental difference between you and me is that you seem to have made your mind up that this is all a crock of excrement whereas I remain on the fence. I am happy to follow this through to the end while reserving my right to make a judgement call if and when I feel appropriate.

F Scott Fitzgerald said that "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.” Many of us here are doing just that and still (just about) retaining the ability to function!

[mountain_jim]

http://themostimportantnews.com/ques...o-be-answered/

tweets and images at link..

Questions About The Chaos At The Capitol That Desperately Need To Be Answered
January 6, 2021

Like most Americans, I was absolutely horrified by the violence that I watched at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday. But I had a difficult time trying to understand what I was witnessing. Trump supporters are almost always extremely peaceful, but many of those that were storming the Capitol were being very violent. That didn’t make sense to me. And how in the world did protesters get into the U.S. Capitol in the first place?

Well, it turns out that police actually opened up the barricades that were surrounding the U.S. Capitol and purposely allowed protesters to storm the building. You can see this on video right here…

I have never seen anything like that in my entire life.

And once they were inside the building, they were herded toward particular areas. For example, you can watch one “guard” actually lead protesters up several flights of stairs right here…

Either the U.S. Congress has the worst security personnel that any of us have ever seen, or this was allowed to happen on purpose.

And there are multiple reports that Antifa activists were brought in by bus. In fact, one patriot actually recorded video of the Antifa buses that were brought into the heart of Washington D.C. with an escort…

So who arranged for those Antifa buses to have that sort of an escort?

It is almost as if someone was extremely determined to get those Antifa activists to their location so that they could do their job.

Once they got inside the Capitol, the Antifa activists could have done a much better job of disguising themselves.

In fact, one has already been positively identified as a member of Philly Antifa…

If he wanted to pass as a “Trump supporter”, he probably should have covered up the hammer and sickle that are tattooed on the back of his hand…

Perhaps the most famous “protester” from the chaos on Wednesday is “the guy with the Viking horns”.

Well, it turns out that he was photographed at a BLM rally in Arizona wearing the exact same outfit back in June…

And he was also photographed at a “climate activism” event in 2019…

Apparently his name is Jake Angeli and he is a “shamanic practitioner”. But on Wednesday he was posing as a hardcore Trump supporter.

So why can’t the mainstream media put any of these pieces together?

It shouldn’t take too much detective work to identify a lot of these people.

So why won’t they do it?

And did you notice that the police let the vast majority of the “protesters” go without arresting them once it was all over?

The mainstream media is insisting that “they will be arrested later”, but a lot of people aren’t buying that.

All of this just seems very odd to me.

Just as a debate about the evidence of election irregularities was about to begin in the halls of Congress, these riots conveniently broke out.

Members of Congress were quickly evacuated, and the millions of Americans that were watching never got to see an honest debate about the 2020 election.

When proceedings finally resumed, the entire atmosphere had completely changed, and all of a sudden hardly anyone was interested in debating whether the election results were legitimate or not.

So who actually benefitted from the riots?

Also, it is important to note that these riots have dealt a severe blow to any political future that President Trump hoped to have.

So with one stone, activists have neutered the debate over the legitimacy of the election and they have devastated the Trump movement as well.

It appears that someone really was playing “3D chess”, and it wasn’t Trump and his supporters.

And this is just the beginning. As I keep warning, the radical left will never be satisfied until they accomplish all of their goals.

Electing Joe Biden was just a way to get rid of Trump. The radical left actually doesn’t like Biden either, and they will fight him bitterly if Biden does not go along with their full agenda.

In the end, what they want is a full-blown “revolution” in this country. And as we witnessed on Wednesday, they will go to extreme lengths in order to get what they want.

https://twitter.com/35Leosa/status/1...456175620?s=20

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/st...386588673?s=20

[PurpleLama]

Everyone should hear what Tucker has to say, here.

[Deneon]

Again with the photos of the 'Antifa' soldiers. Clearly naming everything about him, except for the fact that a search will show him at multiple Trump rallies with Q signs and whatnot. Oh and he himself has responded to allegations by Lin Wood that he is an Antifa agent. But let me guess: he's an actor, and has been compromised now, right?

Keep spreading disinfo, no harm in that, right? Or is it only bad when "the others" do it?

'QAnon Shaman' Who Stormed Capitol Denies He Is Antifa as Conspiracy Theorists Turn on Him

Angeli replied directly to Wood to confirm he is a part of the radical conspiracy theory.

"Mr. Wood. I am not antifa or blm. I'm a Qanon & digital soldier," he tweeted.

"My name is Jake & I marched with the police & fought against BLM & ANTIFA in PHX. Look up OAN's coverage of July 4ths rally in PHX capital. I was standing against the BLM mob out numbered but unphased."

So, to answer the question, why isn't the media covering this: because it's bull****. As anyone who would look into it more than 2 seconds instead of posting it, would find out.

I'll just leave this UNCROPPED picture of him at the BLM rally here.. again.

[Gracy]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Everyone should hear what Tucker has to say, here.

So I watched Tucker, and here is my observation:

I'm already seeing now two solid narratives of what happened yesterday running side by side one another. In one, it's all an Antifa false flag to shine Trump supporters in a bad light. Trump supporters would never do such a thing.

In the other, the Tucker version of events now being touted, it was wrong what the Trump supporters did, but historically speaking they must be listened to or god help us all.

It can't be both, not credibly anyway.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Everyone should hear what Tucker has to say, here.

So I watched Tucker, and here is my observation:

I'm already seeing now two solid narratives of what happened yesterday running side by side one another. In one, it's all an Antifa false flag to shine Trump supporters in a bad light. Trump supporters would never do such a thing.

In the other, the Tucker version of events now being touted, it was wrong what the Trump supporters did, but historically speaking they must be listened to or god help us all.

It can't be both, not credibly anyway.

I absolutely think it was both, just like there were legitimate protestors all summer long getting painted with the rioter paintbrush while it was a small group, call them antifa if you like, travelling around starting the destruction as soon as night falls. I think there were a lot of upset patriots getting carried along by instigators. Mob mentality is real, and people can be led to do stupid things. How many Trump supporters have you seen sporting helmets, shields, and backpacks? There were quite a few of those vandalizing the capitol yesterday.

[edina]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Everyone should hear what Tucker has to say, here.

So I watched Tucker, and here is my observation:

I'm already seeing now two solid narratives of what happened yesterday running side by side one another. In one, it's all an Antifa false flag to shine Trump supporters in a bad light. Trump supporters would never do such a thing.

In the other, the Tucker version of events now being touted, it was wrong what the Trump supporters did, but historically speaking they must be listened to or god help us all.

It can't be both, not credibly anyway.

Good point Gracy, I was just thinking that there is a tendency for people to fall into an "all or nothing" stance, for or against, information. Not just information that came out through the Q posts, but information in general. It's a bit of a mental shortcut.

The ambiguity of staying mentally neutral uses up a lot of brain energy, and nature is wired to conserve energy. Ergo, the well known quote by F Scott Fitzgerald.

This is a situation of systemic corruption, that has festered in all governments at levels that 4 years ago a majority of people could hardly imagine.

Any system is complex, and we are dealing with systems of systems, within systems. It's not black and white.

Yesterday was my anniversary. My husband and I took a long drive and spent a very happy time together. We took a closer look at Shiprock, and drove the back way around Navajo Dam lake, which was an amazing blue reflection of the sky. The restaurants reopened here and we ate dinner in a sit-down restaurant.

When I got back and started to take in everything that's happened yesterday, I wondered to myself, how many more people are just beginning to realize the depth of the systemic corruption.
But, I also saw many people still believe there is no evidence of election fraud. Some even parrot the headlines, no evidence of election fraud.

Also, one thing being glossed over here is how many people showed up in DC and are not buying into the controlled narrative.
It's being glossed over, but did not go unnoticed.

Our work is just beginning, in my opinion.

[edina]

I'm trying to catch up with the posts in this thread, has anyone already posted the information coming out of Italy, yet?

[samildamach]

The q haters anti trumps,mix in a few I told you so.just couldn't wait for there day. No empathy or understanding here, move along accept your fate

[Jayke]

Looks like the episode "Mr. Lisa Goes To Washington?"
""Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington" is the second episode of The Simpsons' third season. It originally aired on the Fox network in the United States on September 26, 1991. In the episode, Lisa wins a patriotic essay contest about the United States. She and her family attend the contest finals in Washington, D.C., where she is dismayed after watching a congressman accept a bribe. Lisa loses the contest when she pens a scathing screed condemning the government system, but the corrupt congressman is jailed and removed from office, restoring her faith in government."

[edina]

Posted by edina (here)
I'm trying to catch up with the posts in this thread, has anyone already posted the information coming out of Italy, yet?

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)
I haven't vetted this so I can't vouch for it, but if true, this is case-closed smoking gun stuff that's going to change the entire game:

https://vocaroo.com/1e976QE4oDoy

https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/stat...173773824?s=20

https://twitter.com/CombatLVL/status...664103424?s=20

I see that T Smith and mountain jim has shared this bit, thanks T & mj.

Note Added: Also, Running Deer reshared here Simon Parkes talking about this...
And mgray mentions it here, too.
Thanks again to all who are sharing information.

[RunningDeer]

Still listening. Simon opens with his take on how it all rolled out yesterday.

A couple of snippets from the first 7 minutes:

Encryption satellites that are totally controlled by the Vatican....

Military was saying,”Hold on a minute… not only do we have to deal with SCOTUS which is nearly totally corrupt, not only do we have to deal with the FBI, not only do we have to deal with the CIA, or the main stream media, or these states that are clearly non-democratic in terms of democracy, not only do we have to deal with the big tech, not only do we have to deal with the individuals with great wealth, you are now telling us that we have to deal with a foreign country that in the eyes of the world is a key ally of the United States and is a member within NATO.”

So that information caused a bit of a problem because it suddenly meant the game had completely changed. So that’s ONE of the reasons why martial law was not called last night. Because there had to be a secondary plan worked up as to how to deal with Italy.

7th January Update Current News (20 min)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_CHdt2qRLj8

[edina]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Everyone should hear what Tucker has to say, here.

Tucker uses an interesting analogy in his monologue of hemispheres of a brain.

In systems theory, there is a concept of how a system will reach a point of oscillation, very much like we are seeing our social systems now.

It's very chaotic in the systems, whether it's a human body, a business, a nation, or a culture.

What happens in the system at this point is it either evolves or dies.

I was also thinking about this aspect of systems this morning.

Haven't fully formulated what I think about it, yet. Just pondering it.

[Savannah]

Posted by Deneon (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
The pictures tell all!

Thats a convenient crop on the photo on the right. Stop spreading this bull****.

Yes he was at the BLM rally, but not as part of BLM. Here is the whole picture. There's more pictures of him at Trump rallies, just in case you think I photoshopped this or something.

It's people like you that keep us fighting. Thanks for the stupidity, its a great motivator.

[thepainterdoug]

Very well said by Tucker

so today , between shock daze and true amazement we have fallen so far ,Im asking a few things

Why wasnt the National Guard deployed enforce to surround the Capital building to prevent any entry so the chamber could perform its duties?

Where was Trump on this? Did he not see this coming?

If sec of Defense Chris Miller is the warrior stradgeist he is said to be, why did he not see this coming? Where was his plan? Or did he see this coming?

And what about sec state Pompeo, claiming with confidence and ease, "we got this ", just a few days prior?

Is this all they had? I dont believe so. Perhaps there is more to come as Lin Woods tweet last night suggests.

if Trump and his team are in Texas banned from twitter, what are they doing and planning? A peaceful transition to Corn Pop and knee pads ? I think not

remember in ET when we all thought he was dead, and then the pulse and heart light started up. is this whats happening?