The Truth about Corey Goode

[AriG]

Lillyofthestars,

By no means was my stupid rant directed at you. I didn’t quote anyone before launching into my lecture. It was more of an ongoing “peeve” I have with the Alternate community in that so many have their heads up each other’s backsides that they are often oblivious to what is really happening, and there is and has been so much more going on than two Alt Media quasi-celebs. Do you know the movie ‘Best in Show ’http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi...in_Show_(film) ? The Alt. Comm sort of reminds me of those characters; hugely competitive, and constantly trying to outdo or discredit each other. Not suggesting that Goode didn’t deserve doxxing, but in January of 2022, we are on the precipice of losing our freedom and humanity. If I had my druthers, we’d be maligning the top level culprits: Gates, Schwab,Windsor, Biden and the Indian Prime Minister for colluding to not disclose a hugely effective Covid protocol, and Biden for everything he has done since his inception, etc. I greatly appreciate your post but you do not have to qualify your choices. I again sincerely apologize that my rant caused that feeling. Welcome to Avalon! You’ll enjoy your time here and will no doubt be a valued Contributor!

[Hym]

From the beginning of seeing and hearing CNotSoG, I too saw the diversion.
Like so much in media, supposedly the 'middle' of communication between people, ideas, experiences and now between the manipulators, of commerce, governance, storytelling/reporting, and the average person, this one contained just enough truth to be a story that some might listen to.

I saw it all the same as you AriG, and like many others, maybe most here at one time or another, saw the story not holding much or any proof of it all having happened as the narrator said.

Along with all of the missing proofs in the stories I did not like the guy from the start, what with him being authoritative about all of his tales and not exhibiting the true expressions that I've experienced in those I've seen go thru real extraordinary experiences themselves. Out side of this, watching members here even take the first bite of the nonsense, and then waiting for them to see what I knew as false, there is a common theme that many should be well aware of by now.

In the course of the many journeys our souls take, in and out of form, traveling from lesson to lesson, rarely to just take a trip for the experience itself and the rich memories they provide, let alone to take a brake from all of the intensities many lifetimes imprint on the soul, there is a narrative that shysters insert into their stories that comes from the many lives we have had.

When we see that truth revealed I'd think that the more natural thing to do would be to explore our own dynamic past paths instead of listening to someone else take us on a journey that has no comparison to our own recall, integral parts of our own, self-created soul genetics......paths we are all on.

LOTS, LilyOfTheStars, I sense that your recall of that larger-than-now world, one not just bound by being giant in comparison, but one from living in these bodies in a very different world would be a vibrant treatise on what it was like to be living in those times.

It is a wide ranging series of subjects, but ones ever the more compelling when viewed thru the eyes of experience. CG in his present state, in that narrative that hurt some who did not seek anything but the truth, is way below you and your understanding, your experiences.

That narrative, quite by accident, struck a rock that created a spark that lit the dark in the mountains where you once lived. Can you share that and tell us more........

[Lilyofthestars]

LOTS, LilyOfTheStars, I sense that your recall of that larger-than-now world, one not just bound by being giant in comparison, but one from living in these bodies in a very different world would be a vibrant treatise on what it was like to be living in those times.

It is a wide ranging series of subjects, but ones ever the more compelling when viewed thru the eyes of experience. CG in his present state, in that narrative that hurt some who did not seek anything but the truth, is way below you and your understanding, your experiences.

That narrative, quite by accident, struck a rock that created a spark that lit the dark in the mountains where you once lived. Can you share that and tell us more........

@ Hym,
Its nice to be taken seriously. I want to share the entire story, there's a part of me that feels like I am wasting my life if I don't tell the truth and share with at least a handful of people what I have experienced and come into awareness about. It feels selfish and wrong to keep it all bottled up out of fear of rejection. I feel apprehensive and nervous about throwing it all out there on the table. When I witness so many liars plunge into the love/light saga sharing various narratives, it hurts my soul. I have a keen inner eye for the exaggerators and tall tales. My greatest fear is people jumping at me and accusing me of doing the same because of deceptive people like Goode. Its so difficult to be taken seriously in a subject (past lives, one's cosmic origins, etc.) which has turned into a "Marketable" empire, that is of the whole "Awakening Earth" movement. From QHHT (what a nightmare) to all the other foundations making their millions and capitalizing on it. It saddens and grieves my heart to no end to witness all the circles of confusion and deceptions flowing through these communities (online and in person). I now avoid "spiritual circles" like the plague because of all of the BS flying around.

That being said, I generally agree with AriG's comments. These things are a huge pet peeve for me too. I will say that upon perusing the Avalon forums the last few days, I've seen more serious discussion on these topics than I've ever seen before. There appears to be less egocentric posts and fairy tales floating about. Ex: Yes yes, everyone is a starseed. But when does being a "starseed" cross over into seeded fantasy because people have consumed too many narratives from the " ascension market"? The only reason I have trusted in my own experiences is because I wasn't consuming all of this madness during my personal awakening and cosmic memory period. It appears often that its the other way around for people. They discover something like Dolores Cannon (as an example), read her books, suddenly become a practitioner - next thing you know, a person who has NO history of visionary capacity, out of body travels, or remote viewing, is suddenly an Ex-Lioness Priestess from the Lyra system. I mean.... Wow. It makes it impossible to know who's telling the truth and who is just spreading fantasy because of reading one too many "starseed" articles. I allowed the process to happen on its own before ever exploring such content. The ages of 25-37 was (and still is) a time where I ex-communicated myself from the city because I knew something was coming and that I had to "remember" before it was too late. No one told me to do it. I just knew I had to go. Its been a rough ride.

This Goode thread probably isn't the place to share my memories of being a giant or the pages will just keep accumulating with Non-Goode content. Though my original Giant sharings were in connection to Goode, when I first chimed in. You are 100% right, he said something and it cracked a stone inside of me, illuminating a deep concern within. I was almost infuriated that he knew what I knew. I was sure no one could have possibly have seen what I had. I will also note that my current best friend in life (who is my room mate), had a vision about me as a Giant, as well. I had kept it a secret from him and never told him the visions/memories I had been having regarding it, for obvious reasons. It sounded totally insane. He just woke up one morning and told me he had never had a "vision" in his life outside of regular human dreams, but that he felt compelled to tell me what he had just experienced. Sure enough, he described a giant coming out of Stasis, a 30 foot tall giant who looked remarkably similar to me as I am now. In the vision, he knew it was my soul inside of the giant. He didn't use the term Stasis, of course. He simply described what "they" had to do to get my body to "come back" to the world as it is today. He also described a sun event happening simultaneously. His vision was extraordinarily long and involved the end days. He had no previous exposure to themes of giants coming out of stasis. He didn't even know it was a "thing". Of course, after he told me all of this I said to him I had something to tell him, and proceeded to tell him the many visions I had already had myself once being one. I have also had visions regarding his past lives as well. Such as the fact he was a WWII pilot who died in the war before this lifetime. It turned out he already knew this from his own memories as a child! Amazing how the people in our lives can sometimes be granted information about those they are currently intimately connected to. No Hypnosis required! It appears friendship and love is the ultimate "opener" of truth/memory. Almost as if the universe will always support the acquisition of our cosmic memories if its for the right reason and under the right conditions.

I will try to work up the courage to make a new thread about my Giant visions. Perhaps sometime in the following weeks.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)

I will try to work up the courage to make a new thread about my Giant visions. Perhaps sometime in the following weeks.

Lily, to encourage you maybe just a little , there are very many here on Avalon who have had extraordinary (or near-unbelievable) experiences.

You could start a thread of your own in any of the Members Only subsections, and/or share your story here. (This is a very remarkable thread indeed )

• EXPERIENCERS: Sharing, Exploring, and Learning Together

[Gemma13]

Posted by AriG (here)
So Sad. Such well spoken intelligent people totally missing the point. It’s about focus and sadly I rarely see any. We are running out of time and instead of rallying against the forces that seek our elimination, there is precious energy wasted on someone who is clearly delusional (Goode). Sort of like the people of Australia really. Content to be a captive. Or the people of Portland who allowed thugs and criminals to destroy their city in the name of “wokeness “. It’s a mindset of disassociation - no different than an undergrad course in comparative literature. Just an intellectual exercise. It will be the downfall. I guess I need to finally admit that this platform is just idle entertainment for the passively awakened and has no role in affecting any outcome but rather keeps its participants in a state of perpetual tail chasing. Sorry to crash your party. I rarely post here lately and do not intend to be rude. I just felt compelled to push you off the track before the train hit you.

Posted by AriG (here)
My apologies everyone. I allowed things to get the best of me. I still stand by my point and contend that Corey Goode does not deserve the energy, but my finger wagging approach was not acceptable. Truth is no one has ever stopped this evil that has us in its clutches and no one ever will. Mankind has been programmed to be submissive. Expecting a large contingent of geographically diverse people to coalesce on an Internet forum is patently ridiculous. I reserve the second Saturday of each month for ridiculousness- thank you for supporting my sincerely held ridiculous beliefs! Lol and Mea Culpa to all!

Posted by AriG (here)
Lillyofthestars,

By no means was my stupid rant directed at you. I didn’t quote anyone before launching into my lecture. It was more of an ongoing “peeve” I have with the Alternate community in that so many have their heads up each other’s backsides that they are often oblivious to what is really happening, and there is and has been so much more going on than two Alt Media quasi-celebs. Do you know the movie ‘Best in Show ’http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi...in_Show_(film) ? The Alt. Comm sort of reminds me of those characters; hugely competitive, and constantly trying to outdo or discredit each other. Not suggesting that Goode didn’t deserve doxxing, but in January of 2022, we are on the precipice of losing our freedom and humanity. If I had my druthers, we’d be maligning the top level culprits: Gates, Schwab,Windsor, Biden and the Indian Prime Minister for colluding to not disclose a hugely effective Covid protocol, and Biden for everything he has done since his inception, etc. I greatly appreciate your post but you do not have to qualify your choices. I again sincerely apologize that my rant caused that feeling. Welcome to Avalon! You’ll enjoy your time here and will no doubt be a valued Contributor!

I guess I need to finally admit that this platform is just idle entertainment for the passively awakened and has no role in affecting any outcome but keeps its participants in a state of perpetual tail chasing.

That's pretty harsh criticism and judgement of the level of awareness of Avalon members when you claim to only pop in once a month.

Expecting a large contingent of geographically diverse people to coalesce on an Internet forum is patently ridiculous. I reserve the second Saturday of each month for ridiculousness- thank you for supporting my sincerely held ridiculous beliefs.

And yet here we are...

Perhaps instead of popping in once a month to throw rocks at some of the fire brigade members who voluntarily suit up to help quell pedestrian fires and provide a nursing station for those badly burnt, you might consider starting your own thread to illuminate us all in what you are doing to help resist the evils.

Mankind has been programmed to be submissive.

Ya think!

Truth is no-one has ever stopped this evil that has us in its clutches and no-one ever will.

Fair enough.  Don't agree with you.  But I guess that means I can now stop holding out for your illuminating thread.

In the meantime, taking your frustrations out on people is not helping you or us.  Maybe stop chasing your tail around topics that you clearly know very little about from your lofty purview and get down to business with your druthers on all the topics you mentioned... which are extensively covered on Avalon.

AriG Occasionally someone drives into a "Goode Be Warned Thread" with a truck that has Learner Plates on.  And I have no problem with that.  But sometimes the driver is grinding gears and their foot can't reach the break.

That's when I will step in and firmly suggest they back that truck up because mine is bigger and I've been driving it for a very long time.

I appreciate your reflections and do sincerely hope you find comfort, somewhere, somehow... and in case it helps, there have been many people over the years that have been tremendously grateful for the work Avalon has provided to the community.

[Mashika]

Hi!

I don't usually participate in anything related to Corey Good or David Wilcock, but in this case i just wanted to point at something. Ever since i started reading about those guys, a couple years ago, i have always noticed how even people who agree almost 100% in their views on the entire subject, somehow start arguing over any minor thing, it's almost like the energy turns dark and toxic all around just as soon a any of those guys become the subject of a conversation

I felt that since the beginning when looking at interviews or pictures of Corey Good, it has a dark/divisive/toxic energy all around him, and people somehow get 'infected' by it over time until they get dark and feel attacked or in someways attack other people, mostly about things that in the big scheme of things don't truly matter. I don't know but that's the perception i get from that guy, he's toxic and requires division and a toxic environment around him to prevail and advance

I have seen the shows when he is discussed and it's always the same, eventually everything becomes toxic and people get angry and dark, then insults are thrown all over the place and it becomes barren toxic land. There is nothing but pure/dark energy coming from there

So i tend to just ignore entirely anything said by him or people related to him.

I believe it's fine to research the guy and what he says, but not to go so deep that it becomes some important part of your life, don't let that dark/empty/poisonous energy grow inside yourself. Even if he had some things to say, that were close to some truth or another, he picked it up from someone else. And it doesn't matter how close to the truth he gets, if he uses that knowledge for his own gain, and manipulates and destroys people around him in the end. What good is a truth, if it will end up destroying you in the end? It has been poisoned before you got access to it. At that point it is worthless, look for the same truth somewhere else

[Lilyofthestars]

@ Malisa,
I feel like there's been a real over reaction to what has been some really nice conversation. Don't focus on the over reactive posts, but rather the good ones. Nothing toxic was going on until AriG did, admittedly, over react to a topic some of us might know more about. Which pissed a few people off, which then was apologized for, which then went back to being a more supportive/kind thread fairly quickly.

@Gamma13
Not sure if that was about me, but I don't think I arrived to the thread totally uninformed or as a "learner" concerning Goode. I had already figured out what you all kindly confirmed. I was grateful to get some high quality replies (so thank you to you all, you know who you are). I just didn't realize others had finally arrived to the same conclusions until coming to this thread. So I wasn't needing nursing or wounds licked. From day one, I was never a victim of the Goode scheme and never have been. I hope you don't feel like I started a fire here by adding my two cents.

I mean, if we should never ever discuss the Goode thing again - so be it. I'm sure this whole thread could be deleted and conversation ended permanently, if it stirs up that much anxiety. As it stands, I think its good to leave the discussion open as you never know what might pop up, helping to clarify everyone's deeper search for the truth. After all, that's what Avalon is all about.

[Gemma13]

Malisa:  I have always noticed how even people who agree almost 100% in their views on the entire subject, somehow start arguing over any minor thing, it's almost like the energy turns dark and toxic all around just as soon a any of those guys become the subject of a conversation.

Could be said about any topic, sadly.

I believe it's fine to research the guy and what he says, but not to go so deep that it becomes some important part of your life, don't let that dark/empty/poisonous energy grow inside yourself.

This is a good point and is good advice to anyone, researching any topic.  Suit up, stay balanced, find humour... then you can walk where angels fear to tread.

[Gemma13]

Lily, relax, no-one is judging you... I understand being a *newbie* comes with sensitivities and I don't doubt you will remove them over time.

The Learner Trucks don't bother me personally, but they are insulting to new victims who are trying to navigate their way out of Corey's cult.  Hearing people tired of the topic shout that "everyone should be over it now" is unfair and cruel.

I try to never forget how difficult it is dealing with insincerity from people we have given our trust to... and we've all been burnt in some way or other on various topics.

[Lilyofthestars]

Thanks Gemma, absolutely agree about "Newbie" sensitivities. Just not a newbie on the Goode issue.

I very much feel for anyone who was burnt by this guy. I didn't know there were any victims of him on this thread - it appeared to me like this thread was only full of all the serious researchers like yourself who already figured out what the heck was going on with the whole "handler" thing a long time ago. Seems all his followers play on other spaces like Reddit, or something. I wrongly assumed none of them would be around this place in the first place, given that the Avalon community seems so vigilant in critical thinking.

Also agree that it is cruel to try to say "case closed", when its still a fascinating topic in my opinion. The whole psychology behind someone controlling a narrative as a "handler" should be studied by everyone. It helps increase discernment amongst the spiritual communities.

[Gemma13]

Corey Goode has a substantial history on Avalon Lily - with the Avatar GoodETxSG - ingratiating and seducing many to be friends and/or respect his postings.  He then became "the sole saviour for humanity" and literally shat on everyone leaving a wake of destruction as he partnered up with Wilcock.

The whole psychology behind someone controlling a narrative as a "handler" should be studied by everyone. It helps increase discernment amongst the spiritual communities.

Couldn't agree more!

[AriG]

Posted by Gemma13 (here)

Posted by AriG (here)
So Sad. Such well spoken intelligent people totally missing the point. It’s about focus and sadly I rarely see any. We are running out of time and instead of rallying against the forces that seek our elimination, there is precious energy wasted on someone who is clearly delusional (Goode). Sort of like the people of Australia really. Content to be a captive. Or the people of Portland who allowed thugs and criminals to destroy their city in the name of “wokeness “. It’s a mindset of disassociation - no different than an undergrad course in comparative literature. Just an intellectual exercise. It will be the downfall. I guess I need to finally admit that this platform is just idle entertainment for the passively awakened and has no role in affecting any outcome but rather keeps its participants in a state of perpetual tail chasing. Sorry to crash your party. I rarely post here lately and do not intend to be rude. I just felt compelled to push you off the track before the train hit you.

Posted by AriG (here)
My apologies everyone. I allowed things to get the best of me. I still stand by my point and contend that Corey Goode does not deserve the energy, but my finger wagging approach was not acceptable. Truth is no one has ever stopped this evil that has us in its clutches and no one ever will. Mankind has been programmed to be submissive. Expecting a large contingent of geographically diverse people to coalesce on an Internet forum is patently ridiculous. I reserve the second Saturday of each month for ridiculousness- thank you for supporting my sincerely held ridiculous beliefs! Lol and Mea Culpa to all!

Posted by AriG (here)
Lillyofthestars,

By no means was my stupid rant directed at you. I didn’t quote anyone before launching into my lecture. It was more of an ongoing “peeve” I have with the Alternate community in that so many have their heads up each other’s backsides that they are often oblivious to what is really happening, and there is and has been so much more going on than two Alt Media quasi-celebs. Do you know the movie ‘Best in Show ’http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi...in_Show_(film) ? The Alt. Comm sort of reminds me of those characters; hugely competitive, and constantly trying to outdo or discredit each other. Not suggesting that Goode didn’t deserve doxxing, but in January of 2022, we are on the precipice of losing our freedom and humanity. If I had my druthers, we’d be maligning the top level culprits: Gates, Schwab,Windsor, Biden and the Indian Prime Minister for colluding to not disclose a hugely effective Covid protocol, and Biden for everything he has done since his inception, etc. I greatly appreciate your post but you do not have to qualify your choices. I again sincerely apologize that my rant caused that feeling. Welcome to Avalon! You’ll enjoy your time here and will no doubt be a valued Contributor!

I guess I need to finally admit that this platform is just idle entertainment for the passively awakened and has no role in affecting any outcome but keeps its participants in a state of perpetual tail chasing.

That's pretty harsh criticism and judgement of the level of awareness of Avalon members when you claim to only pop in once a month.

Expecting a large contingent of geographically diverse people to coalesce on an Internet forum is patently ridiculous. I reserve the second Saturday of each month for ridiculousness- thank you for supporting my sincerely held ridiculous beliefs.

And yet here we are...

Perhaps instead of popping in once a month to throw rocks at some of the fire brigade members who voluntarily suit up to help quell pedestrian fires and provide a nursing station for those badly burnt, you might consider starting your own thread to illuminate us all in what you are doing to help resist the evils.

Mankind has been programmed to be submissive.

Ya think!

Truth is no-one has ever stopped this evil that has us in its clutches and no-one ever will.

Fair enough.  Don't agree with you.  But I guess that means I can now stop holding out for your illuminating thread.

In the meantime, taking your frustrations out on people is not helping you or us.  Maybe stop chasing your tail around topics that you clearly know very little about from your lofty purview and get down to business with your druthers on all the topics you mentioned... which are extensively covered on Avalon.

AriG Occasionally someone drives into a "Goode Be Warned Thread" with a truck that has Learner Plates on.  And I have no problem with that.  But sometimes the driver is grinding gears and their foot can't reach the break.

That's when I will step in and firmly suggest they back that truck up because mine is bigger and I've been driving it for a very long time.

I appreciate your reflections and do sincerely hope you find comfort, somewhere, somehow... and in case it helps, there have been many people over the years that have been tremendously grateful for the work Avalon has provided to the community.

I have been a member of this forum for longer than you know and have kept confidences that would rock your world. I have apologized. What more do you want?

[Gemma13]

Arig:  I have been a member of this forum for longer than you know and have kept confidences that would rock your world. I have apologized. What more do you want?

Seriously?

Okay, Nothing... oh, apart from making silly presumptions that you could rock my world, lol... now I'm getting a crook neck.

[Mashika]

Posted by AriG (here)

Posted by Gemma13 (here)

Posted by AriG (here)
So Sad. Such well spoken intelligent people totally missing the point. It’s about focus and sadly I rarely see any. We are running out of time and instead of rallying against the forces that seek our elimination, there is precious energy wasted on someone who is clearly delusional (Goode). Sort of like the people of Australia really. Content to be a captive. Or the people of Portland who allowed thugs and criminals to destroy their city in the name of “wokeness “. It’s a mindset of disassociation - no different than an undergrad course in comparative literature. Just an intellectual exercise. It will be the downfall. I guess I need to finally admit that this platform is just idle entertainment for the passively awakened and has no role in affecting any outcome but rather keeps its participants in a state of perpetual tail chasing. Sorry to crash your party. I rarely post here lately and do not intend to be rude. I just felt compelled to push you off the track before the train hit you.

Posted by AriG (here)
My apologies everyone. I allowed things to get the best of me. I still stand by my point and contend that Corey Goode does not deserve the energy, but my finger wagging approach was not acceptable. Truth is no one has ever stopped this evil that has us in its clutches and no one ever will. Mankind has been programmed to be submissive. Expecting a large contingent of geographically diverse people to coalesce on an Internet forum is patently ridiculous. I reserve the second Saturday of each month for ridiculousness- thank you for supporting my sincerely held ridiculous beliefs! Lol and Mea Culpa to all!

Posted by AriG (here)
Lillyofthestars,

By no means was my stupid rant directed at you. I didn’t quote anyone before launching into my lecture. It was more of an ongoing “peeve” I have with the Alternate community in that so many have their heads up each other’s backsides that they are often oblivious to what is really happening, and there is and has been so much more going on than two Alt Media quasi-celebs. Do you know the movie ‘Best in Show ’http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi...in_Show_(film) ? The Alt. Comm sort of reminds me of those characters; hugely competitive, and constantly trying to outdo or discredit each other. Not suggesting that Goode didn’t deserve doxxing, but in January of 2022, we are on the precipice of losing our freedom and humanity. If I had my druthers, we’d be maligning the top level culprits: Gates, Schwab,Windsor, Biden and the Indian Prime Minister for colluding to not disclose a hugely effective Covid protocol, and Biden for everything he has done since his inception, etc. I greatly appreciate your post but you do not have to qualify your choices. I again sincerely apologize that my rant caused that feeling. Welcome to Avalon! You’ll enjoy your time here and will no doubt be a valued Contributor!

I guess I need to finally admit that this platform is just idle entertainment for the passively awakened and has no role in affecting any outcome but keeps its participants in a state of perpetual tail chasing.

That's pretty harsh criticism and judgement of the level of awareness of Avalon members when you claim to only pop in once a month.

Expecting a large contingent of geographically diverse people to coalesce on an Internet forum is patently ridiculous. I reserve the second Saturday of each month for ridiculousness- thank you for supporting my sincerely held ridiculous beliefs.

And yet here we are...

Perhaps instead of popping in once a month to throw rocks at some of the fire brigade members who voluntarily suit up to help quell pedestrian fires and provide a nursing station for those badly burnt, you might consider starting your own thread to illuminate us all in what you are doing to help resist the evils.

Mankind has been programmed to be submissive.

Ya think!

Truth is no-one has ever stopped this evil that has us in its clutches and no-one ever will.

Fair enough.  Don't agree with you.  But I guess that means I can now stop holding out for your illuminating thread.

In the meantime, taking your frustrations out on people is not helping you or us.  Maybe stop chasing your tail around topics that you clearly know very little about from your lofty purview and get down to business with your druthers on all the topics you mentioned... which are extensively covered on Avalon.

AriG Occasionally someone drives into a "Goode Be Warned Thread" with a truck that has Learner Plates on.  And I have no problem with that.  But sometimes the driver is grinding gears and their foot can't reach the break.

That's when I will step in and firmly suggest they back that truck up because mine is bigger and I've been driving it for a very long time.

I appreciate your reflections and do sincerely hope you find comfort, somewhere, somehow... and in case it helps, there have been many people over the years that have been tremendously grateful for the work Avalon has provided to the community.

I have been a member of this forum for longer than you know and have kept confidences that would rock your world. I have apologized. What more do you want?

You know AriG, i can't agree with this sentiment. You probably have been alive way more than me, and in 2012, when you joined, i was 15 years old so none of the current stuff i read here even crossed my mine back then. However, and this is an important 'however', i had experiences very very few people have on this life and on society, most of which i reserve to myself. And that was back then, even at 12 years old i knew things a lot of people can't even begin to understand

And yet, i never found the need to use that as a tool to look down on others, or in any way throw it out there so impress or belittle people around. That's just not the right way to go around it

I'm going to say what i have said lots of times before, because i have a special place for it since very long ago. "Your personal experiences, don't entitle you to anything, and no one should have any kind of special treatment for you because of what you think you know or have experienced. There is always a bigger fish, and that bigger fish, when found, doesn't stop to tell you about who he is". I believe, and excuse me for being so direct, i believe that you should reconsider thinking of you and other people in the way you do, as displayed here. "I'm better than you, and you don't have a clue" is not humble or anything a person experienced in detail on the hard things of life would say.

People who have gone through and 'know the heavy stuff' never open their mouths about it, at all. They never brag about anything, in the first place

and have kept confidences that would rock your world

Everyone has things to say, some of which could be work rocking to other people. That doesn't mean anything. Maybe the reason you think these 'confidences' are world shocking is because you remained silent about them and no one has gone through them so those are personal to you. It changes when other people go through them and find flaws or explanations, then it loses the shiny aspect of it. That's why it doesn't matter in the bigger aspect, unless you don't keep it to yourself, then it has to pass the 'soul validity test'.

Anything can be true, and anything can be false, maybe one of those hidden truths could be taken down in 5 minutes once made public. Why keep it hidden? Is it supposed to be kept hidden because it could not pass the smell test? Once lots of people look at it? See what i mean? That's why it doesn't matter and means next to nothing to say "i know stuff"

And also, please keep this in mind, it may be useful in the future, this is a quote from a Japanese writer, Yasunari Kawabata

“They've always been fond of understanding other people too well. They should arrange not to be understood quite so easily.”

That's all

[Franny]

Hi there dear people, mod 👒 on here...

Please remember, we are all friends here and most subjects can be discussed as long as we keep to Civil discourse.

Do take a look at Bill’s fine thread here on how stress can affect us. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...on-one-another

We’re all a little stressed these days, so be kind 💖

[Gemma13]

For the record:

There are beautiful people who have suffered immensely over the years with this sordid saga, Joe and Teresa just to name two, of countless.  Take a look at this thread of litigation if anyone is interested in understanding what others have had to endure.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1351251

Then there's Shadowself (Brooke) who worked tirelessly with us on this topic; before and during her battle with cancer that eventually took her life.

I miss her and I miss Joe.  And there's no way in hell I'm going to let someone barge in here to tell us we need to ignore "the abuser in the street" because some of the kids he f*cked are all grown up.

I get that people have moved on.  You should.  But just keep bloody walking.  And believe it or not, so have I... almost.  Really good people have come and gone along the way to help carry the load, and are still doing it, out there in the community.  My expiry date on this Avalon topic will not arrive though until the court cases are over.

So... Anyone who hasn't paid much attention over the years to the Corey Goode saga.  Well done.  You shouldn't!

It's a murky, ugly, f*cking cesspool and I wouldn't encourage anyone on the outer to jump in; unless you have genuine interest.

So please... stop jumping in, getting sh!t on your shoes, and flinging it at the janitors.

[Lilyofthestars]

@Malisa
I might also say that I spent most of my entire lifetime "keeping things to myself" regarding personal experiences, but most certainly do not feel "better" than anyone because I know I have experienced hundreds of interdimensional occurrences most probably have never experienced.

I took a big chance sharing my "Giant" memories earlier, but I most certainly wasn't seeking praise or "special treatment" by sharing it. I know your message primarily was directed for AriG, and not me, but I just wanted to be clear that when I shared what I shared (which most probably didn't even read due to the length of the original messages), I wanted to see if anyone had any interesting information to share in response. I may know certain things about my cosmic origins, but I'm most certainly not claiming "specialness" over it. I find it a total burden on the other hand. I have had a lifetime of suffering due to having a very thin veil. Having such a thin veil means that I have come into contact with my own origins more times than I count, dating back to being a child. It has brought me nothing but misery and NO special treatment at all. My god, if I had been getting special treatment for being so different in this world, life would be such a breeze! But alas, its been anything but. Okay... just stating this for the record.

I simply want to reply to this statement:

People who have gone through and 'know the heavy stuff' never open their mouths about it, at all. They never brag about anything, in the first place

Generally I totally agree with this, but there are exceptions to this rule. Sometimes people have to take that leap of faith and share what they have been through. Its a very necessary part of spiritual growth. Unfortunately, that can be misinterpreted as some one bragging or seeking admiration. I have been accused of it by my family (years ago, before they all ex-communicated me as a person for being so different) when I was doing anything but. I think sometimes people feel threatened by hearing about things they personally have no way of conceiving of or conception of due to lack of spiritual integration (a sad reality). You can't rule that possibility out. Though, there will always be those individuals who are clearly seeking worship from others when they propose to have "out of this world" information. They're expecting a certain sort of grandiose response and seeking for everyone to bow down to them for spiritual guidance. Ick and Ew.

I've "hidden" most of my life due to fear of harassment and mockery from others concerning my experiences. It was a big step for me to even share my giant visions in the first place. Some of my giant experiences not even being visions, but something far more intense than that. I already know no one would believe it.

Much love to you all -

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Malisa (here)
People who have gone through and 'know the heavy stuff' never open their mouths about it, at all. They never brag about anything, in the first place

Dear Friends, just stepping in here with a philosophical comment. (Or something like that!)

One of the problems (of course) is that what's super-heavy for one person may not feel like such an impossible weight for another. All this is very subjective.

But maybe we can all agree that heaviness is heaviness, it's not a competition, and we all tend to deal with these things in very different personal ways.

Some people have an instinct to talk about it (if they can, and if anyone will listen), while others feel they cannot, or dare not, or are worried they may be ridiculed, pilloried, or simply misunderstood.

We're sliding off the topic of this thread here (Corey Goode!) — and it may well warrant a thread of its own: something about how experiencers deal with their wild and unbelievable (but often very real) experiences.

As some here may know, I've had a bunch of fairly wild experiences myself, and I've grown used to talking about almost all of them. (But the key word is 'almost'. The wildest of them all I've hardly shared with anyone, though I'm kind of creeping up on it inch by inch. )

Two comments/questions:

• Malisa's profile page states that she's 100 years old. I can however reveal that she's really about a quarter of that, though definitely a very old soul indeed.
  But here's my question: how the heck did you get the experiences yourself, in such a small number of years, to be able to write such a profoundly insightful thing as "People who have gone through and 'know the heavy stuff' never open their mouths about it, at all. They never brag about anything, in the first place"?
  
  
• And Gemma's "stop jumping in, getting sh!t on your shoes, and flinging it at the janitors." You see, she's Australian. So all can very easily be understood and forgiven.

[Lilyofthestars]

Ermm.. I know this question wasn't for me, but may I?

how the heck did you get the experiences yourself, in such a small number of years, to be able to write such a profoundly insightful thing as "People who have gone through and 'know the heavy stuff' never open their mouths about it, at all. They never brag about anything, in the first place"?

I feel like I'm 37 going on about 1 million years old, at least.. And then I know 65 year olds with the emotional/spirituality maturity of a 12 year old. I think the door swings both ways.. Age is most certainly just a number which is hardly representative of our true selves at the soul level. Some are born with thin veils, others aren't. I can't tell you how many times boomers yell at me that I couldn't possibly know the things I do being the age I am, or have earned the right to share wisdom of any sort due to not having lived "enough years".. It gets old. When I very young I was taken to the Akashic records to learn the truth about who I am and why I'm here... Should I apologize for that forever to my seniors in age? Haha! They'd rather just say I'm delusional. Oh well {insert shrug emoji which I cannot find}

[Spiral]

Posted by Lilyofthestars (here)
Ermm.. I know this question wasn't for me, but may I?

how the heck did you get the experiences yourself, in such a small number of years, to be able to write such a profoundly insightful thing as "People who have gone through and 'know the heavy stuff' never open their mouths about it, at all. They never brag about anything, in the first place"?

I feel like I'm 37 going on about 1 million years old, at least.. And then I know 65 year olds with the emotional/spirituality maturity of a 12 year old. I think the door swings both ways.. Age is most certainly just a number which is hardly representative of our true selves at the soul level. Some are born with thin veils, others aren't. I can't tell you how many times boomers yell at me that I couldn't possibly know the things I do being the age I am, or have earned the right to share wisdom of any sort due to not having lived "enough years".. It gets old. When I very young I was taken to the Akashic records to learn the truth about who I am and why I'm here... Should I apologize for that forever to my seniors in age? Haha! They'd rather just say I'm delusional. Oh well {insert shrug emoji which I cannot find}

Yeah, the age of the vehicle or meat suit is just that, its not the age of the person inside.