WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Metaphor]

Posted by muxfolder (here)
Where are my Finnish and Swedish friends now? This is getting real. Just trying to get your opinion.

I find it hard to wade through msm fear porn and try to see what is propaganda to promote fear and what is actual truth. Its like covidreporting on steriods here in the swedish newspapers. The finnish people remember all to well when the russians tried to invade in 1941 and finally was beaten back in 1944, but I guess the russians at this time rather took the baltic states, if any. How are your own thought going with this, and how are the finns taking this?

Edit: just started looking at this:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uIW2C92lc0g

I can tell you that there are many voices to join NATO just now in Sweden, and it is also said that Sweden will aid Ukraine with personnel, weapons and other.

[The Moss Trooper]

Posted by Malisa (here)
Kiev is surrounded and Russian troops are in

There are reports that the Ukranian military has shielded themselves between habitational buildings and not allowing people to get away. They are using them as human shields now

Bridges and roads outside the city were preventively destroyed by the Ukrainian army. People are now trapped inside the war zone

https://t.me/asbmil/211
https://t.me/asbmil/214
https://t.me/asbmil/216

Great updates!

And I LOVE how your diction keeps changing......... Truly a gifted multi-linguist.


I truly admire Sir Walter Scott, if not for this alone: "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"


Some words just echo down the ages.....................

[Mashika]

I thought about this before but the one thing came to mind, most likely whatever materials were there have already been removed since long ago once they suspected or knew what was coming. Otherwise why would Russia destroy the labs, as opposed to taking them under control to inspect and see what the US was working on there?

Also just destroying the lab would release tremendous possible deathly amounts of viruses or others materials all over the place, i don't think that would work well for anyone involved including Russia

If these labs are gone, there's a big chance intelligence already knows they are now of no importance, there's nothing there of any value, in other words

Or

Russia already took all the materials out in a clandestine operation we have not heard about and probably never will and now the army is just cleaning up

That's what i would do, definitely. *if no one knows, then it never happened*

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Tintin (here)
Are US Biolabs being targeted?

Here's a somewhat eye-watering piece of research, which may carry some weight.

IF this is what is transpiring then we may be on the verge of Plandemic 2.0.

Source: Thread by @ War Clandestine on ThreadReader App (archived)

Whatever the case may be it's an interesting read:

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https://twitter.com/AnimalConnected/...41549028470784

[gnostic9]

This is a good analytical article on the Ukraine and Russia situation.


Worth a read.


https://www.activistpost.com/2022/02...lobalists.html


Love peace and joy to all!

[muxfolder]

Posted by Metaphor (here)

Posted by muxfolder (here)
Where are my Finnish and Swedish friends now? This is getting real. Just trying to get your opinion.

I find it hard to wade through msm fear porn and try to see what is propaganda to promote fear and what is actual truth. Its like covidreporting on steriods here in the swedish newspapers. The finnish people remember all to well when the russians tried to invade in 1941 and finally was beaten back in 1944, but I guess the russians at this time rather took the baltic states, if any. How are your own thought going with this, and how are the finns taking this?

I've been thinking how it is in Sweden and what are you going to do about, if we're on the same front. No ones really panicking here, probably because Sauli said we should not. He seems to be like Urho Kaleva Kekkonen of our time.Always somehow on the known. There are a lot of opinions that we should not be a part of NATO because the opposite says we should not. But there are a lot of we should. I don't know what to say. If both of our countries will join NATO it's going to be used as an excuse to invade here and maybe even Sweden. If we don't it'll be probably same because we didn't. I think Putin and his other whatever the **** you want to call it thinks the same. Plus they have shake hands with the Chinese. This is what I've been thinking for a long while. I did think that before that it's gonna be just Ukraine, but it seems to be something more now.

Anyway, we've been both already bullied by this asshole and his minions. What are we going to do about it?

[Mashika]

This was bound to happen

The Ukrainian army has delivered arms to civilians without giving them proper training, then since these civilians are not prepared to war, they attacked their own army out of fear, who replied and destroyed the civilian attack groups

Now the Ukrainian army has killed Ukranian civilians because they thought these were russian invaders in plain clothes

https://t.me/asbmil/232

[Metaphor]

Posted by muxfolder (here)

Posted by Metaphor (here)

Posted by muxfolder (here)
Where are my Finnish and Swedish friends now? This is getting real. Just trying to get your opinion.

I find it hard to wade through msm fear porn and try to see what is propaganda to promote fear and what is actual truth. Its like covidreporting on steriods here in the swedish newspapers. The finnish people remember all to well when the russians tried to invade in 1941 and finally was beaten back in 1944, but I guess the russians at this time rather took the baltic states, if any. How are your own thought going with this, and how are the finns taking this?

I've been thinking how it is in Sweden and what are you going to do about, if we're on the same front. No ones really panicking here, probably because Sauli said we should not. He seems to be like Urho Kaleva Kekkonen of our time.Always somehow on the known. There are a lot of opinions that we should not be a part of NATO because the opposite says we should not. But there are a lot of we should. I don't know what to say. If both of our countries will join NATO it's going to be used as an excuse to invade here and maybe even Sweden. If we don't it'll be probably same because we didn't. I think Putin and his other whatever the **** you want to call it thinks the same. Plus they have shake hands with the Chinese. This is what I've been thinking for a long while. I did think that before that it's gonna be just Ukraine, but it seems to be something more now.

Anyway, we've been both already bullied by this asshole and his minions. What are we going to do about it?

Yes things are building up to... something. And yes it could be a damned if you do damned if you dont scenario surrounding joining the NATO issue. Ive been prepping for some years and trying to better my skills in shooting, surviving without heating, and food, basic tactics for family to be safe etc. Perhaps not as crazy as people back then thought. Id be honoured fighting alongside the mighty finns against any outside agressor, but hopefully we dont have to go that far. Perkele (!!!), these are bad times indeed.

(for non finnish readers: "Perkele" is finnish for cursing/ swearing. It is used as an interjection to signify surprise (like “****!”, or “****!”). It means more or less “the devil” ...so im told by google. )

[Eva2]

A comment from a poster in a group: (views already expressed on this thread)

'Well my friends…..I’ve been digging and I think we have a strong indication that this is Putin taking out the Cabal’s infrastructure in the Ukraine. Remember the Hunter Biden Scandal - all the back door deals & money laundering that were being funnelled through the Ukraine - which includes the Obamas & Clintons - human trafficking added to that list. (Gotta thank Hunter Biden laptops for this one 👏👏&#128079
And Moderna FINALLY just got caught with its DNA sequence patent of the Coflu years prior 2020👇 Lest we forget that this Coflu was homegrown in a US lab in Fort Detrick before it got shipped off to China after the NIH was slammed by the US Supreme Court with an illegal patent because you can’t patent anything in Nature - which tells us it was never Natural to begin with - it’s a bio weapon 🤨
Oh and don’t forget Canada’s very own Chrystia Freeland is tied to the Ukraine too. She’s been really unnerved a lot lately on live TV looking like she has ADD can’t keep herself still for 2 seconds…Wonder why that would be 😏
And don’t you think it’s interesting timing that Trudeau removes the Federal EMA on the same day that Russia strikes Ukraine? Also both the Ukraine & Russian Presidents are telling Ukrainian citizens not to be concerned. Putin “This is a Military Operation - we are not occupying Ukraine”
Listen to Putins speech in 2016 talking about the Western World trying to crush Christianity and adopt the normalization of Pedophilia. He speaks against a Global Governance that wants to crush Sovereignty. (Globalists)
This doesn’t sound like a threat to the World. This sounds like a man who looks at the Cabal as a threat to the World 👇
Keep digging friends. All is not what it seems.

https://www.facebook.com/700945560/v...2141401074790/

https://youtu.be/tlaHubJ-fKk
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-china-nikolai-patrushev...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Fresh-lab-leak-fears...'

[indiana]

There's a startling lack of footage of this invasion. Especially with so many smart phones etc. I know there's a few videos going around of Russian tanks crossing the border but there's not much more than that. MSM have taken to reporting footage taken from SM purporting to be XYZ but saying it's "unconfirmed". I'm not for a moment saying the Russians haven't invaded but where's all the footage? And another question... are both armies largely avoiding each other?

[Mashika]

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, enabled by Belarus. We call on Russia to immediately cease its military assault, to withdraw all its forces from Ukraine and to turn back from the path of aggression it has chosen," the Brussels-based alliance said.

Let me rewrite that for a bit of context:

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms Ukraine's full-scale invasion of Donbass, enabled by the US. We call on Ukraine to immediately cease its military assault, to withdraw all its forces from Donbass and to turn back from the path of aggression it has chosen," the Brussels-based alliance said.

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How different the world would be if this had been said back then, but the hypocrisy of these people has no match in history. Now they care? After 13,000 civilians died in the hands of Nazy troops?

They knew all along and they did nothing. These words are empty, fake and foolish, just like the person throwing them out like rabbid spit out of being unable to have their usual power trip

Now they are listening, finally. But for all the wrong reasons.

[norman]

Posted by Malisa (here)
This is depressing, he trusted the wrong people and now the realisation that he was played and used has come

We were left alone. No one wants to fight for us. They don't want to take us to NATO, they are afraid to give security guarantees — Zelensky

This is very unlike him, he looks unkempt, wearing that shirt instead of the usual suit he likes, several days beard. I think he's feeling betrayed and very down. He really considered things would go different, but now he has just realised he was just a tool and Ukraine a sacrifice for the west goals


He has announced talks with Russia very soon, Ukraine will accept and sign off an agreement to be neutral, lots of things will change now if this happens

He looks like he's acting, and not very good acting.

Whatever the point is that's being sold there, it's probably crock.

[Patient]

Posted by indiana (here)
There's a startling lack of footage of this invasion. Especially with so many smart phones etc. I know there's a few videos going around of Russian tanks crossing the border but there's not much more than that. MSM have taken to reporting footage taken from SM purporting to be XYZ but saying it's "unconfirmed". I'm not for a moment saying the Russians haven't invaded but where's all the footage? And another question... are both armies largely avoiding each other?

I have footage, but it is not edited and just not something I would want to post - especially if the wrong family member was to see it somewhere down the line.

Trust me, things blew up and people died.

[indiana]

Posted by Patient (here)

Posted by indiana (here)
There's a startling lack of footage of this invasion. Especially with so many smart phones etc. I know there's a few videos going around of Russian tanks crossing the border but there's not much more than that. MSM have taken to reporting footage taken from SM purporting to be XYZ but saying it's "unconfirmed". I'm not for a moment saying the Russians haven't invaded but where's all the footage? And another question... are both armies largely avoiding each other?

I have footage, but it is not edited and just not something I would want to post - especially if the wrong family member was to see it somewhere down the line.

Trust me, things blew up and people died.

Not saying there isn't footage. Simply saying there's a spectacular lack of footage. Isn't there a Russian army marauding through Ukraine? Isn't there a Ukrainian army numbered in the 100's of 1000's in Ukraine? Two days into a full blown invasion, and given there must be several million smart phones with cameras and internet, there's not a lot of footage. And yes, I do trust you that "things blew up and people died.". I'm not being flippant about this. After two years of being utterly lied to - of being targeted by politicians and the bastard media as being an enemy of the nation for not participating in the global mass medical experiment - I'm not inclined to believe f*ck all from the media and politicians of ANY country. I would be far more inclined to believe actual footage from ordinary people... and like i said... I'm surprised there isn't a lot more videos of a Russian army in Ukraine.

[Mashika]

USA ready to help Zelensky leave Kiev - WaPo

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Personal opinion: This seems odd, why would you announce this move so openly? Unless... you want the world to know they are taking him out of Kiev, and then "something will go wrong" and he will die? He knows too much and Kiev is mostly down by now, it's just a matter of time before he gets captured.

He also said he agreed to talk to Russia and end this war. So i supposed he has become a liability for US interests now

How is the US planning to taking him out of Kiev, when there's no chance a plane can land and safely leave Kiev at this point?

It is truly my personal opinion, but i believe by posting this news openly the US is going use him as a martyr

Watch the timing, he had agreed with talks to Russia earlier today, he claimed he was "alone" now they US claims they will help him get out of Kiev. Announcing this immediately puts him in a dangerous situation, he now has a bigger mark on his head, he must be captured before he's able to escape

You only put such a big mark on someone's head when you want him dead

"Zelensky accepts Putin’s proposal, ready for peace talks"
https://tass.com/world/1411621

[Mashika]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)
This is depressing, he trusted the wrong people and now the realisation that he was played and used has come

We were left alone. No one wants to fight for us. They don't want to take us to NATO, they are afraid to give security guarantees — Zelensky

This is very unlike him, he looks unkempt, wearing that shirt instead of the usual suit he likes, several days beard. I think he's feeling betrayed and very down. He really considered things would go different, but now he has just realised he was just a tool and Ukraine a sacrifice for the west goals


He has announced talks with Russia very soon, Ukraine will accept and sign off an agreement to be neutral, lots of things will change now if this happens

He looks like he's acting, and not very good acting.

Whatever the point is that's being sold there, it's probably crock.

I'm looking at this from our point of view, most Ukrainians are naive, and can't say far more for Russians, we tend to trust easily, he has always been naive.

When we think we have met a good friend, then all the personal guards go down and you trust the friend much more than you should, by western standards, even sometimes inviting them home when you just met them one day ago, but truly don't know anything about them. Then in the middle of the night something happens and you stop trusting the person and throw them out, that's very regular thing to happen actually

That's probably how he got played into this position, i can recognise that dumb behavior easily

But who knows, he did not attend the School of the Americas lol, so he may not be trained into acting fake tears and emotions as much as Juan Guaido and other South American assets are

[Mashika]

https://www.rt.com/russia/550674-twi...ussia-ukraine/

Twitter has temporarily suspended the display of advertisements on its platform in Ukraine and Russia in a declared effort to make people’s safety a priority amid the military conflict between the two countries. Twitter noted that ads could distract users from the critical information.

it had also “paused some Tweet recommendations from people you don’t follow on Home Timeline to reduce the spread of abusive content.”

I suppose this means pausing all tweets that show information from the ground, so that people can only receive news from the main stream media accounts or the people they follow that is bias confirming

This is the "One single narrative" approach in the works

¤=[Post Update]=¤

"Belgrade will not join EU in sanctions against Russia, but won’t recognize Donbass republics either"
https://www.rt.com/russia/550658-ser...tions-ukraine/

Serbia will not join the EU sanctions against Russia over its military operation in Ukraine, President Aleksandar Vucic announced on Friday. Belgrade will also not recognize the Donetsk (DPR) and Lugansk (LPR) People’s Republics because it respects the territorial integrity of Ukraine, Vucic said.

He added that the Serbs consider both Russians and Ukrainians as “brotherly people,” saying that it makes watching the unfolding events in Ukraine difficult.

Most people both in Russia and Ukraine feel the same. It remains to be seen who instigated the division and for what purposes. This will be a task for the near future, if possible at all

[Mashika]

Posted by The Moss Trooper (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)
Kiev is surrounded and Russian troops are in

There are reports that the Ukranian military has shielded themselves between habitational buildings and not allowing people to get away. They are using them as human shields now

Bridges and roads outside the city were preventively destroyed by the Ukrainian army. People are now trapped inside the war zone

https://t.me/asbmil/211
https://t.me/asbmil/214
https://t.me/asbmil/216

Great updates!

And I LOVE how your diction keeps changing......... Truly a gifted multi-linguist.


I truly admire Sir Walter Scott, if not for this alone: "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"


Some words just echo down the ages.....................

Thank you, i've been trying very hard the past months to be strong in English, i did lack a lot of skills before, often having to depend on someone else to fix my mistakes. I feel more confident now but can't deny that i do use a translator for some words and also look on google for samples of sentences so i can learn the proper way to write them in real native english

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An update on the Ukranian military using human shields on Kiev

Now it has been mentioned in the UN, remains to be seen if this will be ignored or not

"Russian Envoy to the UN Says Nationalists in Ukraine Using Civilians as Human Shields"
https://sputniknews.com/20220226/rus...093380141.html

[Mashika]

More disinformation online

"Russian War In Ukraine - Russian Low Altitude Airstrike Nearly Hits House With Family Inside"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=h42d4fBKeBE

That's an Ukrainian plane, Russia doesn't fly those planes. This is very well known

This person posted that video and has 1.6 million followers, this is how disinformation disseminates. This is a plain shameless lie because this video was exposed several days ago as not being a Russian plane.

This person said "alleged" so to cover himself, because he knows it's not true. This again has been proven days ago, he's only adding that word in advance for when he gets called out, but otherwise his wording is clear on what he intends to do here

Read the comment section so you see how these lies affect and direct people's opinions

Reality: This is one Ukrainian plane hitting Ukrainian civilians. No explanation as to why except they need victims to showcase for approval and get help from the west while blaming Russia for it

[ThePythonicCow]

I firmly reject the main narratives being presented to explain recent events in the Ukraine. This is not essentially a modern day Great Power Game between Russia, China, US, UK, EU, Japan, India, ... that we're seeing.

Rather this is a Khazarian Mafia (KM) versus "sons of Adam" game, that has been ongoing for all of recorded history. This shows up more openly in our history books going back a thousand years to the public conversion by the Khazarians in central Asia to the Jewish religion, and to their since gaining substantial control of many major institutions, including world government and non-government organizations, Big Pharma, Big Oil, Big News, Universities, Maritime law, commerce, militaries and intelligence. The Anglo-American monetary systems, based on the debt-money British Pound, then the US Dollar, are major KM tools of control of our civilization.

We are met, on the fields of the Ukraine, in an early skirmish of the break out of a major war, that will be ongoing for years to come, in that epic contest. Putin has overthrown the KM control of Russia, from when it was known as the USSR. Russia has lost one or two hundred million of its people over the last century to the KM, in the Russian revolution that established the USSR, in Stalin's Holodomor that wiped out many in the Ukraine, in Stalin's gulags, and in the very brutal fighting against Hitler. Putin knows this well, and is determined to kick some serious butt.

It's a complex game being played, but I continue to hold Trump as being on the Christian, sons of Adam, side, aligned with Putin, when final push comes to shove. However both Putin and Trump have to sail with "false flags" at times, as they maneuver their way through this mess.

Xi may, or may not, be naturally aligned with Putin and Trump, as the KM, descendent from the central Asian mongols of Genghis Khan, are also natural enemies of many of the Chinese people. But at a very deep level, I don't speak, think or feel Chinese, and am quite ignorant of their culture, religion, and history.

The ordinary (i.e. the majority) of the people of Christian, Muslim, and Jewish faith, and descendants of Western European and Arabic lands are natural allies in this Great War. Many other "indigenous" people have been terrible victims in this Great War.

See further my latest Money Masters post, for Clif High's introduction to this history, and the nature of this war.

[Mashika]

I'm sorry friends from the west, but i will keep calling the BS of your governments non stop, until i can't

"Canada sanctions Putin, reveals stance on SWIFT
Ottawa has accused Moscow of waging a “war on freedom” with its military operation in Ukraine"
https://www.rt.com/russia/550675-tru...-putin-canada/

The Canadian PM has blamed the Russian leadership for the “barbaric war” against freedom and democracy as he announced the sanctions.

He did not think the last 8 years of murders in Donbass were barbaric, but now that a few people in Ukraine have died, now he notices?

The Canadian PM accused Russia of waging “war on freedom, on democracy, and on the rights of Ukrainians and all people to determine their own future,” while praising Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as “the embodiment of the courage of Ukrainian people.”

“I am inspired by his resolve and his devotion to his country,” Trudeau said.

You are a soulless hypocrite You are inspired by a Nazi coup, a Nazi army and the killing of 13,000 civilians in Donbass

There is no way you don't know about those events. So you are rotten to the very core of your soul. You ignored the killing it thousands of kids and elderly people, because it wasn't in your interest to call upon bringing justice to the Nazi Ukrainian government about it. By association and neglect, you are a war criminal. You have turned a blind eye to war crimes and crimes against humanity, you helped them and enabled them

Sit down, Justin Trudeau. You have not place on this conversation, sit down and stop talking. You are just a facist coward behind a microphone