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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    1) Earlier today Turkey announced its intention to close off the Black Sea to Russian warships, something it's entitled to do via the Montreux Convention. In a "time of war", Turkey is permitted to do that via international agreement. And Turkey has now made the judgment that this is war.

    But (a) Putin is unlikely to take that lying down. He's likely to take some kind of action of his own. And (b), Turkey is a NATO country. I've not heard discussion of this yet, but this sounds like a very dangerous potential escalation point. If Russia attacks a NATO country militarily, then all bets are off.
    A scenario for a false flag nuke IN TURKEY !?

    Turkey is a big place and a location to place a nuke ( from the Kursk submarine, or anywhere, a Russian nuke would be ideal ). Erdogan need not even know about it.

    They would need to build up a bit of news narrative to sell the resultant lie. Turkey closing the straight will do the trick for most sheeple.

    Explode the nuke, blame Putin, rally NATO to support Turkey ( a NATO member ).

    Off to the races, they hope. But, what if it turned into a chance to end NATO instead.
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    Not quite sure what the context of this odd Zelensky routine ( the last tweet) clip is or where it's from? - wondering if Biden, Johnson, Macron, Putin etc or any other 'elite' will be following suit and will do a dance off ala Footloose- Kevin Bacon style...



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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Are US Biolabs being targeted?

    Here's a somewhat eye-watering piece of research, which may carry some weight.

    IF this is what is transpiring then we may be on the verge of Plandemic 2.0.

    Source: Thread by @ War Clandestine on ThreadReader App (archived)

    Whatever the case may be...

    [...]
    ... reminded me of something:

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    it seems that some parties really are pushing the escalation agenda


    Ursula von der Leyen, European Commission President says "Ukraine is one of us and we want them in the European Union"

    https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/27/...tells-euronews

    https://www.ninefornews.nl/ursula-vo...it-escaleren/#

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    WOW I am once again suprised how well the russian propaganda is eaten up here. Wake the F up. Russia is killing innocent people and committing war crimes, and deserves every bit of the sanctions imposed, and then some. Anyone siding with Putin is saying it's ok to carpet bomb hospitals and civilians, attack another country, kill and rape women and children and so on. Get real. I don't want to be a part of a community who is siding with any of that. FCK PTN.

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    https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-ne...-february-2022
    Awareness awareness awareness
    Open your clouded eyes, so sorry, here's a great link to impartial news
    Last edited by avid; 28th February 2022 at 14:49.
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    This appears to be a genuine incident, and disturbing to say the least:

    Source: https://rumble.com/vvzxr5-ukrainian-...-the-city.html


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/vtdrph
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    Cavalry backing up the troops...


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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    US embassy just REMOVED all their Ukraine BIOWEAPON LAB DOCUMENTS from the website… Here they are…

    https://strangesounds.org/2022/02/us...-they-are.html

    These labs are co-run by Fauci’s EcoHealth Alliance and rumor is Russia’s entire military operation right now is unofficially to either secure and/or destroy these labs and gather evidence.

    So here's another slant on whats going on there, remember everything has a deflection screen to it , and who's involved in this , drum roll................... None over than the beagle slayer himself Frankenstein FAUCI, our new household word. Keeping you eye on the ball is getting more difficult isn't it? And just what the hell does Ukraine need 11 bioweapons labs for, why does any country need this?

    Just watched the video above my post, things aren't always as them seem are they?
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    WOW I am once again suprised how well the russian propaganda is eaten up here. Wake the F up. Russia is killing innocent people and committing war crimes, and deserves every bit of the sanctions imposed, and then some. Anyone siding with Putin is saying it's ok to carpet bomb hospitals and civilians, attack another country, kill and rape women and children and so on. Get real. I don't want to be a part of a community who is siding with any of that. FCK PTN.
    Notice Schwab playing both sides, endorsing Putin as a WEF leader and then saying he doesn't agree with invading Ukraine.

    But the pandemic is a good thing that brings about a global reset.
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    Quote Posted by Sérénité (here)
    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Thanks for verbalizing that... perhaps Putin and the Russian Army are actually Draining the Swamp in Ukraine... something Trump wanted to do in America, but couldn't when it came to it because the Swamp (NWO Deep State) were too deeply embedded in the US...and they (Swamp) don't give an inch and double down at the first sign of trouble and become very ruthless and dangerous...
    You might want to take a look at this article jaybee. POTUS Trump was cleaning house way back in 2017.

    DUMBS - CLEANING OUT THE EVIL BELOW

    U.S. ARMY IS SPENDING HALF A BILLION TO TRAIN SOLDIERS TO FIGHT UNDERGROUND

    To get a perspective of the size and committment to this warfare " 26 of 31 active brigades " are training in this warfare.

    What's it about? Cleaning out the deep state cult and saving the trafficked children.

    Military.com
    24 June 2018

    Quote:
    " Late last year (2017), the Army launched an accelerated effort that funnels some $572 million into training and equipping 26 of its 31 active combat brigades to fight in large-scale subterranean facilities that exist beneath dense urban areas around the world...
    An assessment last year estimates that there are about 10,000 large-scale underground military facilities around the world that are intended to serve as subterranean cities, an Army source, who is not cleared to talk to the press, told Military.com. "

    Link: https://www.military.com/daily-news/...IWSc3cm7ZRZ7Z0
    Your post caught my eye after something I’ve noticed happen recently, near where I live.

    I have an app that logs all air traffic including helicopters.

    There is occasionally a lot of military flying over and other air traffic that’s really noisy and sparks an interest, so I keep a watch.

    About a month ago it was one of those times the noise caught my attention and I tracked a military helicopter flying over.
    It was showing as coming from Imjin Barracks in Gloucestershire, which is home to NATOs ARRC (Allied Rapid Reaction Corps) for high readiness.

    It landed in a very rural field not far from where I live and stayed there for several hours.
    I was a bit puzzled and it made no sense why they’d fly some 100 odd miles north and land in a remote field in the middle of nowhere, then flew back again.

    Some days later after a conversation with a friend about it, it dawned on me there is entrances to a vast underground cave network spanning some several miles in every direction not far from where they landed.
    It got me wondering was they on some type of training exercise as it’s the only viable reason I could come up with them being here.
    Alarm bells are ringing if the troops heading out to this cave network where US Military or UK military or regular police I would say it is a positive thing. But NATO like WEF, WHO, UN basically any international global bureaucratic system works for the satanic cabal.

    Having said that there is a global cleanout being spearheaded by the US military as indicated by the article and they have all intelligence on facilities and are cleaning them out.
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    The plot thickens: "Switzerland's historic neutrality is no longer: moments ago Reuters reported that the Swiss government had joined the EU in adopting sanctions on Russia, freezing assets of targeted companies and people effective immediately". https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hi...nctions-russia

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    Are US Biolabs being targeted?

    Here's a somewhat eye-watering piece of research, which may carry some weight.

    IF this is what is transpiring then we may be on the verge of Plandemic 2.0.

    Source: Thread by @ War Clandestine on ThreadReader App (archived)

    Whatever the case may be...

    [...]
    ... reminded me of something:
    Yup, me too

    As I've speculated before, off the back of Dilyana's work, the Plandemic could have been started from multiple seedings in various geographic locations globally. That's the most likely scenario, in my view.

    For those that haven't watched it yet see Diplomatic Viruses.
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    https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/...1paBMsRWlqGhdQ


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    Approximate map outlining the front lines in Ukraine on 27/2/22. © @miladvisor/Twitter



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    Quote Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
    [...]

    Notice Schwab playing both sides, endorsing Putin as a WEF leader and then saying he doesn't agree with invading Ukraine.

    But the pandemic is a good thing that brings about a global reset.
    ... looks like "they" are gonna try to re-run "Putin as the savior of the world" program... now, with all those frozen accounts all over the place, maybe to keep Biden's ice (on the cake) cream from a meltdown? Everyone is flat broke but Russia, apparently.

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    Quote Posted by take (here)
    WOW I am once again suprised how well the russian propaganda is eaten up here. Wake the F up. Russia is killing innocent people and committing war crimes, and deserves every bit of the sanctions imposed, and then some. Anyone siding with Putin is saying it's ok to carpet bomb hospitals and civilians, attack another country, kill and rape women and children and so on. Get real. I don't want to be a part of a community who is siding with any of that. FCK PTN.
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    So I sent my friend who has relatives in the Ukraine his perspective , after reading, is this outrageous and unacceptable for the people/citizens of the Ukraine ? Most indefinitely yes, they are the losers and have suffered enough either way, then there is the unknown of those corrupt pieces of cowdung that have had their hands in the cookie jar that none of us trust. Reading the following really helped me understand more why the good people of the Ukraine are making a stand. And validity to TAKES position as well.

    IN THE 20 TH CENTURY UKRAINE WAS FORCIBLY TAKEN OVER, PLUNDERED, AND ENSLAVED UNDER THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST USSR BY FORCE, A FEW YEARS AFTER THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST REVOLUTION OF 1917. OVER 90 PERCENT OF UKRAINE'S ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN PRIESTS WERE EXECUTED AND THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION WAS BANNED AND SEVERELY PERSECUTED BY ATHEIST COMMUNIST RUSSIAN SECRET POLICE, THE NKVD, WHICH THEN BECAME KGB, AND TODAY ARE THE FSB. . .

    UKRAINIANS ARE A SEPARATE ETHNIC CULTURAL, AND HISTORIC PEOPLE AND NOT RUSSIAN AND NOT RELATED TO RUSSIAN PEOPLE ETHNICALLY OR CULTURALLY. .

    THE ORIGINAL UKRAINIAN NATION STATE BEFORE IT WAS CALLED UKRAINE DOES IN FACT HISTORICALLY PREDATE RUSSIA BY HUNDREDS OF YEARS., (KIEVAN-RUS). UKRAINE NEVER CONQUERED OR OPPRESSED ANY NATIONS, UNLIKE RUSSIA WHICH WAS AND STILL IS A PREDATOR, AND HAS SUBJUGATED ONE SEVENTH OF THE ENTIRE WORLD'S SURFACE , INCLUDING SIBERIA. . .

    WHEN THE TSAR ROYAL FAMILY (ROMANOV DYNASTY) RULED RUSSIA THEY STOLE CRIMEA AND ALMOST OUTLAWED THE UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE. (CRIMEA --LOCATED IN SOUTHERN UKRAINE WAS TEMPORARILY GIVEN BACK AFTER WW 2, BUT INVADED AGAIN AND STOLEN BY PUTIN BY FORCE IN 2014, .AND OBAMA DID NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE, NO REAL SANCTIONS...

    IN 1932-33 COMMUNIST DICTATOR JOSEPH STALIN IMPOSED BY FORCE AN ARTIFICIAL MAN MADE FAMINE TO FORCIBLY SURROUND-STARVE OUT UKRAINIANS WHO WOULD NOT GIVE UP THEIR FREE ENTERPRISE FAMILY OPERATED FARMS WHO (HAD OPERATED THESE FARMS FOR CENTURIES)--TO SOVIET COMMUNIST- COLLECTIVIZATION.

    HISTORICALLY THIS IS THE HOLODOMOR, A GREAT HUNGER- GENOCIDE OF 1932-33. .

    ESTIMATES RANGE FROM AS HIGH AS 7 MILLION TO AS HIGH AS 10 MILLION WERE KILLED. COMMUNIST ARE ATHEISTS AND PERSECUTE CHRISTIANITY. UKRAINAINS ARE DEVOUT HISTORICAL CHRISTIANS AND STILL ARE. FROM THE PERIOD OF THE ROYAL TSAR FAMILIES WHO PLUNDERED, DESTROYED, AND ROBBED UKRAINE FOR ALL THEY COULD GET, NOT MUCH CHANGED WHEN THE COMMUNISTS TOOK OVER AND ENSLAVED UKRAINE -UNTIL 1991 WHEN UKRAINE DECLARED INDEPENDENCE AT THE POINT OF THE FALL OF SOVIET UNION-THE IRON CURTAIN.

    OTHER FORMER "CAPTIVE NATIONS" FOLLOWED SUIT AND THE USSR DISSOLVED, AT WHICH POINT THE NEWS MEDIA STARTED PERPETUATING THE MESSAGE THAT THE COLD WAR WAS OVER---HARDLY NOT....

    THEREFORE, AFTER 1991 UKRAINE--NEWLY AN INDEPENDENT NATION, WAS THEN THE THIRD MOST POWERFUL NATION ON EARTH BECAUSE A LARGE PORTION OF USSR-(RUSSIA'S) NUCLEAR ARSENAL WAS LEFT IN ICBM SILOS, MOBILE LAUNCHERS, BLACK SEA NAVAL ASSETS, ALONG WITH MUCH CONVENTIONAL ARMAMENT-RESOURCES REMAINING ON UKRAINIAN SOIL AND TERRITORIAL WATERS. .

    THE BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT WAS A DOCUMENT WHICH WAS FORMULATED DURING BILL CLINTON'S ERA THAT PROVIDED PROTECTION GUARANTEES TO PROTECT THE SOVEREIGN LAND AND TERRITORY OF UKRAINE BY THE USA, ENGLAND AND RUSSIA, YES RUSSIA, --HOW IRONIC.

    THIS BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT DOCUMENT GUARANTEED TO PROTECT UKRAINE';S SOVEREIGNTY---*IF THEY GAVE UP THE ACTIVE NUKES AND LARGE WEAPONS SYSTEMS REMAINING ON THEIR SOIL FROM THE SOVIET UNION--WHO ENSLAVED UKRAINE AS A CAPTIVE NATION FOR OVER 70 YEARS UNDER A COMMUNIST POLICE STATE. .

    UKRAINE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT TRUSTING IN THE DOCUMENT SIGNED BY USA, ENGLAND, AND IRONICALLY RUSSIA. THE NUKES AND MUCH, MUCH, CONVENTIONAL STORES OF COLD WAR ERA WEAPONS-- WERE REMOVED FROM UKRAINIAN SOIL ,AND MONITORED AND DISMANTLED TO ENSURE WORLD PEACE ????

    UKRAINE HAS BEEN INFILTRATED SINCE 1991 BY MOSCOW'S MANIPULATION OF THE THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND POLITICAL -GOVERNMENT LEVELS IN ATTEMPTS TO RETAKE CONTROL OF UKRAINE BY RUSSIA--GRADUALLY AND INCREMENTALLY.

    PUTIN IS TIED TO THE POISONING ATTACK OF UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT VICTOR YUSCHENKO WHOSE FOOD WAS POISONED IN 2004.

    SINCE THE PERIOD OF 2004-2022 THERE HAS CLEARLY BEEN A PERIOD OF BETRAYAL OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM DOCUMENT FOR UKRAINE'S SOVEREIGN PROTECTION , AND A GRADUAL EROSION OF UKRAINIAN SOVEREIGNTY.

    TODAY WE SEE THE BEGINNINGS OF WHAT IS A REPEAT OF HISTORICAL ENSLAVEMENT, OPPRESSION, AND LOSS OF FREEDOM AT THE HANDS OF THE RUSSIANS --ALL OVER AGAIN. UKRAINAIANS ARE NOT ETHNIC RUSSIANS, CONTRARY TO PUTIN'S LIES AND ABUSE, BUT TO THE CONTRARY UKRAINIANS ARE PATRIOTS, HISTORICALLY CHRISTIAN AND WANT FREE ENTERPRISE, DEMOCRACY, AND TIES TO THE WESTERN NATIONS, AND CHOOSE TO BE INDEPENDENT OF RUSSIAN ENSLAVEMENT AND HISTORICAL ABUSE.

    THE BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM DOCUMENT HAS BEEN VIOLATED , NULLIFIED AND VOIDED.....

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    Quote Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

    By Jo Becker and Mike McIntire
    April 23, 2015
    The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

    The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

    But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

    At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

    And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

    At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.

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