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    Unsurprisingly, the game in Ukraine is unfolding as being about gas reserves, and Royal Dutch Shell with its strong Rothschild shareholding is in the thick of it, along with Joe Biden’s son and others getting involved. If you look more closely at perhaps all of these actions across the globe, you find the resource grab behind it. It has been going on for decades if not centuries. Look more closely at the so-called Nigerian schoolgirl kidnapping and you’ll find it there, too.

    This video gives an excellent quick snapshot.

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    Default Re: The energy giants are the drivers in Ukraine

    Of course they are, but see what the New York Times says. Funny.

    In Taking Crimea, Putin Gains a Sea of Fuel Reserves

    "When Russia seized Crimea in March, it acquired not just the Crimean landmass but also a maritime zone more than three times its size with the rights to underwater resources potentially worth trillions of dollars.

    Russia portrayed the takeover as reclamation of its rightful territory, drawing no attention to the oil and gas rush that had recently been heating up in the Black Sea. But the move also extended Russia’s maritime boundaries, quietly giving Russia dominion over vast oil and gas reserves while dealing a crippling blow to Ukraine’s hopes for energy independence.

    Russia did so under an international accord that gives nations sovereignty over areas up to 230 miles from their shorelines. It had tried, unsuccessfully, to gain access to energy resources in the same territory in a pact with Ukraine less than two years earlier.

    "It’s a big deal,” said Carol R. Saivetz, a Eurasian expert in the Security Studies Program of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “It deprives Ukraine of the possibility of developing these resources and gives them to Russia. It makes Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian pressure.”

    Gilles Lericolais, the director of European and international affairs at France’s state oceanographic group, called Russia’s annexation of Crimea “so obvious” as a play for offshore riches."
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    Thank for this. Don't be embarrassed to spread the word.
    This story really does need to be told.

    Natural gas was leading us into a war with Russia before Nabucco had even fallen apart.

    The gears of betrayal were already turning.


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    Default Re: The energy giants are the drivers in Ukraine

    the Ukraine's biggest resource may not be its natural gas reserves but its very fertile soil; the Ukraine has always been known as the breadbasket of Europe so maybe there's something else going on here, like getting a political hold of a major food supplier: "if you control oil you can control nations; if you control food you can control people"- attributed to Henry Kissinger

    nothing is the way it appears on the surface (I think we all know that already) so it's just a hunch of mine the natural gas bit may be an important contributing factor in this muck but it's not the crux reason-

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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    the Ukraine's biggest resource may not be its natural gas reserves but its very fertile soil; the Ukraine has always been known as the breadbasket of Europe so maybe there's something else going on here, like getting a political hold of a major food supplier: "if you control oil you can control nations; if you control food you can control people"- attributed to Henry Kissinger

    nothing is the way it appears on the surface (I think we all know that already) so it's just a hunch of mine the natural gas bit may be an important contributing factor in this muck but it's not the crux reason-

    Larry

    you might be onto something.
    remember the german dust bowl pics a year or two ago?
    climate change happens whether or not people cause it, lol --

    Ukraine could be extremely desirable for that reason, as you said....

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    Of course they are, but see what the New York Times says. Funny.

    In Taking Crimea, Putin Gains a Sea of Fuel Reserves

    "When Russia seized Crimea in March, it acquired not just the Crimean landmass but also a maritime zone more than three times its size with the rights to underwater resources potentially worth trillions of dollars.

    Russia portrayed the takeover as reclamation of its rightful territory, drawing no attention to the oil and gas rush that had recently been heating up in the Black Sea. But the move also extended Russia’s maritime boundaries, quietly giving Russia dominion over vast oil and gas reserves while dealing a crippling blow to Ukraine’s hopes for energy independence.

    Russia did so under an international accord that gives nations sovereignty over areas up to 230 miles from their shorelines. It had tried, unsuccessfully, to gain access to energy resources in the same territory in a pact with Ukraine less than two years earlier.

    "It’s a big deal,” said Carol R. Saivetz, a Eurasian expert in the Security Studies Program of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “It deprives Ukraine of the possibility of developing these resources and gives them to Russia. It makes Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian pressure.”

    Gilles Lericolais, the director of European and international affairs at France’s state oceanographic group, called Russia’s annexation of Crimea “so obvious” as a play for offshore riches."
    It was Russia or US, who had greater right...? US? don't think so... And if Ukraine wants to form a government, by hijacking the existing government they lost all credibility. They just made themselves out to be whores.
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    Default Re: The energy giants are the drivers in Ukraine

    In my view, the first objective of the Ukrain coup is to further the NWO agenda.
    The access to resources is just a natural byproduct.

    By overthrowing the legit democratically chosen government in the Ukrain, the corporate USA has now for the first time shown it's true intentions in how they want to unfold this NWO plan imo.
    Also for the first time, they directly risk war with a nuclear super power and this shows how determined and probably even desperate they are.

    To quote dr. Paul Craig Roberts: "They want world hegemony"

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    Default Re: The energy giants are the drivers in Ukraine

    This was posted many years back & found it of interest that some members were onto things already...

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