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    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    "Originally posted on June 18th, 2010, the article “Biolab Opens in Ukraine” details how Obama, while serving as an Illinois Senator, helped negotiate a deal to build a level-3 bio-safety lab in the Ukrainian city of Odessa.

    The article, which also highlighted the work of former Senator Dick Lugar, was additionally included in Issue No. 818 of the United States Air Force (USAF) Counterproliferation Center’s Outreach Journal.

    “Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then-Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu,” explained author Tina Redlup."



    https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03...iolab-efforts/
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110522...ens-in-ukraine
    Biolab opens in Ukraine
    by Tina Redlup on June 18, 2010

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    Sen. Dick Lugar

    U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar applauded the opening of the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine, this week, announcing that it will be instrumental in researching dangerous pathogens used by bioterrorists.

    The level-3 bio-safety lab, which is the first built under the expanded authority of the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program, will be used to study anthrax, tularemia and Q fever as well as other dangerous pathogens.

    “The continuing cooperation of Nunn-Lugar partners has improved safety for all people against weapons of mass destruction and potential terrorist use, in addition to advancements in the prevention of pandemics and public health consequences,” Lugar said.

    Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu.

    The Nunn-Lugar Act, which established the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, was established in 1991. Since that time it has provided funding and assistance to help the former Soviet Union dismantle and safeguard large stockpiles of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. The program has also been responsible for destroying chemical weapons in Albania, Lugar said.
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    New today from J.R. Nyquist, after sitting on his hands and posting nothing for a full couple of weeks.

    When I read or listen to Nyquist, I always learn something. I feel his views and analysis are always interesting and deserve a lot of respect. But in the article below, when he writes...
    Quote NATO is not ready for war. America is not ready for war. How can anyone believe that the West is trying to start a war they are not ready for? It makes no sense. And look at our internal divisions? We are in no shape to be fighting a war when we are so divided at home.
    ...I'd suggest that America has provoked Putin into a war knowing with certainty that Putin will win, and that Europe and North America (many other countries, too) will end up in deep and serious financial and supply chain crisis, while Russia and China find themselves in a new military and economic alliance.

    And that may be exactly the well-planned intention of the globalists, who are calling all the high-level shots.

    ~~~
    An American Plot
    …in February 2014, Putin’s ‘little green men’ … seized control of Ukraine’s Crimea. Consistent with Putin’s information warfare doctrine, several days prior to the invasion, Russian intelligence services … leaked a private telephone call between Assistant Secretary of State for Russian and European Affairs Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. The two U.S. diplomats in the intercepted phone call discussed who would be the best candidate among the top opposition figures, to replace the ousted pro-Russia president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovich.
    — Rebekah Koffler, DIA officer[i]
    Nothing in the Nuland-Pyatt conversation proves that American officials orchestrated the Euromaidan Revolution. In fact, with all the resources available to Russian intelligence you would think Moscow could have come up with something more substantial than a diplomatic non sequitur. Yet many Americans, convinced of the wickedness of their own country, have treated the Nuland-Pyatt conversation as proof that America stole Ukraine from Russia (as if Ukraine is an easy country to take over).

    In 2014, when Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown, Barack Obama, a.k.a. Barry Soetero, a.k.a. Barack Soebarkah, was President of the United States. We have to ask ourselves: Why would Obama want to overthrow Yanukovych? Given Obama’s friendly policies toward Russia during his first term, it makes no sense. Obama was not interested in military competition with Russia. He did not build up the U.S. military and he was not interested in renewing America’s nuclear arsenal. Why, then, would he have bothered to take over Ukraine?

    It is important to remember that Obama and Putin had both been Marxists. Obama was mentored by a communist party member named Frank Marshall Davis, who was suspected by the FBI of being a KGB agent.[ii] Putin had been a member of the Communist Party and worked for the KGB. (We also know that Obama was a Marxist when he attended Occidental College.)[iii] And yet, none of Obama’s autobiographical books explain why or even when he abandoned his Marxist faith.

    And this is true for Putin as well. In fact, Putin has said that he still likes communist ideas. He has even said that Christianity and Leninism are basically the same, that communism comes from the Bible.[iv] So when the Russian special services present the private conversation of Obama’s underlings as a plot to take Ukraine away from Russia, what do they suppose Obama’s motive was? Why would he do this? Barack Obama was not Putin’s enemy. And yet, this is somehow what we are supposed to believe.

    And now that a war has broken out, with Russia invading Ukraine, it is disconcerting to hear people say that the West is looking for an excuse to attack Russia. But the West does not want war with Russia. This would be madness and everybody knows it. In fact, the side that wants war is the side that is prepared to win. That side is only found in Moscow and Beijing.

    NATO is not ready for war. America is not ready for war. How can anyone believe that the West is trying to start a war they are not ready for? It makes no sense. And look at our internal divisions? We are in no shape to be fighting a war when we are so divided at home.

    And so, looking back on Victoria Nuland in 2014, we do not find an international mastermind. We find a sorry excuse for a public servant making nasty remarks that are being taped by Russian intelligence. I submit that America’s diplomats lacked the basic competence required to organize a coup in Ukraine. And so, the masterminds of this present war are not in Washington or Brussels or Davos. The masterminds are in Moscow and Beijing.

    It is sad to say, however, that many otherwise intelligent Americans mistake Russian pre-war propaganda for proof of American wickedness. Consider Ted Galen Carpenter’s 2017 piece at the CATO Institute, titled “America’s Ukraine Hypocrisy.”[v] Here, Carpenter suggests that two diplomatic blunderers, blabbing to each other over an open phone line for all the world to hear, inspired and directed a revolution in Ukraine.

    That really is an extraordinary thesis. Carpenter accepts Moscow’s interpretation of this call on its face and pours it through the sieve of his distorted political imagination. Carpenter’s final product confuses the antics of Senator John McCain with a vast revolutionary conspiracy even as he ascribes omnicompetence to Obama’s political boobies.

    What does Carpenter think our diplomats chatter about in private? Does he think they talk about the weather? A diplomat on foreign soil represents his government’s views and interests. Demonizing those interests is, of course, in the interest of America’s enemies. Carpenter, thus, does not know on what side his own bread is buttered. And he is not alone.

    Regarding our country’s blameworthiness, let me clarify, so that nobody mistakes the message or the nuance. Are America’s leaders honest? Not entirely. It does not follow, however, that America’s leaders are the authors of all the mischief in the world, or all the evil, or that they have caused the war in Ukraine. And here is a word to the wise: if you want to talk about wicked rulers, talk about the leaders in Moscow and Beijing.

    Think of Russia’s gulag with its political prisoners. Think of China’s laogai and the killing of innocent people to harvest their organs. Did you know that the police in Russia and China use torture? Their citizens have no real rights. Look at the way in which China has crushed Tibet and Ukraine is being Crushed by Russia.

    Think of what has been done to the Uyghurs and the Chechens. Those who have no sense of history might pontificate on the corruption of America, but our worst politicians are tearful little girls when compared to Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin. The embezzlements, the muzzling of countless millions, the wholesale looting of countries, the killing of journalists and freethinkers, the poisoning of the human mind, and now the destruction of Ukraine.

    Americans who embrace Russian propaganda seem to think that if American politicians lie, then Russian politicians must be truthful. The corollary of this error follows: That if America is led by bad men, then Vladimir Putin is a good man. The correct syllogism, however, is found in Swiss historian Jacob Burckhardt’s statement “that power is in itself evil.”[vi]

    Putin is possessed of more unchecked power than any American politician. That is why Putin is more evil and more dangerous than the President of the United States. The corollary to this is that the Russian government has more power over Russians than the American government has over Americans.

    “Every power,” noted Jacob Burckhardt, “as long as its period of growth lasts … has no regard for the rights of the weaker.”[vii] Burkhardt’s associate, Friedrich Nietzsche, wrote that a state “is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: ‘I, the state, am the people.’”[viii]

    The state is a fearful master and must be crafted with many checks and balances in mind. And the biggest check on state power is the people. It is shameful, in this context, that so many conservatives are condemning Ukraine as a corrupt country when, in truth, the Ukrainian people have put us to shame. Please note: In December 2004 there was a crooked election in Ukraine; but the Ukrainian people did not accept it. They began what was called “the Orange Revolution,” which forced a revote.

    And then, after mistakenly electing a Russian stooge in 2010, the Ukrainian people drove him out of office with the Maidan uprising of 2013-2014. Meanwhile, the Americans have failed to correct a fraudulent election and to drive their Russian (and Chinese) stooge from office. Therefore, it hardly seems fair that Americans should be passing judgment on Ukraine as a corrupt country.

    Furthermore, Ukraine has been bombed and invaded by Russia – the world’s premier nuclear power. Look how the Ukrainian people have risen to the occasion. When America is bombed and invaded, I hope and pray that Americans show the same spirit of resistance.

    Diana West recently wrote a column in which she quoted my remark about feeding Ukraine to the Russian crocodile so that we might be eaten last. She then suggested that America may have already been fed to the crocodile. But this cannot be the case. There is no gulag here, as yet. Our freedom of speech remains. If invaded, our troops would resist even as the Ukrainians are resisting. Perhaps my use of the crocodile metaphor was imprecise.

    Perhaps we have been stung by a snake whose venom serves as a kind of digestive juice; for America is too large a meal for swallowing without careful preparation. The communists behind the Russian and Chinese regimes have, indeed, injected America with poison; and this poison is tenderizing and dissolving us from within. No doubt! Yet there may be an antidote; and, as long we are not inside the reptile’s stomach there is hope.

    For those who think the leaders of the Democratic Party are genuinely opposed to Moscow and Beijing, please review the following linked videos. The first one shows Obama talking about his communist mentor, Frank.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE

    Then there is this “hot mic” exchange between President Obama and Russian President Medvedev in March 2012:


    Next watch Obama sharing a joke with Vladimir Putin, now returned to office as Russian president, during a June 2012 G-20 meeting.



    Links and Notes

    [i] Rebekah Koffler, Putin’s Playbook: Russia’s Secret Plan to Defeat America (Kindle edition), pp. 158-159.
    [ii] Frank Marshall Davis – KeyWiki.
    [iii] Interview: Obama Had Marxist Vision For US At Occidental College – Freedom Outpost (investortimes.com). Obama reportedly told one of his classmates, “There’s going to be a revolution, we need to be organized and grow the movement.” According to Dr. John Drew, “I know Stanley Kurtz’s book, Radical in Chief, that Obama had ties with the Midwest Academy. Kind of like the socialist training ground for America. I think that most Americans don’t understand that Obama has a longstanding tie to Marxism, that is even longer than his ties to Reverend Wright.”
    [iv] Putin Says Communism Comes From the Bible, Compares Lenin to a Saint (newsweek.com).
    [v] America’s Ukraine Hypocrisy | Cato Institute
    [vi] Jacob Burckhardt, Reflections on History (Indianapolis: Liberty Classics, 1979), pp. 67.
    [vii] Ibid, p. 66.
    [viii] Friedrich Nietzsche trans. Thomas Common, Thus Spake Zarathustra (New York: The Modern Library), p. 49.
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    A new 5-minute interview with Col Douglas Macgregor, who's as sober, balanced, straight and sane as ever.

    Much of this is about the biolabs, also referring to Victoria Nuland. He also offers his opinion that the only person who could really broker a truce would be Biden — but he doesn't actually mention that (of course) Biden would be quite personally incapable of doing that.


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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    I forgot to mention the second half of Paperclip as posted above.

    In Europe, the U. S. basically bought the German spy ring. Effectively, all they did was recruit a gang of double agents. I am not sure if any useful information ever came out of it, and it took years to figure out what was going on and replace them.


    Well, as you know, some kind of critical intelligence failure was responsible for the world's most heavily-protected airspace to be violated four times in a row on 9/11
    . And out of that little booboo, we got an opportunity to purchase a De-part-ment of Homeland Security. Its mission, to prevent such attacks.

    And to its credit, it has never shown that it prevented a single thing.
    Do you really believe that shaberon?

    Do you also believe 19 hijackers hijacked four planes on 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden in a cave in Afghanistan planned the operation?

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    If you think you live on the 'land of the free' and in a real 'Democracy' then go out with a Russian flag and yell "Slava Russiya!" on every stop and see what happens. Or if you have a business place a Russian flag on your window along with a sign that says "We support Russia"

    If you feel that would be a bad choice that puts your business and you/your family in danger, then you have answered yourself this question "Do i live on the free world and in a real democratic society?"
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    Quote Posted by 1212is24 (here)

    ...
    I do remember when I was in Bangkok airport on the way home, feeling quite drunk and tired, and some Russians came up to me and started speaking sputnik. They were clearly drunk. I remember feeling like, wow, I'm actually not that drunk compared to these guys. It was unbelievable. They just approached me and my friends randomly. Who knows what they wanted. But it's the kind of thing I would normally do. Even in that moment I was like, wow, I am just not on their level. I had a similar experience once in Mallorca, waiting in an airport lounge for an early morning flight back to the mainland. An Irish trio emerged and placed a bluetooth speaker on the floor, sat down together and started drinking cups of vodka. It was 7am or so. The airport was quite full, and everyone was like wtf... But if I could have that time again I would've joined them.

    Do you think Russians are decent people? I've always admired their harsh, honest demeanour. A scene from The Simpsons comes to mind:
    Yes they are decent people. I can attest to that. I have been to Russia many times
    and have several close Russian friends.
    I was even in Moscow when Snowden was holed up at the airport!

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    It hurts seeing those guys acting so naive. And i'm sorry to say it like this, but they are tremendously uneducated

    "CRINGE! White House Recruits TikTokers to Spread Anti-Russian Propaganda"


    ETA:
    If you look at this guy, how he talks, how he looks at the camera, he barely resembles a thinking person. He's just repeating lines that were shoved into his brain, even his eyes look so odd. I don't know why but he seems a bit off. Is the CIA or other US organization triggering something on those people, something they placed there before, like on sleepers?

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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    If you think you live on the 'land of the free' and in a real 'Democracy' then go out with a Russian flag and yell "Slava Russiya!" on every stop and see what happens. Or if you have a business place a Russian flag on your window along with a sign that says "We support Russia"

    If you feel that would be a bad choice that puts your business and you/your family in danger, then you have answered yourself this question "Do i live on the free world and in a real democratic society?"
    Dear Malisa, I do not want to play with words but yes, it is a democratic society – and, only democratic societies could come up with such stupidity and primitive hatred.

    What is a democratic society? It is a society where the leaders are (hopefully in a non-rigged, non-manipulated way) elected by voters. As the rule is "one person = one vote", the consequence is that the leaders of a democracy are elected by the average citizen of that democracy.

    The average citizen means: a person with IQ 100. It also means a person with EQ 100. And I might wish to add: with HQ (= health quotient) 100. Mind (IQ), soul (EQ) and body (HQ). Average. Such an average person is too dumb to understand complex issues, too egoistical to love humans and animals, and eats fast food at least half of the time.

    Any political entity should not be led by the average, but by the best. The old Greek philosophers used to say: not by the demos (the sheeple), but by the aristoi (the best). People with high intelligence, high empathy, and in good health.

    As this is not the case in "democracies", and quite logically so as the "constitution" of these political bodies forbids it, we have the problems that we have, and that will continue to be the case until the political system as such is changed.

    There have been attempts, and the crisis we are in prompt quite a number of promising lines of thought. Chances are, however, that they will be "democratically" rejected by the "democracies".

    Churchill’s famous statement that democracies are the "least bad" political entities is a lie. They have “democratically" led to the election of the leaders the average citizen deserves.
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    The Brazilian writer
    Paulo Coelho has said that the Russian invasion of Ukraine has unleashed a climate of "Russophobia".

    Coelho, who authored the acclaimed novel "The Alchemist", wrote in a Twitter post: "Ukraine crisis a convenient excuse for Russophobia".

    The writer was widely condemned by social media users, many of whom urged Coelho to acknowledge the devastating impact of the Russian invasion and to publish photos of the victims and destruction caused by the Russian army.

    Addressing the criticism, Coelho followed up, writing: "I was in Lviv, Kyiv, Odessa, Yalta, Chernobyl (Ukraine). I covered 10,000 km by train from Moscow to Vladivostok (Russia). Yes, there is a war: but do not blame ordinary people ".

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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)

    ETA:
    If you look at this guy, how he talks, how he looks at the camera, he barely resembles a thinking person. He's just repeating lines that were shoved into his brain, even his eyes look so odd. I don't know why but he seems a bit off. Is the CIA or other US organization triggering something on those people, something they placed there before, like on sleepers?
    In my own mind I am doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to reconcile the disconnect between my logic brain and my intuitive mind.

    My logic brain says that these hapless people through conditioning at various institutional levels (mostly academia imo) cannot fathom being in actuality, useful idiots. I don't mean that with any malice or ill will, but simultaneously am struggling to empathize either. Then by extension we are all products of our own forms of conditioning, which is multivariate in nature, so what we have is all kinds in this world and this implies different view points is just everyone being a different side of the same coin. -But I don't really believe this...

    Instead, when I am framing in an intuitive mind, which exists at the core of my personality type and prominent when it feels like I'm at my most authentic self, i see this kind of guy by how he talks, looks at camera and general vibe as not just barley thinking but completely programed and influenced by what I'm just plainly going to refer to as the A.I. Making this guy, borrowing the term NPC and they are Legion because there are many!

    I really want to say controlled instead of influenced but am at odds because it sounds dehumanizing and probably ironic if coming from a perspective that should demonstrate empathy and spiritual maturity more than the logic brain. There's probably much more I can say about how my intuitive mind has helped me survive, grow, flourish in the physical and or other realms but will stop here so as to 1. not derail this thread, 2. probably can't give further insight until reconciling the disconnect, so while an entire new discussion might be warranted I can't think what else I could say other than, yeah that guys seems off in some way.

    To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. -Lao Tzu

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

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    President Vladimir Putin of Russia mentioned denazifying Ukraine as the goal of special military operations against the country. Some of you may be wondering what kind of Nazis are these days, but Putin's words are becoming increasingly true.

    The backbone of Ukrainian Nazism is the so called the Azov Regiment or an extreme nationalist group called the Azov Battalion. When Chechen Khadurov Muslim militia said they were on Putin's side, the Azov militia threatened to shoot them with lard on bullets.

    The Azov Battalion is an armed forces equipped with both Nazism and white supremacy. Interestingly, Facebook took sanction for such overtly religious and racist posts, but immediately dropped it. You can reasonably guess why.

    It is also the Azov Battalion where Putin's Russian forces fight the most fiercely.
    The Azov Battalion is a military organization made entirely of volunteers. Originally, the Ukrainian Patriotic Organization expanded and developed in 2014, when the Euromaidan Revolution took place. And among the founding members, there were many members of the Neo-Nazi Social National Assembly.

    The SNA also carried out armed attacks against minority groups in Ukraine.
    Spreading xenophobia and neo-Naziism, they carried out ruthless terrorism against immigrants and those who dissent.

    The leader of the Azov Battalion was Andriy Viletsky, who was the leader of the Ukrainian Patriots Organization and the SNA. In 2010, he stated that Ukraine's national goal is to lead white race of the world in the final crusade. Viletsky left the organization as a member of the Ukrainian National Assembly from 2014 to 2019.

    The Azov Battalion was funded by the Ministry of Interior of Ukraine in 2014.
    In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, Azov spokesman, confessed that only 10% to 20% of the members are from the Neo-Nazis. However, the Azov Battalion is openly using the German Nazi Hakenkreuz and SS assault battalion emblems. Azov's military uniform also wears the Neo-Nazi Wolfsangel wolf trap symbol. Ukraine is the only country in the world that has a neo-Nazi unit in its military organization.

    The event was held in 2016 by the Azov Battalion of 3,000 people near the National Assembly in Kyiv, Ukraine. This was a performance held to show off that it is a patriotic group with government support to oppress the separatists in the Donbas region.

    The scene of a festival with red smoke was reminiscent of a religious organization's ritual. It's a terrifyingly insane scene. Ukraine was not a normal country early on.

    It was an unusual country that could not be found in the 21st century, as it received public support for the atmosphere that Russians are the enemy of the nation and do not mind being extincted. Ukraine has nurtured a huge and brutal gangster organization at national level. Putin's anger may have begun at that time.

    A correspondent Simon Schuster of Time magazine, USA was astonished to see Ukraine's Independence Day celebration one year ago. Although the Azov battalion following the neo-Nazi ideology held a large-scale parade in Kyiv city, he wrote that the Ukrainians were quiet and perceived them as patriots.

    The Neo-Nazi organization sided with the Germans against Stalin's Red Army, and the Holocaust perpetrated against the Jews seemed to have been forgotten. The Azov Battalion openly salutes the Nazis, but strangely, the Western press has not taken it seriously.

    In other country, things would have been a mess. The recruitment ceremony of the Azov Battalion is very aggressive and bizarre. Everyone has a Nazi tattoo on the forearm, and a fighting game is held to commemorate his enlistment.
    It is reminiscent of the madness of young people when Nazi Germany began to emerge in Germany.

    In addition, the left-wing PC ideological brainwashing takes place.
    Teach them to be tolerant of LGBT people and not to look at them in a strange way. The members of the Azov Battalion insist that they are all brothers and sisters. Nazism and communism were mixed together.

    Putin is trying to eradicate the Azov Battalion under the pretext of Denazification.
    This is because the Azov Battalion is the main culprit in the massacre of up to 140,000 Russians in Donbas.

    Russia also believes that the actions of Ukrainian citizens, who are making Molotov cocktails while shouting for the sacrificing battle, are also due to the surveillance and intimidation of the Azov Battalion. And the bombardment of the humanitarian corridor is also viewed as a maneuver by Azov to propagate Russia’s action.

    The Azov Battalion was incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard after Russia intervened in Donbas in 2014. The Azov Battalion was praised by then President Petro Poroshenko. It began to receive official support from the government as the Ukrainian army was judged to be weaker than the pro-Russian militants. The Azov Battalion also received personal support from Oligarch Igor Kolomoysky in the energy sector.

    The war in Ukraine is rapidly becoming a hotbed of extremist forces.
    Many international political analysts say that the Ukraine crisis is providing a real-world experience to those who embraced far-right romanticism.

    Far right is a very confusing term these days. NAZI is actually far-left totalitarianism, and many people around the world call it far-right.

    Ukrainian Zelensky is recruiting international volunteers to ask foreigners to join the war in his country. Even if many countries officially support Ukraine, they are very discouraged from participating in the international volunteer army. Because it can provoke Russia to the extreme, and the possibility of importing radical revolution with the Neo-Nazism of the Azov Battalion cannot be excluded.

    The Ministry Defense of Russia said on March 10th that Ukraine had been conducting experiments related to the coronavirus with funding from the Pentagon. The spokeswoman Konasenkov of The Ministry Defense of Russia said in this year there are plans to study pathogens in birds, bats and reptiles at Ukraine's Biolab. The Ministry Defense of Russia said the facts were revealed through top-secret documents obtained from Ukraine's Biolab.

    The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs also claimed that the United States operates 336 biolabs in 30 countries around the world, and that there are 26 research centers in Ukraine alone. They said that this is evidence that the US is developing biological weapons, and China was on the Russian side that several countries should participate and verify it.

    In response, the State Department spokeswoman Ned Price dismissed Russia's claims that the U.S. and Ukraine were developing chemical and biological weapons as a "fake information warfare to cover up the invasion of Ukraine."

    Ukraine's biolab was the primary target of control along with nuclear power plants as Putin launched special military operations. Ukraine, a poor country, is not a medically advanced, so it is an unresolved question whether there were so many secret biolabs.

    Today's broadcast ends here.
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    Russia alleges that the US biolabs in Ukraine are carrying out particularly dangerous research.



    The UK representative at this UN meeting calls the Russian allegations conspiracy theories and utter nonsense. "There is not a shred of credible evidence that Ukraine has a biological weapons programme."



    The UN's high representative for disarmament affairs then makes an utter farce of trying to sweep the whole matter under the carpet. The footage is unfortunately shakey, but the farce couldn't be any clearer.



    ^ From decades ago. A brand new junior senator from Illinois visiting a 'public health laboratory' in Kyiv. The tray he's looking at is full of vials of anthrax. BOOM.

    Yet at the UN meeting the US appeared to get the last word to keep the propaganda locomotive in runaway mode.



    Given the above, this montage of clips appears to be a reasonable summary of the depths of depravity we now find ourselves in.

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    Does look like the western media won't be able to keep going with the "There are no Nazi groups inside Ukraine" narrative for too long as they have been trying to do for the past weeks.

    But now they have to twist reality so much that it ends up still being blamed on Russia the Nazi groups on Ukraine exist. Let's live in a bubble where no actions from the US and allies empowered them. Amazing to watch

    I suppose reality will need a chiropractor after this is over, due to how much twisted it go by this bufons

    https://www.salon.com/2022/03/10/are...-a-long-story/

    This is a "fake impartial and objective" article, see this, it's hidden here and there all across the garbage that uses facts mixed with subtle lies. This is preparing a switch to "The Nazi groups are acting the way they are acting because of Russia's fault", and a new bubble will be created. "If only Russia had let the Nazi groups kill a few people here and there, then we would not have this giant war". General public are so infantile they will fall for it, i already saw it on other pictures i have been sent

    Quote And far from "denazifying" Ukraine, the Russian invasion is likely to further empower Ukrainian and international neo-Nazis, as it attracts fighters from around the world and provides them with weapons, military training and the combat experience that many of them are hungry for.
    I don't have much to say about Medea Benjamin, or Nicolas J.S. Davies, but they forgot to mention who is going to deliver those weapons and military training, and fly them or drive them over to Ukraine so they get their combat experience...

    I don't know what's the point of this article, if it tried to play things this way. WE KNOW Russia as much as any other country has interests to protect, that's not news. This is infantile writing, like an essay written at middle school in which you attempt to say the truth but not antagonize anyone who is 'on the other side' (because if you do, then you'll find yourself against them at the courtyard after school, and teachers won't be there to stop the fight)

    All the brainwashed people will disagree, all the brainwashed people will agree. It all depends on which washing machine you were brainwashed in


    And Putin is not fighting against "The Cabal", he's just a separate faction of it, we all been through this before, every time an organisation or country changes leadership, is just a power battle, is not for the good of anyone but them at the top. Everyone else will remain a serf, except for the few ones picked up to go serve at the top so the masses believe there is some truth that "you can make it if you fight hard enough" and so that they believe they are represented somehow. Lol

    Oh no, now i made myself sad
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