The Secret Life of Plants

[778 neighbour of some guy]

ENJOY!!
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This is a higher resolution version of the classic and rare 1979 documentary.
Even on the lower levels of life, there is a profound consciousness or awareness that bonds all things together.
A fascinating account of the physical, emotional, and spiritual relations between plants and man." Essentially, the subject of the film is the idea that plants may be sentient, despite their lack of a nervous system and a brain. This sentience is observed primarily through changes in the plant's conductivity, as through a polygraph, as pioneered by Cleve Backster. The book also contains a summary of Goethe's theory of plant metamorphosis.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7_X2Z9v8-6Q

[Eram]

Hi Ed,

I haven't watched the video yet, but I will.

PS. psssst, try Iboga, you will like it, I promise.

This means that you did it?
May I ask what your findings were?
Do you see a significant change in respect to addictive impulses?

One of the reasons that I started to do liver flushes was to take iboga/ibogaine eventuallly.
They say it is heavy on the liver and I knew mine was a bit worn out

The stories about iboga scare me a bit though. They say it is a serious heavy trip.
It's quite expensive also.

So, any shared experience will help me determine whether I go for it or not.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Toekietoektoek,

ik krijg zo bezoek en moet nog even de stofzuiger door de hut sleuren en dergelijke, zodra mijn visite foetsie is geef ik je de antwoorden die je wilt op de thread in het engels.

brb

Edgar

[Pam]

Eram, Iboga is a very intense experience and not to be taken lightly. It worked for me with a opiate addiction. It is a very intense experience, for me it was a venture into hell...my own hell between my ears I guess...I have deep respect for Iboga.

Pam

[Joseph McAree]

Hi Ed,

I thank you for posting this video, I am not sure when I first saw this clip or film, I then read about this experiment and similar experiment completed by some Chinese scientist but the feedback Cleve Baxter got with the polygraph machine he said it changed his life , well it probably was responsible for changing mine.

I then realised after investigation everything had consciousness, I then thought to myself that I had to behave differently, my understanding was that if this is how plants felt (they could feel pain and trauma) I really had to wonder how animals felt, as in my thoughts they were at a higher level than plants but even more important was if and when I had attack thoughts about my fellow human beings and the feeling they would have if they really new what I was thinking.

The thoughts I had were that if plants have feeling like this why don't we ? I thought we humans were supposed to be the more evolved and higher species, this is strange that plants feel this way and we don't, there is something fundamentally wrong with us, in that we can be so cruel, so selfish in so many different ways and not really care about the consequences to the other person.

I bless all the food I eat and thank all the possessions I have and I even thank my car for taking me on a journey safely, yes I know a bit weird but that's how it changed me.

I thank you again for posting this video,

May your God bless you.
Kindest regards
Joe

[Conchis]

I too have a similar ritual Titanium. And not to get too far off topic, some Native American shaman would leave an offering of nicotine behind when they took something (plant or animal) believing that it would hold the memory of the thing taken for a time. Interestingly enough, there are quite a few studies that demonstrate that nicotine does effect memory in people. Sorry about any digression.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Eram.

This means that you did it?

Yes I did 8 to 10 march.

May I ask what your findings were?

Yes you may, my findings, excellent journey, with some expected unexpected twists and it was not all like i imagened it, i had a good ride. (this time) was the best so far, it started with sharing of our life stories ( or want you wanted to share that is) and the story of Iboga and its discovery several hundred or thousand years ago ( a bit unclear) and the myths / stories surrounding it. From that we did a small ceremony where we placed our small personal gifts for the Iboga spirit on an altar.
The living room or ceremonial room was prepared while we went for a short walk outside, when we returned the living room was transformed into a place where comfo sofas and matrasses were laid on the floor.

We started of with a test dose of Iboga ( to see if we got any allergic reactions and nobody did), after the test dose we were requested to choose a place to lay down, from 22:00 to 13:00 the next day we got constant doses ( offered to us) in powdered or capsule form ( i took the capsules) since its quite bitter stuff and hard to get down, most people got pretty nausious and vommited a lot in these hours but i took it easy and did not slam down the whole dose every time at once, i just spreaded it out over hour periods untill the next dose was offered to us and did the same thing with that dose.

At 06:00 i moved upstairs because i wanted privacy and the sound of vomitting people was not very pleasant to me, i was quite unstabil at that time because the Iboga sort off messes up your coordination and you perceive sounds and everything you see very intense, also your sense of time ( at least mine)was completely gone and at times it seemed to never end but it was a good indication that time itself is a man constructed thingie and doesnt mean sh!t on the cosmic level.

I had intense feelings of guilt ( very personal) and of inadequacy ( some bad life experiences) but it was all managable, from about 07:00 to 19:30 i had some pretty intense and beautiful and not so great visions about my past life experiences, how i handled them and a lot and i mean a lot of useless crap ( like page 126 from an Ikea catalog hahaha, if you have seen it it gets stored up there, grinn), some less pleasant things came along too on a screen in my mind and i could send it away on command, when you opened your eyes it also disappeared ( you are dreaming while you are awake and have complete control over where you want to go, a sort of your wish is my command thing), i have seen my living energy crawling in all colors of the rainbow like ants over my skin, seen my hand and arms turn to sand ( where the plant lived before it got shipped off i guess if that makes sense to you :-) ), i saw my own reflection as clear as in a mirror on a door in complete darkness ( i giggled and had a lot of fun while being surprised about this and sat in the dark waving to some door at myself, geheheh).

Strange lifeforms were everywhere, even in the room and we were definately checking eachother out, but nothing special, they were just there like i myself was just there, no biggie, i made myself shoot through the roof and saw i bright star and i went there with the speed of thought ( and damn, there are a lot of ships out there, i concluded very matter of fact, they were just there like i was just there, pretty busy up there i tell you, grinn).

The whole thing was very entertaining and interesting to me Toek.

Do you see a significant change in respect to addictive impulses?

I got rid of my serious dope addiction a long time ago ( 17 years) with no problem, but i do smoke cigarettes and after the session, i tried a cigarette for fun, and i might as well have not, it tasted absolutely like NOTHING, no taste no firing neurons in my brain, nothing happened ( i went for the psychospiritual experience and not for addiction interuption), my lungs feel totally clean, my mind is clear and cleaned up, my energy is more stabil then it has ever been, i am more in my body than ever before and very very calm and peacefull ( new for me) i cleaned up i a mayor way, my body feels very light ( a lot of weight has dropped of my mind, heart and soul), i feel very confident from deep within and safe and comfortable in my body in a peacefull way. I do still smoke btw, not because i want to of need to, but as an automatism, it still tastes like absolutely nothing funny enough so i have no clue why i still light up, if i would have thrown my cigs out before i went to the ceremony, i would be smokefree, but is is defeninatly a great way to break addiction, just make sure you throw your cigarettes and ashtrays away before you start ( much easier).

One of the reasons that I started to do liver flushes was to take iboga/ibogaine eventuallly.
They say it is heavy on the liver and I knew mine was a bit worn out

Excellent man, i cleaned out my liver too and am conviinced this was a big part of the nice ride i had, no puking for me, my body could handle the crap( wellllllllllll ok it gave me the runs, but diarea does not taste bad in your mouth like puking, and that really helped), smart move Toek, you are prepared better than anyone by doing the cleanses, believe me, when i said i did lives flushed all i got back were blank stares.

[QUOTE][The stories about iboga scare me a bit though. /QUOTE]

Well yes, its a ride but not as bad as your own mind makes it now man, its really relaxed if you can keep the nausia away, just your changed perception of time can make the night seem eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeendless, but trust me, it will end, the next day you trip and are totally useless as a human being because you feel very drained and have visions ( or not), but after you fall asleep and wake up you will feel like a million bucks ( really, not sh!tting you).

They say it is a serious heavy trip.

Dont worry man, its quite doable, its also very personal how you experience things, everybody present will have had a different journey and we all survived ok, sunday we had some nice food, tea, coffee, we danced on drum music, had a good stretch because we were in bed two long days and a bit stiff in the bones, ghehehe.

It's quite expensive also.

395 euro, its worth it, really.

So, any shared experience will help me determine whether I go for it or not.

Call me! I dropped my number in your pm box, i wont bite.

[lookbeyond]

Well, i would like to add a youtube music video of the most beautiful music in the world (some of it anyway!) called "The Secret Life of Trees" but i am not that clever, it is worth searching!!-lb

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by lookbeyond (here)
Well, i would like to add a youtube music video of the most beautiful music in the world (some of it anyway!) called "The Secret Life of Trees" but i am not that clever, it is worth searching!!-lb

go to youtube, find the video, click on share, copy, go to the reply section, click on the youtube button and paste in the middle, and you have posted a music video, good luck.

[GlassSteagallfan]

The Secret Life of Trees: (1:15:45)


https://youtube.com/watch?v=brWOsbcmFlw

[lookbeyond]

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URL="http://youtu.be/brWOsbcmFlw"]http://youtu.be/brWOsbcmFlw[/URL]
Well that was a bit stressful (asking my teenage daughter to supervise so i didnt mess it up)!

Thankyou, will practise some more

lookbeyond

[lookbeyond]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=brWOsbcmFlw

[write4change]

This means a lot to me and I have not seen the op clip in a long time. I will post more after I have seen all of these clips. thank you for posting this.

This affected my life much like Titanium and I am glad I was in my late 20s. The understanding and accepting of this was the beginning of my being able to consiously manifest.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by peterpam (here)
Eram, Iboga is a very intense experience and not to be taken lightly. It worked for me with a opiate addiction. It is a very intense experience, for me it was a venture into hell...my own hell between my ears I guess...I have deep respect for Iboga.

Pam

Why promote the fear and not what it did for you in the long term if i may ask, did it get you what you wanted?

Feel free to share your experience here.

[samsdice]

Hello Avalonians,

Here's a link to a non-fuzzy version of the classic documentary (with music by Stevie Wonder - who never saw the film prior) - based on the legendary book by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird. Well worth watching if you have never seen it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kTWcVnMPChM

[Ewan]

Posted by samsdice (here)
Hello Avalonians,

Here's a link to a non-fuzzy version of the classic documentary (with music by Stevie Wonder - who never saw the film prior) - based on the legendary book by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird. Well worth watching if you have never seen it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kTWcVnMPChM

Just a little niggly point - @ 16m and 20 seconds.

The Mimosa pudica certainly doesn't need ether to droop and 'sleep', it just needs contact.

[Vicus]

Stevie Wonder record "The Secret Life Of Plants" is one of my favorites Albums ever!
A master piece of sounds and image! (the documental)

Each song(double album) a masterpiece where he play best soul, funk and electronic, what most people don't know is that himself design all kind of keyboards...

One song ( I don't remember the tittle) is the first hardcore "techno" I ever heard, better than his precursors "krafwerk"...the scene with frantic traffic...

I went to his concert in Marbella (Spain) in the hope to listening, 3 hours and no songs from " The Secret Life Of Plants"...
I thought it was about "copyrights" things...

That's may be funny, but I don't find this music in internet, same with the documental, my spider sinn went on... why?...

Finally 2 year ago I found only the documental in very poor Quality and I got it!

What is about is "Anathema" for the "scientism" today, experiments with plants where it come about that are sentient bens ...they "know" when are in danger,
they "scream" to each oder about fire, they react different with all types of music, etc.

Maybe some people ( who got a garden, like myself) "know" something about...I " talk" smooth to them and I say thanks for your beauty, etc.

I saved many plants and then thanks back with many flowers, I know many peasants like and envy my little garden (6m plus5m) and this corner is know to be named( from people in the streets), I herd them to name it "the colorfully corner"

Thanks "samsdice" for this "quality" version .

[ExomatrixTV]

In the Future, Will Trees Be Connected to the Internet?

• Cleve Backster - Cellular Communication At A Distance:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1zdPN7zIl5Q

• Cleve Backster Secret Life Of Plants:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=M2ezqEAG_vA

Grover Cleveland "Cleve" Backster Jr. (February 27, 1924 – June 24, 2013) was an interrogation specialist for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), best known for his experiments with plants using a Polygraph instrument in the 1960s which led to his theory of Primary Perception where he claimed that plants feel pain and have Extrasensory Perception (ESP), which was widely reported in the media. These claims have been rejected by the scientific community.

• source

[ExomatrixTV]

• Plant Perception (Cleve Backster)

• source

• Cleve Backster - Primary Perception:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V7V6D33HGt8

• archive.org/details/EvidenceOfAPrimaryPerceptionInPlants
• evidence.pdf
• Your Cells Are Listening: How Talking To Your Body Can Help You Heal: File 142 Kb
  
• Evidence of a Primary Perception In Plant Life PDF (2,9 Mb)
  

[ExomatrixTV]

I remember listening to Jeff Rense interviewing Cleve Backter in the early 2000s (the interview itself was made somewhere in the 1990s) ... it was a .mp3 or .wma file downloaded via torrent but it is not there anymore ... has anyone a link of that interview? ... a video or audio file?

• Was super impressed listening to both of them asking the right questions!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

• Botanical Rhythms: A Field Guide to Plant Music