Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III

[Inversion]

The Russians claim this explosion at the Crimean Saky Airbase was not from shelling or an airstrike. They said stored ammo detonated, but the ignition source is unknown. The base is about 120 mi/193 km from the frontlines in the Ukraine.

zerohedge

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DkUd3JEBRBs

[9ideon]

Posted by Spiral (here)

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
You know it is impossible to have a discussion on this thread with the play by play of the war with twits.

Anyone can post main stream media content. What is the point really if it leaves little room for discussion? There is about 14 missives and 19 twits since my last message which could be lost in the shuffle.

Even the so-called 'alt-media' [video content producers] I find a little troublesome, they read the days main stream media and then discuss it. [While disagreeing with most of it.] I find if I had a busy day and didn't read the news that the video content is like a brief recap of the news. It is very predictable after a while when you get to know the personalities. With good critical thinking skills, one can skim the msm and get the idea without some youtuber chiming in their two-cents.

There are many threads that just get posted with daily content and little to no discussion. Is anyone interested in some banter? They bumped the thread regarding signal to noise, so I am not the only one noticing these occurrences.

Maybe there ought to be two threads, one for up to the minute details of whats going on, which is going to be tweets & Telegrams, because that's were the blow by blow accounts are coming out, and a second one for discussion & opinions from members rather than links & vids etc ?

Members could use links to posts in this thread to make it clear what they are discussing.

I agree there is too much going on in this thread to do both.

I agree to the fact it is almost impossible to have a constructed discussion about the state of things due to the volume of tweets etc, they are most welcome though, simply due to the nutrient value of the content, a solution should be found. Perhaps there is already a Thread out there we can resuscitate?

Maybe this one thread could be used for discussions?

[9ideon]

Ravenlocke #4422

Earlier this week, I received two reports that WALMART had allegedly "canceled billions of dollars in orders."
I was **not** able to get more info such as specific types of products or specific suppliers, or specific country of origin, so since I couldn't verify it, I didn't report it.

Minutes ago, I got this:
"My wife works for amazon web services (AWS) and they just canceled 40% of the marketing budget, froze hiring, and canceled all employee travel today"
It was done on a video call about 50 minutes ago. I am endeavoring to verify it, so treat it as RUMOR right now . . . but here's the thing:

If these claims prove true, this is a major indicator of bad **** coming.

Especially the travel part. AWS has assets in China, Taiwan, and Eastern Bloc countries.
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“We don't want escalation. We’d like to avoid a situation, in which the US becomes a party to the conflict, but so far we don’t see any readiness of the other side to take these warnings seriously,” Ryabkov told Rossiya 1 TV channel on Friday.
Moscow rejects Washington's explanation, that providing Ukraine with weapons and other aid is justified by Kiev’s right to self-defense, he pointed out. “Excuse me, what kind of self-defense is it if they are already openly talking about the possibility of attacking targets deep in the Russian territory, in Crimea?” the deputy FM wondered.

This is indeed interesting, are there more people on the forum whom have had similar happenings lately?

That second part, is there any chance the Russians here can confirm sentiment in Russia?

[JackMcThorn]

I've read the entire article. I searched out the website.

I really get the feeling the article is a bit of a click-bait. He is saying that the nuclear plant is likely to be hit this week-end. [I'm sure some of us will be the first to hear about it if it happens.]

Two days ago, I got word that the US/NATO shipped four (4) nuclear ARTILLERY shells to Ukraine. Word was that the Ukrainians were to use those shells to hit the Zaporazyhe Nuclear Power Plant. A nuke artillery shell would certainly be able to penetrate a Reactor Containment building, and even a relatively tiny nuke blast would rupture a reactor, causing a radiation leakage disaster. BUT . . . they claimed . . . the fact that a nuke artillery shell was used will be MASKED by the reactor leaking radiation. So Ukraine would blame the Russians for mishandling the reactor causing it to blow up when, in reality, Ukraine caused it.

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There is a myriad of Wal-Mart articles indicating that Wal-Mart cancelled orders due to overstocking. Some of the articles are behind pay-walls and some are less than reputable sources.

In a call with investors announcing results for the second quarter, Walmart CFO John Rainey said the company has “canceled billions in orders” to deal with inventory pileups that have amassed over the last few quarters.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walm...-?guccounter=1

None of the Wal-Mart articles are in the MSM.

The amazon information is not exactly public domain so it is harder to track down, but I think the main article is meant to incite emotion than to present facts.

[9ideon]

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
I've read the entire article. I searched out the website.

I really get the feeling the article is a bit of a click-bait. He is saying that the nuclear plant is likely to be hit this week-end. [I'm sure some of us will be the first to hear about it if it happens.]

Two days ago, I got word that the US/NATO shipped four (4) nuclear ARTILLERY shells to Ukraine. Word was that the Ukrainians were to use those shells to hit the Zaporazyhe Nuclear Power Plant. A nuke artillery shell would certainly be able to penetrate a Reactor Containment building, and even a relatively tiny nuke blast would rupture a reactor, causing a radiation leakage disaster. BUT . . . they claimed . . . the fact that a nuke artillery shell was used will be MASKED by the reactor leaking radiation. So Ukraine would blame the Russians for mishandling the reactor causing it to blow up when, in reality, Ukraine caused it.

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There is a myriad of Wal-Mart articles indicating that Wal-Mart cancelled orders due to overstocking. Some of the articles are behind pay-walls and some are less than reputable sources.

In a call with investors announcing results for the second quarter, Walmart CFO John Rainey said the company has “canceled billions in orders” to deal with inventory pileups that have amassed over the last few quarters.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walm...-?guccounter=1

None of the Wal-Mart articles are in the MSM.

The amazon information is not exactly public domain so it is harder to track down, but I think the main article is meant to incite emotion than to present facts.

Basically what is happening is that the click bait feckers are blowing up the entire story in order to incite certain emotions with the brainwashed, two brain cell models. Not good either, hahahaha.
I have seen a coupe of stories about Wallmart the past few years, I still wonder if they might be true since there is no info on that over here, like the Wallmarts being re-modeled after camps etc.

We should hope for someone to come fwd if true, it strikes me as strange a company like Amazon would have inside info on Military ops though. If something were to be coming State side, they'd do a carpet warning.

[Spiral]

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
I've read the entire article. I searched out the website.

I really get the feeling the article is a bit of a click-bait. He is saying that the nuclear plant is likely to be hit this week-end. [I'm sure some of us will be the first to hear about it if it happens.]

Two days ago, I got word that the US/NATO shipped four (4) nuclear ARTILLERY shells to Ukraine. Word was that the Ukrainians were to use those shells to hit the Zaporazyhe Nuclear Power Plant. A nuke artillery shell would certainly be able to penetrate a Reactor Containment building, and even a relatively tiny nuke blast would rupture a reactor, causing a radiation leakage disaster. BUT . . . they claimed . . . the fact that a nuke artillery shell was used will be MASKED by the reactor leaking radiation. So Ukraine would blame the Russians for mishandling the reactor causing it to blow up when, in reality, Ukraine caused it.

-----
There is a myriad of Wal-Mart articles indicating that Wal-Mart cancelled orders due to overstocking. Some of the articles are behind pay-walls and some are less than reputable sources.

In a call with investors announcing results for the second quarter, Walmart CFO John Rainey said the company has “canceled billions in orders” to deal with inventory pileups that have amassed over the last few quarters.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walm...-?guccounter=1

None of the Wal-Mart articles are in the MSM.

The amazon information is not exactly public domain so it is harder to track down, but I think the main article is meant to incite emotion than to present facts.

I'd take anything Hal Turner puts out with a bucket of salt.

That said the shortages are already happening & for no logical reason, getting people mentally prepped for seriously empty shelves IMHO.

I also expect that Russia is stepping up the protection for the nuclear plant, drones, aircraft, missile systems to shoot incoming ordinance down & most likely special forces teams on the ground to deal with artillery units within range.

[9ideon]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/stat...14253276356608

Anyone know what time? Was it before or after the car bombing that killed Daria Dugina?

[9ideon]

Anyone know what time? Was it before or after the car bombing that killed Daria Dugina?

Bill Post#45

According to investigators, an explosive device was planted under the bottom of a Toyota Land Cruiser vehicle Daria was driving. The car was traveling at full speed when it exploded in the Odintsovsky District in the Moscow region at about 21:00 local time (18:00 GMT) on Saturday.

It almost looks like, being very careful, he took his own life after that car bomb debacle, might be coincidence though.

[Bill Ryan]

We may need to add Turkey to the gradually lengthening thread title.

This is very major. For all those reading this who may nt be up to speed, there seems to have been a highly significant tipping point inasmuch as Turkey is now leaning heaving towards Russia and turning its back on the US regarding Syria.

This is an excellent video, just 13 minutes long (short videos are good news these days!), and it explains the entire development and its likely repercussions. The danger is that the US neocons will become even more pressured and enraged.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gmfwRh4rJt4

[Ravenlocke]

Erdogan said that according to international law, it is necessary to return Crimea to #Ukraine

Erdogan said that according to international law, it is necessary to return Crimea to Ukraine in order to maintain its territorial integrity and stability in the region. For his part, Zelensky said that Ukraine would retake the peninsula in whatever way it deemed necessary.

In general, Turkey continues to play an important role as an intermediary between Russia and Ukraine, which entails the prospect of great financial and political benefits.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JrHDyGx-qdM

[JackMcThorn]

Intel Slava Z posted the following. Patrick Lancaster reposted it but it is not in the main stream yet.

[9ideon]

Interesting sum up.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mVF4LlzztIE

[Kryztian]

Liz Truss, the new Prime Minister of the United Kingdom says she's all ready to press the button to begin nuclear annihilation:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DsmINqud4aM

[9ideon]

Lays it out.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wmOePNsNFw0

[9ideon]

This is typical thought pattern from US perspective. They are doing (going to) it in Ukraine as well. Us is going to sent heavier weapons to Ukraine because they feel Russia has been bluffing about striking back when Crimea or Russia Main will be attacked with "Nato" weapons. So they decided to start sending heavier weapons in order for Ukraine to attack Crimea and perhaps Russia main. The same with Taiwan now, they feel China has been bluffing so they order Taiwan to start leaning on China so they'll expose the bluff China represents.

They make one huge mistake in reasoning though. This is how the US does things, bluff, bluff and oooh yeah, bluff, against stronger opponents, they brush aside weaker ones. Russia and China are not like this, they warn and warn and warn simply because they realize a Huge war means loads of innocent victims on both sides, something the US and Nato never cared about.

Patience is a virtue, sometimes though even patient People lash out.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qOwAXlqmZ4c

[rodguy911]

Erdogan and his son Bilal are major league criminals and always have been. Currently he's playing the muslim card pretending to be Mohammad when in essence he's more closely like hitler.
One day the trurth will come out about him and his criminal son and it will all over for him.

[graciousb]

Posted by rodguy911 (here)
Erdogan and his son Bilal are major league criminals and always have been. Currently he's playing the muslim card pretending to be Mohammad when in essence he's more closely like hitler.
One day the trurth will come out about him and his criminal son and it will all over for him.

Isn't criminality a baseline job requirement for a world leader wanting more than momentary longevity?

[Kryztian]

The U.S.A. is expanding it's military presence in the Pacific. Here, specifically, in Guam. They are destroying the ecology of the island to expand military bases, and the people of Guam feel as though they are placed in the line of fire in a war that is not theirs.

[Bill Ryan]

This leaked RAND report, from January 2022, showing the plan for the purposeful takedown of Germany's economy, may need its own thread.

• Newly Leaked Report From Rand Corporation Reveals The True Motives Behind European Destabilization & The Russia/Ukraine War
  https://redpill78.substack.com/p/new...nd-corporation

• Documentation: A confidential RAND report dated 01/25/2022
  https://en.weltexpress.info/2022/09/...ted-01-25-2022

• MUST WATCH - CONFIDENTIAL Rand Report EXPOSED! 'Weakening Germany & Strengthening The U.S.'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QacSGqrF5c4

[Kryztian]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This leaked RAND report, from January 2022, showing the plan for the purposeful takedown of Germany's economy, may need its own thread.

• Newly Leaked Report From Rand Corporation Reveals The True Motives Behind European Destabilization & The Russia/Ukraine War
  https://redpill78.substack.com/p/new...nd-corporation

• Documentation: A confidential RAND report dated 01/25/2022
  https://en.weltexpress.info/2022/09/...ted-01-25-2022

• MUST WATCH - CONFIDENTIAL Rand Report EXPOSED! 'Weakening Germany & Strengthening The U.S.'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QacSGqrF5c4

Wow! This is a must read, must share, and most importantly must understand. This has tremendous implications and could cause a collapse in the coalition that is fighting this war. Mostly NATO, but so many other countries around the globe are involved in sanctions and I think this will only accelerate the fall of the dollar that they predict.

Of course, this document could also be a hoax. Or it could be real, but the Rand Corporation might claim it is "Russian fake new, manufactured in the Kremlin basement" or the Biden Admin and Pentagon will deny that it had any effect on their policy. It would great to know more about the provenance of this document and how the leak emerged.

My head reels from the implications this document has. I also have to wonder about the parts of the report that are missing.

I hope Alexander Mercouris got up real early this morning because I can't wait to hear what he has to say about it.