Why Modern Movies Suck!

[Open Minded Dude]

Amazon's LOTR really seems to be a train wreck. And embarrassing how the shill critics give high praise while most of the audiences don't like it. I saw it and it was boring so far. They made a build-up for 2 episodes and there is only 6 to go. Not a lot happened. The main actress is really badly written and played (and a Marie Sue). Visuals are okay though. Still want to give it a chance but I am not hopeful for improvement.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UVi4CYRL8m8

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2TQB-7ddAJk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=an0s192aTls

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

[Quoted from this thread]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Where is the struggle, growth and pay off? Why are all women perfect with most (all?) men portrayed as liabilities or just bafoons?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UVi4CYRL8m8

We have known about writing stories for eons now, the "hero's journey" is known ubiquitously.. I dont understand how "professional " entertainers can destroy the established stories like this.

How can they do it?

I honestly believe it's deliberate. The "writers" responsible for the dumpster fire that is Rings of Power have almost no writing credits to their name, except I think that very, very bad Star Trek: Beyond. I mean, are you kidding me? They hired those buffoons? If you employ bargain basement hollywood hacks to adapt Tolkien, this is what you'll get.

Some people have called Rings of Power "fan fiction". It's definitely not that. Know why? Because these ****s aren't Fans!!

They don't know the books or the material they're dealing with. And if they did read it I bet it would go over their heads. Their fumbling attempts, for example, to write dialogue in Tolkien's archaic, highly ornate linguistic style is soooo cringe and out of step with the source material, it comes across as almost like a spoof, like an SNL skit or something. It's insultingly bad. It seems pretty clear their first priority is NOT the story at all, not the history, not the tone or any of that - but AGENDA, namely toxic identity politics. The most flagrant example being, of course, Galadriel, warrior queen, which she never was. The equivalent would be Virgin Mary becomes Conan the Barbarian!!

There's a very good reason why Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy was a mega-smash, and lauded worldwide, and that's because he and his writers knew the material inside and out, and they chose to honour that material by being faithful to it.

Out of all of Hollywood's garbage, this one hits the deepest. Tolkien is sacred. It's the most celebrated work in the English language, and they have butchered it, shat on it, and set the remains on fire. They could not possibly have effed it up any worse. As a result, I have to conclude it CANNOT be an accident.

This is an expert-level break down of ALL that is wrong with this hideous pile of manure.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=an0s192aTls

[Open Minded Dude]

Off-topic, but only kind of:

In all my frustration about the Western movie/show downfall of recent years I started watching some South Korean movies and TV shows.
They have a kind of boom going on just like the Indian Bollywood stuff. There are quite a few good ones out there (Netflix, Prime, etc.) and they are all without the woke identity politics sh!t - even if they do tackle 'social issues' of their country. They just do it without toxicity and preaching.

Maybe we should start a separate thread on this here, at least I consider it.

(Not saying there are still great US shows out there, such as Better Call Saul, The Expanse or Cobra Kai, just to name 3 of them, but they seem rare exceptions nowadays.)

[TargeT]

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
(Not saying there are still great US shows out there, such as Better Call Saul, The Expanse or Cobra Kai, just to name 3 of them, but they seem rare exceptions nowadays.)

The List, Grey man, there's a few things that seemed to slip through " THE MESSAGE " crack (The daily wire has some pretty good offerings for example)...

if you can deal with a bit of a different format due to culture I'd highly suggest this guy:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HKN6FAKjFPU

But I think what you're saying is very related to this thread. It seems clear our culture, education, government and "tech" (at the very least) have been taken over by a monoculture that seems to be currently in it's final stages of "take over".

This open's up competition every time, and I love it so far... Triple R (nickname really) is great for what it is, I've recently gotten into a lot of eastern stuff as well and am very happy with the shift.

[Open Minded Dude]

A new installment by TCD on "Why Modern Movies Suck".

The topic is deliberate fan baiting by the studios as a marketing ploy. They are selling their movies and shows by inciting the cultural wokeness war going on in wider society also on this battlefield of entertainment, esp. tv shows / movies, also including video games, merchandise, etc.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ngqO9Hp19_4

On the same topic:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KKv6P5Ec3hg

[Vicus]

MOVIES AND TVThe Disturbing (and Deeply Irritating) Globalist Agendas in the James Bond Movie “No Time to Die”

The story of “No Time to Die” revolves around a DNA-targeting virus that’s oddly similar to monkeypox. Considering the fact that the movie was completed around 2019, the coincidence is rather unsettling. Is the movie another case of predictive programming? Also, what is wrong with James Bond?

No Time to Die was one of the first movies to be released in theaters after COVID lockdowns. And, if moviegoers expected a fun escape from reality from this blockbuster movie, well, that’s not what they got. Instead, viewers got a sad, troubled, and depressed James Bond moping around for about three hours. In fact, a more appropriate title for the movie should have been A LOT of Time to Die. Because it takes about three hours for James Bond to finally give up and die. Because, yes, Bond actually dies in the movie. In a weird, cowardly way to boot.

So when the movie was (finally) over, my face was scrunched up in utter confusion. I can’t say that I’m a James Bond aficionado, but that movie did not feel like James Bond at all. Isn’t he all about guns, girls, and gadgets?

So what happened to James Bond? One word: Agendas. The cool, suave, confident, patriotic, and womanizing hero of the past does not fit today’s social climate. Sean Connery’s version of James Bond was a 20th-century version of propaganda. It was about promoting the MI6 and Great Britain as a whole through popular culture using a charismatic protagonist. And it worked.

However, we are in the 21st century. Globalism turned national pride into national shame and strong masculinity into toxic masculinity. The James Bond of the past is now “problematic” and modern James Bond has to comply with today’s cultural orthodoxy.

The Fall of James Bond

James Bond used to be a free, unattached, and adventurous spy who traveled to exotic locations and hooked up with alluring yet dangerous “Bond girls”. And, no matter what happened to him, he prevailed – unfazed and looking sharp.

Daniel Craig’s Bond is the exact opposite of what you just read. If old-school James Bond was unfazed, new James Bond is continually fazed. On a couple of occasions, he’s even disrespected and humiliated.


While in Jamaica, Bond is told by a new agent named Nomi that she’s 007 now. I guess James Bond is just a double zero now.









So the legendary 007 is not even 007 in his own movie. Then, we see him sitting in the passenger seat as Nomi drives him around. It’s all very symbolic. It’s all about subtle emasculation.

While in Cuba, Bond meets a CIA agent named Paloma who has all of the makings of a “Bond girl”. However, when Bond comes on to her, she rejects him with a slightly disgusted look, as if saying “Ew, don’t touch me you old perv”. Why was this cringe-inducing scene kept in this three-hour movie? Because it’s part of the “destroy James Bond” narrative.

Globalist-controlled media takes pleasure in corrupting popular franchises by injecting them with its toxic agenda. They know that people hate this, but they do it anyways. If they created new franchises containing their agenda, nobody would watch them. So they ride on the popularity of existing franchises while “infecting” them with their poison, the same way Heracles infected James Bond.

This is not entertainment, this is social conditioning. Not even James freaking Bond can escape the elite’s weird weaponized viruses. What message does that send to us regular people?

In short, if someone asks you:

“Hey, wanna watch No Time to Die“.

Tell them:

“Sorry, No Time to Watch“.

Because life is too short for this crap.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesan...o-time-to-die/

[Brigantia]

Seeing as the huge stinking pile that is Rings of Power has featured a lot in this thread - I've just watched this Thomas Sheridan interview with Dave Cullen where they discuss the reasons why it is so bad.

In a nutshell, they discuss how the writers have no understanding of Tolkien's ideology. They say that they think that the writers watched the films, but hadn't read the books and are imposing their secular attitudes onto their work. They continue with a discussion of how other works such as the Bond films, Dr Who and Star Trek have also fallen prey to this.

Well worth a 1 hour and 7 minutes watch, and they have a good laugh at the beginning about some of the godawful dialogue.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LkvDnSF71_Q

[Patient]

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
Amazon's LOTR really seems to be a train wreck. And embarrassing how the shill critics give high praise while most of the audiences don't like it. I saw it and it was boring so far. They made a build-up for 2 episodes and there is only 6 to go. Not a lot happened. The main actress is really badly written and played (and a Marie Sue). Visuals are okay though. Still want to give it a chance but I am not hopeful for improvement.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UVi4CYRL8m8

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2TQB-7ddAJk

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=an0s192aTls

I tried to watch it and I found that I was not even paying attention enough to know what was going on.

Realized because it was so lame so I didn't try to re-watch it.

So I watched The Lord of the Rings again (the first one) and felt better.

[Open Minded Dude]

Every Hollywood movie (and show) is unbelievably woke now with all the ID politics propaganda. It is almost like satire. These movies are not successful at the box office and with audience ratings but the 'activists' don't care it seems. Go Woke Broke is real. The trailers get mostly downrated, nobody goes to see them at the box office.
Here is the newest woke example from Disney (its just one of many):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rtZe385rtPY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KuREaFVr-Vc

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WE4dR1HZ4Fk

[Open Minded Dude]

Maybe the Girl Boss phenomenon slowly is dying now as reality checks set in even with the movie studios that still want to make money and cater to the right audiences instead of to ideologies after all.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o84Xp6xh5UE

[CurEus]

As with Art, Music, and Theatre I find that with very little effort one can simply "side step" the Mainstream and pop over into the "Fringe". oftentimes these outliers are available on some of the lager streaming services or "off Broadway" so to speak. As disgusted as I am often am with youtube it DOES have a lot of great content if we look hard enough and very often shared by Avalon members and our own Avalon Library is great.

Lots of options! ...for now.

[Open Minded Dude]

Three major figures in Hollywood are sounding the alarm on bad storytelling. Let's talk about it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BZh-HhJFB0Q

[Flash]

My anslysis willbe short and simple, even kind of stupid. But when a North American like me isstartingto prefer Bollywoodto Hollywood, there is a major problem in Hollywood.

By the way I discovered Turkishmovies lately, incredibly beautiful visuals, they really got that, and goid acting on average. As fot the scripts, some good and some not as good.

French movies are also in my opinion better than Hollywood. At a minimum there are interesting stories. And when redine by Hollywood, the spice is almost always taken away.

[lake]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
(Not saying there are still great US shows out there, such as Better Call Saul, The Expanse or Cobra Kai, just to name 3 of them, but they seem rare exceptions nowadays.)

The List, Grey man, there's a few things that seemed to slip through " THE MESSAGE " crack (The daily wire has some pretty good offerings for example)...

if you can deal with a bit of a different format due to culture I'd highly suggest this guy:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HKN6FAKjFPU

But I think what you're saying is very related to this thread. It seems clear our culture, education, government and "tech" (at the very least) have been taken over by a monoculture that seems to be currently in it's final stages of "take over".

This open's up competition every time, and I love it so far... Triple R (nickname really) is great for what it is, I've recently gotten into a lot of eastern stuff as well and am very happy with the shift.

Thanks for sharing that .... I enjoyed watching RRR .... long but good in a different way


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/XlFIEfyBpw5y

[Bill Ryan]

Here's a very pertinent YouTube comment under one of the "First Time Watching" reactions to the 1957 all-time classic film 12 Angry Men. I'd suggest this may say a very great deal about movies then and now.

~~~

This is one those great movies. I want to bring up an important point.

This movie is from a time when the real man, a mature man, is often portrayed as wise, thinking, considerate, courteous, and respectful. In being this way, he gains respect without using force, threats, or bravado, only his thoughtful deliberate words.

In this movie, you clearly see that. The loud, bullying, and vulgar men are seen as childish and immature, the worst kind of man. Even in the last scene when Henry Fonda helps the last holdout with his jacket in a mature and respectful manner. He never disrespected the man.

This was common in movies and TV shows of the 40s, 50s, and 60's as examples of how to behave and gain respect, and began to change in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Today, we see man-boys in movies and on TV most often.

[Vicus]

Agendas

I don't need/want to lecture anybody in this forum, we got enough fun with bossy woman, Cleopatra black Queen,viking black Earl,50kilos and 5 foot fierce female warriors kicking ass a complete company of men soldiers without breaking in sweat, destroyed Lord of the rings,etc.

I remember exactly when all that "macho women" fary tail begun...
It was in the first "Alien" movie...next was Shara Connor in the "terminator" franchise, and then the sky was the limit...

BUT,there are others very dark agendas for female public consume/programing...

_ the "innocent" programing: https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesan...-movie-barbie/

_the less innocent:https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesan...h-poor-things/

_ Teen programing TV show:https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesan...a-of-euphoria/

Reed, but don't pollute yourself by watching !

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Here's a very pertinent YouTube comment under one of the "First Time Watching" reactions to the 1957 all-time classic film 12 Angry Men. I'd suggest this may say a very great deal about movies then and now.

~~~

This is one those great movies. I want to bring up an important point.

This movie is from a time when the real man, a mature man, is often portrayed as wise, thinking, considerate, courteous, and respectful. In being this way, he gains respect without using force, threats, or bravado, only his thoughtful deliberate words.

In this movie, you clearly see that. The loud, bullying, and vulgar men are seen as childish and immature, the worst kind of man. Even in the last scene when Henry Fonda helps the last holdout with his jacket in a mature and respectful manner. He never disrespected the man.

This was common in movies and TV shows of the 40s, 50s, and 60's as examples of how to behave and gain respect, and began to change in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Today, we see man-boys in movies and on TV most often.

I remember I watched this as a child or teen on TV and loved it. Might even have seen it a second time (also when on TV) in my thirties or so. Normally I do not watch movies a 2nd time unless very good and maybe about 20 years apart. Btw, In Germany the film title was 'translated' as "Die zwölf Geschworenen" (= the 12 jurors), so I did not even know the movie when you posted the title.

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by Vicus (here)
Agendas
I remember exactly when all that "macho women" fary tail begun...
It was in the first "Alien" movie...next was Shara Connor in the "terminator" franchise, and then the sky was the limit...
:

Compared to the girlbosses from today, Ripley and Connor were actually still very good characters with a development arc that made sense. Also they were still bearable not lecturing or looking down at their male companions.

They were also (still kind of) female and not like today's versions of ever-superior, stoic and 'soulless' female lead characters in US cinema.

Most of what the old 'heroines' achieved back in the day was not necessarily by unrealistic display of (male!) strength. E.g. In Connor's case it was years of combat and survival training from the second movie on (not the first of course), so her strength was at least explainable to some degree.

On the other hand, today's Mary-Sue-girlbosses do not even have to train for anything, they just 'got it' from the beginning and can beat up any group of well-trained professional male assassins 'just so' ... and just because their opponents are men and they are women. They are also immediately better than any male teacher they get (if they still have one).

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
(Not saying there are still great US shows out there, such as Better Call Saul, The Expanse or Cobra Kai, just to name 3 of them, but they seem rare exceptions nowadays.)

The List, Grey man, there's a few things that seemed to slip through " THE MESSAGE " crack (The daily wire has some pretty good offerings for example)...

if you can deal with a bit of a different format due to culture I'd highly suggest this guy:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HKN6FAKjFPU

But I think what you're saying is very related to this thread. It seems clear our culture, education, government and "tech" (at the very least) have been taken over by a monoculture that seems to be currently in it's final stages of "take over".

This open's up competition every time, and I love it so far... Triple R (nickname really) is great for what it is, I've recently gotten into a lot of eastern stuff as well and am very happy with the shift.

Thanks for sharing that .... I enjoyed watching RRR .... long but good in a different way


Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/XlFIEfyBpw5y

I've seen it too. Same here, Long but absolutely worth the time.

[Ernie Nemeth]

The role of the 'hero' has a cultural component that makes it so enjoyable. The hero's qualities are timeless but the 'cultural norms' change. It is the way the hero 'acts' that is the true measure of their character. They uphold the most stringent code of conduct based on honor - but what is honorable can change.

There are many 'types' of heroes. There is the reluctant hero, the revenge hero, the 'on the road to Damascus' hero, the prophetic hero, the protect my ____ (insert choice here: family, land, honor, possessions, country, money, etc.) hero, the 'pushed too far' hero, the tormented hero, the 'against all odds' hero, the 'very lucky' hero, and so on.

It is when the role does not fit the type of hero that I lose interest.

That woke garbage is unwatchable, so I don't.
If I even hear mention that a character is going to be revealed as gay or trans or queer or some other fringe sexual orientation, I won't watch on principle alone (Dumbledore comes to mind, was that his name? Never watched or read another Harry Potter after that).

[And yet if well done, a gay character can add depth to the role, like detective Milo Sturgis in those Peterson novels, can't think of a movie like that off-hand.]