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    Unhappy Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    This is a topic I used to speak of on my blog a LOT last year, the Nazi Bell, Tesla, the SS Ratlines, and of course, Projekt RIESE (the tunnels).

    Recently my husband watched an episode of a program on history channel dealing with Adolf Hitler's antics. He said that the Nazi SS used an airlifter called something like the Big Lady to delivery the most advanced of the prototypes to a safehouse or SS fortress in Paraguay, where the Bush family owns like ALL the goddamn land over the aquifers LOL.



    This story is huge. But let's start with a timeline:

    ~SS tinkering was happening before the war broke out.
    ~Prewar Hitlermania accomplished a lot of conditioning.
    ~Hitler wanted to be accepted as a God and needed a chariot.
    ~the Nazi Bell was an antigravity spacecraft engine that did a lot of things we don't understand
    ~The SS prepared escape routes when Germany collapsed
    ~Paraguay was one of the number one destinations
    ~The Nazi Bell likely went to Paraguay for protection
    ~only two years later we had ROSWELL



    Then our damn air force said Roswell could be explained by a weather balloon.

    P U H L E A S E!




    What do you people think about that stuff? I know this is a very short post but please read it and make up for that fact by thinking and telling me what is likely.

    !!!!
    ___________________________________________________________

    WHAT IS:

    URANVEREIN and CERN
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...energy_project
    Quote The most influential people in the Uranverein were Kurt Diebner, Abraham Esau, Walther Gerlach, and Erich Schumann; Schumann was one of the most powerful and influential physicists in Germany. Diebner, throughout the life of the nuclear energy project, had more control over nuclear fission research than did Walther Bothe, Klaus Clusius, Otto Hahn, Paul Harteck, or Werner Heisenberg. Abraham Esau was appointed as Hermann Göring's plenipotentiary for nuclear physics research in December 1942; Walther Gerlach succeeded him in December 1943.
    Quote 1957: the first accelerator begins operation

    The 600 MeV Synchrocyclotron (SC), built in 1957, was CERN’s first accelerator and it provided beams for CERN’s first particle and nuclear physics experiments. In 1964, the Synchrocyclotron started to concentrate on nuclear physics alone, leaving particle physics to the newer and much more powerful Proton Synchrotron (PS).
    Quote The opportunities available in American physics expanded during the 1920s. The center of gravity in American physics had long been in the east. But after World War I, administrators at Caltech and at the University of California at Berkeley decided to foster research in general and physics in particular, and backed up their intentions in budgets.

    By the early 1930s their efforts had paid off, and the president of the American Physical Society referred to California as "one of the two foci in the academic ellipse representing American physics." Berkeley and other universities engaged in a bidding war for Lawrence, whose work on photoelectricity and ionization marked him as an up-and-coming experimenter. Yale held off Berkeley by offering Lawrence an appointment as assistant professor in 1927, bypassing the normal entry level of instructor. A year later, after Swann left Yale, Lawrence accepted an upgraded Berkeley offer of an associate professorship with an ample research budget and a light teaching load.


    After Forsyth wrote that book up there, the Wiesenthal center caught a real Nazi living in Paraguay because of the historical research Forsyth did FOR FREE for our country



    Let it end!

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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    This is probably the plane they were talking about....








    Employed between 1942 and 1944, the plane, known as Messerschmitt 323 "Giant," was the largest land-based transport aircraft used in World War II.

    With a 181-foot wingspan and six engines, this giant of the skies — it was 33 feet tall and 92 feet long — could carry a load of up to 12 tons, or 120 fully-equipped men into battle.

    The cargo was loaded through double doors that formed the curved nose of the plane.
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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    That certainly looks big enough!

    You know what, GIANT translates to RIESE,
    which was the name of the tunnel project too!

    uhoh

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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    I don't know if you saw Bills visit to the place the bell was developed.

    Joseph Farrell also goes into this and Jim Marrs ...they go
    into operation paperclip and the Nazi's that took over the
    US space programme and may be behind the 'Rise of
    the fourth reich' in America.

    Fachism is the collaboration of State & industry.

    Which is where the states are today a collaboration of
    Corporate $ State ....LOL..



    Project Camelot interviews Igor Witkowski : The Nazi Bell




    Uploaded on 25 Jul 2010


    This interview was recorded in October 2009, but was only published in July 2010
    due to technical problems: several tapes were corrupted and one was lost, and the
    result is the best that I (Bill Ryan) have been able to do with the material.

    After a vivid start, the interview is one in which Polish military historian Igor
    Witkowski drills down, in considerable detail, into the fascinating history of the Nazi
    Bell - basically an advanced, highly classified physics experiment regarded by the
    Nazis as being of the highest importance for reasons which are still shrouded in
    mystery.
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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    THANK you for that video, I am still trying to figure out the site!
    Looks like a good one, and I am glad they were interested in this topic!

    Thanks for your help with the name of the plane!

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    No problems glad to help cheers steve.....

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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    Would have been a useful stop on the way to the antarctic as well. The antarctic being one of the more convenient places to do research with super conductors / super fluids since it is so cold.

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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    Quote Would have been a useful stop on the way to the antarctic as well. The antarctic being one of the more convenient places to do research with super conductors / super fluids since it is so cold.

    Funny you should say that, I was looking at the first few mins of this vid ,looks interresting.




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    For the first time, the legendary 2006 Russian documentary 'Third Reich - Operation UFO' in its entirety, fully translated into English and available for free viewing. Many thanks to Irina Du Toit for the translation and the saucer people for the subtitles.

    The film explores the historical mysteries and rumours of a Nazi secret base in Antarctica, the 1947 flying saucer attack on Admiral Byrd's ill-fated 'Operation Highjump' expedition and the occult origins of Third Reich anti-gravity engines, flying discs and ancient Atlantean technologies viewed through the lens of perhaps the three most mysterious twentieth century German organisations of all: the 'Thule Society, 'Vril Society' and the 'Ahnenerbe'

    One of the core themes of the film is the alleged existence of 'Base 211', the legendary underground Nazi base in the Antarctica. Drawing upon the pre-war Nazi interest in Antarctica and the creation of 'New Swabia'; the testimony of German U-Boat submarine commanders and the alleged disappearance of thousands of Nazi scientists and engineers at the end of the war, personnel that cannot be accounted for by the Vatican and Odessa 'rat lines' or American 'Operation Paperclip' activities. In addition, the film analyses the actual geo-physical possibilities of an underground base in Antarctica.

    The other core theme is the alleged existence of a Nazi flying saucer program and the many evidential strands that this area generates. From the supposed channeling of extraterrestrial engineering schematics by members of the German occult group 'Thule Society' in the early part of the twentieth century to the 'implosion engine' of Viktor Schauberger and its possible appropriation by the Third Reich.

    Bringing us to the the latter part of the twentieth century the documentary illustrates the many sightings of unknown crafts around the Antartic region and the theoretical basis for polar wormholes as entrance and exit points for visiting extraterrestrial spaceships and the possible involvement of HAARP, as well as asking why nearly all American Antarctic bases seem to be populated by agents of the National Security Agency and CIA.

    Like the study of any phenomena and/or events that exist at the edges of consensus reality, occupy imaginal realms and are subject to historical revisionism; the interface of myth and reality is a shifting mosaic of fact, speculation, disinformation and fantasy, or to use the phrase of head CIA counter-intelligence spook, James Jesus Angleton, we have entered a "wilderness of mirrors".

    Certainly there are elements in the documentary that give cause for concern such as the alleged "Special Bureau 13", the Nazi secret flying saucer research group and its similarity to the top secret government agency in the early eighties role playing game "Bureau 13: Stalking the Night Fantastic " (though equally the RPG title could be an insider homage to this secret Nazi organisation). Likewise, there is the lack of information on the existence of the US Navy destroyer 'Murdoch' in the testimony recounted by pilot 'John Sireson' in his description of the flying saucer attack on Admiral Byrd's fleet (testimony taken from an interview by the late pioneering American researcher Leonard Stringfield).

    Equally, the testimony of Admiral Byrd that flying saucers attacked the 'Operation Highjump' fleet is of historical record as is his testimony to Congress of enemies that have the ability to fly "pole to pole". Likewise, the creation of 'New Swabia' is as much a historical fact as the 'impossible' existence of the 'Piri Reis' map.

    What sets this documentary apart from most others of its kind is the inclusion of high ranking Russian scientists and military personnel and their testimony should not be discounted.

    As the great American anti-fascist researcher Dave Emory says of many elements of deep politics: "its food for thought and grounds for further research".

    Exopolitics UK and 'The Saucer People' are looking for other non-English UFO/alien related videos to help translate and subtitle, we have dozens of Russian documentaries waiting to be translated into English. If you speak Russian and are interested in translating any of this material please get in touch.

    Likewise, if your country of origin has produced any UFO/alien documentaries and are interested in creating English translations to be subtitled please contact us.

    It took a lot of hard work to make the translation of this documentary into English and create the subtitles and we would like to dedicate our work to the late American researcher Wendelle Stevens who is quoted in the film, In our opinion, Wendelle, who sadly died in 2011 was one of the few genuine professional researchers in the UFO community who like Linda Moulton Howe, actually went and spoke to the subjects and witnesses and researched cases first-hand.

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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    Tesla, have you ever read Joseph Farrell's "Roswell and the Reich: The Nazi Connection" or any of his other books. Here's a link to his interviews on the subject with George Ann Hughes of the Byte Show. Great stuff, highly recommended:

    http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html

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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    The Occult Roots of Nazism by Nicholas Goodrich-Clarke is also a very good resource. He gives full citations and even has some scans of actual documents, including some related to the Bell research.

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    Unhappy Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    Here is a little abstract compilation of stuff from about Nov/Dec 2011 on prisonplanet

    PLEASE READ: way too long to post here.

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=222237.0
    it covers lots of SS and occult stuff I think.
    Call it a research diary. ...or a waking up diary @.@

















    TWTCS Impression of Nazi Space Program^

    incidentally, they were also looking for the secret to eternal life...
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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    Quote Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
    Tesla, have you ever read Joseph Farrell's "Roswell and the Reich: The Nazi Connection" or any of his other books. Here's a link to his interviews on the subject with George Ann Hughes of the Byte Show. Great stuff, highly recommended:

    http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html
    sorry i didn't see this, not yet! will try.

    edit: holy mackerel

    how come i didn't find this guy!? his site is SOOOOO what I should have built,

    GD GD GD GD

    THANK YOU

    Quote http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html

    Roswell And The Reich; The Nazi Connection
    A New Series With Joseph P. Farrell

    Listen: Roswell And The Reich.mp3 (Part One ~ 6 Feb 2010)
    Roswell And The Reich2.mp3 (Part Two ~ 24 Nov 2010)
    Roswell And The Reich3.mp3 (Part Three ~ 25 Dec 2010)

    http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/Jos...Reich1_TBS.mp3
    http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/Jos...ov2010_TBS.mp3
    http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/Jos...ec2010_TBS.mp3
    TWTCS says: My grandfather was a nuclear scientist in the air force, and had to go through more security every single day than i ever once saw in my whole career of 5 years in the air force.

    The us air force, the CIA were created in 1947 during projekt paperclip as an extension of the arm of tyranny
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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    Wanted to bump this due to the recent article on CNN:

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/30/tech/e...html?hpt=hp_t2



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke

    Quote Die Glocke (pronounced [diː ˈɡlɔkə], German for “The Bell”) was a purported top secret Nazi scientific technological device, secret weapon, or Wunderwaffe. First described by Polish journalist and author Igor Witkowski in Prawda o Wunderwaffe (2000), it was later popularized by military journalist and author Nick Cook as well as by writers such as Joseph P. Farrell and others who associate it with Nazi occultism and antigravity or free energy research.

    According to Patrick Kiger writing in National Geographic magazine, Die Glocke has become a popular subject of speculation and a following similar to science fiction fandom exists around it and other alleged Nazi “miracle weapons” or Wunderwaffen.[1] Mainstream reviewers such as former aerospace scientist David Myhra express skepticism that such a device ever actually existed.[1][2][3]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak

    Quote A tokamak (токамак) is a device using a magnetic field to confine a plasma in the shape of a torus. Achieving a stable plasma equilibrium requires magnetic field lines that move around the torus in a helical shape. Such a helical field can be generated by adding a toroidal field (traveling around the torus in circles) and a poloidal field (traveling in circles orthogonal to the toroidal field). In a tokamak, the toroidal field is produced by electromagnets that surround the torus, and the poloidal field is the result of a toroidal electric current that flows inside the plasma. This current is induced inside the plasma with a second set of electromagnets.

    The tokamak is one of several types of magnetic confinement devices, and is one of the most-researched candidates for producing controlled thermonuclear fusion power. Magnetic fields are used for confinement since no solid material could withstand the extremely high temperature of the plasma. An alternative to the tokamak is the stellarator.

    Tokamaks were invented in the 1950s by Soviet physicists Igor Tamm and Andrei Sakharov, inspired by an original idea of Oleg Lavrentiev.[1]


    http://sciencefocus.com/forum/die-gl...l-t549-20.html

    Quote Re: Die Glocke - The bell

    Postby Piesander » Sep 16th, '10, 10:17
    Thank you for that extra bit of information about Bormann. Every crumb helps.

    The reason I use the word Tokamak is that Dr Karl Wirtz visited Richter's laboratory in 1952 and described Richter's device as a Tokamak.

    In turn the Argentine Government disclosed a classified report in 1993 that in May 1945 a multi engined German aircraft arrived in Entre Rios province where it unloaded a Bell.

    A large cargo aircraft is also documented to have evacuated the so called Bell device from Silesia in April 1945 just ahead of advancing Soviet forces. I have checked with Russian military historians and this was indeed plausible.

    Thus by a process of linking these claims I arrived at the conclusion that Richter's device either was the same device or else replicated the original Nazi device. Richter worked with high voltage engineers known to have worked on the so called Nazi Bell.

    I would describe it as a sperical Tokamak. The name Tokamak is only a name.

    There is evidence that in the 1920s Gerlach was himself performing experiments with a spinning plasma generator using mercury to generate fluoresence. As a person familiar with Plasma and spin polarisation you will therefore also understand that the spinning of mercury inside centrifuge like device assists to compress the plasma. Gerlach is said to have demonstrated transmutation of metals from one element to another in these experiments.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread482168/pg2

    Quote The Bell was smuggled into Argentina in May 1945 according to a an Argentine Government report only declassified in 1993. Ronald Richter reassembled the device at Nahuel Huapei between 1948-1951. Witnesses to Richter's Bell observed that it had a Tokamak like induction magnet. This device also drew huge amounts of electrical energy.



    http://new.math.uiuc.edu/math198/MA198-2009/farrell1/



    Quote Last edited 10dec09 by Matt Farrell Find this document at http://new.math.uiuc.edu/math198/farrell1
    Tokamak: Future of Nuclear Power
    Abstract

    Tokamaks are toroid shaped machines that take advantage of the relation between electricity and magnetism. A magnetic field creates an electric field, while an electric current creates a magnetic field. A tokamak uses multiple magnetic fields to influence the path of the plasma inside it.






    http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal...comms1622.html

    Control of magnetohydrodynamic stability by phase space engineering of energetic ions in tokamak plasmas

    J.P. Graves,
    I.T. Chapman,
    S. Coda,
    M. Lennholm,
    M. Albergante
    & M. Jucker

    Affiliations
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    Corresponding author

    Nature Communications
    3,
    Article number:
    624
    doi:10.1038/ncomms1622

    Received
    17 October 2011
    Accepted
    29 November 2011
    Published
    10 January 2012





    The energetic ions in Earth's magnetosphere (a) and the tokamak (b) are confined to spherical and toroidal surfaces, respectively. Three essential types of confined orbits are possible in the tokamak configuration (b) ...



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    Default Re: Paraguay, the Nazi Ratlines, The Third Reich Projekt die Glocke, and Roswell -- what connection?

    Mark Felton’s final vid on the mystery of Martin Bormann’s end. Am pleased to have found a Paraguay thread that this Nazi’s story might complement.

    Have read though most of the material here, and found a quote that rings relevant today:

    “Like the study of any phenomena and/or events that exist at the edges of consensus reality, occupy imaginal realms and are subject to historical revisionism; the interface of myth and reality is a shifting mosaic of fact, speculation, disinformation and fantasy, or to use the phrase of head CIA counter-intelligence spook, James Jesus Angleton, we have entered a "wilderness of mirrors". - from post #8 above, placed by cidersomerset.


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