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    Su-34 crash in Yeysk was due to flight rule violations — Investigative Committee

    It is reported that the plane’s technical malfunction is the main line of inquiry

    MOSCOW, October 18. /TASS/. The Investigative Committee has qualified Monday’s plane crash in Yeysk as a result of violations of rules of flights or preparations for them.

    "The Main Military Investigative Directorate of Russia’s Investigative Committee continues the investigation of a criminal case opened under article 351 of the Criminal Code (violation of rules of flights or preparation for them) over the crash of a Sukhoi-34 plane in Yeysk," the IC’s press-service said in a news release.

    The investigation has taken for analysis samples of fuel at the airdrome of departure, as well as the necessary documentation.

    "Pilots who managed to eject themselves, as well as airfield personnel, are being questioned. Flight recorders have already been recovered from the crash site for examination," the IC said.

    The plane’s technical malfunction is the main line of inquiry.

    On the evening of October 17, a Su-34 bomber crashed in a residential area of Yeysk. According to the Defense Ministry, one of the engines caught fire during takeoff. The burning fuel spill spread to a nine-storey apartment building. As a result of the emergency, 13 people, including 3 children, died, and another 19 were taken to the hospital with various injuries.
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    Three Good Pieces On The War In Ukraine
    October 17, 2022

    I am busy with renovation work but here are three good pieces about the war in Ukraine:

    A war Russia set to win - MK Bhadrakumar / Tribune India
    > Plainly put, the Europeans have been nicely played by the Americans. India should take note of the US’ sense of entitlement. Basically, the Biden administration created a contrived energy crisis whose real aim is war profiteering.
    ...
    India should expect the defeat of the US and NATO, which completes the transition to a multipolar world order. <
    Why the US must press for a ceasefire in Ukraine - Jack F. Matlock Jr. / Responsible Statecraft
    > Increasingly, European publics are likely to blame the United States for policies that fuel inflation and bring on economic recession, especially as their currencies weaken against the dollar. The U.S. sanctions on Russia will be seen by many as self-serving attempts to dominate Western Europe.
    A new iron curtain is now being imposed on Russia — this time by Western policy — even as the United States announces more measures to confront and “contain” an assertive China. This will result, inevitably, in more cooperation between Russia and China. Also, the increasing use of economic sanctions to achieve political purposes will encounter push-back with a greater volume of international trade conducted in national currencies other than the U.S. dollar.

    As Europe is weakened and more countries suffer from U.S. sanctions, coalitions to resist U.S. dominance will flourish. Geopolitical competition will take precedence over action to deal with common problems, even as international conflict intensifies them.

    What all the parties to the conflict in Ukraine seem to have forgotten is that the future of mankind will not be determined by where international borders are drawn — these have never been static in history and doubtless will continue to change from time to time. The future of mankind will be determined by whether nations learn to settle their differences peacefully. <

    The Neocons and the Woke Left Are Joining Hands and Leading Us to Woke War III | Opinion - David Sacks / Newsweek
    > What makes the "I stand with Ukraine" version of the Twitter mob unique is that it brings together two forces that used to be sworn enemies of one another—the woke Left and the neoconservative Right. It turns out they share many of the same loathsome ideological and personality traits, and have a similar "slash and burn" approach to political engagement. It's a new political marriage.
    ...
    This shift is disorienting, but on a purely tactical level, it makes a certain amount of sense. Neocons invented the cancellation game before there was even a Twitter board on which to play it. Neocons arrogantly dismiss the other side's point of view as argued in bad faith and not worth considering, and label anyone who dares question the cause as a heretic or traitor.
    ...
    Warping the debate in this way allows delusional and contradictory thinking to go unchallenged. Thus, we get the argument that Putin is a madman who will kill indiscriminately to achieve his aims—but he is also somehow definitely bluffing about using nuclear weapons. And he's only using that bluff because he's losing the war—but if he's not stopped in Ukraine, he will go on to conquer the rest of Europe. Putin's regime must fall because he has killed or jailed all the liberal reformers and yoked himself to a hardline Far Right, but somehow he will be replaced by a liberal reformer when his regime collapses.
    It's nonsensical, and a real debate would expose some of the delusions in this thinking. But we aren't allowed to have one.

    As long as this woke-neocon alliance is allowed to set the terms of the debate, we will continue to see a one-way ratchet toward greater and more dangerous escalation of this conflict. <

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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    No!
    I will not do your research for you on such a well documented topic. There are ample resources here at Avalon to start you off.

    You were quite able to dig out one quote, then find others in relation to the turn of events recently and through the last 100 or 1000 years. Compile your evidences, do your diligence.

    It is immense and intensive subject. Enjoy your journey. Be sure to create a thread and post your findings at Avalon.

    We are days away from a potential nuclear event, this should focus your mind.

    Why so unhelpful? It would only take a couple minutes of your time to explain your assertions. The burden of proof is on you - it’s not my responsibility to research or validate your claims.

    Oh, and if we were 'days away from a potential nuclear event', do you really think that would be a good use of my remaining time?
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    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    We are days away from a potential nuclear event
    I just wanted to gently step in here and offer my VERY strong opinion that this is not the case, despite a great deal of western media fearmongering and provocative White House saber-rattling.

    I felt I should share my view in case others reading this may be feeling anxious — about something they would be powerless to do anything about. That kind of situation always adds to the worry. There are many things to be concerned about in the world right now, which one CAN mitigate proactively, at least to some extent. Taking action against potential problems, where it's possible, is always the best remedy.

    There's not going to be a nuclear war.


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    NATO Starts Nuclear Drill "Steadfast Noon" with 60 aircraft, B-52 bombers and other missile carriers

    NATO on Monday launched its regular nuclear deterrence drills in western Europe.

    The 30-nation alliance has stressed that the “routine, recurring training activity” -- which runs until October 30 -- was planned before Moscow invaded Ukraine and is not linked to the current situation.

    It will involve US B-52 long-range bombers, and up to 60 aircraft in total will take part in training flights over Belgium, the United Kingdom and the North Sea.

    The nuclear drills - which do not involve live bombs - are taking place amid heightened tensions after Russia repeatedly threatened nuclear strikes in Ukraine following major military setbacks on the battlefield there.

    “Steadfast Noon” is likely to coincide with Moscow’s own annual nuclear drills, dubbed “Grom,” which are normally conducted in late October and in which Russia tests its nuclear-capable bombers, submarines and missiles.

    The drills that will involve 14 countries and up to 60 aircraft, including the most advanced fighter jets on the market and U.S. B-52 long-range bombers that will fly in from Minot Air Base in North Dakota, the statement said.

    This drill takes place every year, like Russia does, but always over different countries and locations. This time it involves locations & training flights to be conducted over Belgium, Great Britain and the North Sea.


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    Monkey Werx US Is watching as much air traffic as he can see data for.

    Poland is being packed with troops and supplies, and something happened off the coast of Malta a few days ago that might have been a destroyed submarine. He watched intense sub hunter activity there in his earlier video and Dutchsinse ( the guy who watches earthquakes ) contacted him to say there was an unusual 'earthquake' there.

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    Russia's Medvedev Gets Blunt with Israel

    Russia's Deputy Chairman of its state Federation Council (Senate) had strong words for Israel about supplying weapons to Ukraine . . .

    Dmitry Medvedev doesn't post a lot on his social media (Telegram) account, but when he does . . . Oh Boy!

    Writing on his channel Monday, Medvedev put it blunty:

    "Israel seems to be going to supply weapons to the Kyiv regime. A very reckless move.

    It will destroy all interstate relations between our countries.

    I'm not talking about the fact that the Bandera geeks were Nazis, and remained so. Just look at the symbolism of their modern henchmen. If they are supplied with weapons, then it is time for Israel to declare Bandera and Shukhevych their heroes..."

    When Medvedev says "It will destroy all interstate relations between our countries." he means it.

    Israel is sleepwalking right towards Armageddon.

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    https://www.rt.com/russia/564934-gen...ine-operation/

    Russian general in charge of Ukraine operation speaks out

    Sergey Surovikin described the situation as “tense” and has not ruled out that he might have to make difficult decisions

    Army General Sergey Surovikin on Tuesday spoke to the media for the first time since assuming overall command of the ongoing Russian military operation in Ukraine.

    Describing the situation as particularly “tense” around the city of Kherson in his statement to the broadcaster Rossiya-24, he added that the military may be forced to make “difficult decisions.”

    “The NATO command of the armed forces of Ukraine has long been demanding offensive operations in the Kherson direction from the Kiev regime, regardless of any casualties – both in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and among the civilian population,” Surovikin stated.

    The Russian military is aware of Kiev’s plans to use “prohibited” means of waging war in the Kherson area, Surovikin added. Namely, Ukraine is preparing a massive strike on the Kakhovka hydroelectric plant, located on the Dnieper River, as well as launching massive rocket and artillery attacks on Kherson itself.

    “These actions can lead to the destruction of the infrastructure of this large industrial center and massive casualties among the civilian population,” Surovikin said.

    In the ongoing effort to dislodge the Russian military from its positions, Kiev is pouring its reserves en masse into the frontline, the general said. The vast majority of those reserves are “territorial defense units, who have not been properly trained,” Surovikin added. Such troops have low morale, thus they are propped up by “barrier squads” composed of hardline nationalists “who shoot anyone trying to leave the battlefield,” he claimed.

    The enemy’s daily losses amount to hundreds of casualties. We have a different strategy. <...> We are not aiming at fast-paced offensives, we spare every soldier and methodically grind the enemy’s attacking forces. This not only minimizes our own losses, but also significantly reduces the amount of victims among the civilian population.

    “The enemy is the criminal regime that pushes Ukrainian citizens towards death. We are one people with Ukrainians and only wish for Ukraine to be a state independent from the West and NATO and friendly towards Russia,” Surovikin said.

    Surovikin assumed overall command of Russian troops participating in the military operation earlier in October. The general has significant combat experience, ranging from hostilities in Chechnya to the operation in Syria, for which he was awarded the title of Hero of Russia back in 2017.

    READ MORE: ‘General Armageddon’ to lead Russian forces in Ukraine
    According to media reports, Surovikin was given the nickname ‘General Armageddon’ by his colleagues over his hardline and unorthodox approach to warfare. His elevation into the new role has coincided with Russia ramping-up aerial bombings across Ukraine, with cruise missiles and suicide drones attacking crucial infrastructure sites in the country.
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    Why so unhelpful? It would only take a couple minutes of your time to explain your assertions. The burden of proof is on you - it’s not my responsibility to research or validate your claims.

    Oh, and if we were 'days away from a potential nuclear event', do you really think that would be a good use of my remaining time?
    Do your own research.
    There are enough key-words in my piece to assist you. There is a trove of info waiting for you. Worst case scenario, read the transcripts of Vladimir Putin and Serge Lavrov on their views and opinions working with the West to provide other useful references. Read European and Middle East history.

    I am not going to elaborate on my post any more than what had already been produced.

    I'm doing this to prevent this turning into a flame war, "you said - he said", with accusations being leveraged at me and subsequently Avalon for some sort of defamation accusation.

    Furthermore, it is incumbent on you to show or prove the elements posted by me were incorrect. If and when you do, find the respective topical thread pertaining to the comment you wish to correct and we can check it too.

    Other than that, I have nothing more to add.
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    Thank you Bill, I too do not believe there will be a nuclear war either.

    I fear however, there is a very high chance a nuclear event occurs, to form a major global distraction away from the discontinuous political and election environments around the world at the moment. MSM would have a field day.

    I too pray for peace.
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    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...35595892457473


    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...35604813316096


    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...35611675238400


    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...35619225030656


    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...35627102253057

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