Does the world need Universal Basic Income ?

[Eagle Eye]

When it comes to Universal Basic Income even those who want to fight for the good side, becomes divided in two opposite groups. There are those who believe that time has come to try new powerful measure to end poverty and those who believe that this measure will bring less workers and promote laziness.

I think that people should live their life with basic needs fulfilled, in that way we will have a better quality of life, more productive workers, many will choose the work they want, there will be more free time to understand the meaning of life, less criminality (in my opinion), less stress and anxiety and more stability.

I vote in favour of Universal Basic Income, but only with the limitation of age, I would say 25 and up, because they need to be more aware and more responsible for their action, before they get that income.

[ExomatrixTV]

Noble Ideas such as "universal basic income" are hijacked by over the top psychopathic tyrannical & corrupt control freaks.

... posing as "saviors" bringing you heavily conditional "privileges" that is totally the opposite of true freedom!

• making technocratic enslavement "more acceptable" for the weak-minded! ... justified by assuming** it is "not" violating "free will" >>> meanwhile offering very deceptive tunnel vision choices.

>>> that is why I do not vote in this tunnel vision poll!

** another unchecked assumption serving only "the great (dystopian) narrative".



Truly understanding what "Self-Determination Rights" are ... is KNOWING it is the exact opposite of what WEF minions are doing worldwide with their Technocratic Tyrannical Dystopian "Global Governance" aka "Agenda2030" & "NetZero2050"



cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
October 19th, 2022 🦜🦋🌳

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Noble Ideas (such as basic income) Hijacked by over the top Psychopathic Tyrannical Control Freaks

... posing a s "saviours" bringing you heavily conditional "privileges" that is totally the opposite of true freedom!


Making Technocratic Enslavement more "acceptable" for the weak minded!

It's obvious that this system has it's controllers, it has them now and will be in the future, but that doesn't mean that we can't make an effort to make a change for the good of community. First we need to be clear that if this concept is for the good of people and then we can fight their evil plan behind it. I think the concept is in favour of humanity.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Noble Ideas (such as basic income) Hijacked by over the top Psychopathic Tyrannical Control Freaks

... posing a s "saviours" bringing you heavily conditional "privileges" that is totally the opposite of true freedom!


Making Technocratic Enslavement more "acceptable" for the weak minded!

It's obvious that this system has it's controlers, it has them now and will be in the future, but that doesn't mean that we can't make an effort to make a change for the good of community. First we need to be clear that if this concept is for the good of people and then we can fight their evil plan behind it. I think the concept is in favour of humanity.

They criminalize real solutions on so many levels ... keep on dreaming in the "hopenosis" (form of self-hypnosis) ...

• Should I make a list of examples of real solutions that are criminalized? To make a point?
• How long does it take for World Institutions to embrace only their version of "world crypto currency" connected to their A.I. & Chinese aka Orwellian style "Social Credit System" >>> eventually criminalize (almost) any other alternative barter systems ... or hijacking them! ... (total takeover buying them out).

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Isserley]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
...many will choose the work they want

This sounds like utopia. Who would do the less desirable work that no one wants - like cleaning the streets or public toilets, for example? AI robots?

[ExomatrixTV]

The extreme parasitic corrupt vulture global financial pyramid scheme fiat system is designed in such a way that it is DOOMED TO FAIL (which they already know in advance) and eventually people are begging to be enslaved via their version of a "universal basic system" (after the total collapse >>> which is by design) that will bypass many real freedoms & human rights we once had and fought for.

01. giving you a (temporary) false sense of "security" to the point you are so depended on the system that you will HELP their tyranny become even more effective & super efficient without realizing it and if you chose NOT to help them in any way ... you will lose your "security" they (temporary) gave you.

02. in short ... universal basic income using THEIR special global "crypto currency" connected to their "Social Credit A.I. Surveillance System" ... monitoring almost everything you do to "save the earth" blah blah.

03. the "micro managing" of all people who join their version of "universal basic income" will mostly not done by humans but done with Agenda2030 & NetZero2050 approved A.I.

04. I would not be surprised that in 2030 it will be the "new normal" that if you want to receive the "universal basic income" you are mandated (forced) to take multiple different "medications" (from their tunnel vision perspectives) and it will not only be experimental mRNA injections but many other big pharma products ... and you will help pay for it too ... same goes for (y)our children.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by Isserley (here)

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
...many will choose the work they want

This sounds like utopia. Who would do the less desirable work that no one wants - like cleaning the streets or public toilets, for example? AI robots?

Basic Income doesn't solve everything, people still need to work for a better life. I said many will choose not everyone, it will still depends on their qualifications for the job.

[Ernie Nemeth]

If we still believe in the free market and personal enterprise then UBI cannot be implemented. It runs counter to the forces of free enterprise that, via market supply and demand, sets prices and also determines the perception of the value of money.

If, regardless of personal input and effort, a UBI is introduced, it would undermine the free market, and devalue its fiat currency.

GDP, gross domestic product, would certainly suffer, under pressure from a working population that suddenly doesn't have to work to survive.

Our future has been stolen from us and now only the hardest workers with the highest pay can make this system work for them. The rest suffer month to month as their shrinking 'real wage' pay can no longer keep their finances in the black and they must make do with less.

UBI can work, however, in this system because it is not real, is not driven anymore by market forces, and the money supply has wreaked havoc on our perception of value. Luckily, in this current system, money can be printed ad hoc, in any amount needed, to cover shortfalls.

UBI is about control and is not a mercy bestowed upon us by a caring class of our betters. Those that would make a use of a UBI are the enemy of the ruling class. Those that would opt out of society to take a UBI are the epitome of useless eaters and are directly in the crosshairs of those in control of our lives.

Any who sign on for a UBI are only sticking their neck out for future extermination.

[ExomatrixTV]

• WEF version of "universal basic income" is the ultimate control mechanism ... especially when A.I. is involved ... selling it as a "neutral impartial A.I. judgment system" for all involved ... which may appear correct for a while ... until you know THEY decide what the new "narratives" (parameters) are ... which can change the moment new (manufactured) crisis arise!
• do not think WEF will stop "brainstorming" how to control the masses more efficiently ... they know they have to sell it in a "friendly" way at first ... until to the next phase.
• they openly brag how they experiment in all kinds of "behavior control" experiments and do not even care if you can show the evidence they think like that >>> meanwhile all WEF puppets will claim it is all for "the greater good" and done with "only good intentions".

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

• The poll options are way too limited in my view ... here is why:

"I am not sure, I have a mixed opinion on this" ... versus ... "I am sure, I have multiple (mixed) insights against this"

• or much better:

"I am sure, I have multiple (mixed) deep insights on how corrupt this eventually can become"

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Mike]

I've noticed over the years that people on state benefits are almost unfailingly the same type of person (...and I'm not talking about the elderly here, or the sick/infirm, or retirees, etc. I'm talking about the large number of people who are capable of work but exploit the system to sit on their asses all day instead).

They're soft, entitled, deeply narcissistic, and - strangely! - hyper critical of the very government who make their cushy lives possible. It's like a disease. People that do this imagine they've achieved freedom in some way, but in reality they're forfeiting their autonomy without even realizing it. You can't live that way without seriously corrupting your mind and spirit in a very real manner.

When you are active and interacting with the world, and having new experiences, it quite literally rewires your brain. That is how you evolve. If you're not evolving and moving forward, you are devolving and moving backward. This isn't just philosophy, it's science. There's no standing still, there's no stasis. It atrophies your mind and spirit, much like inactivity atrophies your muscles.

If there is such a thing as sin, it's dumping the responsibility to support yourself onto someone or something else. And you're not just dishonoring them, you're dishonoring yourself. You disrespect others, yourself, and your creator even.

UBI would create entire countries of these type of people.

So I think universe income is a terrible idea, and I've only just begun to explain why! It's just one more step in the direction of communism really

[Bill Ryan]

Wrong question.

The problems for families in the world right now are all supply-side: food, energy, gasoline/diesel, and in some places, water. Governments in Europe are trying to give families more and more money to compensate. That makes no difference at all if the needed resources aren't there to be bought. The only outcome is inflation.

That's what brought down the British Chancellor (Finance Minister) Kwasi Kwarteng (and will also bring down Prime Minister Liz Truss very shortly) — his budget increased demand without doing anything about supply. Universal Basic Income is really just a variant on that.

[Mike]

Posted by Isserley (here)

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
...many will choose the work they want

This sounds like utopia. Who would do the less desirable work that no one wants - like cleaning the streets or public toilets, for example? AI robots?

Right!

You'll notice that utopians never explain this stuff lol. In fact, they are able to explain very little in the way of details.

Their mentality is as follows: the world isn't working the way it should exactly, so they suggest tearing it all down. They offer a utopian vision to inspire the tearing down. But they never offer any kind of plan for the interim. It's all supposed to work out perfectly thru communist magic or something.

And it's in this interim where all the people starve to death.

UBI is just another utopian type delusion. It disregards basic economics, human nature...did I mention basic economics and human nature? It would quickly destroy any country it was implemented in

[iota]

i have almost zero time today, and my apologies for not reading posts on thread yet

but i saw question and just wanted to comment quickly

what the world NEEDS is to reclaim our power and sovereignty

the ENTIRE mess we are in, is directly correlated to the subjugation of our COLLECTIVE will

and relinquishment of our power

and THAT is the ONLY way the teenie, teenie, almost insignificant number of parasites

renaming themselves "elite"

are able to do ALL that they do

FURTHER relinquishment of our power, with hands stretched out in:

"give me, give me" is a choice in wrong direction

how about?

"there ARE conditions that are decidedly destructive

having negative repercussions the world over (initiating WWII)

that YOU (governing parasites) were hired by US,

your bossses, to take care of as our representatives

BECAUSE you have failed miserably to do that?

and in fact, turned out to be homicidal maniacs?

we are terminating your power, authority AND ability to harm us further

i think that might, possibly, conceivably be a teenie bit better than a few coins to purchase

things i'm not even finding at stores to purchase now

just saying ...



i believe RE-clamation of our power would be a more viable and sustainable solution

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Wrong question.

The problems for families in the world right now are all supply-side: food, energy, gasoline/diesel, and in some places, water. Governments in Europe are trying to give families more and more money to compensate. That makes no difference at all if the needed resources aren't there to be bought. The only outcome is inflation.

That's what brought down the British Chancellor (Finance Minister) Kwasi Kwarteng (and will also bring down Prime Minister Liz Truss very shortly) — his budget increased demand without doing anything about supply. Universal Basic Income is really just a variant on that.

I think the inflation will be depended on how UBI will be funded. If it is funded by printing more money, then the inflation will be unavoidable, but if it's funded by progressive taxation, it will be redistributed from the wealthiest to the majority of people. Also it will help them to reduce debts, which cause inflation too.

[iota]

PS

sometimes we think: "but HOW?"

we JUST did it with PayPal, what some thought to be invincible?

we dealt a lethal blow to in days! see here

we are CHOOSING daily

it works like this:

WITHDRAW support from what doesn't serve us

and SUPPORT what DOES!

and the plane we have been given to practice in?

is our personal lives ..

it is ALL connected

[Mark]

It's going to be a great determinant of who will be included within the coming global system 2.0 after global system 1.0 folds. It's the last step that will be taken to actually implement the social and economic control system fully and will require cards and chips to consolidate full system control.

For those within the system, they will be monitored, much as we are now, but probably at an even deeper level, biometrics and continuous health monitoring. Medical, economic and social systems will be consolidated and databases containing linked information on everyone within the system will be easily accessible by administrators from every sector of the system. Every sci-fi movie we've seen showing this kind of world has given us all a very clear idea of what it will look like. Just as we know what the opposition is supposed to look like.

They make it look like a hardscrabble life, with people barely finding food in Mad Max environments. I doubt it would look like that everywhere, though. People will get together and make lives and create new systems as well, but they will be the enemy of global system 2.0 and find themselves attacked and their children as prizes to be won within the system by families desirous of such. Hunger games, Divergent series, you name the post-apocalyptic scenario. They can all co-exist simultaneously. Transhumanism, bioengineering. A global, paganistic religion. Or maybe a faux-Christian one. Chinese culture become global culture, American and Western European culture subsumed to a level of parity with other African and Mesoamerican cultures.

I'm sure we could all go on and on about what it will look like. Good for some, not so good for others.

[Matthew]

The classic UK welfare state is already a type of UBI but with a tangled quests of bureaucracy. The actual benefit is a pittance to live on, barely possible. I'm fine with the welfare state, friends have relied on it from time to time, and it makes a difference because of the rent help. But being illogical I'm not a fan of UBI, because like ExomatrixTV's opinion; it's been hijacked. Which is a shame because the pittance that is the welfare state benefit would be better if there were less forms.

[Tyy1907]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
When it comes to Universal Basic Income even those who want to fight for the good side, becomes divided in two opposite groups. There are those who believe that time has come to try new powerful measure to end poverty and those who believe that this measure will bring less workers and promote laziness.

I think that people should live their life with basic needs fulfilled, in that way we will have a better quality of life, more productive workers, many will choose the work they want, there will be more free time to understand the meaning of life, less criminality (in my opinion), less stress and anxiety and more stability.

I vote in favour of Universal Basic Income, but only with the limitation of age, I would say 25 and up, because they need to be more aware and more responsible for their action, before they get that income.

I agree more fairness could be brought in in many ways but let me ask: do you think this universal income could be brought in at this time fairly and equitably, given the disheveled state of the world around us?

[ExomatrixTV]

What exactly have we learned last 3 years about the:

• 01. insane (pushed) wokism
• 02. insane (pushed) cancel culture
• 03. insane (pushed) climate hysteria
• 04. insane (pushed) tunnel vision narrative about Nato-Ukraine-Russia Proxy War
• 05. insane (pushed) covid hysteria lockdowns mandates face-masks social distancing etc. etc.
• 06. insane (pushed) mass experimental mRNA injections with tons of adverse "side effects" which ARE the effects!
• 07. insane (pushed) framers environment regulations "green agenda" global induced food crisis etc. etc.
• 08. insane (pushed) "energy transition" (NetZero2050 & Agenda2030) causing extreme inflation!
• 09. insane (pushed) rigged elections
• 10. insane (pushed) ... etc. etc. >>> the list of: "new normal normalizing insanity" is much longer ...

Do you really think that those who are behind all (or some of) the above will "change their ways" when they introduce "universal basic income"? ... Hell No! ... it only makes it much easier for them to go to the next level of global tyranny!

And yes those who obey (willfully comply) and those who are part of this (evil) dehumanizing system will feel very cozy & nice! ... They will not see the problem because everything is done "for the greater good" for "the great narrative" and they really think you are "crazy" to openly criticize anything I just mentioned >>> meanwhile defending total insanity defying all common sense & logic.

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
October 20th, 2022 🦜🦋🌳