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    Moscow comments on alleged military use of Iranian drones

    All weapons used by Russian troops are from domestic stockpiles, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said, reiterating a denial of reports that Moscow has been using Iranian-supplied drones against Ukraine.

    “No, we have no such information. Russian hardware is being used. You know it well. All further questions can be addressed to the Defense Ministry,” Peskov said on Tuesday.

    American and Ukrainian officials have claimed on many occasions that Russia received various unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) from Iran and was using them in the conflict with Ukraine.

    On Monday, multiple drones were spotted flying over the Ukrainian capital Kiev, with troops desperately trying to shoot them down with small arms, according to videos from the scene.

    At least one “kamikaze drone” was reportedly hit and crashed into an apartment block, setting off a deadly explosion. A soldier interviewed by Ukrainian television claimed that he was among those who managed to divert the aircraft off its course with gunfire, adding that he later helped rescue people from under the rubble at the crash site.

    Central Kiev hit by kamikaze drones – mayor
    Central Kiev hit by kamikaze drones – mayor
    The mayor of Kiev, Vitaly Klitschko, said that Russia attacked the city with 28 drones on Monday morning and that the Ukrainian military managed to intercept “most” of them. He reported a total of five explosions, including the one at the residential building. Other drones apparently reached their intended targets, including energy infrastructure facilities.

    The drones, designated Geran-2 in Russia, are allegedly a localized version of the Iranian-made Shahed-136. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky claimed last week that Russia had acquired as many as 2,400 Shahed UAVs, as he asked G7 members to provide more air defense systems.

    Last month Ukraine cut diplomatic ties with Iran over the alleged supply of weapons to Russia. Neither Moscow nor Tehran confirmed the purported purchase.

    READ MORE: Ukrainian official slams Bayraktar drones in prank call
    Kiev reportedly urged Israel to ramp up intelligence-sharing in response to Moscow’s alleged deal with Iran. Israeli Minister of Diaspora Affairs Nachman Shai said last Sunday that he supported taking Kiev’s side because of the claimed Iranian involvement.
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    Su-34 crash in Yeysk was due to flight rule violations — Investigative Committee

    It is reported that the plane’s technical malfunction is the main line of inquiry

    MOSCOW, October 18. /TASS/. The Investigative Committee has qualified Monday’s plane crash in Yeysk as a result of violations of rules of flights or preparations for them.

    "The Main Military Investigative Directorate of Russia’s Investigative Committee continues the investigation of a criminal case opened under article 351 of the Criminal Code (violation of rules of flights or preparation for them) over the crash of a Sukhoi-34 plane in Yeysk," the IC’s press-service said in a news release.

    The investigation has taken for analysis samples of fuel at the airdrome of departure, as well as the necessary documentation.

    "Pilots who managed to eject themselves, as well as airfield personnel, are being questioned. Flight recorders have already been recovered from the crash site for examination," the IC said.

    The plane’s technical malfunction is the main line of inquiry.

    On the evening of October 17, a Su-34 bomber crashed in a residential area of Yeysk. According to the Defense Ministry, one of the engines caught fire during takeoff. The burning fuel spill spread to a nine-storey apartment building. As a result of the emergency, 13 people, including 3 children, died, and another 19 were taken to the hospital with various injuries.
    Wow, okay. I have reservations about The Farsight Institute, as may many others, but this time around it seems as if one of the remote viewers - Kahmia Dunson - may have viewed this actual incident. Comes in at around the 22min mark (October predictions) here. Whatever their merits or not at FI I do think their RVers are genuinely gifted.
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    Putin signs decree on imposing martial law in four new Russian regions

    The Russian leader noted that martial law had been in effect in these territories before they joined Russia

    NOVO-OGARYOVO, October 19. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree on the introduction of martial law in four new regions of Russia.

    "I have signed a decree on the introduction of martial law in these four constituent entities of Russia (the Donetsk People’s Republic, the Lugansk People’s Republic, the Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions — TASS). It will immediately be sent to the Federation Council for approval. The State Duma has been notified of this decision," Putin said at a meeting of the Security Council on Wednesday held via video link.

    The president noted that martial law had been in effect in these territories before they joined Russia. "Now we need to formalize this regime in the framework of the Russian legislation," he explained.

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    Over 100 criminal cases opened over discrediting Russian army — Interior Minister

    It is noted that a total of 4,500 administrative offenses involving attempts at discrediting the Armed Forces and spreading falsehoods about their operations have been upset

    MOSCOW, October 19. /TASS/. The Russian Interior Ministry has initiated more than 100 criminal cases over attempts at discrediting the Russian armed forces and 4,500 administrative offenses have been prevented, Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev said on Wednesday.

    "A total of 4,500 administrative offenses involving attempts at discrediting the Armed Forces and spreading falsehoods about their operations have been upset. Over 100 criminal cases have been initiated on the basis of our materials," Kolokoltsev told the State Duma.

    In March 2022, a law was passed to establish criminal punishment for the dissemination of falsehoods about the Russian Armed Forces. Article 207.3 (public dissemination of deliberately false information about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation) was introduced to the Criminal Code. This article envisages imprisonment for up to three years or a fine of up to 1.5 million rubles. Also, administrative responsibility has also been introduced for discrediting Russian military servicemen.
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    White House taking every step possible to avoid direct Biden-Putin encounter at G-20

    U.S. officials also are taking precautions to avoid even a hallway run-in or photo meeting between the two leaders.

    The White House has held internal discussions for weeks about Putin’s possible attendance after Indonesian officials announced that the Russian leader would make a rare international trip there. There has been little disagreement within the West Wing about the conclusion that Biden should not meet Putin. But foreign policy experts have been more divided.

    Ret. Admiral James Stavridis, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe, said that if he were advising the president, he’d urge him to take the meeting.

    “He should lead with pushing for Griner’s release but also take advantage of the moment to look Putin in the eye,” said Stavridis, “and you tell him that ‘you are losing and you are on a collision course with destiny and it’s not going to come out well for you.’”

    Both of Biden’s immediate predecessors — Barack Obama and Donald Trump — crafted foreign policies that involved direct engagement with traditionally adversarial leaders; Obama as a matter of bridging difficult diplomatic divides, Trump as part creating personal and political alliances. Biden has had less engagement abroad. But in addition to meeting Putin previously, he also spoke directly with Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, despite pledging to turn the nation into a pariah.

    The success of those meetings has been limited. Saudi Arabia recently defied U.S. entreaties to keep hold off on cuts to oil production, and a White House official said it was “highly unlikely” that Biden would meet again with the crown prince, who is also slated to travel to Indonesia.

    Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia, recalled it was just a few months after Putin and Biden met in Geneva that Moscow began massing troops near the Ukrainian border. McFaul said he worried about a similar escalation should Biden meet with Putin again.

    “It’s a hard call. During times of crisis, channels of communication are important,” said McFaul. “But the problem of meeting is legitimizing him. You give Putin a platform to claim whatever he wants.”

    From the early days of the war, the United States has stressed that any negotiations with the Russians to end its invasion must involve the Ukrainians. And while diplomatic circles have buzzed for weeks about the possibility of a surprise visit to Bali by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, U.S. officials downplayed the chance, believing that he may appear via video instead.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    28 minute video from The New Atlas, Brian Berletic.

    Brian states that the violence that just erupted in Thailand where he is, is because of what’s happening in Ukraine.

    Update on Russian military operations against Ukraine for October 19, 2022

    - Russian missile and drone strikes continue for over a week, knocking out much of Ukraine's electric grid;
    - Ukraine is wasting precious small arms ammunition in failed attempts to counter Russian Geran-2 drones;
    - NATO claims it will send means to counter them - nothing of substance actually revealed;
    - Russian forces continue to advance in Bakhmut, indicating Ukrainian forces are stretched too thin;
    - Russian General Surovikin is focused on the defense of Kherson which is being evacuated;
    - Fighting may reach the city, Russia has in the past withdrawn forces rather than have them destroyed or captured;
    - Whatever gains Ukraine makes will be temporary - Kiev is trading its entire army for territory hoping for a political resolution in its favor ahead of a military resolution in Russia's;


    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...29350642012160



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    Israel supports Ukraine, refuses to supply them with weapons, says defense chief

    At the same time, Benny Gantz pointed out that Israel still intended to limit itself to providing only non-military assistance to Kiev

    TEL AVIV, October 19. /TASS/. Israel, together with its NATO allies, supports Ukraine, but still has no intention to supply Kiev with weapons, Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz said on Wednesday at a meeting with EU envoys, the Defense Ministry’s press service reported.

    "Israel supports Ukraine, NATO and the West and stands with them - this is something we’ve stated in the past and repeat today. Israel continues to support Ukraine through humanitarian aid deliveries and supply of life-saving defense equipment. I plan to approve an additional [aid] package, as we’ve done before," the press service of the Israeli Defense Ministry quoted him as saying.

    At the same time, Gantz pointed out that Israel still intended to limit itself to providing only non-military assistance to Kiev. "At that, I would like to stress that Israel will not supply weapons systems to Ukraine due to a number of operational reasons. We will continue to support Ukraine within our constraints, as we’ve done in the past," he noted.

    The top brass added that Israel was ready to help Ukraine in the development of an advanced air attack warning system as part of this policy. "We have sent the Ukrainians a request for an exchange of information regarding their needs in the area of air alert systems. As soon as we get this information, we will be able to help them develop a life-saving early warning system for civilians," Gantz noted.

    Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said on Tuesday that his country would send an official message to the Israeli government asking it to immediately provide Kiev with air defense systems. So far, Israel has not provided Ukraine with any military aid and has limited itself to sending humanitarian supplies to the country and providing medical aid to Ukrainians wounded as result of hostilities.
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    What Restrictions Will Martial Law in New Russian Territories Entail?

    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on the introduction of a state of martial law in Kherson, Zaporozhye, the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic on Wednesday during a meeting of the Security Council convened to discuss the situation in Ukraine and the Russian regions bordering the conflict zone.
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on the introduction of a state of martial law in four constituent entities of the Russian Federation: Kherson, Zaporozhye, the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic on Wednesday.
    "I've signed a decree on the introduction of a state of martial law in these four constituent entities of the Russian Federation. It will immediately be sent for approval to the Federation Council [Russia's upper house of parliament], and the State Duma will be informed of the decision," Putin said, speaking at a meeting of the Russian Security Council on Wednesday.
    The president stated that despite the constitutional laws on the admission of four new regions into the Russian Federation coming into force, the Kiev regime had refused to “recognize the will” of the people, rejected any proposals for negotiations, and continued its shelling, resorting to openly terrorist methods.

    Specific restrictions are set in place during the period of martial law. The rights and freedoms of citizens of the Russian Federation, foreigners, stateless persons, the activities of organizations and the rights of officials may be limited to the extent required to ensure the defense of the country and the security of the state.
    Additional responsibilities may be imposed on citizens, organizations and officials. Among these measures may be:
    Enforced maintenance of law and order, boosted protection of various infrastructure objects;

    Temporary resettlement of residents to safe areas, evacuation of infrastructure objects of economic, social and cultural significance, prohibition or restriction of the choice of place of stay or place of residence;

    A special regime of entry and exit from the territory where the regime of martial law is established, restriction of the movement of vehicles and their inspection;

    Suspension of the activities of political parties, prohibition of rallies and other mass public events, strikes;

    Participation of citizens in work targeting the needs of defense, liquidation of destruction, etc.
    Seizure of property with subsequent reimbursement by the state of its value;

    Prohibition of violation of curfew by citizens, whether in the streets or in other public places, checking of documents and inspection of vehicles;

    Prohibition of arms sales, weapons, ammunition, explosives and poisonous substances, the establishment of a special regime for the circulation of medicines and preparations containing narcotic and other potent substances, alcoholic beverages. In cases stipulated by federal laws and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation, seizure of weapons, ammunition, explosives and poisonous substances from citizens, and seizure of military and training military equipment and radioactive substances from organizations along with weapons, ammunition, explosives and poisonous substances;

    Introduction of military censorship of postal items and messages transmitted using telecommunication systems, as well as control over telephone conversations, the creation of censorship bodies directly dealing with these issues, and determining the powers of such bodies;

    Internment (isolation) of citizens of a foreign state at war with the Russian Federation in accordance with the generally recognized principles and norms of international law;

    Introduction of military command in organizations and public authorities;

    Termination of activities in international organizations, if it is established that they are performing activities aimed at undermining the defense and security of the country;

    Elections on territory where martial law is in force cannot be held;

    The text of the decree, grounded in provisions in the Russian Constitution, and the federal law 'On Martial Law' of 2002, has been published on the Kremlin's website and states that martial law will be introduced at 00:00 on October 20.
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    The Counter Signal founder Keean Bexte has been offered thousands of dollars of dark money to push pro-Ukrainian propaganda across his massive Twitter following.

    Article here: The Counter Signal





    Bexte was contacted on Twitter by a user named Volodymyr Kuzma, and offered $200 for each tweet in support of Ukraine. Kuzma asked Bexte to tweet several times per week. He also said he already has other journalists on his payroll.

    “Would you consider posting links to human rights articles on your Twitter page?” Kuzma said in a message to Bexte, who has more than 215,000 followers on Twitter.

    “These articles are published in well-known publications such as Amnesty, Reuters, DW, etc,” Kuzma continued.

    Kuzma then listed some example articles and said, “I am also willing to pay for each post published.”

    Facial recognition technology revealed that Kuzma is a Ukrainian journalist. Kuzma told Bexte he represents the organization “Humans Virtue.”

    He also told Bexte not to credit “Humans Virtue” for the posts, but to publish them anonymously, saying “no links to Humans Virtue are required.”

    “I will be given a list with links in a few days. The articles are ready, you will need to choose one from the list and publish it.”

    In another message, Kuzma asked Bexte what he thought about the war in Ukraine.

    “I am Ukrainian, I live in Ukraine at the moment,” he said.

    On Twitter, Bexte questioned where Kuzma is getting his massive cash flow from. The average salary in Ukraine was around $845 USD per month in 2021.

    “ Is this our own tax money being funnelled through Ukraine to buy off people to support their cause,” Bexte questioned

    “I thought Ukraine was on the good side – why are they buying off journalists?”

    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Here's a full transcript of the official translation of an interview given by Russian SMO commander General Surovikin yesterday.

    1) The Russian MoD website, but some may not be able to view it.
    https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operat...2442102@egNews

    2) A cached version, which may be more accessible.
    https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...nt=firefox-b-d

    ~~~

    Good afternoon, Mr. Surovikin! You were appointed the Commander of the Joint Group of Troops in the area of the special military operation by a decree of the Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation. A lot of Russian citizens are concerned about the current situation.

    The situation in the area of the special military operation can generally be described as tense.

    The enemy does not leave attempts to attack the positions of Russian troops. First of all, it concerns Kupyansk, Krasny Liman and Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction. Our enemy is the criminal regime that pushes Ukrainian citizens to death. The Ukrainians and we are one people and we wish Ukraine to be a friendly State for Russia, independent on the West and NATO.

    Ukrainian regime intends to break our defence. With this purpose, the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) are bringing all their reserve forces available to the frontline. These are usually territorial defence units that have not been completely trained.

    Ukrainian leadership is actually condemn them to death. This kind of units usually have low morale. To prevent desertions from the frontline, Ukrainian authorities involve blocking detachments manned by nationalists who shoot everyone who tries to abandon the battlefield.

    The enemy suffers everyday casualties from 600 to 1,000 people.

    We follow a different strategy. It has already been mentioned by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. We do not seek high rates of advance, but save every soldier and methodically 'grind down' the attacking enemy. Not only do we minimise our casualties this way, but also considerably reduce the number of victims among civilians.

    The Joint Group of Troops is currently taking measures to increase the combat and numerical strength in units and formations, to create additional reserve forces, to prepare defence lines and positions along all the line of contact.

    We continue launching attacks with high-precision armament at the military and infrastructure facilities that influence on the combat effectiveness of Ukrainian troops.

    Several days ago, the interim governor of Kherson region Vladimir Saldo stated that the authorities had decided to organise the possibility to leave the region to other parts of the Russian Federation for recreation or studying. It primarily concerns the right shore. The head of the region stated that these measures were taken to provide safery of civilians amid frequent attacks of the AFU. How would you comment on this decision?

    There is a difficult situation at the abovementioned direction. The enemy launches deliberate attacks at infrastructure facilities and residential buildings located in Kherson. Impacts of HIMARS rockets have damaged Antonovka bridge and the dyke of Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant where the traffic is currently stopped.

    It has resulted in impeding alimentation deliveries; certain problems have been recorded in supplying water and electricity. All of these not only complicates the residents' everyday life, but also poses a direct threat to their lives.

    NATO leadership that leads the Armed Forces of Ukraine has long demanded the Kiev regime to conduct offensive operations towards Kherson, regardless of any casualties: neither in the AFU, nor among the civilian population.

    We have got data on the possible use of prohibited methods of war by the Kiev regime near Kherson, on the preparation of a massive missile attack at the barrage of Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant, as well as launching a massive indiscriminate missile and artillery attack at the city.

    This action can lead to the destruction of the infrastructure of a large industrial centre and high casualties among civilians.

    In these conditions, our primary task is to save lives and health of civilians. That is why, first of all, the Russian army will provide safe departure of the population according to the resettlement programme that is currently being prepared by the Russian Government.

    Our further plans and action regarding the city of Kherson itself will depend on the military and tactical situation.

    I repeat: has already become very difficult.

    Anyway, as I have already said, we will proceed from the necessity to maximally save the lives of civilians and our personnel.

    We will operate consciously, promptly, not excluding to take difficult decisions.

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    Russia Destroys Satellite Uplink Station outside Odessa, Ukraine - all NATO Gear inside



    Russia has destroyed the Satellite Uplink Earth-station of the communications center of Ukraine.

    To destroy it, a special operation was organized by the Russian Army. After first pinpointing its location, it was hit using high-precision weapons.

    The destruction of this earth station - at least for the time being - has totally shut down Ukraine's secure government communications network, and has stopped the flow of NATO intelligence to Ukraine's government distribution network. Military planners are no longer able to get real-time intelligence via space satellite communications with NATO!

    This creates extremely serious problems for the Ukrainian government to organize operations and secure communications.+

    "In the area of ​​Palievka settlement, Odesa region, the communications space station of the Government Communications Center of Ukraine was destroyed, " the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation said during a routine briefing.

    According to the Russians, “ the consequences of the impact will be seen after the last pass by the Sentinel-2 and WorldView spacecraft.

    Intelligence community information is that the earth station was fully outfitted with NATO secure communications gear, and all NATO targeting data passed to the Kiev regime through this center. Its destruction is a massive blow to the Ukrainians.

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...to-gear-inside

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    Russia: "No Point" to continued Diplomatic Presence in the West


    In a shocking statement today, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said "Russia sees no point in maintaining diplomatic presence in the West."

    He continued by saying “It makes no sense, and we have no desire to maintain the same presence in Western countries. Our people work in conditions that can hardly be called human. They face constant problems, threats of physical attacks.”

    Lavrov went on to reveal "the Russian foreign ministry is currently carrying out a “geographical reorientation” of its activities both abroad and in the central office" suggesting a potential downgrade of Russia’s diplomatic presence in the West.

    Hal Turner Remarks

    Will this be a pretext for quiet embassy evac before the nukes launch?

    When Diplomacy is shut off, we all know what comes next.

    You know, if the United States or its NATO allies had one shred of self-respect, or one grain of honor, this whole Ukraine thing would never have taken place. But the people running the United States Government seem to me to have no honor - at all. They gave assurances to Russia that NATO "would not move one inch eastward" then later did the exact thing they assured Russia would NOT be done. That set in motion DECADES of betrayal of Russia, which have no lead us to the brink of actual nuclear war.

    Our assurance was given, and recorded in official US State Department Records, on February 9, 1990. A portion of those records appear below.

    The long and short of it is this: At a meeting in Moscow between then US Secretary of State James Baker, then Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, and then Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze, Baker spoke about the then-pending re-unification of East and West Germany. Baker expressly stated (Page 5):

    "I want you to know one thing for certain: The president and I have made clear that we seek no unilateral advantage in this process."

    On the very next page (Page 6), Baker explicitly stated:

    "We understand the need for assurances to the countries in the east. If we maintain a presence in a Germany that is part of NATO, there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east."+##

    For all those ignorant morons cheering Ukraine, let me educate you with facts and evidence proving we in the west - and the government of Ukraine - are in the wrong. Here are the official US State Department records proving the United States assured the Soviet Union upon the re-unification of East and West Germany, "there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east:"

    Cover Page of Freedom of Information Act release, so you can see the file number at the bottom:

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...ce-in-the-west

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    • European Protesters Rise Up Against NATO amid Rising Energy Prices:

    In Europe, NATO is increasingly being viewed as a warmonger. Europeans have many crises to deal with. What Europe is going through is nothing short of tragic. Amid an intense energy-cum-economic crisis where people are struggling to make ends meet on a daily basis, NATO and EU seem to be inkling for a war with Russia. The European Union’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell recently said the Russian military would be annihilated by NATO’s forces if tactical nuclear weapons were to be used in Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin responded by saying such a move would trigger a global catastrophe. Europeans, for one, have had enough. Now, they want to get out of NATO, and get out fast. That’s why anti-NATO protests are simmering all across Europe. Watch to know more.
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