Vaccine Crimes

[DaveToo]

Posted by onawah (here)
I don't know enough about the science to be able to say who is right and who is wrong about the details, but Karen Kingston certainly has credentials and is experienced in her field.
(She was also formerly employed at Pfizer, so has an insider perspective which also speaks to her ability to interpret the data.)
She is a frequent guest on Stew Peters and other shows such as Mike Adams', and there are other researchers who are coming to the same conclusions about what is actually in the jabs, etc.
That is what is most important to me and most readers I think it's safe to say.
If it's true that COVID was not a virus at all, but a lab-created parasite and nano technology that is killing and altering people in ungodly ways, if there is a connection with 5G, if there is a depopulation agenda being carried out via the jabs, etc., etc. etc. that's what we most need to know about.

I am open-minded about what COVID was all about and also about the jabs.
But we need to step back, take a deep breath, and think about everything Karen is saying and see if it makes sense.

She says COVID was a lab-created AI parasite using nano tech, BUT...
she also says the jabs contain the same technology!

So the first question that begs to be asked is, why do you need jabs that contain the exact same thing that COVID allegedly had?

The next question you need to ask yourself is, if Pfizer/Moderna et al are successful at killing off hundreds of millions or billions of people, won’t they be shooting themselves in the foot (committing suicide) and ensuring their death as businesses?

... Any mistakes about wording in patents, etc. will hopefully be ironed out in time.
What concerns me most is that the truth may get lost if the small matters get too much emphasis...

Karen’s theory certainly has merit (or parts of it) but I don’t think we should quickly dismiss
the patents she discussed and I analyzed. (They happen to be the only two patents
she had mentioned that I took the time to research.)

There were no mistakes in wording in the patents. There were mistakes in Karen’s reading of them.
Big mistakes.

And the mistakes helped form the foundation of her theory!
The part of her theory stating that people are getting tech into their system from the jabs,
that enables communication via Blue tooth signals and 5G.

There could very well be AI tech inside the jabbed.

But for someone to point to a couple of patents and say:

“Look it’s all here. It clearly states that yada yada yada . . .”

when it states nothing of the kind, is a problem for me
and reflects poorly on their reputation.

[onawah]

I'd say just for starters that you are missing the forest for the trees...
There are many reports from various credible sources and certainly not just from Karen, which demonstrate clearly that we are not getting the truth from the CDC or any of the sources that the mainstream media is featuring in their reports.
Reports about hydrogel, graphene and other metals found in the jab, nano tech and weird anomolies and clots in their blood, sudden death even among the healthy (such as athletes) and much more.
Again, I don't find it constructive or reassuring that you are quibbling rather than focusing on all of that accumulating evidence, but instead on points that are of much less significance.
Particularly at this very critical time when there is a push to make the jabs mandatory for children. (See:
CDC Adds COVID Jab to Childhood Immunization Schedule https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1524872 )
I can also see why anxiety about the future of the children and lack of time could be the cause of some possible oversights in the alternative research, but I don't find that to be nearly as concerning as the main points.

As for : "The next question you need to ask yourself is, if Pfizer/Moderna et al are successful at killing off hundreds of millions or billions of people, won’t they be shooting themselves in the foot (committing suicide) and ensuring their death as businesses?"

Not if their underlying agendas are depopulation and mind control of the survivors, and if the controllers behind the whole scheme are psychotic, which they clearly are (haven't you noticed?).
They've already made countless billions, so I doubt they are facing any kind of want.
In any case, when the time comes, they have their boltholes waiting.

Posted by DaveToo (here)
Karen’s theory certainly has merit (or parts of it) but I don’t think we should quickly dismiss
the patents she discussed and I analyzed. (They happen to be the only two patents
she had mentioned that I took the time to research.)

There were no mistakes in wording in the patents. There were mistakes in Karen’s reading of them.
Big mistakes.

And the mistakes helped form the foundation of her theory!
The part of her theory stating that people are getting tech into their system from the jabs,
that enables communication via Blue tooth signals and 5G.

There could very well be AI tech inside the jabbed.

But for someone to point to a couple of patents and say:

“Look it’s all here. It clearly states that yada yada yada . . .”

when it states nothing of the kind, is a problem for me
and reflects poorly on their reputation.

[Pam]

Posted by onawah (here)
I'd say just for starters that you are missing the forest for the trees...
There are many reports from various credible sources and certainly not just from Karen, which demonstrate clearly that we are not getting the truth from the CDC or any of the sources that the mainstream media is featuring in their reports.
Reports about hydrogel, graphene and other metals found in the jab, nano tech and weird anomolies and clots in their blood, sudden death even among the healthy (such as athletes) and much more.
Again, I don't find it constructive or reassuring that you are quibbling rather than focusing on all of that accumulating evidence, but instead on points that are of much less significance.
Particularly at this very critical time when there is a push to make the jabs mandatory for children.
I can also see why anxiety about the future of the children and lack of time could be the cause of some possible oversights in the alternative research, but I don't find that to be nearly as concerning as the main points.

As for : "The next question you need to ask yourself is, if Pfizer/Moderna et al are successful at killing off hundreds of millions or billions of people, won’t they be shooting themselves in the foot (committing suicide) and ensuring their death as businesses?"

Not if their underlying agendas are depopulation and mind control of the survivors, and if the controllers behind the whole scheme are psychotic, which they clearly are (haven't you noticed?).
They've already made countless billions, so I doubt they are facing any kind of want.
In any case, when the time comes, they have their boltholes waiting.

Posted by DaveToo (here)
Karen’s theory certainly has merit (or parts of it) but I don’t think we should quickly dismiss
the patents she discussed and I analyzed. (They happen to be the only two patents
she had mentioned that I took the time to research.)

There were no mistakes in wording in the patents. There were mistakes in Karen’s reading of them.
Big mistakes.

And the mistakes helped form the foundation of her theory!
The part of her theory stating that people are getting tech into their system from the jabs,
that enables communication via Blue tooth signals and 5G.

There could very well be AI tech inside the jabbed.

But for someone to point to a couple of patents and say:

“Look it’s all here. It clearly states that yada yada yada . . .”

when it states nothing of the kind, is a problem for me
and reflects poorly on their reputation.

Your points are made loud and clear and they are deeply appreciated . We are quickly finding out what is important within each of us. I do believe we are down to the end of this saga, age or yuga whatever way one sees it. I may be wrong about exact timelines, I am not intuiting dates and times , just signals. And from my perspective the signals from many perspectives are loud and clear. Does that equate to 1 month, 1 year, I don't know but the cycle is finishing up. One can see that as a blessing or a curse. We do get the choice of how we perceive it.

Onawah, I don't know if I have ever stated before how much I have appreciated you over the years. Your vast level of wisdom, your educating me along with Delight about vaccines along with a myriad of other things. Just want you to know you have been deeply appreciated.

[DaveToo]

Posted by onawah (here)
I'd say just for starters that you are missing the forest for the trees...

I don't think so. I have a very good overview of what Karen has been saying and ALL the big names in the
Covid-truther movement for the past 2.5 years.

I am extremely open-minded to all the theories put forward, including Karen's.

There are many reports from various credible sources and certainly not just from Karen, which demonstrate clearly that we are not getting the truth from the CDC or any of the sources that the mainstream media is featuring in their reports.

Check.

Reports about hydrogel, graphene and other metals found in the jab, nano tech and weird anomolies and clots in their blood, sudden death even among the healthy (such as athletes) and much more.

Check.

Again, I don't find it constructive or reassuring that you are quibbling rather than focusing on all of that accumulating evidence, but instead on points that are of much less significance.

If it was a small point, I wouldn't belabor it. I wouldn't even mention it.
But it's not.
As I said, her error forms the basis of her theory and it also shows very poor research skills on her part.

I don't have the time to do analysis of all the other patents she's examined and brought to our attention
(I only looked at the two I mentioned), but there is a good likelihood I would find similar errors, if the only two I did look at contained significant errors on her part.

I have a science background (biology/genetics) and it is child's play for me to analyze these patents.

Particularly at this very critical time when there is a push to make the jabs mandatory for children.
I can also see why anxiety about the future of the children and lack of time could be the cause of some possible oversights in the alternative research, but I don't find that to be nearly as concerning as the main points.

I am against pushing the jabs on anyone. Of course the children are the most vulnerable and it is a heinous crime to be doing this to them.

Again I want to be very clear.
I am open to the theories and messages Karen is putting forward and those of others that go against the official narrative.

I just find her carelessness to be very disconcerting and because of it I have to view her
in a different light going forward.

Does she have her heart in the right place? You betcha!
Does she help spread the word about the devilish jabs? You betcha!
Is she on our team? You betcha!

[onawah]

Then please, by all means, engage with her in some discussion and help her figure out where and how she has lost the thread, if that is indeed the case, and let us know how that goes.
THAT would be helpful.

Posted by DaveToo (here)

I am against pushing the jabs on anyone. Of course the children are the most vulnerable and it is a heinous crime to be doing this to them.

Again I want to be very clear.
I am open to the theories and messages Karen is putting forward and those of others that go against the official narrative.

I just find her carelessness to be very disconcerting and because of it I have to view her
in a different light going forward.

Does she have her heart in the right place? You betcha!
Does she help spread the word about the devilish jabs? You betcha!
Is she on our team? You betcha!

[Eva2]

Just started watching this - I thought this documentary was coming out towards end of Nov. but it seems to be loaded on youtube today.

'Died Suddenly FULL Documentary MOVIE (2022) Watch Online | FULL EPISODE - Stew Peters Show'

The movie won't play unless one clicks on a link and then is required to sign in from another site so I'm thinking it might be better to wait until Nov. when it officially comes out. I think this post should be deleted

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VMZpApSjS5s

[Delight]

Posted by onawah (here)
Then please, by all means, engage with her in some discussion and help her figure out where and how she has lost the thread, if that is indeed the case, and let us know how that goes.
THAT would be helpful.

Posted by DaveToo (here)

I am against pushing the jabs on anyone. Of course the children are the most vulnerable and it is a heinous crime to be doing this to them.

Again I want to be very clear.
I am open to the theories and messages Karen is putting forward and those of others that go against the official narrative.

I just find her carelessness to be very disconcerting and because of it I have to view her
in a different light going forward.

Does she have her heart in the right place? You betcha!
Does she help spread the word about the devilish jabs? You betcha!
Is she on our team? You betcha!

I ABSOLUTELY SECOND THIS SUGGESTION. It's the BEST way to contribute your critique and possible assistance?

[Pam]

I don't know if this is an appropriate thread. I know there is a thread somewhere about babies that were from vaccinated moms. I found this on You Tube and no said the mother was vaccinated. I think it was posted because it is so unusual that the infant that is allegedly under 24 hours old not only lifts its head put it almost looks like an older person. This just gives me the creeps.

I do need to make clear that I did not hear the mom was vaccinated but I would be shocked to find out if she wasn't.

My dentist has 5 kids. She had one during the pandemic and I suspect she had the vaccine. Her baby seems extremely underdeveloped for it's age. It was completely passive and disinterested in it's surroundings.. There could be other explanations for both of these but very interesting.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=y7se7SHTUOc

[Isserley]

Posted by Pam (here)
I do need to make clear that I did not hear the mom was vaccinated but I would be shocked to find out if she wasn't.

Can we attribute two diametrically different cases to the covid vaccine? -> the one in the video where the child is very developed for his age and this case of your dentist where the child is underdeveloped for his age. I can only add that I know a lot of cases of vaccinated parents who got pregnant without any problems and have healthy, normal children today (at least for now). I can't claim that it will be like that in the future, but time will tell.
I just want to say that those big claims about how the vaccine makes people infertile and the general claims about how the vaccine will cause mass death in the world within a few months, then next winter, then next couple of years are bull****. I just want to say that we should be more careful in our statements.

[Pam]

Posted by Isserley (here)

Posted by Pam (here)
I do need to make clear that I did not hear the mom was vaccinated but I would be shocked to find out if she wasn't.

Can we attribute two diametrically different cases to the covid vaccine? -> the one in the video where the child is very developed for his age and this case of your dentist where the child is underdeveloped for his age. I can only add that I know a lot of cases of vaccinated parents who got pregnant without any problems and have healthy, normal children today (at least for now). I can't claim that it will be like that in the future, but time will tell.
I just want to say that those big claims about how the vaccine makes people infertile and the general claims about how the vaccine will cause mass death in the world within a few months, then next winter, then next couple of years are bull****. I just want to say that we should be more careful in our statements.

You are absolutely correct. There had been discussion about the possible effects of the Mrna injection having effects on some babies. There were pictures shown of babies that very developed at birth. That is why I made the point that I have no idea if the mother was vaccinated. All I know is that they are saying(i have no idea if that is true or not either) that the baby is less than 24 hours old and it seems to be very advanced in it's ability to hold his head up with such control at that age. This was what we were looking at before. People sharing videos of there very advanced newborns.

It was shown as a possibility. There have been a number of us that have been following vaccine injuries. It is a learning and observing process. IF that video is real and that baby has that level of development it is unusual. As far as my dentist having a baby that appears somewhat slower in meeting traditional milestones of growth I have no way of knowing why that would be. But If you have been following the vaccine injured to any degree I 'm sure you are aware that not everyone is injured in exactly the same way. There are those that have neurological issues, clotting issues, cardiovascular issues and other complaints.

The whole outcome of how babies that are born to Mrna vaccinated mothers is new. I do not claim I know who is or who isn't. But I feel it is certainly worth watching.

It could be that the kid is some sort of brilliant well developed infant and is perfectly healthy. I would hope that is the case. But I believe you will have to agree that there those that have been damaged by that injection and it is not unreasonable to be suspicious or at least aware that infants that were in the womb at the time of injection may well have been effected in multiple ways. If I am totally wrong and there are no injuries from this thing that has damaged so many adults I will be delighted.

Just out of curiousity, if this is not some photoshopped video and this child really is that developed how would you explain it? Why do you think it occurred?

[onawah]

I think we have to be very careful about what source our information is coming from.
There is so much disinfo out there, with lots of people posting all kinds of garbage just to get some attention.
For example in the video in post # 928, how do we know that baby is actually a newborn?

[DaveToo]

Posted by onawah (here)
I think we have to be very careful about what source our information is coming from.
There is so much disinfo out there, with lots of people posting all kinds of garbage just to get some attention.
For example in the video in post # 928, how do we know that baby is actually a newborn?

I agree we need to be very careful about the source of the information we are getting!

In this case however, it does appear to be legit.

Listen carefully to the comments being made.
The two are likely the parents.
The man is amazed at the baby lifting its head and says so.

The woman (mother?) says "not even a full 24 hours yet".

And the background does appear to be a hospital setting.

[mountain_jim]

[Pam]

Posted by onawah (here)
I think we have to be very careful about what source our information is coming from.
There is so much disinfo out there, with lots of people posting all kinds of garbage just to get some attention.
For example in the video in post # 928, how do we know that baby is actually a newborn?

Your absolutely correct and I think I was more influenced that there was nothing talking about this being a vaccine injured child. I also am becoming more aware of how photo shopping has become very sophisticated and I will have admit to having my emotions on this child /immunization possibility with the mRNA and concern the damage that is a definite possibility over rule my being cautious.

The other side of the coin is if babies are being born with that level of development it is certainly not something to be ignored. I did state that I don't know if the mother was vaccinated or not so I may have been duped.. I did state that if this is a real video I bet she was vaccinated I gave an opinion. I never stated as fact . I do know there are many testimonials of women having abnormal cycle , women starting cycles long after they have stopped. So it is not unreasonable to keep our eyes open.

All in all, I have been immensely proud of the research and the information that we have gathered about the injection since the beginning. Not every thing that everyone came up with was right. This was very new to all of us. But a lot of effort by a lot of people came up with some information that may have been beneficial to many if they followed it. So I may have been duped on that one but I would rather show it and have a civil discussion about it, pros and cons that just ignore it.

I also admit to being naive about the levels people go to get attention on any sort of social media will go to. But point is taken. I need to remember that discernment is important, time will tell if these babies are effected and I would love to be the fool here that was gullible over a video, but I am still following data and we will be getting more as these babies mature, as they are given them on a repeated , regular basis. Time will tell us the outcome, but we are already seeing the mysterious deaths of young people that had no known health issues mysteriously dying. My own nephew developed Myocarditis, although he was in the young 20 range......

[Pam]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

I won't buy it unless it comes with a sign stating "safe and effective". Pretty dang funny mountain Jim.

[DaveToo]

Posted by Pam (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
I think we have to be very careful about what source our information is coming from.
There is so much disinfo out there, with lots of people posting all kinds of garbage just to get some attention.
For example in the video in post # 928, how do we know that baby is actually a newborn?

Your absolutely correct and I think I was more influenced that there was nothing talking about this being a vaccine injured child. I also am becoming more aware of how photo shopping has become very sophisticated and I will have admit to having my emotions on this child /immunization possibility with the mRNA and concern the damage that is a definite possibility over rule my being cautious.

The other side of the coin is if babies are being born with that level of development it is certainly not something to be ignored. I did state that I don't know if the mother was vaccinated or not so I may have been duped.. I did state that if this is a real video I bet she was vaccinated I gave an opinion. I never stated as fact . I do know there are many testimonials of women having abnormal cycle , women starting cycles long after they have stopped. So it is not unreasonable to keep our eyes open.

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Out of curiosity I did a quick search about this.

There were several videos about it. Here is one with many interesting comments below the video.

We've all read about SADS being normal now.
How about babies lifting their heads at birth being 'normal'?
The comments seem to be normalizing it.

[Pam]

DaveToo, did you read the comments about the video?


Gabriella Hale💕

Yes! My son did the same! She’s strong and healthy!!!

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Tayla Burke · Creator

It’s crazy how strong they are!

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Yes very normal.

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Megan Garza

My daughter did too!!

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Tayla Burke · Creator

They’re such strong little nuggets!!

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Veronica Kvale

Pandemic babies are built different! I recently saw a TikTok of a 6 month old WALKING!!!

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Rach Sharpe

Yup I literally gave birth and he straight up lifted his head up and looked at me I was shook!

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nancycoleman240

Fyp sooo cute

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Tayla Burke · Creator

🥰

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Blinddogsmom

Old wives tale says if they do this they’re moving fast to get out of the way for the next one.

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jordan younger 💫

Literally same Atticus lifted his head and upper body up out of the hospital bassinet & my mom and I SCREAMED 🥰🥰 special babies

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Tayla Burke · Creator

Oh my goodness!! I gotta meet this little guy soon ❤️

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kate

My daughter did the same! These covid babies are so smart and strong

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Tahlia Hinchcliffe

My son did

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JadeMarie

Yeah its normal 😅😅 they are so strong nowadays its crazy haha

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Stephanie

Yes it’s very normal

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helin

shes going to be a very strong girl 💞

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ziggy berman

my mom said i rolled over

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Tayla Burke · Creator

Crazy!!

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Lilly

very normal 🥰

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Jessica

yes very normal

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ESM

She’s ao cuuuute🥰

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bb

Awww

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Mz Moody

Yes.

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Jodie Astafan-McInty

Yup!

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😈devil_of_the_darkness😈

🥺 cute❤

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Robyn

Strong!

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Michelle Tagg

Super baby

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Jason Taylor

so cute

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chloerobertson728

aww 🥺🥰🥰

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user749611259334

Mine too

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harey&andertoonsrlclips

fyp so cute

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Free to Be

She’s beautiful!

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April Williams

yes!!!!!!!🥰

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Sherry Albanese

She is adorable

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Brittinee

Both of my sons did too!

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The comments were really interesting. Allegedly from their perspectives this seems to be happening and they see it as a good sign.

I remember in one discussion, maybe it was you Dave, that brought up a really interesting perspective of how long it takes the maturation process of a human being. How much longer we rely on an adult to care for us before we are on our own. But the animal population develops to independence faster, one of the factors, I believe is that they have been given instinctive survival skills at birth. They don't have the free will that humans do but they have instincts given to them. So they are on their own much quicker than humans. We as humans are not even provided with fur that naturally protects us, if we hadn't figured out ways to heat and how to create clothing in some environments we would die quickly. I always find that interesting.

The thought occurred to me that if these super babies are real is that they will develop faster but will be driven by instinct. They may be closer to the animal kingdom.It brings up all sorts of interesting possibilities. Once again, thinking out loud and pondering possibilities.

[DaveToo]

Posted by Pam (here)
DaveToo, did you read the comments about the video?


Gabriella Hale💕

Yes! My son did the same! She’s strong and healthy!!!

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Tayla Burke · Creator

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The comments were really interested. Allegedly from their perspectives this seems to be happening and they see it as a good sign.

I remember in one discussion, my it was you Dave, that brought up a really interesting perspective of how long it takes the maturation process of a human being. How much longer we rely on an adult to care for us before we are on our own. But the animal population develops to independence faster, one of the factors, I believe is that they have been given instinctive survival skills at birth. They don't have the free will that animals do but they have instincts given to them.

The thought occurred to me that if these super babies are real is that they will develop faster but will be driven by instinct. It brings up all sorts of interesting possibilities.

Yes I did read the comments, that's why I said "The comments seem to be normalizing it".

But before I discovered the video I went to a few med sites.
They all said 1-3 months is normal for a baby to hold its head up on its own.

No, that wasn't me who brought up the "maturation process of a human being" perspective.

[Isserley]

Posted by Pam (here)
The thought occurred to me that if these super babies are real is that they will develop faster but will be driven by instinct. It brings up all sorts of interesting possibilities.

Ok my sister in law told me that her baby girl held her head up a week after birth. That was in 1998.
Same girl started walking at 6 moths old.
It wasn't that odd then it is not so odd now.
At least not to me.

Take a look at these 7 years old posts from reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/beyondthebu...ead_trying_to/

[Harmony]

I do know a couple who got vaccinated and soon after the wife miscarried their expected daugnter.

Also, I have witnessed a baby that was born this year that looked very different in action and a very a different blank look in the eyes, kind of empty was my first thought. The other older child looked perfectly normal, so I did wonder if some babies may be different now.