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    Default It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

    I have come to the spot in my life where I believe that we are here only to experience.

    So we cant fail.

    So whatever it is that you're doing that is your mission here is a success.
    Success needs failure , love needs hate, kindness needs killing in order to separate, in order to understand hot from cold big from small.
    This is why we are contradictory beings.

    This is very hard to understand. We believe in a measuring stick of good and bad, regarding reward for our goodness and punishment for our bad.
    Good gets the bone, bad, punished. But what is good and bad?

    Heaven and hell are here. God implores us to be good and follow his word for our lives here, not in heaven
    Heaven is freedom for all, and all returning home. No exception

    the parables relate to life here. it would be easier to have a camel pass through the eye of a needle... then a rich man to enter the kingdom.
    yeah, money roots you into this 3 d temporary world where all will be lost. so managing that and holding on to it is suffering. Holding on to all here is suffering.

    same with identity.. Im a this or a that etc. wow! well are you successful? well what do you mean?
    I mean do you sell it? do you make money ? are you a winner etc ?

    thats our barometer. our ego entraps us in the game, and then we suffer and struggle with judgement, self hate and suffering.
    Thats hell.
    Heaven and hell are here.
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    Default Re: It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

    Life exists so that Universe, G-d, Infinite intelligence… can also experience itself.

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    Default Re: It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

    Doug

    What you said is very akin to Buddhism philosophy which I was very into
    some years ago. I still think it is a great way to see life.
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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    I have spoken to an NDE experiencer Sandi who is truly amazing. Sandi sent this to me


    I understood that everything that we do here on Earth, all that we are, all that we experience, allows creation to exist. Every beautiful thing, every wonderful being and creature, whether on earth or in any universe, relies upon people who are on the extremely rare places like Earth.

    The Great Intelligence (god) is a paradox. It is completely loving and fully unlimited. Which by the definition of paradox, means it is impossible? It cannot be limited only to love; it cannot be limited to only being unlimited; or it is not unlimited.

    Earth is a place where the unlimited becomes limited; where the singular becomes many. Here, it can know community and loneliness. It can know heartache and hope. It can know all which an unlimited being of pure love cannot. It can conceive and perceive evil; which in truth it cannot do this either.
    To solve the paradox, it must experience helplessness and limitation and all as it is Real. In this place, it is all so REAL.

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    成功人生的八大基石

    Eight Footstones for a Successful Life

    Xuefeng


    August 22, 2005

    (translated by Tongxin and Edited by Kaer)



    坚信上帝
    上帝是生命的源泉,智慧的源泉,是通往高层生命空间的根本保证,离开了上帝的人生,是魔鬼人生,是注定要被毁灭的人生。

    1. Believe in the Greatest Creator Firmly



    The Greatest Creator is the source of LIFE and wisdom, and this fundamental guarantee leads to higher LIFE spaces. Life that departs from the Greatest Creator is devilish life and is destined to be ruined.



    顺道而行
    道是真理,是心灵的源泉,是获得永恒生命的桥梁或通道,是升华生命品质的充要条件,无道的人生是虚幻的人生,是昙花一现的人生。


    2. Follow the way of Tao



    Tao is truth, the source of spirit and soul, and the bridge or channel of attaining eternal life. It is also a sufficient and necessary condition for sublimating LIFE quality. A life without following Tao is an illusion, as transitory as a night-blooming flower.



    尊敬君王
    国家主席,或总统,是一个社会群体的首领,没有首领的社会是无序的,无序的社会必然是动荡不安的社会,尊敬君王,是公民应备的品质,亵渎君王,与君王抗衡,等于失去了公民的基本品质,其人生必将是风雨飘摇、动荡不 宁的人生。


    3. Respect your National Leaders



    The president, king, or chairman of a country, is the leader of a societal group, and a society without a leader is a disordered society which will surely be unstable. Respect for the president or king is a necessary quality of every citizen. Desecration of or resistance to the president or king often results in a loss of the basic quality of being a citizen, such people will surely lead stormy and turbulent lives.



    孝敬父母
    天有天道,地有地道,人有人道,孝敬父母就是最大的人道。父母是肉身的根,不孝敬父母,就是毁根,无根的人生会导致成孤魂野鬼。


    4. Be Filial and Respect your Parents



    Heaven has the Tao of heaven, hell has the Tao of hell, and the same holds true for people. Being filial and respectful to ones parents is one of the main principles we should follow as human beings. Our parents are the roots of LIFE’s bodies on earth, and if we are not filial and do not respect our parents, then we will be destroying the roots of our lives, and such lives without roots will lead people to become lost and lonely souls.



    诚信待人
    人无信不立,失去了诚信,就容易变成魑魅魍魉,进入魔鬼行列,虽有人皮,但已不属于人类范畴。


    5. Be Trustworthy and Have Integrity



    We cannot be trusted without integrity, and once we lose our integrity, we will slip downward into the lower LIFE spaces of demons, devils, ghosts, and monsters, and join the camp of devils. Although wearing the “skin” of a person, such a LIFE does not belong to a human being any more.



    勤奋上进
    懒惰导致愚昧和贫穷,好吃懒做,东游西荡是败家子作风,一寸光阴一寸金,寸金难买寸光阴,人生一刻也不能松懈,要在奋斗中寻求快乐。好学上进,前途无量,悲剧人生属于得过且过,悲观消沉之人。


    6. Be Diligent and Motivated



    Laziness leads to ignorance and poverty, being gluttonous, lazy, and wandering around all day without purpose, and these are the wastrel's lifestyle. “An inch of time is an inch of gold, but even an inch of gold cannot buy back an inch of time”, life should not be wasted at any moment, but should cherish time and seek happiness in struggles. Those who are studious and motivated have bright splendid futures, but those who are shiftless, negative, and pessimistic can only have tragic lives.



    英勇善战
    不惹事,不怕事,提得起,放得下,善于赢,敢于败,全军覆没,能东山再起,横刀扬马,冲向难关,脸不变色心不跳,视死如归。

    7. Be Courageous



    Do not make trouble but do not fear trouble either, dare to face reality and let yourself go, be good at winning but dare to be defeated, be able to come back after being destroyed utterly, be able to hold the sword, fight on a running horse, and rush toward difficulties, always remain calm before danger, and be fearless and dauntless in the face of death.

    热爱群体
    天有不测风云,人有旦夕祸福,单独一个人能有多大能量?能应付得了危机重重,千变万化的困境?即使单独一人取得了巨大的成功,拥有了亿万财富,若没有几个"铁杆哥们"同甘苦,共患难,又有什么价值?



    8. Love Collective Life



    In nature there are unexpected storms, and in life, unpredictable vicissitudes. How much energy can single individuals have? Can they face heavy crises and changeable situations alone? Even if they achieve great success by themselves and own enormous amounts of wealth, if they have no trustable friends and close partners with whom to share their happiness and pains, what is the value of it?



    各显各的神通,群体一起过海,互相欣赏,相互照应,就象变形金刚那样,分开,可各自独自作战,协同作战,合拢,就是一个战无不胜的金刚体。不热爱群体的人生是寂寞孤独的可怜人生。


    Everyone shows their own magical powers and crosses the seas together, like the eight immortals flying across the sea (from a famous Chinese fairytale). Everyone appreciates and takes care of each other, like a transformer can not only fight well separately but also cooperate well with other parters, and becomes an invincible fighter when combined into one.





    Life without love for collective life is a sad life and suffers much loneness.



    以上是成功人生的八大基石,缺一不可。

    Above are the eight footstones of a successful life, and none of them can be excluded.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    人生的成功和失败

    雪峰


    千百年流传下来的错误人生观需要拨乱反正。

    传统认为,一个人挣了大钱,做了大官,出了大名,光了宗耀了祖,被周围人羡慕,就是成功人生。生命禅院理念认为,一个人一生健康平安顺利如意,一直活得开心、快乐、自由、幸福,就是成功人生。

    以前我们也认为,人生要开心快乐自由幸福必须得有先决条件,而这个先决条件主要是要有钱,要有财产,要拥有丰厚的物质基础,同时,还要活在人前头,要让周围的人们刮目相看羡慕嫉妒,怎么做到这一切呢?儒家认为,“ 书中自有黄金屋,书中自有颜如玉”,要想做人上人,就得“头悬梁锥刺股”拼命读书,只有书读得好,才能出名,才能做官,只有出了名,做了官,才能捞到钱,才能腰缠万贯,“三年清知府十万雪花银”,即使做一个清官, 一年也能捞取到“十万雪花银”,若稍微贪一点,一年所得就不是“十万雪花银”了,到那时,要风得风要雨得雨,要美色有美色,要鬼来给自己推磨就有鬼来推磨,要多风光就有多风光。但这是成功的人生吗?就算是,有多少 人能领略如此风光?千军万马过独木桥,最终过得了桥的有几人?从桥上掉下去被碰得头破血流甚至掉进河里被淹死的有多少?就算都挤过去了,也是人老珠黄腿脚不灵人到中年老年了,快乐的童年被书淹没掉了,美好的少年被 书啃噬掉了,幸福的青年时光在书中打拼掉了,难道这就是成功的人生?我觉得这是人生的悲哀,是人生的失败,奋斗拼搏大半生才换来钱、权、名、利、色而丧失了童年、少年、青年,值吗?更可悲的是,绝大多数的人奋斗了 拼搏了,不要说在中年,就是到了老年依然没有获得理想的钱、权、名、利、色,这不是人生的失败又是什么?

    所以,传统的所谓成功的人生和失败的人生的观念是错误的,必须纠正,否则,人生的悲剧将会继续演下去。

    那么,人生的路怎么走才算是成功的人生?

    童年,一直在欢乐中度过;少年,一直在嬉闹玩耍和兴趣中度过;青年,一直在梦想和理想中度过;中年,一直在勤奋劳作中度过;老年,一直在悠闲颐养中度过;到达人生的终点之时无悔无恨无遗憾能心满意足含笑于九泉,这 样的人生才是理想的人生,才是成功的人生,因为这符合上帝之道。

    能做到这一点吗?

    答案是:毫无疑问!

    路在哪里?

    答:就在生命禅院创建的第二家园里。

    2013/6/20

    Google translate:

    success and failure in life

    Xuefeng


    The wrong outlook on life that has been passed down for thousands of years needs to be rectified.

    Tradition holds that a person who earns a lot of money, becomes a high-ranking official, becomes famous, honors his ancestors, and is envied by the people around him is a successful life. The concept of Lifechanyuan believes that a person's life is healthy, safe, smooth, happy, happy, happy, free, and happy all the time, that is a successful life.

    In the past, we also believed that there must be prerequisites for happiness, freedom and happiness in life, and this prerequisite is mainly to have money, property, and a solid material foundation. The people in the world look at each other with admiration and envy, how do they do all this? Confucianism believes that "the book has its own golden house, and the book has its own Yan Ruyu". Only when you become famous and become an official can you get money and get rich. "One hundred thousand snowflakes in three years." Even if you are a clean official, you can get "one hundred thousand snowflakes in one year." The annual income will no longer be "one hundred thousand snowflakes and silver". At that time, if you want the wind, you will get the rain, if you want beauty, you will have beauty, if you want ghosts to grind the millstones, you will have ghosts to grind the millstones, and if you want more scenery, you will be happy. How beautiful it is. But is this a successful life? Even if it is, how many people can appreciate such a scenery? Thousands of troops cross the single-plank bridge, how many people can finally cross the bridge? How many people fell from the bridge and were beaten to death or even fell into the river and drowned? Even if they are all squeezed through, people are old and weak, and their legs and feet are not working. People are middle-aged and old. The happy childhood is drowned by books, the beautiful youth is eaten by books, and the happy youth is lost in books. Is this true? Is it a successful life? I think this is the tragedy of life, the failure of life. Is it worth it to lose my childhood, youth, and youth in exchange for money, power, fame, fortune, and sex only after working hard for most of my life? What is even more sad is that the vast majority of people have struggled hard, not to mention middle age, but even in old age, they still have not obtained the ideal money, power, fame, fortune, and sex. If this is not a failure in life, what is it?

    Therefore, the traditional concept of a successful life and a failed life is wrong and must be corrected, otherwise, the tragedy of life will continue.

    So, how to walk the road of life is a successful life?

    Childhood has been spent in joy; youth, has been spent in play and interest; youth, has been spent in dreams and ideals; middle age, has been spent in hard work; old age, has been spent in leisure Go through; when you reach the end of your life, you can be satisfied and smile in Jiuquan with no regrets, no regrets, and no regrets. This kind of life is an ideal life and a successful life, because it is in line with God's way.

    Can this be done?

    The answer is: without a doubt!

    Where is the way?

    Answer: It is in the second home created by Lifechanyuan.

    2013/6/20

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    只管创造奉献 不管得失成功
    雪峰


      大道之行,统御微观宏观,宇宙在大道中运行,点滴在大道中运作,“天网恢恢,疏而不漏”,神佛跑不出道的管束,凡人更逃不出道的法则。

      无私才能成其私,无我才能成就我,无私者只管创造奉献,不管得失成功,正是因为无私地创造奉献,道将满足他的一切理想;正是因为无我地不计较不算计自己的付出和利益,道将成就他最美好的心愿。

      宇宙正负能量之和为零,一个人付出的和获得的最终是相等的,只要付出,必然得到;一旦得到,必将付出,这是大道之公正的体现,正因为如此,一个明白道理的人就会只管创造奉献,至于是否得到是否成功,完全交给道 去安排,道去管理,而不考虑自己是否会被亏欠,从而每天开心地喜悦地处在付出和创造之中。

      我们创造出了一个世外桃源,被人抢夺了,不要计较,再重新创造一个世外桃源,这个乐园又被抢夺了,不要计较,继续创造下一个世外桃源,这一个又被抢夺了,不要生气,不要愤怒,不要犹豫,不要怀疑道之公正,高高 兴兴地再重新开始创造下下一个世外桃源,周而复始,继续创造奉献,生命的完善完美就在其中,成就美好理想的途径就在其中。

      圣人无私心,以天下百姓之心为心,仙人无所有,以天道之有为有,一无所有才能拥有一切,一旦有所拥有,将心有牵挂,将生发颠倒梦想之思,将有恐惧,将有烦恼痛苦,将不得正果,所以,不断地创造奉献,而不生发拥 有之心,将无咎,将潇洒,将登临仙岛群岛洲。

      “失之桑榆,收之东隅”,此处失,彼处得,昨日失,明日得,汗水失,食物得,心血失,精神得,人间失,天界得,今生失,来生得,没有白失的,也没有白得的,因此,只管创造奉献,不计较得失成功,此乃有道之人所 行。

      不创造就没有快乐,不奉献就没有幸福,没有创造和奉献,就没有美好未来。付出的很多得到的很少是人生幸事,是远祸之方;得到的很多付出的很少是人生祸事,是远福之途。

      “天有难测风云,人有旦夕祸福”,北极冰盖在消失,黄河源之冰川在急速退缩,热浪一波又一波,灾难一茬接一茬,小变渐渐发,大变瞬间生,谁能保证一觉醒来还会与昨日一样?人生短暂如驹过隙,所得守不住,一朝变 ,滚滚长江东逝水,“三十年河东三十年河西”,所得的一切将成梦幻泡影。

      万般皆游戏,唯有性命真,一切都会失去,一切都将成过眼云烟,唯有镶嵌在意识中的东西才是自己所拥有的,意识中镶嵌了动物特性,将走向下界;意识中镶嵌了仙佛的特性,将走向上界。把财宝积累到意识中将难以失去 ,财宝积累在身外,不仅守不住,还会成为心之累赘,生之包袱。

      过程不好,结果也会不好;过程好,结果也会好。烦恼一辈子,下一辈子将接着烦恼;开心一辈子,来生将接着开心。因此,在开心快乐中创造,在愉悦幸福中奉献,一直保持这种心之快乐过程,毫无疑问,必 将登临仙界。

      道是公正的,道是上帝的意识,道是无形的,道统管一切,把生命交给上帝,把人生交给道管理,我们,只管创造奉献。追赶太阳就能逃脱黑暗,什么也不要计较,什么也不要算计,什么也不要管,只管朝着光明前行,每日 只管尽心尽力创造,只管无私无我地奉献。

      2016-6-12

    Google translate:

    Just create and contribute, don't care about gain or loss

    Xuefeng

    Traveling to the Great Dao controls the microcosm and the macrocosm. The universe runs in the Dao, and every bit of it operates in the Dao.

    Only selflessness can achieve selfishness, and selflessness can achieve me. The selfless person only creates and contributes, regardless of gains and losses. It is precisely because of selfless creation and dedication that Tao will satisfy all his ideals; it is precisely because of selflessness that he does not care about himself With dedication and benefits, Tao will fulfill his best wish.

    The sum of positive and negative energies in the universe is zero. What a person pays and what he gets are ultimately equal. As long as you pay, you will get it; People will only focus on creation and dedication. As for whether they are successful or not, they are completely left to Tao to arrange and manage, regardless of whether they will be owed, so they are happy and joyful in giving and creating every day.

    We have created a paradise, it was robbed by others, don’t worry about it, and create another paradise again, this paradise was robbed again, don’t worry about it, continue to create the next paradise, this one was robbed again, don’t be angry, don’t be angry, Don't hesitate, don't doubt the justice of the Tao, happily start to create the next paradise again, go round and round, continue to create and contribute, the perfection of life lies in it, and the way to achieve a beautiful ideal lies in it.

    The sage is selfless and takes the hearts of the people in the world as his heart. Immortals have nothing and take the existence of the way of heaven to exist. Only by having nothing can they have everything. If there is affliction and pain, there will be no positive fruit. Therefore, if you continue to create and contribute, but do not develop a heart of possession, you will be blameless, you will be chic, and you will land on the Xiandao Islands Continent.

    "The mulberry elm of loss, the eastern corner of harvest", lost here, gained there, lost yesterday, gained tomorrow, lost sweat, gained food, lost blood, gained spirit, lost in the world, gained in heaven, lost in this life, gained in the next life, There is nothing lost in vain, and nothing gained in vain. Therefore, just create and contribute, and don't care about gains and losses. This is what people with the right way do.

    Without creation, there will be no happiness, without dedication, there will be no happiness, and without creation and dedication, there will be no bright future. Giving a lot and getting little is a blessing in life, which is the way of far disaster; getting a lot and giving little is a disaster of life, which is the way of far blessing.

    "The sky is unpredictable, and people have misfortunes and blessings." The Arctic ice cap is disappearing, the glaciers at the source of the Yellow River are retreating rapidly, heat waves come and go, disasters come and go, small changes happen gradually, and big changes happen instantly. Life, who can guarantee that when you wake up, it will be the same as yesterday? Life is as short as a horse, and the gains cannot be kept. Once they change, the Yangtze River flows eastward, "Thirty years in the east and thirty years in the west of the river", everything you get will become a dream.

    Everything is a game, only life is true, everything will be lost, everything will become a passing cloud, only the things embedded in the consciousness are what you own, the animal characteristics are embedded in the consciousness, and it will go to the lower world; the immortal Buddha is embedded in the consciousness characteristics, will go to the upper bound. It will be difficult to lose the treasures accumulated in the consciousness. The treasures accumulated outside the body will not only be impossible to keep, but will also become a burden on the heart and a burden on life.

    If the process is not good, the result will be bad; if the process is good, the result will be good. If you are troubled for a lifetime, you will be troubled in the next life; if you are happy for a lifetime, you will be happy in the next life. Therefore, creating in happiness, dedicating in joy and happiness, and maintaining this happy process of heart will undoubtedly lead to the fairyland.

    Tao is just, Tao is the consciousness of God, Tao is invisible, Tao governs everything, entrust life to God, and entrust life to Tao to manage, we just create and contribute. You can escape the darkness by chasing the sun, don’t care about anything, don’t calculate anything, don’t care about anything, just move towards the light, just do your best to create every day, and just give selflessly.

    2016-6-12


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    促人奋进是魔鬼的伎俩

    Pushing People to Forge Ahead is Doing the Devil’s Trick

    Xuefeng

    December 26, 2018

    (Translated by Qinyou and Edited by Kaer)



      每个人是什么样的人,每个人一生会享多少福受多少罪都是定数,每个人会有什么样的成就都是一种必然,每个人与谁有缘相遇恩爱,与谁有缘相遇相互折磨,都是人生轨迹所定,每个人想成为歌唱家、政治家、科学家、艺 术家、大官、富翁、盗贼、乞丐等等早已被剧本选定,不是什么人想怎样就可以怎样的,同理,什么人能成仙成佛,什么人能成妖成魔,什么人上天堂,什么人下地狱,早已被选定,每个人什么时候生病,生什么样的病,什么时 候生什么时候死怎么死也早已在生命的程序中确定,一个人一生能过上什么样的生活,是否贫穷是否富裕早已注定,谁也跑不出宇宙剧本情节的安排。


    The kind of individual that each person is and how many blessings and sins they will enjoy throughout their lifetime is a definite number. What kind of achievements each person will rise to is a certainty, whom each person is destined to meet and fall in love with and who they will encounter and torture are all part of their life’s trajectory. Whether you want to be a singer, a politician, a scientist, an artist, a high-ranking official, have lots of wealth, a thief, a beggar, or whatever else, has already been written into the script; you cannot just be whoever you want to be. Similarly, who can become a Celestial being or Buddha, who can become a monster or demon, who will fly to heaven, and who will fall to hell have long been decided. When a person gets sick, what kind of diseases they will have,when they will be born, and when and how they will die have all been determined in the process of LIFE. What kind of life a person can live and whether they are rich or poor have also been determined and no one can escape the arrangement of the cosmic script.



      一棵大白菜,给它施肥、浇水、养护,它会长得很饱满很肥大,但无论如何白菜成不了莴笋。一只羊,给它多喂青草并加粮食料,它会长得很肥,但它绝对成不了牛。不用费心长颈鹿的脖子,它自然会长(zhang)长( chang)的,不用费心告知狮子如何逮住斑马,它自己会努力的,不用费心教导老鼠如何挖洞,它们天生就会。


    If you fertilize, water, and maintain a Chinese cabbage, it will grow very plump and fat, but in no case can it become lettuce. Feed a sheep more grass and grain and it will grow fat, but it will never become a cow. Do not bother with a giraffe’s neck, it will grow long naturally; do not tell lions how to catch zebras, they will figure it out; do not teach mice how to dig holes, they are born to dig them.



      促人奋进,鼓励人有所成就,教人如何成为成功人士,砥砺人如何当官如何发财,唆使人如何光宗耀祖活成人上人等等,等等都属于让一只母鸡也学会打鸣,让一头公牛产奶,不仅是无用功,更是一种逼良为娼的作为,其深 刻的含义是:“快去死吧!努力死吧!你看坟墓不远了,快跑向坟墓吧!”所以,促人奋进是魔鬼的伎俩。


    Prompting people to forge ahead, encouraging them to achieve things, teaching them how to become successful, grooming them to become officials and make fortunes, instigating them to glorify and illuminate their ancestors, to be outstanding, and so forth are all like teaching hens how to crow or asking bulls to produce milk. Not only is it useless, but it is also the same as compelling a woman to engage in prostitution. Its profound meaning is: “Go to your death! Work hard to die! Look, the grave is not far away, run to it quickly!”. So, promoting people to forge ahead is a devil's trick.



      据《苹果日报》报道,过去五年来,已有260多名官员和企业高层人士以坠楼、开枪、割腕、溺水、悬梁、跳楼、卧轨等方式结束生命。

      这260多位可都是成功者,都是人中的佼佼者,但结果呢?如果让他们重新选择人生之路,他们还会如此努力争取成为成功人士吗?我们可否觉得他们过去的奋进拼搏实际上就是在努力找死呢?


    According to Apple Daily, more than two hundred-sixty officials and corporate executives over the last five years have taken their lives by shooting themselves, cutting their wrists, drowning themselves, hanging from beams, jumping off buildings, and lying on rails. All these people were successful and outstanding, but what were their results? Had they been allowed to choose their path again, would they still work so hard to become so successful? Can we see how their past hard work was actually leading them to their deaths?



      你以为官当的越大越幸福自由吗?你以为钱挣的越多会越自由幸福吗?你以为当了董事长成为总裁开心快乐就多了吗?你以为结交的有头有脸有本事的人们越多人生会越加美好圆满吗?

      错!拥有的越多,烦恼和痛苦会越多。


    Do you think that the higher an official’s rank, the happier and freer they will be? Do you think that the more money they earn, the more freedom and happiness they will enjoy? Do you think that becoming the chairman of a board or a president is joyful? Do you think that the more powerful and capable people you associate with, you will have a better and more satisfactory life? Wrong! The more you possess, the more troubles and pains you will have.



      我曾有一问:赤脚的人幸福,还是穿着高级皮鞋的人幸福?再问:光屁股玩泥巴的孩子开心快乐多,还是“头悬梁锥刺股”穿着时髦能登台演奏钢琴的孩子开心快乐多?


    Barefoot people and those who wear high class leather shoes, who are happier? Children with bare butts playing in the mud and those who practice hard, dress in fashionable clothes, and play pianos on stages, who are happier?



      我曾经在非洲津巴布韦最落后的宾卡地区住了一段时间,那里大多数孩子不穿鞋子,晚上,在月光下,在数十座简陋茅草屋的中央,生着一堆篝火,有位年轻人敲鼓,孩子们围着篝火跳着闹着,几条瘦狗追着叫着,那一刻, 我明白了什么叫开心快乐。我曾经在太平洋岛国瓦努阿图的一个原始部落住了一段时间,大白天,许多人在简陋四面漏风的屋子里坐着或躺着在聊天,或者在室外院落的树荫下坐着或躺着喝茶,他们一年中有一大半时间就这么生 活着,谁能说他们活得不幸福?

    I used to live in Binka, the most backward area of Zimbabwe, Africa, where most children do not wear shoes. Under the moonlight at night, in the middle of dozens of simple thatched huts, there were bonfires with young people beating drums, the children were jumping and laughing around those bonfires, and a few thin dogs were running around and barking. At that moment, I understood what happiness meant. I lived with a primitive tribe in the Pacific island nation of Vanuatu. During the day, many people would sit or lie down chatting in shabby houses with air leaks on all sides or sit or lie down drinking tea in the shade of the outdoor courtyard. They live like this for more than half of each year and who can say that they are not happy?



      说有一个富翁,来到海边度假胜地享福,他看到一个渔夫每天在海边只捕捞很少的鱼后就在船头躺着晒太阳,富翁觉得这样浪费了大好时光,于是“大发善心”就去教导渔夫成功之道,告诉渔夫每天应当抓紧时间多打鱼,多 卖鱼,然后有钱了就可以组成渔业队捕捞更多的鱼,然后可以办一个鱼加工厂,如此这般,十几年后就可以成为大富翁成为成功人士,渔夫问:“我成了富翁后去做什么?”富翁答:“你有钱后就可以像我一样来海边度假享受。 ”渔夫又问:“你认为我现在在干吗?”


    It is said that a wealthy person once came to relax in a seaside resort. They saw a fisherman lying on the bow of his boat every day enjoying the sunlight after having caught only a few fish. The wealthy vacationer felt that this was a waste of good time, so they “showed kindness” and went to teach the fisherman how to succeed. They told the fisherman that he should hurry up every day to catch and sell more fish, and then if he got enough money, he could form a fishing team to catch even more fish and then he could set up a fish processing factory. In this way, in a few years, the fisherman could become wealthy and successful. The fisherman asked, “what would I do if I become wealthy?” The rich one replied, “when you have money, you can come to the beach to enjoy your vacation like me”. The fisherman asked again: “What do you think I am doing now?”.



      干嘛要奋进?干嘛要精进?干嘛要努力拼搏?干嘛要成为成功者?顺应自然活着不是很好吗?人生也就百十来年的光阴,童年时光屁股玩泥巴,少年时追逐玩耍,青年时上学,壮年时谈恋爱做工,老年时喝茶聊天,暮年时看 花开花落,难道不好吗?


    Why do you want to forge ahead? Why do you want to be diligent? Why do you have to work hard? Why do you want to be a winner? Is it not good enough to just live in compliance with nature? Life only lasts for a hundred years, if that; playing in the mud in childhood, chasing members of the opposite sex and playing around in your early youth, going to school when you are young, falling in love and working in your prime, drinking tea and chatting when you are old, and watching flowers bloom and fade in your old age, is this not a good life?



      是老鼠一定会挖洞,是猫一定会逮老鼠,是秧苗一定会努力生长,是果树一定会结果子。人呢?不用教唆鼓励,他自然会沿着自己生命的轨迹前行,爱学习的,不用催促,他一定会乐在学习中,爱工作的,他一定会钻研技术 努力做工的,该当老板的,不用教唆,他肯定会不安于当打工仔的,想偷盗抢劫的,你灌输道德伦理没用,想成为圣人的,人家自会去研读圣人哲学去禅悟宇宙真理的,你想把圣人拉下水根本是枉费心机,成为仙佛的,自会去寻 找仙佛之境,挡都挡不住。


    Mice dig holes, cats catch mice, seedlings strive to grow, and fruit trees bear fruit, but what about people? Without instigation and encouragement, they will naturally follow their lives’ paths. If someone loves to learn, there is no need to urge them on because they will definitely learn, if they love to work, then they will definitely study technology and work hard, but if they deserve to be a boss, without instigation, they would definitely be uneasy working as an employee. If they would like to steal or rob, it would be useless for you attempt to instill morality and ethics into them. If they want to be a saint, they will study the philosophy of saints and understand the truth of the universe. It is a waste of effort for you to attempt to bring a saint into the world. If they want to become a Celestial being or Buddha, they will naturally look for the environment conducive to that end and nothing can stop them.



      二十多年前,我读了拿破仑希尔的《成功学全书》,野心大发,想多弄钱,结果上当受骗,一下子被骗走四十多万,从此,我恨透了《成功学》,二十多年来,我一直在研究,终于发现,促人奋进是魔鬼的伎俩 。


    Twenty years ago, I read Napoleon Hill’s “The Complete Book of Success”. I became very ambitious and wanted to earn more money. As a result, I was deceived and defrauded out of more than four hundred-thousand RMB Yuan. From then on, I have hated “Success”; for more than twenty years, I have been studying, and finally found that promoting people to forge ahead is the devil’s trick.



      或许有人会问:“你雪峰日日夜夜写文章创建生命禅院和家园,不就是在努力拼搏吗?”我的回答是:“我乐在其中,这一切根本就没有人催促,我愿意这样。”但若有人来催促我努力奋进,我会说:“去你姑奶奶的教唆犯 !母鸡肚子里没蛋,能下蛋吗?母鸡肚子里有蛋,能不下蛋吗?”

    Someone might ask: “You, Xuefeng write articles day and night to create Lifechanyuan and Chanyuan homes, are you not working hard?” My answer is that I love it; no one urges me to do it. I would like to be like this, but if someone urges me to work hard, I will tell them to, “Go to hell, you abettor!”. Can a hen lay eggs if she has none in her belly? If she has eggs in her belly, can she not lay them?

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    成功是一个陷阱

    雪峰

    我是从千年界来的,千年界没有一个成功者,当然也没有一个失败者,都是自始至终生命的享受者。在千年界,根本没有成功和失败这样的词汇和概念。

    天堂里从来没有什么成功之说,一切都是自然展开自然收拢的。

    在植物界和动物界,也没有成功之说,唯有在人间有成功和失败之说。

    把人生搞砸的,大都是追求成功的人士。去统计分析归纳一下,监狱里关着的,大都是追求成功的人士。苦海无边,到苦海里看看,都是想成功的生命。

    于是,我得出一个结论:成功是一个陷阱。

    这个陷阱是谁发明的?

    答案是:魔鬼。

    我的这个结论是否正确?

    大家仔细地观察人类社会,凡促使人们努力成功的都是些什么人?凡立志要成功的人们的结局如何?凡把人生和生活搞得一团糟的人是不是大都是想成功的人?

    什么是成功?

    石火光中竞长短,蜗牛角上论雌雄,成功了吗?

    秦始皇成功了吗?

    “狐眠败砌,兔走荒台,尽是当年歌舞地;露冷黄花,烟迷衰草,悉数旧时争战场”。谁成功了?

    赚了不少钱,却从来没时间欣赏月色,请问成功了吗?那叫成功吗?

    我看不到一个成功者,只看到被成功碾压得面目全非灵魂破碎的生命。

    2021-03-24


    Google translate:

    Success is a trap

    Xuefeng

    I come from the millennium world. There is no winner in the millennium world, and of course there is no loser. They are all enjoyers of life from beginning to end. In the millennium world, there are no such words and concepts as success and failure.

    There is no such thing as success in heaven, everything unfolds and gathers naturally.

    In the plant kingdom and animal kingdom, there is no theory of success, only in the human world there are stories of success and failure.

    Most of the people who screw up their lives are those who pursue success. Going to statistical analysis and summarizing, most of the people locked up in prisons are people who pursue success. The sea of suffering is boundless, and if you look in the sea of suffering, you will find life that wants to succeed.

    So, I came to a conclusion: success is a trap.

    Who invented this trap?

    The answer is: the devil.

    Is my conclusion correct?

    Everyone carefully observes human society. Who are the people who motivate people to strive for success? What is the end of those who aspire to be successful? Aren't most people who make a mess of their life and life are people who want to succeed?

    What is success?

    Shi Huoguang competes for length, and the snail's horn discusses male and female. Has it succeeded?

    Did Qin Shihuang succeed?

    "The fox sleeps and the ruins, the rabbit walks on the barren platform, it is all the singing and dancing places of the past; the dew cold yellow flowers, the smoke and the decaying grass, all the old battlefields." Who made it?

    I made a lot of money, but never had time to appreciate the moonlight. Is it successful? Is that called success?

    I can't see a successful person, I only see a life that has been crushed beyond recognition by success.

    2021-03-24

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    Mother Earth is the school for us to sow the seeds of Love.





    Here we stand together
    One in all humanity
    For we are sister and brother
    We are one family

    It's our school of love and peace
    Where we've learned there's a way
    For the world to live in harmony
    And together we all say

    This is where peace begins
    Here we sow the seeds of love
    It all starts with our knowing
    We are one family
    We are one family under God

    Marilah kita bersama
    Bersatu dan berharmoni
    Hidup aman sejahtera
    Di bumi tuhan ini

    Berbeza bangsa dan agama
    Namun kita bersaudara
    Dunia ini milik bersama
    Biar aman selamanya

    This is where peace begins
    Here we sow the seeds of love
    It all starts with our knowing
    We are one family
    We are one family under God
    Under God
    We are one
    This is where peace begins
    Here we sow the seeds of love
    It all starts with our knowing
    We are one family
    We are one family under God
    This is where peace begins
    Here we sow the seeds of love
    It all starts with our knowing
    We are one family
    We are one family under God
    We are one family
    We are one family under God
    We are one family
    We are one family under God

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    Hi Doug. Seems like you are fighting some personal doubts, in the course of building — continuing to build — your theory of life. I wish you well, and I hope that you can step back from overthinking things.

    Your friend Sandi’s words don’t sound true to me. They are used kind of circularly, to impose a predetermined limited understanding of what’s up.

    Quote ... The Great Intelligence (god) is a paradox. It is completely loving and fully unlimited. Which by the definition of paradox, means it is impossible? It cannot be limited only to love; it cannot be limited to only being unlimited; or it is not unlimited. ...
    I don’t claim to know much about Big Life, but I think I know some basic important truths. One of them is, follow your own heart. Another one is, forgiveness will be granted if we recognize and change our ways, and ask for forgiveness. Might take a while, depends on Life.

    Beyond dealing with our own selves, fixing what is reflected to us daily, we are not responsible for paths that other brothers or sisters may take. And I am very sure that we don’t have to know much more than that, about the Big All.

    Thought this discussion might use a Mashika-style pseudo-question: “Do memory-foam mattresses wish that they could forget?”. ~8D

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    Some very introspective musings there Doug! I agree with you largely, the universe lives through our existence, we are the universe, we not only have the right to be here, we are the direct result of the universe being here!
    True, there is no ultimate competition, each journey is uniquely lived and thus is completed on its own terms!

    I am a mere youngster of 64, but I appreciate your philosophical prowess here, good on you mate, all the best: Mike

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    Thank for the OP Doug.

    Life is the chance to experience the material realm, in all it's ways, good and bad.

    You can only progress and learn here in life, which eventually makes us ready for the non-physical existence's

    Trick is not to be the material aspect of being here
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Default Re: It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

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    my post just my expression and opinion. not to convince anyone. doubts? well who doesnt have doubts?

    and sandi is beyond awesome. she just published a compelling new book. ill find and post link

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    Default Re: It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I have come to the spot in my life where I believe that we are here only to experience.

    So we cant fail.

    So whatever it is that you're doing that is your mission here is a success.
    Success needs failure , love needs hate, kindness needs killing in order to separate, in order to understand hot from cold big from small.
    This is why we are contradictory beings.

    This is very hard to understand. We believe in a measuring stick of good and bad, regarding reward for our goodness and punishment for our bad.
    Good gets the bone, bad, punished. But what is good and bad?

    Heaven and hell are here. God implores us to be good and follow his word for our lives here, not in heaven
    Heaven is freedom for all, and all returning home. No exception

    the parables relate to life here. it would be easier to have a camel pass through the eye of a needle... then a rich man to enter the kingdom.
    yeah, money roots you into this 3 d temporary world where all will be lost. so managing that and holding on to it is suffering. Holding on to all here is suffering.

    same with identity.. Im a this or a that etc. wow! well are you successful? well what do you mean?
    I mean do you sell it? do you make money ? are you a winner etc ?

    thats our barometer. our ego entraps us in the game, and then we suffer and struggle with judgement, self hate and suffering.
    Thats hell.
    Heaven and hell are here.
    Welcome to enlightenment.

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    Doug, thank you for this response. I see that my post was inappropriate, and somewhat rude. I will try to be better, going forward, in all my posts.

    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
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    my post just my expression and opinion. not to convince anyone. doubts? well who doesnt have doubts?

    and sandi is beyond awesome. she just published a compelling new book. ill find and post link

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    Johnny C L. you were fine. No offense, if you were honest, what more can i ask for. Everything is a work in progress

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    Default Re: It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

    This is indeed an experience and we have a saying: "You can't learn to swim by standing on the shore", but still we can fail in this journey when wrong choices are made. In whatever circumstances we are in, our choices will determine our future. So we are not here as a neutral observer, even if sometimes it's needed to be that way, but we are here to make conscious choices, that will determine our next path. The evil choices made consciously are the worst choices a human can make and will have it's consequences, but justice works differently in this infinite creation, it doesn't comes instantly most of the time, but surely it will come. Some call it karma, but I prefer to call it divine justice.

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    Quote Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
    This is indeed an experience and we have a saying: "You can't learn to swim by standing on the shore", but still we can fail in this journey when wrong choices are made. In whatever circumstances we are in, our choices will determine our future. So we are not here as a neutral observer, even if sometimes it's needed to be that way, but we are here to make conscious choices, that will determine our next path. The evil choices made consciously are the worst choices a human can make and will have it's consequences, but justice works differently in this infinite creation, it doesn't comes instantly most of the time, but surely it will come. Some call it karma, but I prefer to call it divine justice.
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    This is really interesting Doug.

    About 3 or 4 weeks ago I was having a really interesting dialogue with a friend of mine around the concept of 'failure'. After seeing you post this thread I saw your explanation and it was pretty darned near smack bang on the money.

    The short version of events is that there isn't any such thing as failure but there may be a sense of something not yet accomplished or experienced - a feeling of incompleteness perhaps. You agree to reincarnate here to experience what you must, with whom you must, as often as you must, for as long as you must; it is (indeed) impossible to 'fail' - the concept is redundant. Outcomes may not always equal expectation because they are meant to; sometimes they may exceed expectation, because they are meant to. This doesn't preclude making a choice, a decision - the act of being actively encourages that - or preventing someone taking a shot and aiming as high as they can go; that should always be encouraged. Wisdom over time focuses a person's energy on what it is that they may best accomplish with the talents they have, and an understanding of what the outcomes actually may mean. And on many occasions those outcomes and experiences will be replete with deep meaning.

    I spent over 25 years making music in a band that I formed with a friend where we harboured dreams of making it a livelihood and full time paying occupation. That didn't happen, but that wasn't failure.

    It was an enriching fully empowering and deeply rewarding experience
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    Tintin. We could discuss this for hours. I am always present to the idea that there is nothing to do. Success and failure are constructions in a sense.
    example, i am a very industrious bizzy bee in my creative life, always creating striving, making, trying etc. For what?

    On the flipside, my brother gave up all such aspirations, and presently sits and watches TV, shows, movies whatever from literally morning to night. its all he feels like doing. he has removed himself from the game.
    Is he wasting his time? Who's to say? Am I wasting my time? perhaps? Can you even waste time? Is there such a thing?

    Your music, my art and music etc is the residue of our particular experience, like the trail a snail leaves behind. Why does any of it matter? Whittling a stick is experiencing as well
    i guess you cant help BUT experience. its a diary of consciousness I suppose. Even sleeping is experience.

    we collectively assign meaning to it all. we want to know we're real, and we count , mostly to others, because most of us don't know what we are unless by being defined by others. am I good looking? is my art good? meaning do I make the grade compared to others?

    my friend Kelly Sammy after her attempted suicide and NDE recount told me, doug, just" breath and don't resist, breath and don't resist."

    to be continued...
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    I have often thought that most (certainly not all) people want to feel as though their life has exceptional meaning and that they want to make an impact on the world. I think that sensitivity is built into our DNA not quite as strongly as survival or reproduction but it is certainly within us. That is one of the reasons why failure (whatever one's definition is) feels dreadful or unacceptable to most people. That is also why it is so easy to get people to take on big world-changing issues, such as climate change, abortion, racial injustice, or any number of social justice concerns.

    These social justice warriors feel a sense of pride, accomplishment, and unspoken superiority. The key word in the last sentence is warrior, I would go as far as to say it is the fight the struggle, and the conflict which makes their efforts rewarding. This need to feel significant is precisely why the world feels so upside down. Many people climb on the social justice bandwagon for all the wrong reasons, it feeds their ego and their sense of feeling self-important, and many do it simply for appearance or to virtue signal. Ultimately this lunacy will pass and the world will return to order. The system may not return in a way to everyone's liking but it will no less be a structure that everyone can live within.

    As miscellaneous or unimportant as this may sound we should all be focused on the struggle between good and evil in everything thing we do and with every breath we take. For the vast majority of people (but not all), we can absolutely make a difference in how we treat each other every minute of every day. This is how we can collectively change and impact our world for the better. It is the easiest, fastest, and most simple way to solve big issues in our world but yet the most difficult to understand.

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    Default Re: It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

    The unconditional joy painted in the opening post is a win for the day

    My own beliefs are slightly different to that, but the spirit of your words Doug are awesome.

    There's something you wrote that I'll never forget: paraphrasing from memory: "Sometimes people walk round with expressions like they're pre-offended.". That changed my life.

    And while my own belief system is slightly incompatible with the sentiment in the OP, because my dogma has a demand on accurate judging (but not condemnation), my own dogma would have me be more light hearted which I struggle with. But I think you're onto something here

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    Default Re: It's experiencing we are here for. You cannot fail !

    rgray222/ well said and thanks. justice warriors! we do things, we start challenges, and often we forget why we even did it, why we even started it.

    example/ well im in this deep, cant abandon it now kinda stuff. a friend of mine told me she thinks people like covid. that in their otherwise mundane daily life, they can be a warrior for something, even if that thing is false. they can go on their mission of STOP COVID! and walk around spotting the enemy.
    I see that in the paranormal ufo community as well. The only activities free of some of this are sports which have measurable stats. You can actually win a game, although it only guarantees that you won, not necessarily happiness, love or anything else.
    Your comment about good and evil is the answer for me. We can proceed everyday, not matter what we do, choosing to bring more light into others, or more darkness. Good or evil. And we do have that choice

    Matthew. thanks! yes my comment was about the people in my little make believe town. They stroll around in a" pre offended "state, just waiting to go off! lol . Hey I was about to enter the crosswalk here!!! lol
    yet we are all one family, the human race, all with a finite time to be here and act out our parts.

    Im fine with have little to nothing , and to be happy. But I dont want to have it forced on me, I want to choose it with free will as something earned by living and experiencing . Sorry Klauss!
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