Your next incarnation

[Michi]

Inspired from Bill's recent post and Wegge's nudge I would like to make the beginning of an apparent never discussed subject: What do I do, after I discard the body?

Many "in the know" have written books or articles about what happens to the being or soul, when it leaves the body. To mention a few:

• Michael Newton
• William Buhlman
• Wayne Bush
• Cameron Day
• Wes Penre
• Jürgen Ziewe
• TrumanCash

and last mention is L.Ron Hubbard to some extent - but more through the help of others.The free remainder of his works are ethically pursued by Rons Org.

Other endeavors in that direction are made by https://nderf.org/ and https://farsight.org/

Based on my studies in the above, I have come to the following insights:

A being has become in the course of his countless past reincarnations and adventures and wars and traps quite batten down and ignorant of his capabilities and subsequently chooses on and on the same games he either won or lost.

It takes then quite some determination of the being (soul) to say: "That's it - I had enough." and pull him self together (also literally - re-unite with his splits) and go on a journey to recuperate.

I see this earth still mainly as a circus arena to serve some other species game, (like SIMS) where EVERY life form survives only by feeding on other life forms. And our earth is carefully kept in balance in order to keep the show going.

Thus (drum roll) my future journey is to educate myself further without a meat body in order to make better choices and don't touch enchanting earths not even with a million yard pole stick.

My ideal environment would be a community of free beings on the journey of new adventures, keeping a backup when things go south.

What's your journey?

[wondering]

Hi Michi, Good post. I am not sure about much that happens after death, but I do believe, true or not, that we can choose to do many different things. What appeals to me the most is to continue learning, learning, learning. I don't know at what point I might choose to do that in celestial, inter dimensional or other venues (lol) but I do hope that I don't automatically return here. I think we are at the threshold of learning so much about who we are and what Earth really is, particularly the ways in which we have been deceived amd deprived of our power. I think we are enormously powerful beings and if we can really "get" that, future choices (or concurrent lifetime choices) will be made from a very different understanding. My hope is that I will live long enough to really take in these truths and thereby make much better, broader, wiser choices.

[ian33]

my unfulfilled desire(which is what i believe brings us back, if at all) is to reconnect with my potential for healing...to be of use, the path of selfless service..
i believe in recall, so things i have learned can return, given the circumstances are receptive to what i may have to offer in some future time..

[avid]

My dearest wish is to return to source, not to reincarnate ever again, to learn from the source, and help from afar.
Nothing could be worse for me than to reincarnate in this horrendous world, only to be murdered again by evil entities.

[Heart to heart]

Always an interesting topic and I guess I am nearer than most to finding out.
My life has been spent searching for answers to questions most people never ask and when I was ready the master always appeared.
Not for me a search among gurus or attending expensive seminars and workshops.
Those amazing psychic friends turned up at just the right time when new knowledge that resonated with my soul’s purpose was to be given to me.
They came from other lives and other times, even other planetary systems, to give information that needed sharing to change the consciousness of humanity that we might no longer be children of Earth but Citizens of the Universe
It is time to put aside our childish toys of aggression, hate and destruction and move into the consciousness of Love.
This is the way we escape the wretched wheel of Karma to become Universal Beings where we can become true co-creators on our Divine trajectory towards the Godhead.
I look forward to the exciting adventures ahead of me when I will no longer be burdened with a heavy physical form but take on the Etheric body to dwell in realms I have yet to imagine.
Years ago I remember being given the information that the Aquarian Age would be more important for the Etheric body rather than the physical.
So I leave you with these thoughts as we head towards Christmas when so many seem to choose to go “home”
Be happy in the knowledge that there is NO DEATH, just another adventure 🌈 over the Rainbow Bridge!

[JackMcThorn]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
...and I'm already starting to plan out my next lifetime, whenever it may have an opportunity to begin. (Yes, I am, not a joke.) That alone might make a fascinating new thread, and I've never heard or read anyone, anywhere, talking about this.

This is a really heavy set of thoughts on my mind as I am still figuring this one [life] out at present. So many things have seemed to gone wrong; but I have no regrets. I wouldn't change anything, and this really gives me some peace of mind.

Thinking of 'planning' the next one disturbs my peacefulness; so I think I am not ready to delve into that just yet.

[Craig]

Posted by avid (here)
My dearest wish is to return to source, not to reincarnate ever again, to learn from the source, and help from afar.
Nothing could be worse for me than to reincarnate in this horrendous world, only to be murdered again by evil entities.

Amen indeed

[Open Minded Dude]

I don't know what it will be.

Robert Monroe (who is like Buhlman as mentioned by the OP a famous out-of-body explorer) said that the Higher Self (which he called either I-There or Total Self) has a (literal quote) 'different overview'.

And there's the rub.

It seems to me that the 'Total' self is still 'something' different then the 'you' we all are now as incarnated 'avatars' of the Higher Self. There is an overall perspective of many lives lived and lessons to be learnt in the great picture. It's a completely different framework and mode of existence.

So I don't know what will be 'in store' or 'planned' for 'me'. I think no one does really.

We / I could express wishes (e.g. one would be for me to never incarnate on this sh'tty planet again) but to what avail if I cannot directly influence it? I might influence it indirectly by learning all my lessons and leading a good life and then there will be no 'need' to come back. Btw, I do not believe in 'Karma' as an obligation, just as a kind of 'workload' (another Monroe term) the Higher Self / Oversoul might have or decide on and maybe after a 'good life' enough of the 'work' will be done. But who knows.

[Michi]

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
I don't know what it will be.

Robert Monroe (who is like Buhlman as mentioned by the OP a famous out-of-body explorer) said that the Higher Self (which he called either I-There or Total Self) has a (literal quote) 'different overview'.

And there's the rub.

It seems to me that the 'Total' self is still 'something' different then the 'you' we all are now as incarnated 'avatars' of the Higher Self. There is an overall perspective of many lives lived and lessons to be learnt in the great picture. It's a completely different framework and mode of existence.

So I don't know what will be 'in store' or 'planned' for 'me'. I think no one does really.

We / I could express wishes (e.g. one would be for me to never incarnate on this sh'tty planet again) but to what avail if I cannot directly influence it? I might influence it indirectly by learning all my lessons and leading a good life and then there will be no 'need' to come back. Btw, I do not believe in 'Karma' as an obligation, just as a kind of 'workload' (another Monroe term) the Higher Self / Oversoul might have or decide on and maybe after a 'good life' enough of the 'work' will be done. But who knows.

Yes, I forgot Robert Monroe in my list.
The "higher self" is an interesting concept and at first it looks "logical" but if you discern it - doesn't it look like a "other source" - outside yourself - similar like god?

In the book "SuperScio" Ken Ogger (The Pilot) wrote about a so-called "splitter implant" that divides you into a "Higher Self" and: "The higher self viewpoints are quite busy but not self aware."
Thus, I take this "Higher Self" with a grain of salt.

By the way, I recently came across another work on the subject, being quite recent from Howdie Mickoski "Exit the cave - Ending the reincarnation trap"

Here is a recent interview with him:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JCJkz5hh2do

[Vicus]

An idiom say that when you are on your right path, synchronicity happens...

Something like 2 years I'm ruminating how to exit the Matrix and don't fall again in the reincarnation trap.
Early in life firsts sparks came from Castaneda, then more powerful therefore intriguing until today from Gurdjief, (food for the Moon)
and his fat book where as grandparent Entertains his grandson with the "history" of mankind while travelling space...in his time! go figure that!
Gurdjief self tell us he must pack information as "science-fiction" the only way to make some digest of it...

That was the first time I read that we are "food" for some entities...the horror never gone...

10 years ago began to crawl info about not follow "false light" typical scenarios from NDE, OBE, etc.

A podcast I follow all this years because a rich number of interesting people from different school of Thoughts:

https://www.youtube.com/c/aeonbytegnosticradio I found and buy the book from Freddy Silva

https://grahamhancock.com/author/freddysilva/

The Lost Art of Resurrection: Initiation, secret chambers and the quest for the Otherworld. (English Edition)

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/produc...t_bibl_vppi_i4

Then 1 month ago came this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pob2YeeLHEU

Where the talk is about that the Zodiac from Babylonians (sidereal astrology) is the Matrix code...

And 2 weeks ago that video with Howdie Mickoski "Exit the Cave"...

After that video I began to "what if beginning a Thread until the motto "how to exit the Matrix"...
I wanted to buy his book and then...came the futbol world Cup...well I still live plug in...

Then I saw this Thread ...ok, to late for me... but today I see that video from Mickoski posted and Bang! synchronicity hit me again!

My first intention was to make like a post series... now is all here compress.

Advice: watching the guest videos with different hosts, became a bigger perspective...

[Merkaba360]

If we are reincarnating back on earth soon after our death date, I think we can get an idea of a plan for our next life based on desires. But hard to know the larger plan of the higher self. What is left on the list of needs to get accomplished in the "3rd" dimension? Probably will want to check off a few of those things next life, especially the ones that are most fitting to that era. Different possibilities in the year 1900 vs 2000 vs 2100 etc.

A very powerful seer told me that he was sure I had a past life in the asian country I currently live. I basically knew that with all the occurrences that pulled me to travel and then live here this life. Me and others got readings from him many times. He was 95% accurate on the present and past, 5% was unclear, and was never clearly wrong. PRobably about 70% accurate on the future, more so on the near future. A lot of data to verify his skill. He could see what you were doing over the phone for example.

Anyway, He told me that I should buy some land shaped like a money bag with mango trees lined down one side, next to a busy road. He said, or maybe you did just recently buy it. As I can't really own land here outright (he knew that), he still advised me to buy with my gf (which I did a few weeks before the reading).

This was the second reading i did with him, but that vision of the land made it clear to him I lived here in a past life, because he said that it was MY land in the past life. And buying it (sort of) would bring me good luck, for some reason. Really wish I knew why such a thing would be auspicious, strange. He also was aware of my difficult childhood in USA and said that I needed to go thru that for some sort of karma which makes total sense to me.

In other words, before this life, I think I had made the following plan. I wanted to live in Asia, but with the benefits of being American, giving me certain freedoms and not being bound to a tight family structure. So, I worked thru some childhood karma in a small family which broke apart and gave me the desire to flee, leading me out East. Gave me the freedom to be a seeker without the family obligations of asian families.

Given the region of my past life, I likely was a rural farmer or tradesmen (likely poor) with medium to dark skin (not desirable here). Being American living in Asia gave me benefits of a better education, more opportunity, exotic looking, tall (have maybe half viking DNA), fair skin, native english speaker, etc.

In other words, decades ago, there werent a lot of asian bodies in this country with as many advantages as stated above. A good plan to experience some karma early and then enjoy middle age more with advantages in the country I wanted to live in.

[Merkaba360]

Posted by avid (here)
My dearest wish is to return to source, not to reincarnate ever again, to learn from the source, and help from afar.
Nothing could be worse for me than to reincarnate in this horrendous world, only to be murdered again by evil entities.

Not sure we have a choice in the long run. In the short term, perhaps we can go to source to heal or whatever. Similar to how we can have temporary trips to high places with DMT or Astral or during sleep. Its seems we have to do all the work to become a complete being. As Don Juan put it, we need to light up every part within our coccoon (torus/merkaba/apple/egg) to achieve wholeness/completeness. Like accomplish it thru struggles as an individuated self, rather than the easy temporary ways.

As Ive mentioned before, I think MAttias DeStefano is the real deal. He says, we cant graduate the 3rd dimension (not a place but a perspective with a specific degree of freedom) and reach the 4th dimension until we completely love the 3rd dimension. That is a kind of enlightenment by experiencing the physical as pure light/love energy - seeing thru the physical illusion I guess we could say.

He also mentioned that we need to get to the 9th dimension (totality) to get to the 1st dimension (unity/singularity). To me that is because they are different views of the same thing. Infinity = Everything = nothing (0), and zero is wholeness/unity (1).

I can't remember exactly what he said, but he said there is something that can only be done from the 3rd dimension. I think he may have said, the 9th dimension can only be accessed from the 3rd. Since, 3 is the number of creation this could make sense to me. 3rd, 6th and 9th dimensions are very related. We need 3 dimensions to have a complete spatial experience. I guess 6 dimensions (where he says the architect is, basically the sun is often related to 6D) is needed to have a complete universe of experience. Then 9D would be a complete totality of everything interdimensionally.

In other words, if we are thinking in multiples of 3, we need to go thru the bottom (3rd) to get to the top (9th). I hope that kind of makes sense, cuz im trying to put an intuition into words. It could be very wrong, but I could also see it being on the right track as one way of looking at it.

Lastly, Mattias said the 1st dimension is boring, hence the division into the ALL. So, its seems like its a never ending cycle, not reaching the source and never reincarnating again. But then again, once you reach source, you are source, and part of source is always at source anyways if you see what i mean. Thus, starting a new looooooooooooooooooong cycle after reaching source, wouldn't be that same you anyway right? hmmm A true fresh start lol

In other words, everytime a new drop separates from the ocean/sea, it is new and unique. If we think of souls as these droplets, they can merge or split, which solves the problem others asked about having enough "souls" for the expanding population of earth, regardless of an influx of willing souls coming from far away. We could use fire as an analogy too, the source flame remains unchanged each time it lights up a new flame. Those flame can be divided or combined as well. Mind boggling lol

[DNA]

I believe in accepting the light tunnel offered at death.

But, that is because I'm not capable of performing the acrobatics of consciousness necessary to do otherwise.

One speaks of leaving reincarnation as if it is only a discussion one needs to have with one self.

Let me explain why the monks lived in caves by them selves for years on end.

One has to master ones passions.
One has to master ones impulses.
You have to master the bodies urges and demands.

You have to be able to endure abuse and wish your abuser nothing but love and happiness.

In a word you have to master detachment.

You must repower your body though the meditation of quiet mind. Turning off your ceaseless mental chatter.

You must recapitulate your life's existence.
You must revisit, relive your life and take back the energy stolen from you while giving back the energy you took.

A man detached from society, his past and the insults, the attacks of his fellow man.
This man may bypass the prescribed and leave the reincarnation process

But the work,,,

F@ck that, pass me another beer.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Merkaba360 (here)

Not sure we have a choice in the long run.

I'm personally sure that we do, but it's often wrested out of our spiritual hands by deep unconscious forces that lie within us, the same kinds of factors that also determine the broad course of our human lives.

Just as an example (but of course, one I can't prove, though I'm personally certain all this was real), as I've shared in a few threads here over the years I was a Tibetan Lama for many lifetimes until 1850, when I reincarnated in the West (Leicestershire, England).

That was a totally conscious decision, as in my meditation I'd perceived that there was a society way to the west, on the other side of the world, that was very unbalanced and spiritually extremely unhealthy, and which needed help. So my incarnation in England was very focused and deliberate.

However, that lifetime was a completely catastrophic disaster. I had the right idea — but was entirely unequipped to handle life in an alien culture, more alien than I'd ever imagined it would or could be. (That does quite often happen with cross-cultural incarnations, as best I know.)

This (as 'Bill Ryan)' is my fourth incarnation since then, and the first that's been in any way approaching 'normal'. While I've had quite an extreme kind of life by most standards, the earlier three were far more so. It might be said that only this lifetime has my intention as a 19th century Tibetan come anywhere close to being realized.

The summary (as best I know and understand) is that we do indeed have personal choice, but there are still many other unconscious factors that can get everything tangled up and make our conscious choices difficult to manifest.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I have a few clues and inklings of my own former lives. Most, I think, were long, long ago. One recent life was ecclesiastical, late middle-ages. I did not see eye-to-eye with church canon, or the way they did things. I don't know the details (and probably for the better), but that didn't end well for me. Another life was in ancient Greece. I had more than one existence in that time-frame, and all I can say from my heart is that it was a tremendously exciting time and place to be. Dangerous too, of course. War lingered never far from the horizon.

But the expansion of human consciousness was taking place on a grand scale in Greece during this era, from particularly the 4th to 1st centuries B.C. It was the first human renaissance if you will - one of the mind. I believe we went through a renaissance of the soul in the 19th century when the veil drew aside for the first time in a long time. Spirt stepped out of the shadows; phenomena occurred, and clairvoyance was switched on in many. Healers, teaches, and gurus revealed themselves, and Spiritualism took off in the West. Today I think we're living in another kind of renaissance: one of the heart. That may mean different things to different people. I'm not sure what it means myself, but I think it's to do with everything coming full circle, when we learn the true meaning of love, and what it really means to be human.

Before Greece there were Egyptian adventures, Old Kingdom or even pre-Old Kingdom, that really were like an episode of Ancient Aliens (these involve real and detailed memories).

But these are only a tiny few of the lives I know of. All of us live hundreds if not thousands of lives/existences, on hundreds if not thousands of different planes, planets, and realities. I suspect that's quite typical of 'adventurous souls' - which you all are who are reading these words - you certainly wouldn't be incarnate on this earth otherwise. We all chose to be here. Some need to be here, but for what purpose it's hard to guess. It certainly won't be the same for everyone. Some could be here to 'mend' their personal life tapestries by balancing karma, others to weave new threads for future pathways yet to be realised. That needs to be considered. Did you know that for multiple generations prior to the incarnation of Jesus many lightworkers incarnated for the sole purpose of raising the vibration of the planet so it was compatible with his energy? That Christ event involved centuries of work and planning.

Who knows. Our lives now may merely be stones, laying the foundations for lives yet to come.

We have little to no clue of how huge and wide our multi-dimensional reality is, or the true purpose behind the life circumstances we find ourselves in. It transcends time, and far transcends the consciousness we now possess. It is tiny in human form. Most have little clue, for example, their close familial relationships now were not forged in this life but many lives ago, maybe eons ago, and actions and deeds eons ago are still affecting those relationships today.

Existence is multi-dimensional and multi-time - All-time. We can barely scratch the surface of what these terms actually mean in our current form. We simply cannot begin to imagine the true 'greater reality'.

Planning our future lives now with our limited awareness would be a bit like a four-year old child, with a four-year old child's consciousness, planning what he is going to when he leaves home or finishes college. He hasn't got a clue. Before even approaching such considerations he has to come into so much more conscious awareness. We really have to die first and so say 'come into our own', meaning, we have to merge with our greater/higher self, or rather allow the greater self to merge with us. We are essentially toddlers without it.

I say, live this life first. Forget your future ones. That is not in our hands. And it's not only another time, and another reality, but it will be lived by an entirely different facet of your consciousness - i.e. another individual - than the one you are now.

[Brigantia]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I was a Tibetan Lama for many lifetimes until 1850, when I reincarnated in the West (Leicestershire, England).

This made me smile Bill - my dad's ancestors were from Leics, maybe we're related!

About 30 years ago I regressed to my past life spontaneously when under hypnosis. Wow, what a shock that was... but it helped me to make sense of who I was. My last life was as a man who wasn't a nice person at all, and also the person that he hurt the most in that lifetime became the person who has hurt me the most in this lifetime. So, I guess we're quits. (One memory that came to me from that life was watching the Blitz over London from a few miles away; the amazing thing was that it was all in colour!)

It then led me over the years to ponder who I was and the impact I had on others. A recent yoga class had a focus on speaking our truth - I told the teacher that I've never had a problem with speaking my truth, but I've had a problem with diplomacy! That's something that I've worked on for a long time and have tried to be a lot kinder to others.

The idea of escaping another life here is tempting, but balanced against that is the thought of seeing loved ones again on the other side. I had 20 years between this life and the last, so hopefully by the time I come back here again we'll have notched up to a better Yuga. So yep, I'll go for another round here, and hope that in the next lifetime I won't waste the opportunities like I have done in this life.

[Frankie Pancakes]

https://www.dolorescannon.com/life-death-side/

Due to karma, not only is there life after death; there are many lives after many deaths.

Whatever guidance a soul needs after transitioning the death experience will be provided. Life after death is guaranteed because the soul is indestructible. For humans, accepting death should be as easy as embracing life, because one cannot exist without the other. The spirit is not just a thing that resides in a body; it is eternal energy, created by Source.

[Wind]

The little "me" knows almost nothing, it is the viewpoint of your personality and ego in this earthly role right now. So it is bound to have a very limited perspective from the standpoint of this one single life with it's experiences. One lifetime is just a tiny pebble in the cosmic continuum, although as time is relative it certainly can feel as if one lifetime lasts for a very long time. Yet there is no time in eternity, only here people experience time.

However, the soul and our higher self truly knows and sees things as they are. The soul will see in the afterlife what has been before, what is and what could be (in possible future). So I can only say that only in our real home which is the afterlife I could know what I am about to do in my future lives because then I will be truly seeing with the vision of my soul. At the moment I simply have no idea, but I do certainly hope that I have earned a bit more peace in "future" times. Often times we all have a lot of inner work to do. Where you fall short as a human being, there lies your potential for growth. There is no judgement, the only judgement is only what you place on yourself! Karma isn't judgement either, it's just the law of cause and effect. You get back what you give, it's really no more complicated than that. The golden rule is the main tenet of most religions. Karmic deliverance can often seem to be quite slow, but not always.

If I were to answer from the perspective of my current lifetime right now, then I would say that I'd certainly not like to come back here again considering the fact what I've experienced and how things are currently on Earth. If that were to change drastically for the better then I might reconsider, but then again that is something I wouldn't know yet. I could say that knowing who and what I was before, I must have been either an idiot or quite brave to come again, but I do admit being a fool in many ways. Yet often it tends to be the case that there is either "unfinished" business here with other familiar souls or just the desire to help others. Or even just the desire for the experience of being alive, although often the desire for experience is vastly more interesting for younger souls. There's nothing wrong with that because no one is above or below anyone else anyways, there are just differences in terms of the state of consciousness.

Life is not only about experience even though it plays a very great part in the evolution of souls, but it's about relation. How you relate to others? They have everything to teach you about the world and about yourself. Then you will in your own way reflect things back at them too. When it comes to planet Earth, this is a very mixed planet in many ways. You can experience many things here, heavens and hells.

If you don't want to come back then choose another "holiday" resort location instead and have a good time until you get enough of it too.

Chances are that many of us will choose to come back though...

[rgray222]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Merkaba360 (here)

Not sure we have a choice in the long run.

I'm personally sure that we do, but it's often wrested out of our spiritual hands by deep unconscious forces that lie within us, the same kinds of factors that also determine the broad course of our human lives.

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There has always been a question of whether a person has free will or not. I truly believe the answer is that we have free will to choose the next incarnation, free will is owned by the soul, not the human. So when we arrive to take on that new life our free will is limited to turning left or right, the volume on the radio, and the channel on the TV but the broad strokes of our current human life have been firmly put in place before we ever arrived. Free will was exercised before human birth.

[Michi]

The best approach to prepare for a future incarnation (or journey without meat body) is to resolve inabilities and obsessions and dependencies.

I am in a somewhat lucky position to have a friend who is a very skilled practitioner in various processes similar to the ones delivered at Rons Org. Roundabout twice a year I travel to him to advance myself in the above areas.

I am sure there are also different approaches in tackling the above and believe that anybody can find his own way to accomplish that. It boils down to having some goals, plans and intention and faith in one self to maybee not reach everything by tomorrow but keep on walking towards it.

However - it would be very cool if there would be a travel guide for ex-carnated beings with practical how-to tips to not only travel far galaxies but how to advance as beings.

If anyone has such a guide - bring it on!

In closing of this post - visit the interactive star map, at http://www.galactic-server.net/linkmap.html (use at your own risk)