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    Russia’s Lavrov issues ultimatum to Ukraine: ‘For your own good’ | Russia-Ukraine war News

    “Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice.” - (Baruch Spinoza)
    Fulfil Moscow’s demands, ‘otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army’, Russia’s foreign minister said.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has given Ukraine an ultimatum: Fulfil Moscow’s demands — including surrendering Ukrainian territory that Russia now controls — or the Russian army will decide the fate of Ukraine.

    Speaking a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin once again said he was open to peace talks — and which the United States has described as disingenuous — Lavrov told Kyiv that it should, for its “own good”, comply with Moscow’s wishes.

    “Our proposals for the demilitarisation and denazification of the territories controlled by the regime, the elimination of threats to Russia’s security emanating from there, including our new lands, are well known to the enemy,” state news agency TASS quoted Lavrov as saying late on Monday.

    “The point is simple: Fulfil them for your own good. Otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army,” Lavrov said.

    Asked by TASS how long the conflict will last, Lavrov said: “The ball is in the regime’s court and Washington behind it.”

    On Sunday, Russian President Vladimir Putin again said Moscow was open to negotiations and blamed Kyiv and its Western backers for a lack of talks, comments which the US has dismissed as insincere.

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    US should think twice before contemplating ‘decapitation strike’ – Lavrov

    Reported comments by US officials about the possibility of a “decapitation strike” against Russia strongly suggest that Washington does not rule out the assassination of President Vladimir Putin, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in an interview with TASS news agency published on Tuesday.

    The minister noted that some “‘unnamed officials from the Pentagon actually threatened to conduct a ‘decapitation strike’ on the Kremlin…What we are talking about is the threat of the physical elimination of the head of the Russian state,” he said.

    The top diplomat went on to warn against such a line of thinking. “If such ideas are actually being nourished by someone, this someone should think very carefully about the possible consequences of such plans.”

    Lavrov was apparently referring to a September article by Newsweek, which alleged that US defense officials are considering a number of options to respond against a potential Russian nuclear strike, including “a decapitation strike to kill Putin in the heart of the Kremlin.”

    Ex-Russian president issues ‘nuclear catastrophe’ warning
    Ex-Russian president issues ‘nuclear catastrophe’ warning
    Fears of a possible nuclear conflict have been sparked in the West after Putin said in September that Moscow would use “all means” necessary to defend Russia and its people if its territorial integrity is threatened. However, Moscow has repeatedly stated that it has no plans to deploy atomic weapons, maintaining that a nuclear war should never be fought.

    The foreign minister also accused some of America's partners of embracing a confrontational approach in the nuclear sphere. “They seem to have gone completely beyond the bounds of decency,” he said, recalling that former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss “without a shadow of a doubt declared during the election debates that she was quite ready to order a nuclear strike.”

    Lavrov also recalled Ukraine’s statements on the matter, saying “I not even mentioning the Kiev regime’s provocations, that go off the chart. [Ukrainian President] Vladimir Zelensky went as far as to demand preventive nuclear strikes by NATO countries on Russia. This is also beyond the bounds of what is acceptable,” he noted.
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    Ukraine calls for UN-brokered ‘peace summit’ without Russia
    Kiev has proposed holding a so-called "peace summit" by the end of February to mark the anniversary of Russia's military operation against Ukraine. The initiative was announced by Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba.

    In an interview with AP published on Monday, Kuleba admitted that while Ukraine will do whatever it can to win its ongoing military conflict with Russia in 2023, diplomacy will play an important role. "Every war ends in a diplomatic way," Kuleba said, adding that "every war ends as a result of the actions taken on the battlefield and at the negotiating table."

    Asked about the matter of inviting Russia to this "peace summit," Kuleba insisted Moscow must first face an "international court" and be prosecuted for supposed war crimes. He also dismissed Putin’s recent calls for negotiations, stating that everything Russia does on the battlefield "proves" that Moscow does not want to talk.

    The minister added that the UN was "the best venue for holding this summit, because it is not about making a favor to a certain country" and suggested UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres as mediator for the event.

    Kiev is mulling peace plan, WSJ reports
    Kiev is mulling peace plan, WSJ reports
    "He has proven himself to be an efficient mediator and an efficient negotiator, and most importantly, as a man of principle and integrity. So we would welcome his active participation," Kuleba said about Guterres.

    Earlier this month, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky addressed G20 leaders in Indonesia and laid out a ten-point "peace formula," which includes the restoration of Ukraine’s territorial integrity, the withdrawal of Russian troops, an "all for all" prisoner swap, and a tribunal for those Kiev accuses of aggression.

    Russia, meanwhile, has insisted that Kiev must "recognize the reality on the ground" as a prerequisite for any peace negotiations, including the new status of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye as parts of Russia.

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    Serbian Army on standby amid Kosovo tensions – Belgrade
    Serbia has placed its army and police on high alert amid a tense standoff between Belgrade and the breakaway region of Kosovo. Officials say armed personnel are ready to intervene to defend the local Serb population.

    “The president of Serbia, as the commander-in-chief, has ordered tonight that the Serbian Armed Forces be at the highest level of combat readiness, meaning the preparedness to use their armed potential,” Defense Minister Milos Vucevic told Tanjug news agency on Monday. He added that the government would ensure that “all measures are taken to protect the Serbian people in Kosovo.”

    Kosovo is predominantly populated by ethnic Albanians, but has a Serb majority in its northern areas. Serbia pulled its troops from Kosovo in 1999 after NATO intervened in support of a local Albanian armed insurgency, bombing Belgrade and other Serbian cities. NATO peacekeepers have since been deployed to the region, which ultimately declared independence from Belgrade in 2008. Serbia still considers Kosovo to be part of its own territory.

    West issues ultimatum to Serbia – media
    West issues ultimatum to Serbia – media
    Tensions have been brewing in recent months as the Kosovo authorities demanded that the Serbian community only use Kosovo-issued license plates instead of those issued by Belgrade. The situation deteriorated further this month when local Serbs erected roadblocks to protest the arrest of a former police officer accused of attacking municipal election commission offices.

    Kosovo Prime Minister Albin Kurti has called for the barricades to be taken down.
    Belgrade asked the NATO-led KFOR peacekeeping force to allow the deployment of Serbian military and police to Kosovo. According to UN Security Council Resolution 1244, which formalized the end of the 1999 NATO bombing campaign, Belgrade can send up to 1,000 personnel to protect the Serb-populated areas and border crossings if the request is approved by the leader of the peacekeeping force.
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    Serbian patriarch calls on Serbs, Albanians to achieve peace, mutual understanding

    The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church likened the Patriarchate of Pec with the Vatican and invited people to imagine that someone prohibits the Pope to travel to the Vatican

    BELGRADE, December 27. /TASS/. Serbian Patriarch Porfirije on Tuesday called on Serbs and Albanians to achieve peace and mutual understanding in Kosovo and Metohija.

    "What we need first of all is mutual understanding, co-existence, peace for Serbs and Albanians. Serbs and Albanians have been living together in these territories for centuries: Serbs have lived in Kosovo and Metohija for 15 centuries, and Serbs and Albanians have lived here together for 4-5 centuries. If there is goodwill, you can find a way to live together and a way to have room for everyone," he said as he addressed the public with Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic. "God forbid that it comes to clashes. It won’t get anyone anything good."

    The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church likened the Patriarchate of Pec with the Vatican and invited people to imagine that someone prohibits the Pope to travel to the Vatican.

    "The whole world would rise up to defend the Pope. Is there another church leader in the world who can't get into his home?" he continued. "I’m asking the Albanians and the world’s great powers to help to preserve peace."

    Vucic and the patriarch discusses the situation in Kosovo and Metohija after Pristina banned the church leader from entering the Serbian province before Christmas.

    The situation in Kosovo deteriorated sharply on December 6, when the special forces of the unrecognized territory, accompanied by patrols of the European Union Mission in Kosovo (EULEX), began to seize the premises of election commissions in the north of Kosovo and Metohija. The Serbian population rebuffed the Kosovars, who fled across the Ibar River. On December 8, some 350 police officers from Kosovo invaded the Serb-populated north of the province in armored vehicles and blockaded the northern part of Kosovska Mitrovica. On 10 December, Kosovo police in Kosovska Mitrovica arrested a former Serb policeman on trumped-up charges. In response, the Serbian population took to the streets and barricaded highways in several settlements.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Personally, i have done and would do the same once again


    Answer simple: Someone died because these guys did something different than what they were told to do


    In war, if you don't follow orders or override your captain or commander, people die. So yeah, it may seem violent or disgraceful or whatever, but the truth is, now there are two dead soldiers and someone will have to call their families to give the bad news. And all because these morons thought they knew better than the commander

    https://t.me/NovichokRossiya/21376


    It is not that we are violent like i remember being called, or toxic or whatever, it is that sometimes, you are driven beyond by anger


    Now 'ask' these morons nicely to call the relatives of the dead soldiers and explain to them why their family members are dead and how it happened
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    This is the fake 'Ukraine is the master race' narrative, they have no culture, no real education, it's all a lie. It's so fragile it completely breaks in a couple minutes, just by looking at it. Defective glass view and understanding of the world and history. How are these people going to interact with the rest of the world if they don't live in the real world, at all? All they learned in school is fake, but all the other countries in the world are going to play pretend? Or will people look at these kids and wonder and laugh and then ignore them? How does the future looks like for these people really, unless they manage to brainwash the entire world to believe this rewritten almost comical, version of history they are teaching in Ukrainian schools...



    She went to hide in her 'Safe Space'


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    But Ukraina...



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    Saw a video of tanks and other stuff moving to the front line, including trench diggers... So that means the 'front' may/will be moved several kilometers beyond the current trenches Ukraine has setup, instead of reusing the ones they made... possibly/probably/maybe. implying there's no take over position, but overrun them and go deep inside into the rear of those, then create an entire new front line

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    Oh Nouuuuu


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    Pandora Papers Reveal Offshore Holdings of Ukrainian President and his Inner Circle

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rode to power on pledges to clean up the Eastern European country, but the Pandora Papers reveal he and his close circle were the beneficiaries of a network of offshore companies, including some that owned expensive London property.

    Actor Volodymyr Zelensky stormed to the Ukrainian presidency in 2019 on a wave of public anger against the country’s political class, including previous leaders who used secret companies to stash their wealth overseas.

    Now, leaked documents prove that Zelensky and his inner circle have had their own network of offshore companies. Two belonging to the president’s partners were used to buy expensive property in London.

    The revelations come from documents in the Pandora Papers, millions of files from 14 offshore service providers leaked to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and shared with partners around the world including OCCRP.

    The documents show that Zelensky and his partners in a television production company, Kvartal 95, set up a network of offshore firms dating back to at least 2012, the year the company began making regular content for TV stations owned by Ihor Kolomoisky, an oligarch dogged by allegations of multi-billion-dollar fraud. The offshores were also used by Zelensky associates to purchase and own three prime properties in the center of London.

    The documents also show that just before he was elected, he gifted his stake in a key offshore company, the British Virgin Islands-registered Maltex Multicapital Corp., to his business partner — soon to be his top presidential aide. And in spite of giving up his shares, the documents show that an arrangement was soon made that would allow the offshore to keep paying dividends to a company that now belongs to his wife.

    Volodymyr Zelensky
    Credit: Mykhailo Palinchak / Alamy Stock Photo Volodymyr Zelensky.
    A comedian and actor who had been famous since the 2000s, Zelensky began his political rise a few years after taking on a starring role in the political satire “Servant of the People,” which began airing on the oligarch’s network in 2015. The show starred Zelensky as a humble history teacher whose anti-corruption rant in class is filmed by a student, goes viral online, and wins him national office.

    In a case of life imitating art, Zelensky ended up winning the real-world Ukrainian presidency just three-and-a-half years after the show’s launch, with more than 73 percent of the vote.

    Zelensky capitalized on widespread public anger at corruption, but his 2019 campaign was dogged by doubts over his anti-graft bona fides, given that his campaign was boosted by media belonging to Kolomoisky — who is accused of stealing US$5.5 billion from his own bank and funneling it offshore in concert with his partner, Hennadiy Boholiubov.

    In the heat of the campaign, a political ally of incumbent President Petro Poroshenko published a chart on Facebook purporting to show that Zelensky and his television production partners were beneficiaries of a web of offshore firms that allegedly received $41 million in funds from Kolomoisky’s Privatbank.

    That ally, Volodymyr Ariev, didn’t provide evidence, and his accusations have never been proven. But the Pandora Papers show that at least some of the details in this alleged scheme correspond to reality. The leaked documents show information on 10 companies in the network that match structures detailed in Ariev’s chart.

    The new documents show that part of the network was managed with help from Fidelity Corporate Services, an offshore consultancy that was one of 14 firms whose documents make up part of the Pandora Papers leak. The documents show that Zelensky and his partners used companies based in the British Virgin Islands (BVI), Belize, and Cyprus.

    Two of Zelensky’s associates in the offshore network, who were also part of his TV production company, now hold powerful positions. Serhiy Shefir is Zelensky’s top presidential aide, while Ivan Bakanov heads the Security Service of Ukraine.

    These powerful positions also come with risks. Shefir narrowly escaped an apparent assassination attempt when his car was fired on outside Kyiv on September 22. He was unharmed, but his driver was wounded.

    Zelensky has repeatedly pledged to rein in oligarchs. The day after the attack on Shefir, the country’s parliament passed a bill that would create a register of oligarchs and bar them from financing political parties or taking part in privatizations. Zelensky said that the attempt on Shefir’s life will receive a strong response and will not influence his fight against vested interests.

    A spokesman for Zelensky declined to comment. Shefir and Bakanov did not respond to questions.

    The rest is here,

    https://www.occrp.org/en/the-pandora...s-inner-circle
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    Ukrainian bots are using an old database of talking points in Twitter This was a very cheap bot design, all dates were hard coded into the tweet contents. Not the first time i see similar or other kind of failures like this one in both Youtube and Twitter

    On a post made on 28 December, 2022, the tweet content mentions it is 2019


    https://twitter.com/BlackSeaStudent/...36528457420801


    Once, i saw one on a youtube video, it went something like this:

    "These guys are amazing, this effort is something only Ukrainians heroes could achieve, they deserve all respect from the world. These guys are heroes, they deserve all respect from the world for this effort only Ukrainians could achieve"

    Someone programmed that bot badly and it picked up two sentences and joined them together on a youtube post, the two sentences were very very similar but not exactly the same, trying to fool people and hiding the bot spam

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