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    Hi Bill,

    You had reported Michael Salla saying he was 'committed' to Corey Goode ... somehow. By definition, this word 'committed' implies a second party. Who or what was this?

    I don't want to ask questions you would prefer not to answer, and if that's the case, that's OK.

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    Hi Bill,

    You had reported Michael Salla saying he was 'committed' to Corey Goode ... somehow. By definition, this word 'committed' implies a second party. Who or what was this?

    I don't want to ask questions you would prefer not to answer, and if that's the case, that's OK.
    Ah, that's an interesting perspective. I had always assumed a simpler human-nature situation, that Salla had taken up a public position that he felt for reasons of pride, ego, or some sense of professional duty, he couldn't reverse.

    The whole thing is a kind of modern Aesop's Fable, of course. (And we see this everywhere in today's geopolitics!) Once a public figure adopts a strongly stated stance, no matter what the negative outcomes that grow ever more apparent, human ego makes it next to impossible to say:
    "I have new information now, and I understand everything much better. I therefore apologize to everyone whose lives were affected by my earlier decision, and it's clear that I made a profound mistake."

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

    And to do so makes one so much more trustworthy and relatable.

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

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    Hi Bill,

    You had reported Michael Salla saying he was 'committed' to Corey Goode ... somehow. By definition, this word 'committed' implies a second party. Who or what was this?

    I don't want to ask questions you would prefer not to answer, and if that's the case, that's OK.
    Ah, that's an interesting perspective. I had always assumed a simpler human-nature situation, that Salla had taken up a public position that he felt for reasons of pride, ego, or some sense of professional duty, he couldn't reverse.

    The whole thing is a kind of modern Aesop's Fable, of course. (And we see this everywhere in today's geopolitics!) Once a public figure adopts a strongly stated stance, no matter what the negative outcomes that grow ever more apparent, human ego makes it next to impossible to say:
    "I have new information now, and I understand everything much better. I therefore apologize to everyone whose lives were affected by my earlier decision, and it's clear that I made a profound mistake."
    Interesting you should mention that, Bill. I was just thinking about my admiration for those that ARE willing to reconsider once they receive new information or understanding. I am filled with admiration for those that adapt when they find new info or gain a greater understanding. Someone that is unwilling/unable to reconsider new or modified possibilities is as useless as someone like Jerry Springer (a one time tawdry reality show host). It's just the entertainment, folks. I am fine with entertainment and the masses can have it as gross as they like I guess, but facts and truth are solid.

    I certainly have my radar up for any in the so called "truth Community". Many of which are little more than Jerry Springer shows with a truther angle. In the end we have to hone our intuitive skills , our logic, our courage like our lives depend on it , because it really does.


    Even the concept of "this community or that community"....That's a bunch of programming as well. Exploiting the fact that we are all tribal in nature. We want to belong. How ripe are the pickings right at this very moment for govvie agencies and the likes of people like Corey Goode to exploit. No concrete facts needed. To be honest, very little logic or great storytelling is no longer needed at least in the US. There seems to be a pervasive "know it all" mentality that just destroys the gifts, we humans have been given. We are getting dumber, duller, filled by a dull, unthinking amorality that looks nothing like what I thought it would. Bill, I so understand your disdain for current western culture , if we can dare call it that. So there are my 2 cents worth.

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

    What happened with "Charles" from your "Rulers of the world" Interview? I'm obsessed with that interview.
    Did you stay in touch with him?
    Did he die in the end?
    When did you last speak?
    What are your thoughts on that interview and all the information, looking back? I feel it was spot on. Great job btw.
    If you could share anymore information on him and that interview i would be very grateful. I'm deeply fascinated about the big picture and the 33 Bloodline Elites at that level.
    Thank you

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    Quote Posted by Tlevis (here)
    What happened with "Charles" from your "Rulers of the world" Interview? I'm obsessed with that interview.
    Did you stay in touch with him?
    Did he die in the end?
    When did you last speak?
    What are your thoughts on that interview and all the information, looking back? I feel it was spot on. Great job btw.
    If you could share anymore information on him and that interview i would be very grateful. I'm deeply fascinated about the big picture and the 33 Bloodline Elites at that level.
    Thank you
    Thanks for the questions, and a very warm welcome to the forum!
    • What happened with "Charles" from your "Rulers of the world" Interview? Did you stay in touch with him?

      I've not heard anything from him for many years now, and I have no further information at all. We last had audio contact back in 2011, and I had a few emails from him up until c.2014. I sent a long email to him in c.2017, but there was no reply.
    • What are your thoughts on that interview and all the information, looking back? I feel it was spot on. Great job btw.

      I think there was a very great deal of truth in everything he disclosed. He never once mentioned plans for a pandemic (or the far, far more lethal vaxx), but as you may recall he did state that the strategy for reducing global population was to be via widespread famine. As best I can see from everything we're in the middle of right now, that scenario is not at all unlikely.
      Do see these threads for more details:
    1. Food shortages are unavoidable now
    2. Manufactured Food Shortages (Eradication of Our Food Supply)
    3. Global Shortages of Everything

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

    Hello Bill! You have probably answered that before but it's worth a try.

    Do you ever think of doing more interviews? You were a pioneer in the field and now that there's so much disinfo out there, we desperately need interviewers with spiritual integrity and knowledge like you. Thank you.

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    Quote Posted by ZenBaller (here)
    Hello Bill! You have probably answered that before but it's worth a try.

    Do you ever think of doing more interviews? You were a pioneer in the field and now that there's so much disinfo out there, we desperately need interviewers with spiritual integrity and knowledge like you. Thank you.
    Thanks! And yes, it's a question I get asked quite often.

    Here's what I posted in October 2020, and my answer really hasn't changed much:

    ~~~
    I'm pretty disgusted with the dog-eat-dog mêlée that is now the so-called 'alternative media'. I see more and more parallels with the mainstream, as greed, cheap entertainment, monetization, paywalls, ego, manipulation, toxicity, drama, sleaze, competition and fakery all slowly grow and grow and grow. It's not everywhere, but there's a lot of it now.

    I've posted several times that there's a kind of Stockholm Syndrome at play here, that I've not heard anyone else ever comment on. By that, I refer to the known phenomenon in which a kidnapped person, held prisoner by an authoritarian controlling group, sometimes flips to adopt the very same values as their powerful captors.

    The alt media has adopted the values of the mainstream, in just the same way. Much of the alt media is a cheap copy of CNN or Fox, complete with commercials. The content is different, but the copied style is very often just the same.

    It makes the days of Project Camelot, founded 14 years ago, seem like a naive simple playground in comparison. So to get to the question, I'm really not very motivated to go to the trouble to dive back into the alternative swamp.

    In the last several years I feel I've grown quite a lot, in the sense that it's no longer important for me in any ego-sense to be working hard to yell at thousands of people through some virtual bullhorn. I know what I know, I understand what I understand, my values are my values, and I'm personally very comfortable and rock solid with all that.

    A few people may listen to what I have to share, which I appreciate. I'm not trying to be famous, to get rich, to prove anything, or to compete. I do my own internal work, and I know that I make a difference, and have definitely done so.

    I know exactly what I've done in my life, which is really quite a lot. I'm 100% definitely nowhere near the end of this incarnation! But I know I've already way more than lived the life of most other people, whatever field they're in, and that generates its own peace and satisfaction.


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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

    Hearing you loud and clear Bill. It's unsurprising that you feel jaded, given the setbacks suffered at the hands of some whistle blowhards, which must've been a severe blow at times. But it hasn't detracted one iota from the value of such a large and outstanding body of work, still so relevant, and absolutely unique.

    But would you perhaps consider interviewing already established whistleblowers at some time in the future?

    Two that spring immediately to my mind are
    (1) Gary McKinnon. If I remember correctly he either said, or intimated, that he held something back as insurance. I'd like to know whether the latest UFO information we have confirms anything he hasn't yet divulged.
    (2) Bob Lazar. Now, Bob is probably as sick of being asked about his Area 51 experiences as much as you are at the prospect of more interviews, Bill, but UFO experiences apart, I'd love to know more about his brilliant engineering skill set and whether he might have an answer to harnessing cheap renewable energy. I'd also like to know why he's not working for Elon Musk.

    I know I said two, but a third would be Tom Montalk.

    Would you also agree that the gap between the alternative and mainstream communities is moving inexorably closer together ?

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    Hearing you loud and clear Bill. It's unsurprising that you feel jaded, given the setbacks suffered at the hands of some whistle blowhards, which must've been a severe blow at times. But it hasn't detracted one iota from the value of such a large and outstanding body of work, still so relevant, and absolutely unique.

    But would you perhaps consider interviewing already established whistleblowers at some time in the future?

    Two that spring immediately to my mind are
    (1) Gary McKinnon. If I remember correctly he either said, or intimated, that he held something back as insurance. I'd like to know whether the latest UFO information we have confirms anything he hasn't yet divulged.
    (2) Bob Lazar. Now, Bob is probably as sick of being asked about his Area 51 experiences as much as you are at the prospect of more interviews, Bill, but UFO experiences apart, I'd love to know more about his brilliant engineering skill set and whether he might have an answer to harnessing cheap renewable energy. I'd also like to know why he's not working for Elon Musk.

    I know I said two, but a third would be Tom Montalk.

    Would you also agree that the gap between the alternative and mainstream communities is moving inexorably closer together ?
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      That's interesting about Gary "holding something back as insurance". I'd never heard of that... do you have a reference?
      He's been interviewed numerous times now, and (ss best I know, though I might be wrong!) he really has nothing else to say, with everything he did and saw (which was important, but really not a very great deal of stuff) already being out there. What he felt he uncovered ("ship-to-ship transfers", and "non-terrestrial officers") could really be stated in just a few paragraphs.

      Incidentally, it wasn't Gary who ever mentioned the codename Solar Warden, though many think it was. Gary never knew a thing about that. That was all Camelot witness Henry Deacon's confirmation of some details in a very interesting anonymous post on a UFO-focused forum back in 2006. The whole story, and a very fascinating one too which almost no-one knows about, is all recorded on Avalon in my post #2 (with more details following after that) on the Avalon thread simply called Solar Warden.
    • Bob Lazar

      In Camelot days, we repeatedly tried to get hold of him, but he was totally evasive. He remained that way for nearly 30 years until Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp each successfully persuaded him to go on record one more time. Part of his whole credibility is that he's never courted publicity of any kind.

      I'm completely certain everything he reported was true, but I do rather suspect there may be one or two things he encountered which he's never revealed or fully revealed, maybe just because he himself was unsure of what he saw, read, heard or witnessed.
    • Tom Montalk

      I'm really not in a position to comment as (embarrassingly!) I really don't know enough about him.
    • Would you also agree that the gap between the alternative and mainstream communities is moving inexorably closer together?

      Ha, what an interesting question.
      In content, No. In style, Yes. (And that's NOT a good thing.)

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    • Gary McKinnon

    That's interesting about Gary "holding something back as insurance". I'd never heard of that... do you have a reference?


    Richard Dolan MAY be able to shed some light on this as another video with GMcK and energy is mentioned by RD as being on his website. Unfortunately I am no longer a member at Richard Dolan so cannot access his videos, but I'm sure he mentioned "insurance" somewhere. Richard Dolan asked him why he was downloading the photograph when he couldve just screenshot it (I would have, wouldn't you?) and the answer he gave was unsatisfactory I thought, especially for an IT buff. The above YT video was reposted by Devlin 2 months ago, although the original interview was conducted way before then. Incidentally the Solar Warden issue is addressed at 35:06 and Project Camelot is mentioned. Unrelated to Solar Warden Gary also mentions a weird incident at around 52:14 which is quite interesting.

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    • Bob Lazar

      In Camelot days, we repeatedly tried to get hold of him, but he was totally evasive. He remained that way for nearly 30 years until Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp each successfully persuaded him to go on record one more time. Part of his whole credibility is that he's never courted publicity of any kind.

      I'm completely certain everything he reported was true, but I do rather suspect there may be one or two things he encountered which he's never revealed or fully revealed, maybe just because he himself was unsure of what he saw, read, heard or witnessed.
    I think he had a complete breakdown at some point Bill. I can't imagine the pressure he mustve been put under, and even now the name Bob Lazar is synonymous with that one thing when really he was such a talented and brilliant guy

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    • Tom Montalk
      I'm really not in a position to comment as (embarrassingly!) I really don't know enough about him.
    I'm surprised about that as Tom Montalk is such an interesting individual. From memory he was linked with Laura Knight-Jacczyk but they had a falling out and separated ways. His YT channel is well worth a look, as is his impressive website

    https://www.youtube.com/@TomMontalk

    https://montalk.net

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    • Would you also agree that the gap between the alternative and mainstream communities is moving inexorably closer together?

      Ha, what an interesting question.
      In content, No. In style, Yes. (And that's NOT a good thing.)
    Could you please expand on that Bill? I thought it was just a case of the public joining the dots - just like it was for me.
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 4th January 2023 at 14:56. Reason: fixed quote formatting

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on. :)

    Bill, did you ever ask Charles about other past instances of people who have claimed to be members of a secret ruling elite family and if they were legit? The "Revelations of an Elite Family Insider" from 2005 or "The Hidden Hand" from 2008, for example.

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    Hi Bill, I was wondering how things have been since the events around losing your wallet and then finding it under your hat?

    More to the point; has anything else occurred in your home that might be related or similar?

    Has it changed your thoughts and views on portions of paranormal/ufo experiences reported by others?

    Has it made your open mind more open?

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    Hi Bill,

    As a Brit, what do you think about punk rock?

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    Hi Bill,

    As a Brit, what do you think about punk rock?
    Ha. Well, it's not music.

    It's a means of expression, of course. But so are many other things, like cheap graffiti and various forms of abuse. It's one of many small and not-so-small indicators that what we regard as modern civilization is gradually but irreversibly degenerating.
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    Hi Bill, I was wondering how things have been since the events around losing your wallet and then finding it under your hat?

    More to the point; has anything else occurred in your home that might be related or similar?

    Has it changed your thoughts and views on portions of paranormal/ufo experiences reported by others?

    Has it made your open mind more open?
    Thanks, and that's a very acutely aware question. Yes, one or two other things have occurred which I've not mentioned on the forum at all and which right now I'm only discussing with a few close friends. I've been carefully considering a way to share them. (Do please forgive me for the seemingly evasive answer, but there are some good reasons. )

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    Bill, did you ever ask Charles about other past instances of people who have claimed to be members of a secret ruling elite family and if they were legit? The "Revelations of an Elite Family Insider" from 2005 or "The Hidden Hand" from 2008, for example.
    As best I genuinely recall — though I can't be totally 100% certain as I write this with checking back on archived notes — he said that both of those accounts were largely fictional.

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    • Would you also agree that the gap between the alternative and mainstream communities is moving inexorably closer together?

      Ha, what an interesting question.
      In content, No. In style, Yes. (And that's NOT a good thing.)
    Could you please expand on that Bill? I thought it was just a case of the public joining the dots - just like it was for me.
    (Sorry I missed this question! )

    It feels a little hard for me to answer, as — if I may say! — I do feel it's rather obvious. Yes, many people can join the dots now, and have increasingly been doing so as you very rightly say. There's definitely an ongoing snowball effect. But it's not because of the controlled, scripted and manipulative mainstream media narrative, it's despite it.

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    Hi Bill,

    As a Brit, what do you think about punk rock?
    Ha. Well, it's not music.

    It's a means of expression, of course. But so are many other things, like cheap graffiti and various forms of abuse. It's one of many small and not-so-small indicators that what we regard as modern civilization is gradually but irreversibly degenerating.
    That's a useful and pure perspective

    Destructive rebelling can go full circle though, like perhaps as in Charles' story, but I'd also argue it's the case with John Lydon. But your point is a great reminder of the war against music, and then even looking at the pop with high production values, with it's bland musicness, over-excess of 'cool' or robotic expressionlessness which the punk genre cryptically but intrinsically warned us about. I say cryptic because punk wasn't that generous. But with punk I'm inclined to respect them as much as I respect maggots which are supremely useful. Don't blame the player maggots, hate the game wound.

    But not disagreeing with your point Bill, because I also believe punk was made sarcastically, irreverently and in bad-faith. But it doesn't feel as bad coming from an angry individual, as it does from a corporation or government. I suppose I'm trying to say it I feel it was worth it for John Lydon

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    • Would you also agree that the gap between the alternative and mainstream communities is moving inexorably closer together?

      Ha, what an interesting question.
      In content, No. In style, Yes. (And that's NOT a good thing.)
    Could you please expand on that Bill? I thought it was just a case of the public joining the dots - just like it was for me.
    (Sorry I missed this question! )

    It feels a little hard for me to answer, as — if I may say! — I do feel it's rather obvious. Yes, many people can join the dots now, and have increasingly been doing so as you very rightly say. There's definitely an ongoing snowball effect. But it's not because of the controlled, scripted and manipulative mainstream media narrative, it's despite it.
    I have mainstream friends who joined the dots over Brexit/MP behaviour and Covid/MP behaviour, even globalisation but when it comes to 9/11 the jury is disappointingly still out. So, a toe over, but no giant leap. I think it's because they wouldnt know what to do next . .

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