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    We don't need no education...

    I don't know if he said i have one job or not, and by now i'm afraid to ask.. lmao

    These guys are so deluded, the truly seem to think It is Russia, and not Ukraine, who is sending their soldiers to the meat grinder. I guess he hasn't seen any real videos for a while from the actual front line. Or maybe he's the kind of person that actively scrolls past them in an attempt to prevent catching a glimpse of reality

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    This is very hard to watch. The victim of this forced conscription must be between 50-55 years old. It's happening all over Ukraine now, an act of pure violent desperation, a nation's people turning in on itself.

    https://t.me/intelslava/43602


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    Jeezzzz...what a pain in the a$$ ... (about Gerald Celente video)

    I wish I could mute the woman part...she is the embodiment presstitute...

    An easy eye candy that casually can talk...and not pass the opportunity to try to hang on Celente the stigmata "conspiracy theorist"
    which he passes elegant like a torero the bull.

    waiting the end from each paraphrase from Celente to spring like a cobra snake...and go on with yada yada "official" narrative.

    Give me a break! applause for Celente!
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    If all the western countries send all the military machines, guns, resources and more to Ukraine, but Ukraine still loses, then what?

    Considering the following:

    1. Western countries are broken but hiding this because they know the only way to save themselves for going fully bankrupt is to defeat Russia and regain control of all resource markets they are losing by the day
    2. They need Ukraine to pay back the gigantic debt so they can rearm themselves (the plan was to sell all the garbage they have and then make Ukraine pay for new modern guns over the next decades)
    3. If Ukraine is gone, taken apart, who's going to pay that debt? The land may be taken as payback, but the most important resources happen to be on the Donbass and south/east regions of Ukraine, so there won't be much to extract from the remaining land

    So all those western "partners" will be without army, without money, without anyone to collect money from, without market, without gas, without influence of any kind

    Perhaps if that happens then we'll finally see some real peace in the middle east and other places that have been destroyed in the name of "freedom and democracy" for decades now

    For the first time, the countries most affected by NATO and the fake fight for freedom, may actually get a chance to overcome the 'rules based murder' system, once new markets emerge and these are not influenced by the west, or make those countries who have imperialists views capable or attacking them, as they will be completely broke and unable to do much but fall down like domino pieces

    Who knows, but could be a possible outcome i think

    It does feel, funny and all, that the venture into Ukraine turned to be some kind of giant Afghanistan as in what the Soviet Union experienced, but this time, the entire EU and US/UK are the ones overspending and getting themselves broke and lost.

    They had planned to force Russia into a war with Ukraine so that Russia would be depleted of everything and fall the same as the Soviets did. It seems to be completely the opposite. they fell into their own trap, it took less than a year, not 10..
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This is very hard to watch. The victim of this forced conscription must be between 50-55 years old. It's happening all over Ukraine now, an act of pure violent desperation, a nation's people turning in on itself.

    https://t.me/intelslava/43602

    Somehow, when i see things like this, i get reminded of that book 'The Man in the High Castle". I probably should read it again. I used to have it on my Amazon account that i lost long ago when i got locked out, but probably there's a PDF somewhere online

    There was also a TV series. Some times, it becomes harder not to believe we may actually be living a fake reality in which were were told Nazi Germany lost, but in reality it didn't at all and we don't know any better because history is always twisted and rewritten to serve the needs of the ones that win.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ma...le_(TV_series)
    Quote Set in 1962, the series' main setting is a parallel universe where the Axis powers have won World War II in 1946 after Giuseppe Zangara assassinated the United States President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933, which creates a series of developments that include the Germans dropping an atomic bomb on Washington, D.C. (now renamed "District of Contamination"). The German Reich extends to Europe and Africa and the Empire of Japan comprises Asia, but most of the series is set in the former US and in Germany proper.


    Flag of the Japanese Pacific States, part of the Empire of Japan
    Western North America, now part of the "Japanese Pacific States", is occupied by the technologically less-advanced Shōwa-period Empire of Japan, which has assimilated its formerly American citizens into Japanese culture, although high-class ethnic Japanese are extremely fascinated by pre-War American culture. Japan's Trade and Science ministers work in the Pacific States' capital, San Francisco. The Japanese rulers subject non-Japanese people to racial discrimination and grant them fewer rights.


    Flag of Nazi America, part of the Greater Nazi Reich
    Eastern and Midwestern North America is a colony controlled by the Greater Nazi Reich (GNR) under an aging Führer Adolf Hitler. The colony, headed by a "Reichsmarschall of North America", is commonly referred to as "Nazi America" or "the American Reich" and its capital is New York City. The Nazis continue to hunt minorities and euthanize the physically and mentally sick. The superior technology of the Germans is highlighted by the use of video phones and Concorde-like "rockets" for intercontinental travel.


    The US as depicted in the television series. Though Denver is the capital of the Neutral Zone, Canon City, Colorado, is a major setting.
    A Neutral Zone, which encompasses the Rocky Mountains, serves as a buffer zone between the Japanese Pacific States and Nazi America due to Cold War–like tensions between the German and Japanese blocs. Another buffer zone is present in the Urals.

    Films collected by the eponymous "Man in the High Castle" show views of numerous other Earths, including some where the Allies were victorious, some featuring executed Allied leaders (such as Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin), and some where an American resistance is doing well.
    Perhaps, that mister on the video was background checked and he turned out to have "Russian Genes" as Ukraine claims they can somehow detect with some magical kits they have. This and the guy with no hands both to be sent to the front to die without any resource, reminds of this

    Quote The Nazis continue to hunt minorities and euthanize the physically and mentally sick
    So, as i think we were talking on the other "Ukraine is not a Nazi state" thread, could be that they just do this in a way that seems 'legal' so the people in other countries are not shocked and reject the entire 'project', and instead slowly they just continue to remove these undesirables to clean up the gene pool. It is also normalized this way so that people eventually see nothing wrong with that and then it's just 'how things have always been'

    I'm going into conspiracy land now, lol
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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This is very hard to watch. The victim of this forced conscription must be between 50-55 years old. It's happening all over Ukraine now, an act of pure violent desperation, a nation's people turning in on itself.

    https://t.me/intelslava/43602

    Somehow, when i see things like this, i get reminded of that book 'The Man in the High Castle". I probably should read it again. I used to have it on my Amazon account that i lost long ago when i got locked out, but probably there's a PDF somewhere online
    There is indeed:

    https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Phi...h%20Castle.pdf


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    This is shocking, it could be a fake, but those desks and the pillars do look a lot like the real ones at the back of the Verkhovna Rada.

    For context, imagine seeing a US senator in this state at the US senate building, the scandal and fall will be historical. Yet this guy is just there, high as hell in the room. How did he get that drugged in the first place, and in that room? He's on something very hard for sure



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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This is very hard to watch. The victim of this forced conscription must be between 50-55 years old. It's happening all over Ukraine now, an act of pure violent desperation, a nation's people turning in on itself.

    https://t.me/intelslava/43602

    Somehow, when i see things like this, i get reminded of that book 'The Man in the High Castle". I probably should read it again. I used to have it on my Amazon account that i lost long ago when i got locked out, but probably there's a PDF somewhere online

    There was also a TV series. Some times, it becomes harder not to believe we may actually be living a fake reality in which were were told Nazi Germany lost, but in reality it didn't at all and we don't know any better because history is always twisted and rewritten to serve the needs of the ones that win.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ma...le_(TV_series)
    Quote Set in 1962, the series' main setting is a parallel universe where the Axis powers have won World War II in 1946 after Giuseppe Zangara assassinated the United States President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933, which creates a series of developments that include the Germans dropping an atomic bomb on Washington, D.C. (now renamed "District of Contamination"). The German Reich extends to Europe and Africa and the Empire of Japan comprises Asia, but most of the series is set in the former US and in Germany proper.


    Flag of the Japanese Pacific States, part of the Empire of Japan
    Western North America, now part of the "Japanese Pacific States", is occupied by the technologically less-advanced Shōwa-period Empire of Japan, which has assimilated its formerly American citizens into Japanese culture, although high-class ethnic Japanese are extremely fascinated by pre-War American culture. Japan's Trade and Science ministers work in the Pacific States' capital, San Francisco. The Japanese rulers subject non-Japanese people to racial discrimination and grant them fewer rights.


    Flag of Nazi America, part of the Greater Nazi Reich
    Eastern and Midwestern North America is a colony controlled by the Greater Nazi Reich (GNR) under an aging Führer Adolf Hitler. The colony, headed by a "Reichsmarschall of North America", is commonly referred to as "Nazi America" or "the American Reich" and its capital is New York City. The Nazis continue to hunt minorities and euthanize the physically and mentally sick. The superior technology of the Germans is highlighted by the use of video phones and Concorde-like "rockets" for intercontinental travel.


    The US as depicted in the television series. Though Denver is the capital of the Neutral Zone, Canon City, Colorado, is a major setting.
    A Neutral Zone, which encompasses the Rocky Mountains, serves as a buffer zone between the Japanese Pacific States and Nazi America due to Cold War–like tensions between the German and Japanese blocs. Another buffer zone is present in the Urals.

    Films collected by the eponymous "Man in the High Castle" show views of numerous other Earths, including some where the Allies were victorious, some featuring executed Allied leaders (such as Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin), and some where an American resistance is doing well.
    Perhaps, that mister on the video was background checked and he turned out to have "Russian Genes" as Ukraine claims they can somehow detect with some magical kits they have. This and the guy with no hands both to be sent to the front to die without any resource, reminds of this

    Quote The Nazis continue to hunt minorities and euthanize the physically and mentally sick
    So, as i think we were talking on the other "Ukraine is not a Nazi state" thread, could be that they just do this in a way that seems 'legal' so the people in other countries are not shocked and reject the entire 'project', and instead slowly they just continue to remove these undesirables to clean up the gene pool. It is also normalized this way so that people eventually see nothing wrong with that and then it's just 'how things have always been'

    I'm going into conspiracy land now, lol
    https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-man-in-...199395113.html

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    That guy at the Rada reminds me of videos like this, but without the not funny music, i find nothing funny in adding that music. These people are on very hard stuff and dying. There's nothing funny about it at all

    I also remember reading a lot about the hard drug issues in Russia all through the 90's and mid 2000s and until the major cleanup happened. This was also what Russia went through at some point. It completely destroys the people, culture, nation and much more



    For referencem just after the fall of the USSR, Russia was invaded with hard drugs, crack, fentanyl and other stuff like that. This went on more most of the 90s and into a lot of the 2000s. The purpose of that was to completely destroy the next generation of Russians, make them addicts in a way that the country would be a wasteland, full of zombies and unable to recover ever again

    Then there was a major purge started around 2008 and into 2015 or so, lots of the drug dealers were 'cleaned up', and the leaders that didn't align were also purged. I remember it was normal to see lots of nice cars and trucks going to the cemetery every over week, to put one of them to rest.

    It became popular to take pictures on their tombs, gangs then were cleaned up and aligned so that the country could be restored and survive the madness. It seems like Ukraine didn't had that same luck. I remember hearing that the decision to take down the top levels of the Mafia came directly from the very top, they were to align and stop selling hard drugs and move to do regular business or be cleaned away, but there was an iron fist hitting hard on anyone who would sell that kind of drugs to kids or young people, for example. So the country got mostly cleaned up (If a dealer was found to be selling hard stuff to kids or people in their 20s, he would be cleaned)

    This was very normal to see on the news back then
    https://news.sky.com/story/russian-m...emony-10457197

    Quote Aslan Usoyan, known in the Russian criminal underworld as 'Grandpa Hassan', was shot dead by a sniper as he left his favourite Moscow restaurant in broad daylight on Wednesday. He was hit by a single bullet in the neck.
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    Once Arestovich was 'fired', he started talking the truth, as he now has no obligation to follow the government narrative



    I just heard that his Instagram account has been blocked in all regions of Ukraine, he has been silenced. i wonder if soon we'll hear he was under investigation for drug business or other terrible accusation like that, then he was shot to death while the SBU was trying to detain him and he "resisted", like the guy that was supportive of the initial peace talks with Russia got killed. And how other's did as well over the past months once they are considered traitors. And let's remember Arestovich already on the Peacemaker kill list

    I tried accessing his page and i got this


    Interesting, then i switched to a vpn using Germany as exit point and i got this


    His instagram appears to be this
    https://www.instagram.com/alexey.arestovich
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    The emperor has no clothes

    Quote #Zelensky tells France that he wants Leclerc tanks and adds “We have to speed up! ".

    We are his minions, right? He's going to whistle us soon?!

    Let this shameful masquerade stop!
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    Alexander Dugin has been very broken for months now, it's just unbearable to see him kind of decay like that

    True heroes, don't look like Tony Start, Captain America or Marvel whatever, they just look like normal people who died trying to fight, fearless and strong



    Like Dasha



    His pain is immense, i feel like he want's to go do the longest sleep, and i feel terrible about it. I understand how he feels, it's tiring, but let's hope he manages to pull through



    And some fool in Ukraine claimed that Alexander had killed Dasha on purpose. How rotten and corrupt can a soul get, to suggest something like that?
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    Another light post, sorry, have to release all the dark pressure somehow, this is offtopic but please bear with me for a bit

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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    Another light post, sorry, have to release all the dark pressure somehow, this is offtopic but please bear with me for a bit
    Hi sis. Apologies for that recent past attempt at humour that bombed. You’re an OK gal.

    For here I made up a Haiku, what I hope for you.


    Light shines not from dark
    Free yourself from empathy
    Let go self pity


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    A very small incident, but I found this short video interesting. Two Ukrainian soldiers come forward to surrender, waving a white flag. A shot is fired over their heads, and they crouch down and don't move. Two Russians move forward quickly and grab them — presumably to get them quickly out of any possible harm's way from their own side.

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/30126


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    The penny drop! At last...

    German intelligence 'alarmed' over Ukrainian losses - media

    Germany's Federal Intelligence Agency (BND) is "alarmed" over heavy losses suffered by Ukrainian troops in the conflict between Kiev and Moscow, the Der Spiegel weekly reported on Friday.

    Russian and Ukrainian troops are currently vying for control of the strategic Donbass city of Artyomovsk (called Bakhmut by Ukraine), but the situation there does not look particularly bright for Kiev, the outlet reported, citing a "secret" meeting between BND officials and the German MPs responsible for security decisions.

    "The Ukrainian army is currently losing a three-digit number of soldiers every day" in the fight with Russian forces, Der Spiegel said, citing data reportedly presented by intelligence officials during the closed briefing earlier this week.

    Earlier this week, The Times reported that Kiev had sent poorly equipped troops with little combat experience to defend Artyomovsk.

    If Russian forces manage to seize the city, it would have "serious consequences" for Kiev, the BND warned, adding that control over Artyomovsk would potentially facilitate major Russian advances deeper into Ukrainian-held territory.

    The city of Artyomovsk has become a stronghold of the Ukrainian army in the years since the 2014 coup in Kiev. It is part of a 70-kilometer-long defense line created by the Ukrainian forces during the intervening years. Russia claims sovereignty over the city along with the rest of the Donetsk People's Republic, which joined Russia in October after a referendum. Kiev rejected the vote as a "sham."

    The city remains a major logistics hub for Ukrainian forces in the region and has emerged as a focal point of the conflict for both sides in recent months. Russian troops have achieved several victories in the area over the last several weeks, taking the city of Soledar and the strategic village of Klescheevka among several other settlements as they seek to encircle Artyomovsk.

    Comment: The only reason it's "alarming" is that the BND is forced to admit that it is true. They would be perfectly happy for Ukraine to sustain such losses as long as they could continue to give the impression that they are somehow "winning" the war, and not merely sending men and Western weapons into the meat grinder.


    Disagreements in Berlin mean no German tanks for Ukraine, yet - Russia states they won't change conflict's outcome, 'they burn like the rest'





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    https://www.sott.net/article/476512-...-like-the-rest

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    German general tells US generals to lose the Ukraine war as soon as possible to prevent losing the empire in Europe


    The German generals are trying it again. That's the Wolf's Lair plot of July 20, 1944.

    To save themselves, they are begging their counterparts in Washington, DC, to find a way to lose the war in the Ukraine as quickly as possible without losing the US empire in Germany. This means overruling or replacing, not only Vladimir Zelensky's regime in Kiev but also the Green Party ministers in power in Berlin, Robert Habeck and Annalena Baerbock, and maybe Chancellor Olaf Scholz to boot.

    The Wehrmacht plotter this time is a retired brigadier general named Erich Vad (lead image, right). As German military officers go, he's unusual. He was trained by a German-born Israeli infantry general turned academic. Vad then reached general's rank, according to a senior German politician, but "never led a battalion, never led a brigade, and was never deployed in active operations"; he is a "desk general".

    Vad's self-advertisements mention no active service or combat command. Instead, he has filled advisor posts at the Bundestag (2000-2006) and the Chancellery (2006-2013) when Angela Merkel was chancellor. Since 2014 he has been selling his advice either through Vad's own consulting firm in Munich or a Swiss intermediary company in Zurich.

    The bomb Vad has just placed under Zelensky's table and under the Green ministers' desks in Berlin can be spotted in an interview he published last week in Cologne.


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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)

    For the first time, the countries most affected by NATO and the fake fight for freedom, may actually get a chance to overcome the 'rules based murder' system..
    About as accurate a summary as you'd find anywhere. Couldn't have said it better myself, so, I won't
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