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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
    That's just click bait, their is no formal declaration of war by Germany.
    Not fair to call clickbait here, tho John used wrong wording. It is a significant statement about an undeclared war.

    At least the whole of Germany is fully aware now that they are 'fighting a war against Russia' - and can't pretend otherwise - interesting how a Green Politician can turn so easily into an ignorant and dangerous warmonger - but at least she was honest and slipped up by contradicting NATO statements about aiding Ukraine rather than the reality of using Ukraine to fight a proxy war... steadily building up tensions and propaganda (until such a time a formal declaration of war can be made...?)

    A formal declaration of war would involve using the democratic process and Western Nations evidently prefer to just go ahead without involving the public in any way - pumping out 24/7 propaganda to keep them (the Public) complicit and willing to see billions/trillions of it's money being funnelled into a war that has got nothing to do with the reasons pushed by NATO night and day - and indeed explicitly denied by NATO -

    'Germany at war with Russia': Explosive admission by Minister after NATO plays defensive (3:11)



    Quote The German Foreign Minister makes an explosive statement amid the Russia-Ukraine war. Germany is "at war with Russia," says Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock. The big "admission" of war against Russia comes just hours after the NATO chief tried to distance the bloc from the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Jens Stoltenberg, in an interview with Germany’s "Die Welt" newspaper, said that NATO is "neither a party to the conflict in Ukraine nor wants to be one." Interestingly, Russia has been repeatedly saying that the West is waging a "proxy war" against Moscow.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ukraine/2023...acks-zelensky/

    Excerpts:

    Yuriy Sak told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme: "We need 300 to 400 tanks for this to be a game changer.

    US President Joe Biden announced his decision to supply 31 M1 Abrams tanks, hours after Berlin said it would provide Leopard 2 tanks - the workhorse of NATO armies across Europe.

    Germany will send an initial company of 14 tanks from its stocks and approve shipments by allied European states.

    Britain has offered 14 of its comparable Challenger tanks and France is considering sending its Leclercs.

    Pledges to Ukraine from other countries that field Leopards have multiplied with announcements from Poland, Finland and Norway. Spain and the Netherlands said they were considering it.

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    This is no game changer. Some of the deliveries will take many months before they see action. It seems like more of a patronizing gesture on behalf of america and Germany. The Russian; however, is furious at this gesture. God only knows where this will be in many months. Will there be a response from the Russian? Only time will tell.

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    For context, this green party woman is literally very bad at using the German language. One can find many Youtube videos with ridicolous gibberish coming out of her mouth. So I assume her English is way worse, since she carries some kind of deep stupidity within.

    Nonetheless this could be a planned slip of the tongue, subtle signalling or whatever.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by wegge (here)
    For context, this green party woman is literally very bad at using the German language. One can find many Youtube videos with ridicolous gibberish coming out of her mouth. So I assume her English is way worse, since she carries some kind of deep stupidity within.

    Nonetheless this could be a planned slip of the tongue, subtle signalling or whatever.
    Her English on this occasion was very clear and simple - she left no wriggle room - for herself or NATO -
    Maybe she does have a kind of deep stupidity within - but she has done us all a favour bringing the truth out into the open... like Britain, if Russia is pushed and provoked into a war, (not of their choosing) Germany is dangerously vulnerable to missile strikes etc...

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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
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    WTF?





    That's just click bait, their is no formal declaration of war by Germany.

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    Looking back at history and as an example of russian reverse engineering consider the B-29 Superfortress and TU-4.
    Not fair to call clickbait here, tho John used wrong wording. It is a significant statement about an undeclared war.

    Thanks for that bit of history, in your visual. Iirc, they didn’t use or have the same thickness of aluminum sheet stock as the B-29 had, so they went with available next-thicker gauges. The engineers were told to make an exact copy, plane came out heavier. Today, even or maybe especially, they could face obstacles to (timely) copying. Jet engine metallurgy can’t be learned from the blades-in-hand, and maybe other materials. Software is a big part of the F-35, would be a security priority.

    JMO. Cheers BMJ.

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    The message, whether it was a gaffe or not, went through loud and clear:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/GCrYFz3LKh2E/

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    German BILD newspaper inquired with above lady's ministry about her words the day before, first the German quote below and then my translation.

    „Russland führt einen brutalen Krieg gegen die Ukraine. Das ist auch ein Krieg gegen die europäische Friedensordnung und das Völkerrecht“, heißt es aus dem Auswärtigen Amt auf BILD-Anfrage. „Bei ihrem Treffen mit Angehörigen der Parlamentarischen Versammlung des Europarats am 24.1. betonte Außenministerin Baerbock, dass Europa gegen diesen Krieg zusammenhalten muss.“

    „Das Völkerrecht ist eindeutig: Die Ukraine dabei zu unterstützen, ihr in der UN-Charta verbrieftes individuelles Selbstverteidigungsrecht gegen den völkerrechtswidrigen Angriffskrieg Russlands auszuüben, macht Deutschland nicht zu einer Konfliktpartei.“

    "Russia leads a brutal war against Ukraine. This is also a war against the European order of peace and the international law. During her meeting with members of the parliamentary congregation of the Council of Europe (or however exactly this is called?) foreign minister Baerbock (what a name!) stressed that Europe needs to stand together against this war."

    "International law is clear: Helping Ukraine to defend itself, as granted by the UN-Charta, against the illegal aggressive war of Russia, does not turn Germany into a warring faction."

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    I simply have to insert this 15 minute rant against the insanity here:



    He is correctly pointing out that the West is being led by complete and utter morons. The bottom line is these morons will trigger World War 3. The ONLY thing that would stop it would be the removal of the entire leadership of the West, which obviously will not happen so....
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    WTF?


    It makes absolute sense that this person from the "Green Party" is talking about a war and flushing more gasoline into the fire.

    Its not a secret that the german green party is connected more close than any other party in germany to the united states, many of their upcoming politicans worked for partner programs with US companys before they got their positions.

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    ***** BULLETIN ****** Russian Navy Ship Conducts SIMULATED Hypersonic Missile Launch off U.S. East Coast - Electronic Warfare JAMMED U.S. Radar, Phones, Internet for 34 seconds

    25 JANUARY 2023

    A Russian Navy ship in the Atlantic Ocean near Bermuda, conducted a simulated launch of a ZIRCON Hypersonic Missile against a "nautical target 900km away." The Simulated launch involved the use of Electronic Warfare that actually JAMMED U.S. radar, cellular phones in the Mid-Atlantic USA, and even disrupted digital internet traffic for 34 seconds!

    The Russian Navy Frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" tested the strike capabilities of Russia’s much-hyped Zircon hypersonic missile in the western Atlantic Ocean.

    People in the mid-Atlantic region of the US experienced electronic warfare jamming of civilian devices like cellular phones and Internet for 34 seconds.

    VIDEO DELETED (Lack of authenticity)

    One source reports via COVERT INTEL "In accordance with the training situation, the frigate practiced arranging a ZIRCON hypersonic missile strike against a maritime target at a distance over 900 kilometers away."


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    *****FLASH***** Russia Throws Down Nuclear Gauntlet over M1, Bradley and other Offensive Weaponry to Kiev
    25 JANUARY 2023



    This is FLASH TRAFFIC: Konstantin Gavrilov, the head of the Russia Delegation to the Organization for Security and Coorperation in Europe (OSCE) has just publicly thrown down the nuclear gauntlet to the collective west, in an official statement:

    Gavrilov said that he has been instructed by his government to announce "We know that the Leopard-2 tank, as well as the Bradley and Marder infantry fighting vehicles, are armed with uranium-core armor-piercing projectiles, the use of which leads to [radioactive] contamination of the area, as happened in Yugoslavia and Iraq.

    If such shells are delivered to Kyiv, we will consider this as the use of dirty nuclear bombs against Russia, with all the ensuing consequences."

    It is a fact that the US and NATO do have Depleted Beryllium and Depleted Uranium ammunition which is used as "armor piercing" and "bunker busting" projectiles. None of these projectiles causes a nuclear chain reaction, so there is no nuclear blast from them. HOWEVER, when these particular projectiles strike their target, the metal used to make the projectiles (Uranium and/or Beryllium) is so dense, that it punches through whatever it hits. AS THAT HAPPENS, layers of the projectile disintegrate into highly radioactive powder which then travels by air, polluting entire areas for decades.

    In Afghanistan, when the US used such weapons against the hideouts of Osama Bin Laden, the projectiles went through hundreds of feet of rock in the mountains and shed layers of radioactive material as they penetrated. This radioactive powder then polluted the groundwater for miles inside Afghanistan, leading to contaminated wells, which then lead to horrifying birth defects in almost all pregnant women who drank the water.

    These effects have been deliberately concealed from US citizens by a compliant US media, but they occurred AND ARE STILL OCCURRING to this very day.

    Russia has just thrown down the nuclear gauntlet to the West.

    The probability of a now-Nuclear exchange - and outright nuclear war -- just got very, VERY, real.

    continue:

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...aponry-to-kiev

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Blinken concedes war is lost
    John Helmer
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    David Ignatius (lead image, left) has been a career-long mouthpiece for the US State Department. He has just been called in by the current Secretary of State Antony Blinken (right) to convey an urgent new message to President Vladimir Putin, the Security Council, and the General Staff in Moscow.

    For the first time since the special military operation began last year, the war party in Washington is offering terms of concession to Russia's security objectives explicitly and directly, without the Ukrainians in the way.


    The terms Blinken has told Ignatius to print appeared in the January 25 edition of the Washington Post. The paywall can be avoided by reading on.

    The territorial concessions Blinken is tabling include Crimea, the Donbass, and the Zaporozhe, Kherson "land bridge that connects Crimea and Russia". West of the Dnieper River, north around Kharkov, and south around Odessa and Nikolaev, Blinken has tabled for the first time US acceptance of "a demilitarized status" for the Ukraine. Also, US agreement to restrict the deployment of HIMARS, US and NATO infantry fighting vehicles, and the Abrams and Leopard tanks to a point in western Ukraine from which they can "manoeuvre...as a deterrent against future Russian attacks."

    This is an offer for a tradeoff - partition through a demilitarized zone (DMZ) in the east of the Ukraine in exchange for a halt to the planned Russian offensive destroying the fortifications, rail hubs, troop cantonments, and airfields in the west, between the Polish and Romanian borders, Kiev and Lvov, and an outcome Blinken proposes for both sides to call "a just and durable peace that upholds Ukraine's territorial integrity".

    Also in the proposed Blinken deal there is the offer of a direct US-Russian agreement on "an eventual postwar military balance"; "no World War III"; and no Ukrainian membership of NATO with "security guarantees similar to NATO's Article 5."

    Blinken has also told the Washington Post to announce the US will respect "Putin's tripwire for nuclear escalation", and accept the Russian "reserve force includ[ing] strategic bombers, certain precision-guided weapons and, of course, tactical and strategic nuclear weapons."

    Read on, very carefully, understanding that nothing a US official says, least of all through the mouths of Blinken, Ignatius, and the Washington Post is trusted by the Russians


    continue: https://www.sott.net/article/476685-...es-war-is-lost

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    WTF?


    It makes absolute sense that this person from the "Green Party" is talking about a war and flushing more gasoline into the fire.

    Its not a secret that the german green party is connected more close than any other party in germany to the united states, many of their upcoming politicans worked for partner programs with US companys before they got their positions.

    joschka fischer for example even got a leading job at the CFR after his time at the german green party.
    It is a shame that practically brain-dead human beings like her can get a job like this. It is also a joke of history that the Green party used to be the pacifist party when they started in the eighties and are now the worst war mongerers.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Russia Aims to Surround Vuhledar, Missile Strike; West Mulls Giving Kiev Fighter Jets, Missiles


    "Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without the words and never stops at all."
    - - - - Emily Elizabeth Dickinson. 🪶💜

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