WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Ravenlocke]

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[thepainterdoug]

I was sent this by a high level Intel "abc" friend that this is a reliable assessment of the situation. Hopefully it wasn't already posted

https://strategic-culture.org/news/2...about-ukraine/

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
I was sent this by a high level Intel "abc" friend that this is a reliable assessment of the situation. Hopefully it wasn't already posted

https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/02/09/setting-record-straight-stuff-you-should-know-about-ukraine

Yes, that's all correct. The conflict was primed by the US back in 2014 (or arguably earlier). The neocons' strategic goal was to destroy Russia and its people once and for all.

And a personal note, recently echoed by many others. The neocons never give up on their destructive objectives. Now that it's recognized politically that Russia will overcome Ukraine militarily (and in so doing, pretty much destroy what's left of the country as a functioning nation state), the danger is heightened inasmuch as the neocons just might do something calamitous and insane to try to bring Russia down anyway.

If so, that wouldn't work either, as Russia has a superior, modern nuclear arsenal as well as the best missile defense in the world. And if Russia really was under that kind of all-or-nothing attack, then their very clear and published military doctrine states that they'd retaliate.

[grapevine]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
I was sent this by a high level Intel "abc" friend that this is a reliable assessment of the situation. Hopefully it wasn't already posted

https://strategic-culture.org/news/2...about-ukraine/

And yet the question should be asked; just why did Russia wait for eight years to attempt its special military operation? Was it perhaps because they witnessed the complete lash-up the west made of the Afghanistan withdrawal and knew they were in with more than a chance? Today, unsurprisingly, the UK mainstream news is reporting that this country is very low on ammunition.

And, perhaps slightly off topic but still relevant, Russia is also introducing Digital ID in 2024, which is a similar timeline to the west and other countries.

[BMJ]

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You can't ignore an added mod's note from a post, delete it, and then continue as if nothing had happened.

Please do take up whatever issue you feel you have by PM. Thanks.

[Jaak]

Posted by Miller (here)

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
I was sent this by a high level Intel "abc" friend that this is a reliable assessment of the situation. Hopefully it wasn't already posted

https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/02/09/setting-record-straight-stuff-you-should-know-about-ukraine

And yet the question should be asked; just why did Russia wait for eight years to attempt its special military operation? Was it perhaps because they witnessed the complete lash-up the west made of the Afghanistan withdrawal and knew they were in with more than a chance? Today, unsurprisingly, the UK mainstream news is reporting that this country is very low on ammunition.

And, perhaps slightly off topic but still relevant, Russia is also introducing Digital ID in 2024, which is a similar timeline to the west and other countries.

There is one topic on vigilantcitizen forum where there are dozens of examples that Russia is following the UN Agenda 2030 plan . Biometric surveilance,gene editing,going digital with everything,bug eating etc . They also playd along the covid scam and that putin's vax also had graphene oxide in it,just like all the other vaccines.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/th...den-eye.10549/
Some examples what path Russians are planning to take -

"...neurointerfaces (the exchange of information between the human brain and an electronic device) will be widely used in the field of healthcare, transport, and industry"

"the main task (of the Smart City-2030) is the development of human capital. A personal approach to providing medical care to citizens will be based on the analysis of data from patients' wearable devices... biometric and genetic parameters that will be processed using AI, ... the public educational environment will include distance learning programs and individual learning paths..."

"By 2030, Moscow should become a city where decision–making takes place on the basis of automatic processing and analysis of accumulated Big Data (data driven city – they can only translate from English - ed.)…

...all interaction of citizens, business and the city will be carried out in electronic form…

...the provision of public services for citizens and businesses will be carried out digitally on the basis of smart contract technology (have you not yet concluded a "smart contract" with the AI of the "state"? – ed.)..."

"Safe (!!!) unification of all (!!!) citizen's data on one platform... will allow automating and personalizing all services provided to a citizen"

"... gradual adaptation of the population to the new digital reality, ... formation of psycho-emotional perception of the new digital realities of life in the city"

"the formation of state programs will take place automatically..."

"electronic citizenship" includes the collection and storage of biometric data of residents/citizens..."

"... to monitor violations of the law in real time and write off a fine from the subject's account using data from sensors and photo and video recording systems ..., restrict a citizen in the use of urban goods and establish prohibitions, ... classify subjects and objects of control - the higher the danger of the subject, the higher the fine (and this is – hello, social rating – ed.)..."

"predicting both the behavior of individuals and the occurrence of specified events..."

"genetic passports of Muscovites ... with individual problematic defects that will serve as data sources for analysis (Gattaca is resting – ed.)..."

"round–the-clock monitoring of Muscovites' health through wearable wireless devices (and who will refuse - we will cut off oxygen? – ed.)..."

"...medical digital devices implanted in the body… Based on data on the lifestyle and health of Muscovites received from sensors, insurance companies will calculate the amount of insurance payments..."

"for the treatment of cognitive and other disorders, nanorobots will be used – devices the size of a blood cell functioning inside a person (not loyal to the new normality? Kindly launch a nanorobot into your body so that it cures your "disorder" – ed.)..."

"gene therapy and genome editing will become an integral part of the medicine of the future..."

"biometric technologies... will become a common alternative to traditional payment tools..."

"In 2030, 100% of Moscow's territory will be covered by 5G wireless networks..."

[Tintin]

Better news here, and something I'd rather hoped was happening - it may be the only way now to speed things toward some sort of conclusion/resolution eventually:

Source: Russian MFA

Text:

⚡️ The people of Ukraine are awakening to the reality, realizing that they've been duped and deceived into becoming cannon fodder used against Russia.

This process has already begun: Ukrainian POWs formed Bogdan Khmelnitsky volunteer battalion to fight Kiev's neo-Nazi regime.

[Tintin]

Posted by BMJ (here)

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by BMJ (here)
I was being helpful and in response you take a shot at me, that speaks to your character shaberon.

Rewind.

I have simply asked that on any claims of legal realities, such as court decisions, ownership, or Presidential States of Emergencies, that it is backed up by some kind of documentation which we could verify.

You posted a broad-sweeping statement aimed at "the Rothschilds" and said "you trust it".

It came from Qanon, which, I at least do not trust, since all I know is that it caused a great disturbance here when the material was posted.

How was it helpful and what exactly is the "shot" I took?

"I" have to do the "legwork" to figure out ownership of the Peoples' Bank of Cambodia, because you are not going to "spoonfeed" me?

Who is using the emotional buzzwords here??

Again, I would like to submit that this is a normative Avalon forum request, that if you pass along something as a legal fact, that it is accompanied, at least, by something, to represent this.

I will easily agree that "privatized central banking" is a regressive moral crime, but, at the end of the day, I rarely know exactly "who" owns something. And yes, there are extant studies which have already done legwork to show the relatively small numbers of owners of interlocking directorates that manage most of our resources.

Nothing personal mate. If anything, I am reflecting the view of having taken part in numerous investigations, including ones done by the likes of FBI and Secret Service. Consequently, useful or admissible evidence has a certain bar of entry above rumor and hearsay. I have taken the same crack at some of the recent reports--they say that Cargill and other western companies own 46% of Ukraine's agricultural land. But it has not been backed up by documentation.

Correspondingly, it may be easier to show that since 2014, numerous legal protections on Ukrainian labor and medical procedures have simply been repealed. That really does set the stage for the exploitation we are seeing now, although it is a step shy of telling us what, exactly, Cargill or any other western interest actually owns there.

You have been coming at me like a dog with a bone and making a mountain out of a molehill. Are you OK?

So instead of spending your time doing something constructive, you have gone away for several days to formulate a response and an attack on my post.

I ask because your post is not useful or constructive in anyway. The sole purpose of your post is to make it seem like your an " authority on the matter " and then cause issues, dislike and division here in this forum.

Yet again that speaks to your character shaberon, the picture I am starting to get of you is a nasty, vindictive and small-minded individual.

If that's not the case.

Then considering that you may have taken part in investigations with the FBI and Secret Service as you claim, are you an "agent" of the FBI, CIA or Secret Service tasked with causing issues and target individuals here in this forum?

Chaps, please: you are both highly valued here and your contributions so often very high-calibre. Please do try and calm things down between you - you can do it

I'd appreciate that hugely. I sense a more than resolvable mis-understanding here please, and

[Vicus]

West created ‘Nazi paradise’ in Ukraine to fight Russians – Dugin 4 Mar, 2023

Kiev’s backers, however, ultimately don’t believe it will win, the political philosopher said

The West has fostered the creeping “nazification” of Ukraine in order to make its people hostile to Russia, political philosopher and author Aleksandr Dugin has told RT. In an exclusive interview aired on Saturday, he said that Kiev’s backers have tried to hide from their own citizens the growing tolerance of nationalists and neo-Nazis in the country.

“The West thinks in such a manner: We could not create artificial nationalism in Ukraine and push Ukrainians to fight Russians [any other way],” Dugin said.

“For a traditional society, liberal values cannot be the goal to defend. So they need something [else]. The most radical [tool] to create and promote this artificial pseudo-consciousness is nationalism … or Ukrainian Russophobic fascism. And it is being used by the [globalist] liberals.”

Dugin said the West supported radicals in Kiev, despite cracking down on similar groups at home. “They destroy any kind of nationalism on their [own] territories. But in Ukraine, on the other hand, they make it flourish.” In the end, “a Nazi paradise” has been created in Ukraine, he claimed.

According to Dugin, such an approach will ultimately lead to the destruction of the Ukrainian state. “I don’t think they seriously believe in the possible victory of Ukraine,” he stated.

Ukraine’s Azov Battalion is among the units that welcomes fighters with openly nationalist and neo-Nazi views. Ukrainian soldiers have repeatedly been filmed and photographed bearing Nazi insignia and tattoos. Russian President Vladimir Putin listed “denazification” as one of the objectives of the military operation Moscow launched in the neighboring state a year ago.

Last year, Dugin’s daughter, journalist Darya Dugina, was killed by a bomb planted under the car she was driving. Moscow said Ukrainian agents were behind the assassination. Kiev denied its involvement. Nevertheless, the New York Times later reported that US intelligence officials believe that the Ukrainian authorities had authorized the attack.

https://www.rt.com/russia/572443-dug...nazi-paradise/

plus video !

[Vicus]

Russian defense minister outlines importance of key Donbass city 7 Mar, 2023

Taking control of Artymovsk would allow offensive actions deep into the Ukrainian armed forces’ positions, Sergey Shoigu said



Russia continues its efforts to take control of Artyomovsk –known in Ukraine as Bakhmut– Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu announced on Tuesday, noting that the city is an important defense hub for Kiev’s forces in Donbass.


“Taking [Artyomovsk] under control will allow further offensive actions deep into the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,” he explained.

Artyomovsk has seen some of the most brutal fighting amid Russia’s ongoing military campaign in Ukraine. As well as being a stronghold for Ukraine’s forces, the city is part of a 70-kilometer line of defense created by Kiev since it initiated the fighting in Donbass in 2014.

In a months-long campaign, Russian forces have systematically captured settlements around the city and have been surrounding Artyomovsk from the north, south, and east.

Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, meanwhile, has repeatedly insisted that he would not surrender the city, despite his Western backers and military advisers reportedly urging him to cut his losses and withdraw.

Shoigu also reported on Tuesday that Russian forces have liberated the settlements of Nikolaevka, Dvurechnoe, Krasnaya Gora, Gryanikovka and Paraskovievka, and stated that the “American strategy of ‘breaking Russia by force of arms’” had failed.

“Western countries are increasing the supply of weapons and military equipment to Ukraine, expanding training programs for Ukrainian army personnel,” said Shoigu. “At the same time, the support of the Kiev regime by NATO countries is not leading to the success of Ukrainian troops on the battlefield,” he added, noting that Kiev’s losses have significantly increased.

According to the minister, in February alone the casualties suffered by Ukraine's armed forces increased by more than 40% compared to January and amounted to over 11,000 servicemen.

“In this regard, the Kiev regime’s indifference towards its people is surprising” Shoigu noted, adding that Kiev doesn’t seem to care how many people die for the benefit of its Western backers.

Russia’s priority, on the other hand, remains the preservation of the life and health of personnel and civilians, the minister stressed.


https://www.rt.com/russia/572581-rus...sk-importance/

[Ravenlocke]

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[Ravenlocke]

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[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://twitter.com/LogKa11/status/1633068758225780741

Does Russia have an equivalent? Yes.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAB-1500S-E

The KAB-1500S-E is a precision guided bomb, part of KAB-1500 family, designed for the Russian Federation Air Force (RFAF) to carry out precision attacks, using 24-channel GLONASS and is equivalent to the United States Air Force (USAF) Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) family of Global Positioning System (GPS) guided weapons.