WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Bruce G Charlton]

Replying to chrifri and rgray222 - I regard this mortal world as engaged in a spiritual war between good and evil; and with 'The West' (i.e. the controlling leadership class) as (very obviously!) operating on the side of supernatural evil - as agents of the demonic powers.

The nature of their plans of the Western-based totalitarian global establishment for humanity have been made perfectly explicit. They will stop at nothing to impose their will; and are engaged in destroying all possible sources of opposition to their plans.

The current priority is to destroy Russia - wipe out the nation and its Orthodox Christian religion, loot its resources, leave most of its people to die. These plans are explicit at the highest level - and can be confirmed by observation. (...then the same for China.)

I am grateful that Russia have decided to resist this fate - in many respects they are operating on behalf of all Men who desire to avoid tortured-enslavement, and indeed who desire to retain their basic humanity. If Russia win, it will be a significant setback to the plans of the evil-serving totalitarians.

Russia have gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid this war, and for many months to minimize destruction of civilians and resources - but, because of the hyper-aggressive (and consistently dishonest) response have been compelled to increase the severity of the war (or else be defeated).

This is an existential struggle for the future of Mankind. Of course such a war may end with Both sides being corrupted - but so far (as far as I can tell) that is not the case: there is a side of definite-evil, and there is a side that aims mostly for good objectives.

For those who believe in a life beyond this life, there is a larger perspective in which it is vital to discern good from evil, to reject the side of evil and sustain those who aim at good. This should be more fundamental than the (natural) short-term desire to avoid suffering and death.

But to hold this line requires courage in service to love - and, however feeble we may personally be in these respects (and I fear I may prove deficient), *that* is what we ought to aim-for, and repent when we fail to achieve it.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
Replying to chrifri and rgray222 - I regard this mortal world as engaged in a spiritual war between good and evil; and with 'The West' (i.e. the controlling leadership class) as (very obviously!) operating on the side of supernatural evil - as agents of the demonic powers.

The nature of their plans of the Western-based totalitarian global establishment for humanity have been made perfectly explicit. They will stop at nothing to impose their will; and are engaged in destroying all possible sources of opposition to their plans.

The current priority is to destroy Russia - wipe out the nation and its Orthodox Christian religion, loot its resources, leave most of its people to die. These plans are explicit at the highest level - and can be confirmed by observation. (...then the same for China.)

I am grateful that Russia have decided to resist this fate - in many respects they are operating on behalf of all Men who desire to avoid tortured-enslavement, and indeed who desire to retain their basic humanity. If Russia win, it will be a significant setback to the plans of the evil-serving totalitarians.

Russia have gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid this war, and for many months to minimize destruction of civilians and resources - but, because of the hyper-aggressive (and consistently dishonest) response have been compelled to increase the severity of the war (or else be defeated).

This is an existential struggle for the future of Mankind. Of course such a war may end with Both sides being corrupted - but so far (as far as I can tell) that is not the case: there is a side of definite-evil, and there is a side that aims mostly for good objectives.

For those who believe in a life beyond this life, there is a larger perspective in which is is vital to discern good from evil, to reject eth side of evil and sustain those who aim at good. This should be more fundamental than the (natural) short-term desire to avoid suffering and death.

But to hold this line requires courage in service to love - and, however feeble we may personally be in these respects (and I fear I may prove deficient), *that* is what we ought to aim-for, and repent when we fail to achieve it.

100% perfectly stated. I was grappling with how I might somehow say something similar, but you beat me to it and did a far better job than I feel I could.

[Gwin Ru]

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... what if... the real goal is to weaken the US, Western Europe and Russia to oblivion just for China's CCP to scoop up the remaining choice morsels?

In the mean time:

Georgia 'lost chance for sovereignty' - Moscow

RT
Fri, 10 Mar 2023 18:16 UTC

Georgian opposition supporters rally in Tbilisi, March 9, 2023 © Vano Shlamov / AFP

The US opposed Georgia's "foreign agents" bill because Washington does not want the country to have political sovereignty, Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the State Duma, the lower house of Russia's parliament, said on Friday.

He argued that the legislation, which was withdrawn after protests and clashes with police in Tbilisi, was aimed at limiting Washington's ability to meddle in Georgia's affairs.

"Washington has used the tools of soft power to lead people to the streets. The Georgian authorities were forced to submit - not to the will of the people, but to the United States," Volodin claimed in a post in his Telegram channel.

The politician said the bill was "unacceptable for the US" because it would have "restricted Washington's influence on the country's internal political affairs."

"With its withdrawal by the parliament, Georgia has lost the chance for sovereignty," Volodin said.

On Friday, Georgian Dream and People's Power, two of the country's ruling parties, withdrew the Transparency of Foreign Influence Bill, also dubbed the 'Foreign Agents Law.' They said the bill had led to "divisions in society" and that its intent and purpose has been distorted by "a machine of lies."

The proposed law would have required individuals, NGOs and media outlets that receive 20% or more of their funding from abroad to register as "an agent of foreign influence" with the Georgian Justice Ministry, according to Reuters. Offenders would have faced fines and up to five years in prison for failing to comply.

The bill was condemned by Washington, the EU and NATO. US State Department spokesman Ned Price voiced concerns about "the potential implications of this law for freedom of speech and democracy in Georgia" and warned that its adoption "could potentially undermine Georgia's Euro-Atlantic integration."

Price later welcomed the decision to withdraw the draft law and urged MPs to "officially retract this bill and not to further this type of legislation."

Proponents of the bill argued that it resembled the US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), a 1938 law that requires individuals and organizations to register as "foreign agents." Opponents, however, claimed that the bill was inspired by a similar law in Russia that was passed in 2012.

[Gwin Ru]

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... I hadn't yet read the following article when I posted the intro to the post above...

China Foresees End Of Ukraine War This Summer: Report

by Tyler Durden
Saturday, Mar 11, 2023 - 04:20 AM

A fascinating new report in Nikkei Asia has unearthed and detailed the findings of an elite Chinese state-linked think tank which reports directly to the People's Liberation Army. Nikkei in the context of examining the timing and motives behind China's 12-point peace plan said that Chinese military experts are predicting the Russia-Ukraine war will end this summer.

To review, the 12-point plan urged implementation of a ceasefire and the resumption of negotiations toward a permanent peaceful settlement, and was unveiled on the one-year Feb.24 anniversary of the war. But the Nikkei report asserts there's specific rationale driving Beijing:

"The reason for China's sudden change can be traced back to a report issued two months earlier by a top think tank in Beijing."

"The Academy of Military Sciences [AMS] reports directly to the People's Liberation Army," Nikkei continues.

"Although it cannot be found on a map, the institution is located in Beijing's Haidian district, which itself is home to the ruins of Yuanmingyuan, a palace destroyed by Western armies in the 19th century."

Image source: Xinhua

The report goes on the detail how central and important the AMS is as a military think tank (a kind of 'Chinese Rand Corporation' in terms of influence), issuing recommendations directly to the Communist Party's Central Military Commission, which is the PLA's top decision-making body.

And here's where the Nikkei report gets most interesting...

In December, the AMS completed a simulation on the Ukraine conflict, resulting in an astonishing finding, according to sources close to the Chinese government. The war will draw to a close around summer 2023, the simulation indicated, with Russia having the upper hand.

Both the Russian and Ukrainian economies would be too exhausted to sustain the war past the summer, the report said.

It is possible that the results were skewed in favor of Russia to please China's Moscow-leaning leadership. But coincidentally, the $45 billion aid package passed last December in the U.S. is set to expire this summer too.

It should also be noted that Republican leadership in the GOP-dominated House has vowed to rein in the "blank check" approach to Ukraine, also amid even the Biden administration recently giving signals that the aid won't last forever. But, the consensus among Pentagon leadership has been that the Ukraine war could drag on for years.

Nikkei says that the think tank simulation led to the peace proposal gaining momentum in the halls of power in Beijing. "After hearing the AMS' prediction, Beijing crafted a peace proposal in time for the one-year anniversary of the war," the report reads. "It aims to achieve three goals, including the restoration of relations with Europe." These can be briefly summarized as follows:

• improved and closer Chinese political and economic relations with Europe
• preservation of friendly relations with Ukraine
• China emerging as the prime peacemaker between Moscow and Kiev

Should President Xi Jinping accept Putin's recent invitation to travel to Moscow, all of these things will be in play in what will be a highly watched visit, with Western governments closely scrutinizing every word to come out of it.

Some pundits have seen a major power like China getting involved in dialogue as crucial to kicking off real momentum...

Even though Washington quickly rejected that Beijing is honest player when it comes to peace, the most surprising reaction came from Kiev itself, it should be recalled:

Volodymyr Zelenskiy has cautiously welcomed China’s peace plan to end Russia’s invasion of Ukraine but said it would be acceptable only if it led to Vladimir Putin pulling his troops out from all occupied Ukrainian territory.

Speaking at a press conference in Kyiv to mark the first anniversary of Moscow’s full-scale attack, the Ukrainian president said he "wanted to believe" Beijing was interested in a "fair peace". That meant not "supplying weapons to Russia", he said, adding: "I’m doing my best to prevent that from happening. This is priority number one."

Moscow, as well as a few analysts in the West, have accused the United States and United Kingdom of seeking to sabotage peace. This is why the US and UK will likely remain cold regarding any Chinese efforts at a serious and lasting peace.

And Nikkei too comments,

"If China fails at becoming a peacemaker, the ramifications would undermine Xi's authority and prestige. It remains to be seen if the current leadership filled with Xi loyalists will be capable of a feat that requires complex negotiating skills and tenacious fortitude."

Again, this is all the more reason for Washington hawks to want to quash Beijing's efforts before they even get off the ground. But another prime question will be is how much sway will Xi hold with Putin when it comes to Ukraine?

[ExomatrixTV]

• Ukraine Puts NBC Reporter On “Kill List”:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iF8dsxWUBkg

NBC reporter Keir Simmonds recently traveled to Crimea and reported back that the residents he spoke with were all perfectly happy for Crimea to remain in Russian hands, and they would even join the fight if Ukraine seeks to regain the territory. He also determined that Ukraine would face formidable – some might say insurmountable – obstacles in effecting a military takeover. And for reporting on these truths his reward was to be placed on the Ukrainians’ so-called “kill list.” Jimmy speaks with activist Jose Vega about the never-ending stream of propaganda we’re subjected to about the Ukraine War.

[Ravenlocke]

Russia Strikes Kyiv, Odesa & Kharkiv - Col Doug Macgregor

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6RBmMO5EKCg

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Russia Bakhmut Centre, Kinzhal Spooks Kiev/West, China Huge Political Coup as Iran Saudi Reconcile

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9hI23-XTjYo

[ExomatrixTV]

• Anti-War Activist Confronts Dem Leader Over Ukraine War:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PGdS_KkCF9Y

Activist Jose Vega has recently “gone viral” in videos showing him confronting Democratic Congressmen Hakeem Jeffries and Jamaal Bowman over their support for funding the Ukraine War and unwillingness to ask questions about the U.S.’s involvement in the Nord Stream pipeline bombing. Jimmy and Jose discuss his efforts to bring attention to the warmongers in office and hopes for a growing anti-war movement to help prevent a nuclear war.

1.6 Million views already!

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...37034517065728

[Vicus]

Warning! RANT! Prognoses???

Russia could? win the war in Summer...

What are we? a kindergartens bunch?

_ The technology of Russia was always superb!

T34 tanks and katiuskas that pulverize the 80% Nazi army! Leopards and Tiger tanks came to late and there were
quick metal crap on the fields, late planes were superior in everything to German planes. K47 anybody?

don't let you fool from Nazi propaganda from the west! Russia won the war in WW2 in Europe!
When Normandy landings happens the soviets were already in Poland!
_ The soviets pay all this with 25/27 MILLONS corpse!

_2 years after Hiroshima they got their bomb too! Shock!

_ first satellite ever! and first man in orbit too!
U.S Moon "landing" until today is on debate!...

_ from cold war everybody here can remember the time lapses until hit the targets from soviet union to U.S. 30minutes...Cuba crisis...

In the eighties U.S. and NATO deployed Pershing missiles in Europe where the time lapse went to 15 minuets to Moscow.

_ 2014 a U.S. destroyer "Donald Cook" or something parade on the Black See to show... what? (imagine a Russian destroyer in front Miami...)
Russia respond: 1 plane "play" attack and disrupt ALL electronics on board! (EMP) converting Donald in a sitting duck!
After that most of the crew solicited staying out of service because nerves breakdown...

_2015 the world watch for the first time the ride to oblivion Islamic terrorist in Syria through Hypersonic missiles been shooting from Black See!

_2022 U.S. call Latino America his backyard...well, Ukraine is Russia backyard ! do you think they need something special? in few weeks they stand outside Kiev! and all that only with 150000 man power!
After all the "interventions" from U.S. army where country after country was bombed into oblivion with civil population inclusive, sofa warriors are boring in front TV ! why take so long!
when Russia were U.S. Ukraine today were a Moon panoramic...Russia just don't wanted that that's all!

_2023 watch this: https://greatgameindia.com/shelter-nuclear-war/

Cuba crisis? 30 minute to oblivion? that was 60 years ago! now you only got minutes ... and for Europe jeezzz...
for example : to Berlin its take less than 3 minutes!

Question! for all sofa warriors out there... what do you think U.S would do with such technology?

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1634479595310268418

[Ravenlocke]

(Early on in this thread, from what I remember, there are posts about the “Tornado” battalion, which is comprised of convicts that had been in jail for murder and rape crimes even with small children before the start of this proxy war with Russia.)

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1634514059184726018

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1634514070861643776

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/sta...36594038759428

https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/st...19356108222465

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/...52822425731074

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/apocalypseos/sta...56855040622592

https://twitter.com/apocalypseos/sta...64347485233153

https://twitter.com/apocalypseos/sta...65092435550208

[Tintin]

A cartoon emerged recently called Ukraine Inc. which, in the tried and tested formula of artistic media done well, is searingly accurate in its depiction:

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...09566852419584

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1635009545121697792

The Duran 16 minute update on what’s developing in Ukraine with the 50 - 60 thousands AFU trying to break the Bakhmut cauldron.

Betting it all on Bakhmut breakthrough

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GbySE-sgTmo

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https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/stat...96769145913346

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...96129665519616

[ExomatrixTV]

• How to make a deal with Vladimir Putin | Chris Voss and Lex Fridman

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GnFipgvZ8Ok

[ExomatrixTV]

• Russia: US Biolabs Still Working on Dangerous Pathogens in Ukraine

• dutch 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

• David Icke in 2015 Predicted the Illuminati Agenda for Russia and Ukraine 100%

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=shQ1sn9nETk

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• Zelensky & Ukraine Exposed, The Biggest Lie of 2023 Will Make Your Blood Boil:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aeMRcNUpbIU

Very few people are aware of what you are going to see that shows the real face of Zelensky and his purpose. This video scratches the surface on this actor & puppet Zelensky. We are living in an era where the big anti-truths are being used to destroy our future. Topics in this video cover Russia, Ukraine, Zelensky, Putin, NATO, Jimmy Dore, Joe Rogan & more.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oBRUDSY66tY