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    Ukraine Peace Talks - A Grown Up Is Taking Charge

    The U.S. is unwilling to yet give up in its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine. Russia can not stop the war without securing its legitimate interest to keep NATO and/or the U.S. out of its neighbor state. A loss of the war would create an existential danger for Russia.

    With the two major powers engaged in a war a third party is needed to solve the conflict.

    In the spring of last year Turkey and Israel successfully helped to find a peace agreement. A good solution was found and Russia as well as Ukraine agreed to it. But the U.S. needed the war to continue. It sent the British prime minister Boris Johnson to Kiev to sabotage the deal. The Ukrainian president was told that the country would lose all 'western' support should it sign an agreement with Russia.

    As the somewhat neutral middle powers were unable to push any agreement through it became obvious that a third party with more heft was needed to seal a deal.

    The time of moving towards a deal also needed to be right. On February 24, exactly a year after the war had started, China announced its Position on the Political Settlement of the Ukraine Crisis. This was not a peace plan but a lay out of things that will need to be understood and done to come to a sustainable solution of the crisis.

    A months later China took the next step that will be needed in the process. It introduced a high ranking diplomat who will hold the preliminary talks in Ukraine and Russia to find the potential ways to proceed. The announcement was made after a phone call between the presidents Xi and Zelensky:

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he held a “long and meaningful call” with Chinese President Xi Jinping on Wednesday, a long-anticipated first contact between the leaders since Russia’s invasion 14 months ago.
    Xi appealed for negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv to begin, according to a Chinese government readout of the call, which Beijing said Zelenskyy requested.

    Xi pledged to send a "special representative" to Ukraine for talks about a "political settlement" — warning that "there is no winner in a nuclear war."

    China hopes to become a neutral peace broker in the conflict, although the U.S. and others have questioned its impartiality given a "no limits" partnership in which it has lent Moscow rhetorical and financial support.

    I am not aware of any 'financial support' by China to Russia as NBC News is claiming here. Even U.S. intelligence says that Russia does not need more money to continue the war:

    U.S. intelligence holds that Russia will be able to fund the war in Ukraine for at least another year, even under the heavy and increasing weight of unprecedented sanctions, according to leaked U.S. military documents.
    China' readout on the call alludes to the previous proposal and offers to build on it:

    With rational thinking and voices now on the rise, it is important to seize the opportunity and build up favorable conditions for the political settlement of the crisis. It is hoped that all parties would seriously reflect on the Ukraine crisis and jointly explore ways to bring lasting peace and security to Europe through dialogue. China will continue to facilitate talks for peace and make its efforts for early ceasefire and restoration of peace. China will send the Special Representative of the Chinese Government on Eurasian Affairs to Ukraine and other countries to have in-depth communication with all parties on the political settlement of the Ukraine crisis. China has sent multiple batches of humanitarian assistance to Ukraine and will keep providing help to the best of its ability.
    The Chinese special representative for Eurasian affairs is Lu Hui, a very senior diplomat.

    He has held several positions in China's embassies in Moscow and Astana as well as within China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

    In 2008-2009 Mr. Liu Hui served as a deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the PRC.
    From August 2009 to August 2019 he served as an Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the People's Republic of China to the Russian Federation.

    Ukraine's readout of the call does not mention the envoy. The U.S. response to the announcement of an envoy was designed to put China's efforts into doubt:

    John Kirby, the National Security Council's coordinator for strategic communications, said the U.S. welcomed the call as a "good thing."
    "We’ve been saying for quite some time that we believe it’s important for President Xi and PRC officials to avail themselves of the Ukrainian perspective on this illegal and unprovoked invasion by Russia," Kirby told reporters, referring to China by the initials for its formal name, the People's Republic of China.

    Earlier, Kirby, told NBC News, "We will let these two leaders speak to the details of their conversation."

    A senior administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it was "way too soon after just getting word of this conversation to speculate about" whether the call should foster optimism about China's peace plan.

    "Thus far, China has not shown itself to be unbiased when it comes to supporting Russia," the official said.

    I have no doubt that Li Hui will do his best to achieve some progress in talks with Ukraine and Russia. His most difficult task is to bring the U.S. on board of any potential solution.

    But with more doubts coming up over Kiev's ability to successfully launch the announced counteroffensive being voiced every day the mood in Washington may well be changing.

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    • Putin JUST SHUTDOWN All Oil To The US, Collapsing The US Economy! with Clayton Morris:

    Clayton Morris joins us to discuss Putin shutting down all oil to the US with oil sanctions collapsing the US economy in this breaking news update.

    It seems Russia has been able to bypass sanctions from United States, taking some of its market share with the help of Brazil, and bypass the European Union with the assistance of Iraq, which will all be revealed in today's video. Russian diesel exports saw their highest volume month on record in March, despite more restrictions on Moscow's energy supplies, according to commodities analytics firm Kieppler. Since Vladimir Putin launched his war on Ukraine, the US, Europe, and other Western nations have imposed a range of sanctions on Russia. In February, the European Union banned imports of refined Russian fuels, including diesel, after banning seaborne crude oil imports in December. Still, Russia's oil and diesel export volumes remain elevated amid steep discounts.

    In fact, crude oil shipments are back above pre-war levels thanks to China and India, and Russian diesel exports hit a record 27 million barrels a day in March, Kieppler data shows.

    But whereas crude exports have largely consolidated into a small number of large buyers, the opposite has happened for Russian diesel exports, Kieppler lead oil analyst Matt Smith said. Trade flows for diesel have sprung up into many North African countries, while other key exporters such as Turkey and Saudi Arabia have increasingly imported Russian diesel in recent months given advantageous pricing, he said. Some nations, like India and China, have been ramping up imports of Russian supplies only to resell them. Overall, Russian diesel is displacing traditional suppliers as trade flows change to make up for the loss of exports to the European market, he added.

    It's a game of musical chairs and one we've seen play out already with other Russian products such as fuel oil, the analyst said. Brazil, for example, imported effectively zero Russian diesel all the way up to the end of 2022, with most of its supplies coming from the US and other sellers, according to Kieppler data. The US sent roughly 150,000 barrels a day of diesel to Brazil in December 2022, but that has dropped by about 50% in April. Brazil's diesel imports from Russia, meanwhile, surged to almost 100,000 barrels a day this month, even though the US is a much closer trade partner than Russia, suggesting Brazil is able to get cheaper supplies despite the longer distance. Smith said Kieppler isn't privy to the pricing involved, but the data illustrate that the economics work for both Russia and Brazil. If it was just the odd cargo, it could be suggested that Brazil is the destination of last resort when Russia is unable to sell its diesel to anyone else, but the volumes delivered in the last three months suggest something more regular and more of a trend.

    It really does appear that Russian diesel is muscling in on US market share in Brazil. Europe loses out on Russian crude. Europe's oil refiners, already making do without long-standing shipments of Russian crude, are now struggling with the loss of similar supplies from northern Iraq and a shock reduction in output by several of the world's top producer nations. Flows from Russia, formerly the European Union's top supplier, have plummeted by more than a million barrels a day since the country's invasion of Ukraine in February of last year, amid ever-tightening sanctions. Those reductions are now starting to bite harder because Iraq has halted shipments that reach Europe via a Turkish port in the Mediterranean Sea.
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    Clayton Morris joins us to discuss Putin and Iran announcing what will destroy all US & EU sanctions in this breaking news update.

    Russia and Iran are building a new transcontinental railway trade route stretching from the eastern edge of Europe to the Indian Ocean, a 3,000-kilometer passage that's beyond the reach of any foreign intervention. And for the first time ever, fuel-by-rail exports have been launched to Iran after the West banned seaborne imports of fuels from Russia over Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

    The two countries are spending billions of dollars to speed up the delivery of cargo along rivers and railways linked by the Caspian Sea. Ship-tracking data compiled by Bloomberg show dozens of Russian and Iranian vessels, including some that are subject to sanctions, already plying the route. It's an example of how great power competition is rapidly reshaping trade networks in a world economy that looks set to fragment into rival blocs. Russia and Iran, under tremendous pressure from sanctions, are turning toward each other, and they're both looking eastward, too. The goal is to shield commercial links from Western interference and build new ones with the giant and fast-growing economies of Asia.

    This is about establishing sanctions-proof supply chains all the way through. The emerging trade corridor would allow Russia and Iran to shave thousands of kilometers off existing routes. At its northern end is the Sea of Azov, which is bracketed by the Crimean Peninsula, Ukraine's southeastern coast, including the Russian-occupied port of Mariupol and the mouth of the River Don. Earlier this month, listing his country's gains from the war in Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin said the Sea of Azov has become an inland sea for Russia. From there, river, sea, and rail networks extend to Iranian hubs on the Caspian Sea and ultimately the Indian Ocean.

    Putin has flagged the importance of that end of the corridor as well. At an economic forum in September, he underlined the need to develop the ship, rail, and road infrastructure along the route That will provide Russian companies with new opportunities to enter the markets of Iran, India, the Middle East, and Africa, and will facilitate supplies from these countries in return. Shagina estimates Russia and Iran are investing as much as $25 billion in the inland trade corridor, helping to facilitate the flow of goods the West wants to stop. The two countries are playing a cat-and-mouse game, she says.

    They will explore all loopholes to transport banned products and weapons. That alarms the U. S. and its allies as they seek to block transfers of Iranian drones and other military supplies they say are aiding the Kremlin's war in Ukraine. Here's what Biden had to say about this.
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    Ukraine attempted to assassinate Russia's Putin via drone - report

    The attack was supposed to be carried out during a visit by Putin outside of the Russian capital, but the drone crashed before reaching him.

    The Ukrainian Secret Service attempted to assassinate Russian President Vladimir Putin with a drone, but the attack failed when the drone crashed before reaching him, German newspaper Bild reported on Thursday.

    The report cites a recent tweet by the Chief Editor of the Ukrainian website Khvilya, Yuriy Romanenko, who reportedly has ties to Ukrainian intelligence sources.

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    According to Romanenko, Ukraine used a drone of the UJ-22 type, which has a range of up to 800 km and was equipped with 17 kg of explosives. The drone managed to fly over the border and pass by Russia's air defense systems.

    Putin's visit outside the capital

    The drone was meant to explode and kill Putin during a visit to the Rudnevo industrial park near the capital of Moscow.

    "Last week, our intelligence officers received information about Putin's trip to the industrial park in Rudnevo. I even managed to get a map of the trip around the park. This information was indirectly confirmed by Putin's personal correspondent Zarubin in his telegram," Romanenko wrote. "Accordingly, we launched a kamikaze drone, which flew through all the air defenses of the Russian Federation, and fell not far from the industrial park."

    According to Bild, private Russian media confirmed a drone crash in a village east of Moscow, close to the Rudnevo industrial park.

    Alleged pictures of the drone show explosive charges of the M112 type, which is also used by the US and Canadian military.

    There was no comment from the Russian side, but passersby uploaded videos to Twitter on Sunday, which might show possible preparations for a visit by Putin.

    Ukraine in the past repeatedly attempted to strike targets in Russian territory, frequently using drones.

    In February, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he believes that Russian President Vladimir Putin will eventually be killed by a member of his inner circle.

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    • NY Times & WashPo Editors CONFRONTED Over Ukraine War Lies!

    Antiwar activist Jose Vega is well on his way to becoming a legendary disruptor of the war machine. His latest target: an event at Columbia Journalism School featuring some of the news media’s top editors talking about anything BUT the Nord Stream pipeline bombing and the ongoing perilous dance with World War III.

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    This is quite graphic, but there's no action here, and no close up detail. It's only disturbing in what it implies.

    A Russian drone camera scans the Ukrainian trenches from a distant height of maybe 500 feet. But one can easily see what are obviously many dozens, maybe hundreds, of bodies that are just lying there not moving. There's simply no-one left alive.

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    • Tucker Carlson on Ukraine War - April 24, 2023:

    Last year, Tucker Carlson joined Freddy Gray on SpectatorTV. As he leaves Fox, we're reposting the discussion, which covered everything from the war in Ukraine to why Tucker is a self-confessed extremist about drywall.

    Tucker Carlson joins Freddy Gray on SpectatorTV February 1st, 2022 in a conversation that covers everything from Vladimir Putin's intentions in Eastern Europe to Tucker's dislike for overhead lighting.

    Asked why he's against an American intervention in Ukraine, Tucker says: 'We’re already funding a proxy war. So why would we be doing that? I mean, is there a vital American interest that serves?

    'Perhaps there is. I haven't heard anyone explain it.

    'And they go immediately to "you're working for Vladimir Putin" or something. I have limited interest in Vladimir Putin. I've never been to Russia. I don't speak Russian! Much less Ukrainian.'

    On China, Tucker says: 'China is a problem that is very hard for the United States to solve. It's not clear how we do solve that problem.

    'By problem, I mean, sort of giving hegemony over the world to a country that doesn't believe anything, really, that we believe.

    'It would be a massive change in the way the world operates, in the way that we in the United States live, in the way that you in Great Britain live.'
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    • War Machine THRILLED To See Tucker Carlson Go:

    The two groups dancing with the greatest glee over Tucker Carlson’s departure from the airwaves are liberals and, well, the Pentagon. With Carlson gone, that leaves essentially zero Ukraine War critics on cable news, so it should come as no surprise that upper level military brass are celebrating a Tucker-free media landscape. Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger talk to special guest Jimmy Dore about another high-profile celebrant over Carlson’s departure — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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    • Where U.S Weapons For Ukraine Are REALLY Going! w/ Sy Hersh:

    The rampant corruption in Ukraine is no secret, but now more details are emerging about just how little of the U.S. tax dollars sent to Ukraine are winding up in grifters’ pockets. Journalist Seymour Hersh has uncovered evidence that a substantial portion of military hardware sent to Ukraine winds up being sold on the black market.

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    The Bild publication, citing its sources, writes that when crossing the Dnieper , the Armed Forces of Ukraine intend to use small operational special forces on kayaks.

    “They are silent and small in size, difficult to see at night. A special coating is applied on board so that they cannot be detected by a night vision device, ” says BILD.

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