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    Western client Media, like
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    recently reported on the so called "Free Russians" fighting alongside their western funded and armed #Ukrainian hosts who are launching what can only be objectively described as terror attacks against civilians in #Belgorod #Russia.

    Its time for a dose of reality about these Neo Nazi "Heroes" that were banned and ejected from Russia due to their hateful, racist and Nazi ideology but found an enthusiastic welcome in #Zelenskys NATO funded and armed #Ukraine

    These so called 'Ethnic Russians' styling themselves as "The Freedom of Russia Legion" and the "Russian Volunteer Corps" have been painted in an exclusive DW report as "Russians looking establish a state for all to live in peace with surrounding nations", this delusional narrative ignores the fact that these self proclaimed, numerically irrelevant "Legions", who openly describe themselves as Nazis, have been volunteering themselves as cannon fodder for almost a decade while fighting alongside the morally repellent Azov, Aidar and Tornado battalions in eastern Ukraine.

    These widely reviled terrorists attack civilians in Russian territories, such as the ongoing shelling and targeting of civilians in the region of #Belgorod.

    Lets be absolutely clear, here in Russia the vastly overwhelming sense amongst ordinary people is that these hateful societal rejects have long lost the right to call themselves Russian, its to be expected that the DW report fails to call them out on who they really are - Nazis,

    Its also unsurprising that the DW report also fails to point out that these noble "Legions" which in reality consist of a couple of hundred disaffected racists and psychopath's, consists of representatives from the recently formed Ukrainian national guard regiment #Azov, and Right Sector (both known far right racist stalwarts of the Kiev regime) and both of which coincidentally are neo-Nazi organisations that have been banned and recognised as terrorists in #Russia.

    Another convenient omission by the fawning German channel is their widely recognised links to the Ukrainian intelligence services. So, are they really Russians? Well, the majority of those actually flying the Russian volunteer corps banner are not actually Russian at all, take Ukrainian Sonechko Batallion commander, Ruslan Kahanec, for example, this is the man who posted images on Instagram confirming that his unit attacked the Belgorod region. And what about the notorious head of the “Russian Volunteer Corps”, Denis Kapustin, a notorious neo-Nazi who is banned from entering Europe? well, he’s conveniently missing from the entire DW article romanticising the corps that he "commands" he founded the neo-Nazi fashion label “White Rex” and helped to organise the neo-Nazi martial arts scene throughout #Europe.

    So the next time the Western Media tells you that noble Russians are attacking Russia, or when Spokesman for the White House National Security Council, John Kirby, states that the US does not approve of its weapons and equipment being used in attacks or operations on Russian territory,

    Bear in mind what they and their client media want you to believe, bear in mind that they travel in American MaxxPro armoured vehicles and Humvees, that they carry American rifles, are paid by the CIA via their clients in Kiev and that the United states leaves its morality at the door when it chooses its allies to fight as their proxies..

    Particularly when their proxies target is a country that is redefining a global order dominated by the #USA and its Dollar.

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    The SRG that attacked the Belgorod region had weapons and equipment from the US, the Czech Republic and Belgium - Washington Post

    "Three MRAP mine-resistant armoured vehicles were provided by the US, one by Poland. At least two of them were seized by Russian forces. Rifles from the Czech Republic and Belgium and an anti-tank AT-4 used in the US and in the West were also used."- the publication notes.

    The Washington Post also said that this raises questions about Kiev's control over the situation.

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    MOD Reports:

    280 new units have been formed from the 300,000 mobilized last Autumn.

    It is described as the largest such callup in Russia’s history since WW2.



    Some thoughts on this, as an often asked question in chat has been, “where are the mobilized men?”

    At this point I think the answer is clear: they have been training and working behind the line of contact.
    That is, Russia did not simply scoop up 300,000 men and throw them to the front as Ukraine has been doing some 7+ times now, but actually formed an entirely new, professional Army with them

    It’s worth noting that the size of the entire U.S. Marine Corps is around 180,000 in total (including admin, clerical, maintenance, etc).

    This is yet another sign that Russia is in no hurry and is quite comfortable taking the time to properly re-train and equip these men and form new units proper.

    It should also be noted that this new army is cohesive. Same uniform, same training, same language, same communication, same doctrine - and a training regimen born from experience in the SVO.

    Meanwhile Ukrainian units are being trained in multiple countries by different instructors with multiple incongruent programs, doctrines, and kit.
    Ukraine itself is aware of this problem, which is why they have allocated Leopard tanks to one unit and Bradley IFVs to another and so forth, instead of mixing them up across the board.

    The problem for Ukraine nonetheless remains: a lack of consistency in doctrine and kit across units. There is no “universality” in such, and as such, Schroedinger’s Offensive remains in the box because these units cannot effectively coordinate together.

    Meanwhile, Russia now has a second modernized and cohesive Army formed in addition to the small portion of it’s existing Army already dedicated to the SVO.

    Where and how this new Army will be employed (defense in depth, counter offensive operations??) I can not say.
    But that MOD now makes this statement inclines me to believe the mobilized Army is increasingly ready for work.

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    The Ukrainian Military Is In Bad Shape
    June 03, 2023

    Erik Kramer and Paul Schneider are two former U.S. special operations soldiers who have been in Ukraine since 2022 to train Ukrainian troops.

    At War on the Rocks they paint a dark picture of the state of the Ukrainian military. Their intent is to get money for more training, thus the real picture may be less dark than they describe. But even if one takes that into account it is still a sad state for an army that has been at war for more than a year. Some excerpts:
    Based on our nine months of training with all services of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, to include the Ground Forces (Army), Border Guard Service, National Guard, Naval Infantry (Marines), Special Operations Forces, and Territorial Defense Forces, we have observed a series of common trends: lack of mission command, effective training, and combined arms operations; ad hoc logistics and maintenance; and improper use of special operations forces. These trends have undermined Ukraine’s resistance and could hinder the success of the ongoing offensive.
    What ongoing offensive?

    Under mission command, the German Auftragstaktik, the leader disseminates his intent ("to attack through the northern woods to take town x") and authority to subunits that is passed down with the mission to empower subordinates at all levels. Each subunits can make its plans to coordinate and execute the mission as best as possible. The contrast is an order command where every detail of execution is ordered from the top down. Both have advantages but to have a mixed system, as Ukraine currently has, is the worst of all places.
    In our experience, across many units and staffs, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not promote personal initiative and foster mutual trust or mission command. As Michael Kofman and Rob Lee recently discussed on the Russia Contingency podcast, elements of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have an old Soviet mentality that holds most decision-making at more senior levels. Amongst military leaders at the brigade level and below, our impression is that junior officers fear making mistakes.
    But to use mission command down to the lower levels of a Platoon one needs noncommissioned officers (sergeants) to run the show. Those the Ukrainian military had are by now probably dead:
    Having trained every component of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, we have continually seen a lack of an experienced noncommissioned officer corps. It is common to see field grade officers running around during training counting personnel and coordinating for meals. In the United States, it takes years to develop just a junior noncommissioned officer.
    The next big lack is combined arms training and use. Tanks protect the infantry, the infantry protects the tanks, the artillery covers the battlefield to allow tanks and infantry to maneuver, command takes care that all three coordinate their actions.
    The armor/infantry relationship is supposed to be symbiotic, but it is not. The result is that infantry will conduct frontal assaults or operate in urban areas without the protection and firepower of tanks. Also, artillery fires are not synchronized with maneuver. Most units do not talk directly to supporting artillery, so there is a delay in call for fire missions. We have been told that units will use runners to send fire missions to artillery batteries because of issues with communications.

    Most of the military’s operations are not phased and are sequential. Fires and maneuver, for example, are planned separately from infantry units — and infantry units plan separately from supporting artillery. This mentality also carries over to adjacent unit coordination, which is either nonexistent or rare and causes high rates of fratricide. Unit commanders have concerns about collaborators and thus are hesitant to pass on critical information that can be used against them to sister units.

    These issues are compounded by unreliable communications between units and with senior leadership. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have a hodgepodge of radios that are vulnerable to jamming. Further, battalion missions are mainly independent company operations that do not focus on a main effort coupled with supporting efforts. The armed forces do not combine effects, so operations are piecemeal and disjointed. The separate missions are not supporting each other, nor are the missions of lower level units “nested” under a higher level mission. Sustainment is not synchronized with operations, either.
    Due to the wild mix of weapons and for lack of trained mechanics logistics and the maintenance of equipment are a mess.
    This lack of coordinated maintenance and logistics also translates into medical care. Medical evacuation and care are haphazard. Experienced Ukrainian combat medics have repeatedly stated that many of the evacuees would have survived it they had reached definitive care in a timely manner. The Ukrainian Armed Forces can solve this issue with a systematic logistics process.
    Ukrainian special forces are mostly used as infantry even as they should be used for more demanding missions. There also are gimmick missions:
    Ukraine special forces units comprised of international volunteers shop around their services to conventional unit commanders without a mission being tied to a strategic or operational goal. One example of a mission was a conventional brigade commander who had reported to his command that he had occupied a village taken from the Russians. When he realized that the information he had was mistaken and they had stopped short, he asked the international special operations forces unit to go into the occupied village and take a picture of a Ukrainian flag placed on top of a building in the center of the village.
    A suicide mission to hide the commanders false reporting ...

    The authors claim that most of the above problems could be fixed by more 'western' training which they are more than willing to sell. However, what has become of the last armies 'western' forces have trained in Iraq and Afghanistan? Both fell apart. An army must reflect the local society and culture. It can not be formed top down by outside forces.

    Since 2015 the Ukrainian army has been build up and trained by U.S. and British forces. What the WotR authors describe is the result of that.
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    “We [the US] told the Russians in 1991 and 1992, repeatedly and in writing, although we didn’t sign a treaty, that if they withdraw the 400,000 troops from Germany and allow it to unite, then NATO will not move an inch to the East.

    Since then we have entered 14 countries in the East. Moreover, we have deployed AEGIS systems, with the option of nuclear missiles, in Romania and Poland. Right on the Russian border. Bill Burns, then ambassador to Russia and now director of the CIA, once wrote in his famous memo: "If you [NATO] enter Ukraine, you will cross a red line that cannot be crossed." All actions of US foreign policy pushed Russia to aggression" - Senator Robert Kennedy

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Since the morning, Ukrainian formations have been shelling the border areas of the Belgorod region .

    In the Shebekinsky urban district , residential buildings and a roadbed in Novaya Tavolzhanka and Bezlyudovka were hit: two women died, two more people were injured by shrapnel.

    In the Volokonovsky district, shell fragments shattered windows in three private residential households, and damaged a gas pipeline and power line on the outskirts of the village of Tishanka.

    Over the course of yesterday, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired on civilian objects in 18 settlements of the region: five civilians were killed, another 16 were injured of varying severity.

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Ukrainian formations continue to strike at border settlements in the Bryansk region of Russia .

    The Pogarsky district was under enemy fire: at least three rockets from the MLRS fell into the field.

    According to preliminary data, none of the civilians were injured. Sappers are working at the scene of the incident.

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    The Secretary of the Security Council of Ukraine said that Russian-speaking people "has no place in the country"

    MOSCOW, June 3. /TASS/. Another scandal broke out in Ukraine after Verkhovna Rada deputy Maxim Buzhansky refused to switch to Ukrainian on the air of one of the TV channels. Then Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) Alexei Danilov said that such people had no place in the country, promising to clean up.

    "Inconvenients <...> who believe that they have the right to speak Russian on the Ukrainian air have no place not only on television, but also in politics and in Ukraine," he wrote on Twitter. The Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council claims that such people "should and will be root cleaned and thrown out from everywhere."

    Danilov was born in Donbass, where Russian is his native language, he received higher education in Lugansk, where he began his career. Buzhansky, in turn, advised the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council to study the Constitution of Ukraine and the article of the Criminal Code on violation of equality of citizens depending on their race, nationality and other characteristics. "I would recommend Danilov <...> to learn to respect hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian servicemen and millions of Ukrainian citizens, Russian-speaking, exactly the same as Danilov himself, who in their native language are no less patriots of Ukraine than him," the deputy wrote in his own Telegram channel.

    The course of open displacement of the Russian language began to be held in Ukraine immediately after the coup d'état in February 2014, and in May 2019 Petro Poroshenko, who was then president, signed the law "On Ensuring the Functioning of the Ukrainian Language as a State Language" five days before the expiration of his powers. In accordance with this document, failure to comply with the law from July 16, 2022 entails a fine, which may be increased in case of repeated violation. The law obliges citizens to use the Ukrainian language in all spheres of public life, including public administration, medicine, science and education, media and websites. Since the beginning of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine, a campaign for total derussification has begun. Local authorities impose a complete ban on the use of the Russian language and its teaching in educational institutions.

    However, according to article 10 of the Constitution, the country "guarantees the free development, use and protection of the Russian language and other languages of national minorities of Ukraine."

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    Kiev has firmly closed the door to negotiations with Moscow and has no plans to open them, the Secretary of the Council for National Security and Defense of Ukraine, Alexei Danilov, told Rada television.

    "Not only have we closed the door, we have no plans to open it, it is very tightly closed." You know that there is a decision of the Council for National Security and Defense of Ukraine on that occasion - that we are not planning any negotiations with the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin," he said.

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    Brazil believes that Russia's concerns about Ukraine should be "taken into account".

    This was stated by Celso Amorim, chief foreign policy adviser to Brazil's president, in an interview with the British Financial Times.
    The idea of weakening Russia could have negative consequences similar to those of the Treaty of Versailles to fuel World War II.

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    Authorities in Dnepropetrovsk are already reporting that Iskander missiles have struck, but they are in no hurry to open bomb shelters

    There are probably no air defence systems in Dnepropetrovsk - civilians have nothing to fear.

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    10 minute episode. Looks like the collective west attempt to win over India and Brazil when the G7 was in Japan, has failed.

    Modi and Lula, done dealing with Zelensky. BRICS new currency


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    $12 TRILLION — that’s the estimated value of coal in Donbass and other ex-Ukraine regions that are now part of Russia!

    CO2 is plant food, so let’s hope they sell a lot of that coal to countries that have efficient coal power plants!

    “Moscow controls 63% of Ukraine's coal, 11% of its oil, 20% of its natural gas, 42% of its metals, and 33% of its rare earths, including key minerals like lithium.”

    Maybe Putin should go for the top regions that have a lot of oil and gas as well.

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