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    If Trump goes to prison I believe it will send the USA into a new civil war, and it will spread to other countries as well.


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    For those interested in detailed, legal analysis of this debacle, here's Judge Andrew Napolitano in an update published yesterday. As Napolitano states in his introduction, he's continuing to do his best to present the grounded legal aspects of all this regardless of anyone's political opinions.

    In the last 2 minutes of the 20 min video, (and he said this twice to emphasize it), if Trump is convicted under the espionage act or obstruction of justice act, he will go to federal prison — though under the US Constitution that would NOT disqualify him from running for (or even being!) President.
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    See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1561981
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    The level of blatant corruption and criminality in America and other Western Nations by the mega rich Globalist Elite and their foot soldiers is painful to behold... an ugly display of power designed to demoralize... they are not going to stop attacking Trump through biased judges and the judiciary and it looks like they have decided on a 'death by a thousand cuts' strategy.... keeping him tied up with court cases to drain his energy - Trump is exceptionally resilient and totally committed to his MAGA political campaign - but I'm still worried for him - he's only human at the end of the day ...
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    Trump threw down the gauntlet to the Deep State recently -
    saying he had a ... 10 point plan to dismantle them

    Now I don't think they would have taken kindly to that and I am seriously concerned that they intend to go the whole way and put him in prison - or maybe put him under house arrest (as a first step)...

    The new charges (now 37 felony counts in total) are listed here

    ominously at the end of the article it says..

    Quote According to the indictment, each one of those charges carries a maximum fine of $250,000, with maximum prison sentences between five and 20 years.
    would 'they' dare to put him in prison - I think they would, in fact, 'they' would probably treat it as the best sport ever and enjoy every minute...

    I wouldn't worry about Trump. Did you watch his speech today?

    Here's a small part I transcribed... Trump appears to be thoroughly enjoying himself... Like he's thrilled things are progressing the way they are. It really does seem like he cast out bait and the Deep State took it hook, line, and sinker.

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    Donald J. Trump speaking live in Greensboro, NC, June 10, 2023

    Small part of Trump's speech:

    They come to me: "How do you stand this?" And, I usually look at them and say, "In a sick way, I sort of enjoy it." (amused reaction and applause from audience) Because, it exposes them. It exposes them for what they are. And, it's also lifted the poll numbers to even higher lengths. Have you seen this? The polls are through the roof. And, the fundraising -- small dollar fundraising -- is setting records. But, still you get indicted over nothing?! You get indicted over the Presidential Records Act which they don't even admit? They call it the Espionage Act! These are sick people!

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    For a stranger in a foreign land looking in, the following 4 minute soliloquy and personal opintion by Judge Jeanine, whilst astonishing, if true, I think should be a wake up call at the sad state of justice, law and politics in the usa.

    Watch from 2.26 - 4.27 (2 minutes)



    Sounds like Trump had a lot on his plate the last few years, and if that were me or you, I think we'd probably have thrown in the towel a long time ago. The saga continues, and if I understand it correctly the latest 30+ criminal charges Trump is acused of, are actual under the "presidential records act" (which is a civil matter???) I am confused, and really dont know what or who to believe, least of all - the doj, cia and fbi.

    What did happen to hillary and her emails and all the boxes of documents that biden took and stored in a storage facility, oh and the contracts et al on the infamous laptop?

    oh, addendum added...

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    The one thing for certain we all can believe is that the mass media is not going to tell us anything but hype. The news won't happen until the judge speaks and that is really all there is to it and then depending on what this judge says other judges will speak up to their appeal as weil as attorney's for whatever side is appealing. The fact is that anything we've read or seen so far is not reliable. The only reliable source is going to be the judge and what Cannon determines. I'll be shocked if these cases against Trump have legs to stand on. As a prez he has authority that is not questionable when in office and if he put those files, classified or not into his personal box they in that moment became unclassified personal docs based on what Alan Dershowitz said but we'll have to wait to see what the Cannon says. She has a lot more to see about the matter than the public would know at this point.
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    Ep. 3 America's principles are at stake

    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...028081664?s=20




    full transcript

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ples-are-stake
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    Styx shares his thoughts on the records storage publicity photos released on the newest indictment of Trump and reminds everyone that the photos are massive propaganda and represent "...the dumbing down of the Republic towards tyranny... because the Deep State apparatus is trying to turn us into a ******* banana republic."

    Styx: Look at this photograph... it's a picture taken by an ass:


    My thoughts... those photos, and the bathroom picture in particular, are meant to embarrass Trump. What's actually in those boxes? Do they have anything to do with the so-called case? Don't forget how the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago and released their Photoshopped image of so-called "top secret documents" conveniently strewn on the floor...


    The MASSIVE Propaganda of the Trump Indictment Most People Missed
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    https://rumble.com/v2tnwnk-the-massi...le-missed.html

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v2r2hc6

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    hi All

    I was at Trumps golf course for last nights press conference following his indictment.
    Ran into our pillow guy, Mike Lindell

    was a great crowd and vibe,

    Trump ?? , I dont know how he keeps going?
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    1. No arrest.
    2. No mugshot.
    3. No bond.
    4. No bail.
    5. Didn't surrender passport.
    6. No travel restrictions of any kind.
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Paul Craig Roberts says, “What is being done is a lesson that is being taught to all future political candidates. If you try to represent the people instead of the elite, we are going to destroy you – period. So, if they succeed in destroying Trump, and if the people permit that and don’t rise up and prevent it, then what you have from now on in the United States is tyranny.

    In the last part he also explains how the economy will un ravel in a way anyone can understand. Scroll down article for video.

    https://usawatchdog.com/gang-of-crim...craig-roberts/
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    hi All

    I was at Trumps golf course for last nights press conference following his indictment.
    Ran into our pillow guy, Mike Lindell

    was a great crowd and vibe,

    Trump ?? , I dont know how he keeps going?
    Lucky Mike Lindell! ...check you out! Both of you are looking awesome there. He wants his own portrait? (lol) But if I've been following correctly (?) he's out of luck, but might get his own song?

    I relate about the atmosphere, even though you and I are separated by ocean and culture but I also like the vibe at the London protest gatherings; it may or may not be an effective way to influence but it's the best place to make new friends.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    hi All

    I was at Trumps golf course for last nights press conference following his indictment.
    Ran into our pillow guy, Mike Lindell

    was a great crowd and vibe,

    Trump ??, I don't know how he keeps going?
    Satori has asked me to post these, to complement Doug's wonderful photo. He explained:
    Would you be willing to put these two photos of Mike Lindell, Steve Bannon and I on the "Donald Trump arrested and charged" thread?
    I'm not trying to outdo Doug, but the excellent photo he posted reminded me of the one I got with Lindell (and Bannon).
    These photos were taken on October 7, 2022 in Ruidoso, NM, at a get out the vote event during the meet and greet after the event.



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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    hi All

    I was at Trumps golf course for last nights press conference following his indictment.
    Ran into our pillow guy, Mike Lindell

    was a great crowd and vibe,

    Trump ??, I don't know how he keeps going?
    Satori has asked me to post these, to complement Doug's wonderful photo. He explained:
    Would you be willing to put these two photos of Mike Lindell, Steve Bannon and I on the "Donald Trump arrested and charged" thread?
    I'm not trying to outdo Doug, but the excellent photo he posted reminded me of the one I got with Lindell (and Bannon).
    These photos were taken on October 7, 2022 in Ruidoso, NM, at a get out the vote event during the meet and greet after the event.


    Thanks a bunch Bill!

    I’ve got my Bannon War Room black attire on.

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    matthew lol thanks. I said 6 words to him, Mike can I get a pic? Timing is everything.

    The funny thing is Im invited to Trumps whenever I want. My friend Jon belongs as a member. Hes getting to know Trump and eats in the same room for lunch.
    Jon knows I want to ask Trump about C O G! And if I get the chance, I will.

    Satori, love these pics and we now need to get a rubbing elbows thread !!

    p d

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    Ratszinger/ what do you make of your list of observations? what does that say to you, if anything??

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ...Satori has asked me to post these, to complement Doug's wonderful photo. He explained:[INDENT][I]Would you be willing to put these two photos of Mike Lindell, Steve Bannon and I on the "Donald Trump arrested and charged" thread?
    I'm not trying to outdo Doug, but the excellent photo he posted reminded me of the one I got with Lindell (and Bannon).
    These photos were taken on October 7, 2022 in Ruidoso, NM, at a get out the vote event during the meet and greet after the event.
    ...
    Did Mike Lindell or Steve Bannon personally help with Naomi Wolf's research?? No, that's why it could have been them wanting their picture taken with you Satori! (other thread post)

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    Paul Craig Roberts says, “What is being done is a lesson that is being taught to all future political candidates. If you try to represent the people instead of the elite, we are going to destroy you – period. So, if they succeed in destroying Trump, and if the people permit that and don’t rise up and prevent it, then what you have from now on in the United States is tyranny.

    In the last part he also explains how the economy will un ravel in a way anyone can understand. Scroll down article for video.

    https://usawatchdog.com/gang-of-crim...craig-roberts/
    Gang of Criminals Trying Trump – Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
    By Greg Hunter, USAWatchdog.com
    June 13, 2023
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    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts (PCR), former Assistant Treasury Secretary and international award-winning journalist, is worried about freedom and liberty.  PCR says with the latest arrest and prosecution of President Trump, freedom and liberty is dead in America.  PCR explains, “What they do makes it clear they have no claim that they are representatives of justice holding lawbreakers responsible. 

    They are the lawbreakers — they themselves.  You go to trial and it’s the criminals who are trying you, and that’s what’s happened in the United States.  This is happening to President Trump.  This is exactly what is happening to him.  The Department of Justice, which is a gang of criminals, is trying Trump, and they are getting away with it.  I can’t predict, but we are going to find out by the next presidential election whether we are a country or not.  What’s going to happen?  Are people going to wake up and stop this?  If this coup stays in place, the United States no longer exists.”

    PCR says, “What is being done is a lesson is being taught to all future political candidates.  If you try to represent the people instead of the elite, we are going to destroy you – period.   So, if they succeed in destroying Trump, and if the people permit that and don’t rise up and prevent it, then what you have from now on in the United States is tyranny.  If democracy cannot put into office someone who stands for the people who elected that person, then there is no democracy and there is no rule of law.  If you have no rule of law, you have the rule of whoever is in power. 

    In other words, it is the total end of any claim there is any freedom, any civil liberty or any accountability.  This is extremely serious.  This is an all-out assault.  The elite are attempting to completely destroy any accountability that would ever get in the way of their agendas.  So, this is only to be the agendas of the elite, and never ever any agenda of the people.”

    PCR also warns, “The United States is the Constitution.  If the Constitution is destroyed, the United States is destroyed.  So, if they destroy it, they have destroyed us.”

    PCR, who was an Assistant Treasury Secretary in the Reagan Administration, also talks about the coming collapse of the U.S dollar and extreme inflation that is not a matter of if but when.  It could be sooner than you think.

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    Ratszinger/ what do you make of your list of observations? what does that say to you, if anything??
    Only what it says. People jump to conclusions. In the movie "My Cousin Vinny" we all saw how it goes. Remember? That part of the movie is quite real. "Procedure" There is an indictment, and then an arraignment where the charges of the indictment are read in a formal presentation in court. That is what just took place. No arrest, no cuffs, no bail and so on. Some want to say it is Trump getting special treatment. It is not.
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    So my thoughts are, its not about this trial. its about something else, perhaps Nordstream 2, the Epstein client list, The Hunter laptop and so on

    they have all the news and all the attention on this.

    This is something you said back in April... It certainly aged well -- especially now with no major "mainstream" coverage of the Biden Crime Family's multi-million dollar crime spree -- the Greatest Political Scandal In US History!

    All their focus is on Trump!

















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    ...Satori has asked me to post these, to complement Doug's wonderful photo. He explained:[INDENT][I]Would you be willing to put these two photos of Mike Lindell, Steve Bannon and I on the "Donald Trump arrested and charged" thread?
    I'm not trying to outdo Doug, but the excellent photo he posted reminded me of the one I got with Lindell (and Bannon).
    These photos were taken on October 7, 2022 in Ruidoso, NM, at a get out the vote event during the meet and greet after the event.
    ...
    Did Mike Lindell or Steve Bannon personally help with Naomi Wolf's research?? No, that's why it could have been them wanting their picture taken with you Satori! (other thread post)
    Love it. Bannon did help with the book. I do not believe that Lindell played a role, but he may have. I don’t know for sure. In October 2022 the Pfizer book expose may not have yet been conceived. Or was in its early stages.

    The “meet & greet” after the event was a bit of cattle call. I was about 5th in line with a very nice man who was on vacation with his wife. They are from Alaska. They were traveling the lower 48 and were in New Mexico and he happened to see the event posted somewhere and came. His wife did not attend.

    We got into the meet and greet very early on. It was about 9:30 p.m. I still had a 3 hour drive from Ruidoso back to Albuquerque. I only stayed for about 10 minutes. Bannon and Lindell had no time to visit because the person in charge was hustling everyone through, chop, chop….

    There was a photographer who hoped to take pictures of people with Bannon and Lindell and turn a buck. I’m sure she did. But I was not interested. Lindell was first in line before Bannon. I mentioned to Lindell that my wife, who adores Lindell (and Bannon), would kill me if I did not bring home a picture of him. Lindell then said something about ensuring I got a photo to take home. He took my cell phone and he snapped the picture. We spoke for a brief while. We shook hands and I told him how much he is respected and that many more people than he knows support him. And to please keep up the fight. He said he would. Heck of a nice man. You can tell. Among other things, he has a very good, firm handshake. After we shook hands I moved on to Bannon.

    Unfortunately, I had even less time with Bannon. I took the picture. We shook hands, he has a firm handshake too, and as quickly as I could I told him who I am, that Naomi Wolf had presented a few of my reports on War Room in connection with the Pfizer posse regarding the Pfizer/Bio Tech fraud and the hiring of 2,400 additional full time employees to process the adverse event reports that were flooding in.

    Bannon’s face lit up a bit, and he said: “That was you? I said “yes sir” and off I went.

    I had no idea then the book was in the works. But in hindsight I think Bannon knew and he knew that two of my reports would be in the book, or at least were being considered.

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