Derek Johnson says Trump could still be the legal US President

[atman]

Posted by Pris (here)
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So... according to the main thrust of this chat with Derek Johnson (from Captain Kyle?)... is the possibility that Trump may take presidential control back before the 2024 election and that his running mate (possibly, get this, JFK Jr. lol! -- yes, the one who supposedly died in a plane crash!?) might be the one who will take over the presidency in 2024 (if this is to be believed, I'm guessing this is his payback against the globalists for what they did to his father). Meanwhile, Trump is elevated to some kind of worldwide ambassador (in line with the BRICS nations, eg. Putin has already contributed tremendously in this to help expose the globalists crimes in Ukraine including money laundering, bio-weapons labs, and human trafficking) while continuing to help boot out the remaining globalists and their puppets from any and all positions of power and hold them all accountable for their crimes against humanity. At the moment, all the evidence of their crimes is being built up.


This whole video is very good (to save time, watch at a faster speed). If you want to skip to what I think is the most interesting stuff, start at 54:00


Derek Johnson HUGE Intel: "The Storm, Military Movements"

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Pris, I have not yet followed up on your post #128 in reply to one of my previous posts, simply because of your focus on my (very real) syntactical or vocabulary weaknesses, rather than on the substance of the information that I was presenting in counterpoint to some of Derek Johnson's most absurd assertions. But I will get to it, hopefully in a few days from now...

I have great respect for the originator of this thread, who just yesterday has expressed his belief that the matter exposed by Derek Johnson "still has legs", and so I allowed myself to watch the video that you posted yesterday, a video that—as you say—is very good. Well, you will not be surprised to read my evaluation of said video: I find it to be a waste of time and a sad expression of delusion by well-intentioned participants.

The following are not my personal beliefs, but some of the dubious assertions or outright absurdities that are calmy or passionately expressed in the video:

• The U.S. is currently under a limited martial law.
  
  
• The Constitution is suspended.
  
  
• We’re living through the biggest military sting operation in the history of the world and we're watching a movie.
  
  
• The apparent situation at the southern border is for optics only. The military are 100% in control.
  
  
• The events we are going through are to wake up the people. The military are in complete control and are mind-screwing the public in order to wake them up, to reverse the MK-Ultra programming that the public has been programmed with their entire lives. People do suffer in the meantime, but it is preferable to having allowed a full-blown civil war to take place.
  
  
• It is a worldwide operation.
  
  
• Aircraft and other military movements in the U.S., in Canada and elsewhere are indicative of the huge clean-up that is about to happen (one aspect of it being the rounding up of about 75% of the criminals in the streets).
  
  
• This is a great time to be alive! The military will finish their operation and there will be a big flip in society and in the consciousness of the general population.
  
  
• Derek Johnson's belief is that Trump, at his age, will not run for President in 2024, but will regain his official position as POTUS before then.

Here are some of the other "truths" stated by the individual calling himself CaptKyle Patriots, with Derek Johnson nodding his head and smiling in agreement, throughout CaptKyle's verbal assertions:

• Donald J. Trump is basically an administrator right now over every country in the world. It has been that way since 2017 when all nations capitulated to him. They are all being advised by him under his authority.
  
  
• “Jon Jon” (John F. Kennedy Jr.), who has been part of the special forces for a long time and who has been Trump's right-hand man since 2019, is currently his Vice-President and will step into the role of President for 2024.
  
  
• A lot of the people that we think are dead, are alive. And there are many more people that we think are alive, that are dead. (My comment: In other videos, it has been stated that Joe Biden has been dead for quite a while and that people like Hillary Clinton have already been in front of a military tribunal, found guilty of treason or crimes against humanity, and then executed. Several personalities, political or not, and that are seemingly alive, are actually actors that are wearing masks. Donald J Trump has often alluded to that "fact" by referring to them as "Central Casting")

Derek Johnson later on says that he is still scheduled to go to Gitmo (Guantánamo Bay detention camp), to witness some of the upcoming military tribunals. Derek had previously said that he would be there in early June, but now he says that he will be present from August 5 to August 19, unless for some reason his access is no longer granted at that time...

[thepainterdoug]

Atman/ I understand your position. please see my new thread, nothing can stop whats coming.

Im remaining open and waiting, I also have no care about being called wrong. No one knows whats going on, we are all speculating

I don't blame anyone for thinking its all nonsense.

[atman]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Atman/ I understand your position. please see my new thread, nothing can stop whats coming.

Im remaining open and waiting, I also have no care about being called wrong. No one knows whats going on, we are all speculating

I don't blame anyone for thinking its all nonsense.

Thanks, Doug.

You know what? I truly do not believe that it's all nonsense...

And I sort of would prefer to be proven wrong on the counter-arguments that I have personally expressed or shared so far... At the very least — damned be my soul chanting perhaps a thousand hosannas to blissful ignorance — drinking the Kool-Aid would be a much more comfortable position to take (Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing)...

What I firmly believe and profess, however — and I think that everyone on this forum would concur — is that we should remain prudent and maintain a modicum of skepticism when faced with claims of a planetwide sting operation by the military — under the guidance of Donald J. Trump — more precisely a global military operation that is meant to liberate society from the Deep State and the evil cabal that has been controlling and abusing society for the longest time. Caution should be the order of the day especially when such claims of an imminent societal salvation operation completely defy common sense and all observable reality (for example: contrary to what Derek Johnson posits as an undeniable truth, Zelensky is NOT a Trump white hat and the tragic war in Ukraine is NOT a Hollywood-type production conducted or at the very least allowed to go on by the U.S. military in order to awaken us, the unwoken populace, still stupidly unaware of the LAWS & ORDERS).

I would not normally do this, but I am going to copy and paste in full a very recent blog entry by an American who goes by the name of @libertyforallo7 on TruthSocial and @ChrisLambe8 on Twitter and who, according to the bio published on his blog, has a masters in emergency & disaster management from Trident University, worked as an EMS, wrote the EAPs & COOP plans for Reclamation & did an internship for USACE.

In answer to a reader who asked him if she could share his Substack on her website, he replied: "you are more than welcome (...), its here for all who want it."

So here I go (even though I doubt that many will find this long post of interest enough to read it in full):

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Weighing Law of War Theory and Derek Johnson's Credibility

CHRIS - LIBERTYFORALLO7
JUN 17, 2023

What Are The Laws Of War, And Why Do They Matter?

In Derek Johnson's Law of War theory, which is precisely what it is—a theory—he discusses a blueprint outlining how the President divides his duties, initiates contingency operations, and engages in irregular warfare not only within the United States but also worldwide. This blueprint begins with the Law of War Manual and extends to the Military Justice Act, followed by the Federal Continuity Directives. It then incorporates Trump's proclamation 9994 and EO 13912, leading to EO 13961 and the introduction of FMRS into the Executive Branch. Each of these components operates differently, and it is concerning that Derek confuses emergency response with military justice and intertwines them with the Law of War. Such confusion could have potentially harmful consequences.

First and foremost, it is essential that each area, emergency response, military justice, and international humanitarian law, is defined appropriately and approached with a clear understanding of its distinct principles, legal frameworks, and objectives. By doing so, we can uphold the protection of civilians, respect human rights, maintain legal consistency, and foster effective international cooperation.

Merging emergency response, military justice, and international humanitarian law under the Law of War theory without clear distinctions and proper application could lead to several potential harmful consequences:

1. Erosion of civilian protections: International humanitarian law, also known as the law of armed conflict, provides crucial protections for civilians during armed conflicts. If emergency response and military justice are incorrectly integrated into this framework, it may undermine the fundamental principles of distinction between combatants and non-combatants, proportionality, and precautions in attack. This could result in an increased risk to civilian lives and property.
   
   
2. Legal confusion and inconsistency: Each domain, emergency response, military justice, and international humanitarian law, has its own set of legal principles, procedures, and authorities. Blurring the lines between these areas could create confusion in terms of legal frameworks, accountability mechanisms, and decision-making processes. This could lead to inconsistent application of the law and hinder effective response and justice.
   
   
3. Violation of human rights: International humanitarian law operates within the framework of human rights law, which provides protections for individuals during peacetime. If emergency response and military justice are intertwined with international humanitarian law without due regard for human rights standards, there is a risk of violating individuals' rights to due process, fair trial, and freedom from arbitrary detention.
   
   
4. International reputation and cooperation: The proper interpretation and application of international humanitarian law are crucial for maintaining strong international cooperation and respect for global norms. If the Law of War theory blurs the lines between emergency response, military justice, and international humanitarian law, it may undermine the credibility and reputation of a country, making it harder to gain international support and cooperation during times of crisis or conflict.

Let’s go into each one of the pieces referenced by Derek: Law of War Manual, Military Justice Act, Federal Continuity Directives, Proclamation 9994, Executive Order 13912, Federal Mission Resiliency Strategy and EO 13961 and define them.

Law of War Manual:
The Law of War Manual is a document that provides guidance on the application of international law governing armed conflict. It outlines the legal framework for the conduct of hostilities, including principles such as distinction, proportionality, and military necessity. The manual serves as a reference for the armed forces and provides a comprehensive overview of how the law of armed conflict should be interpreted and applied.

Military Justice Act:
The Military Justice Act refers to legislation that governs the administration of justice within the military. It establishes the legal framework for handling military offenses, including the rights and obligations of military personnel, rules of evidence, and procedures for courts-martial. The act ensures discipline and accountability within the military and addresses offenses committed by military personnel.

Federal Continuity Directives:
Federal Continuity Directives are guidelines issued by the U.S. government to ensure the continuity of essential functions and operations of federal agencies during a crisis or emergency situation. These directives outline the processes and procedures to be followed in order to maintain the functioning of government operations, including succession planning, delegations of authority, and the provision of essential services.

The concept of continuity applies to various organizations and government entities, including civilian agencies, businesses, and non-governmental organizations. The primary goal of continuity is to ensure the uninterrupted delivery of critical services and the maintenance of essential operations during and after disruptive events or emergencies.

Proclamation 9994:
also known as Proclamation on Declaring a National Emergency Concerning the Novel Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Outbreak, was issued by President Donald Trump on March 13, 2020. The proclamation declared a national emergency in the United States in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

By declaring a national emergency, the proclamation invoked certain powers and authorities granted to the president under the National Emergencies Act. This allowed the federal government to mobilize resources, coordinate response efforts, and take other necessary actions to address the impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak across the country.

The declaration of a national emergency provided additional flexibility to allocate funding, expedite procurement processes, and implement measures to combat the spread of the virus, protect public health, and support affected individuals and communities. It also facilitated the coordination between federal, state, and local agencies in their response to the pandemic.

Congress ended this emergency on April 10, 2023.

Executive Order 13912:
Executive Order 13912 refers to an order issued by President Donald Trump on March 18, 2020. This executive order invoked the authority granted to the Secretary of Defense under 10 U.S. Code § 12304a, specifically to order members of the Selected Reserve and certain members of the Individual Ready Reserve to active duty during a national emergency or when determined necessary to augment the active forces for operational requirements. This authority is used when deemed necessary to support operational requirements and augment the active forces during a national emergency. Executive Order 13912 was issued under the authority granted by the Stafford Act, not the National Emergencies Act (NEA).

The purpose of this executive order, in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic, was to provide flexibility and additional resources to the Department of Defense to respond to the public health crisis and support the overall national response efforts. The Department of Defense (DoD) did not take the lead role in the overall national response efforts to the COVID-19 pandemic. The lead role in responding to a public health crisis typically falls under the purview of public health agencies, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

Federal Mission Resiliency Strategy (FMRS):
The Federal Mission Resiliency Strategy (FMRS) is a comprehensive approach developed by the U.S. government to strengthen the resilience and preparedness of federal missions. It recognizes that federal agencies play a crucial role in ensuring the continuity of essential services and functions during emergencies, natural disasters, and other disruptive events.

The FMRS aims to enhance the ability of federal agencies to anticipate, withstand, adapt to, and recover from a wide range of threats and challenges. These threats can include natural disasters like hurricanes, earthquakes, or wildfires, as well as human-caused incidents such as cyberattacks, pandemics, or terrorist attacks.

A Dive into His Claims:

Derek Johnson talks about there being 5 other FCDs that were issued after the first two FCD1 and FCD2. This in itself is a false attribution. He claims there have been guidelines issued since the first two, but he doesn’t provide any specific source or references to support this claim. Can he please provide the FCDs and where to reference them? Is there really FCD1 – FCD7? Where is the references? Without verifiable evidence, it is difficult to determine the accuracy of his claim.

From what I gather, and have researched, the Federal Mission Resiliency Strategy is the response to Executive Order 13961 and aims to align with the directive to enhance continuity planning and response efforts across departments and agencies within the executive branch.

Johnson further comes out and gives bad information to the public, he states:

“When the Federal Government is under a Continuity of Government, all 3 Branches of Government are to perform their ESSENTIAL functions to maintain constitutional government. That means the Constitution is on a pause and the Military is in a Military Occupancy which is found in the Law of War Manual which is the Department of Defense's guideline and handbook. That does not mean the Military is overthrowing the government. Be careful who you follow when they say that's what we're advocating. That couldn't be farther from the truth. The Oath that every soldier takes from 10 U.S. Code 502 specifically says: "I do solemnly swear to SUPPORT and DEFEND the CONSTITUTION of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to REGULATIONS and the UNIFORM of MILITARY JUSTICE, so help me God."

He misinterprets what Continuity of Government (COG) is. Under a COG plan, the primary objective is to ensure the ongoing functioning of the government in the event of a catastrophic emergency, such as a natural disaster or attack. The COG plan is designed to maintain constitutional government and does not involve putting the Constitution on pause since the very first National Essential Function is to maintain constitutional form of government, that would include safeguarding and protecting the constitution itself.

The general aim is to preserve the three branches of government and their essential functions. The executive, legislative, and judicial branches would continue to operate, albeit potentially in alternative locations if necessary for security reasons. The goal is to maintain the rule of law and protect the Constitution during times of crisis. The concept of "Military Occupancy" that he mentions is not directly related to COG.

Military occupation typically refers to a situation where a foreign military force takes control of a territory or region. It is governed by international laws and treaties, such as the Law of War or the Geneva Conventions. In a domestic COG scenario, the military's role is to provide support and assistance to civilian authorities, not to establish military rule or occupation.

Another thing that Johnson claims and says is the following:

The Military Justice Act of 2016 was written by the United States Supreme Court BEFORE the Courts - Judicial Branch, Congress - Legislative Branch, and Presidency - Executive Branch went under a Continuity of Government... and was not passed until the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act which is the Defense budget which would be a National Essential Function.

The MJA 2016 clarifies 3 major things that have not been clarified since the Foundation of Military:

1. Military Laws supersedes Civilian Laws.

2. President and Commander-in-Chief are separate.

3. Commander-in-Chief (Article II) is separate from Article III (Federal Government)

Meaning, the United States Military, can act without Congress supporting the Declaration of Independence which specially says:

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

This is where he gets a lot of stuff wrong. Let’s clarify: The Military Justice Act of 2016 (MJA 2016) did not originate from the United States Supreme Court. It was actually passed by Congress as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017. The Military Justice Act of 2016 made significant reforms to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and the military justice system. And with that let’s address 3 main concerns:

1. Military Laws supersedes Civilian Laws: This statement is not entirely accurate. While the military justice system operates independently from the civilian legal system, it does not mean that military laws always supersede civilian laws. There are specific circumstances, such as when military personnel commit crimes while on active duty, where the military justice system handles the case. However, in general, civilian laws still apply to civilians and military personnel when they are off-duty or not on military installations.
   
   
2. President and Commander-in-Chief are separate: The President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief of the military. These roles are not separate; they are held by the same person. The President, as the Commander-in-Chief, has the authority to command and control the military forces.
   
   
3. Commander-in-Chief (Article II) is separate from Article III (Federal Government): This statement is also inaccurate. Article II of the United States Constitution establishes the executive branch of government, which includes the President and the Commander-in-Chief role. Article III establishes the judicial branch of government, which is responsible for interpreting laws and includes the Supreme Court. These branches are not separate from each other but work together as part of the checks and balances system.

It is hard to truly understand what Johnson is throwing together as a means to teach and understand truth when there are so many assertions with hasty generalizations and is easily refuted. For example EO 13489 that Trump resigned on September 20, 2018 was done in references to implementing sanctions against Russia, Iran, North Korea for various reasons and is not related to executive privilege at all. President Barack Obama issued EO 13489, titled "Presidential Records," which revoked some provisions of EO 13233. EO 13489 specifically revoked section 13 of EO 13233, which pertained to the ability of former presidents to assert executive privilege to withhold records from the public. But Trump declassified all his documents that he held in Mar-a-Lago using executive privilege. and Obama’s EO does not directly address executive privilege. Executive privilege is a separate legal concept that allows presidents to withhold certain information from disclosure, but it is not explicitly mentioned in EO 13489. No matter where Johnson argues its easily refuted, all one needs to do is go to the articles themselves and look at them and read.

Conclusion:

In conclusion, it is evident that Derek Johnson's assertions regarding the merging of emergency response, military justice, and international humanitarian law under the Law of War theory are flawed and intentionally misleading. The distinct principles, legal frameworks, and objectives of each area must be properly defined and approached to uphold the protection of civilians, respect human rights, maintain legal consistency, and foster effective international cooperation. The Law of War Manual, Military Justice Act, Federal Continuity Directives, Proclamation 9994, Executive Order 13912, Federal Mission Resiliency Strategy, and EO 13961 are separate documents with distinct purposes and applications. Blurring the lines between these areas without clear distinctions and proper application can have harmful consequences.

Derek Johnson's claims regarding the existence of additional Federal Continuity Directives beyond FCD1 and FCD2 and that lacks verifiable evidence, raising doubts about its accuracy.

Furthermore, Johnson's misinterpretation of the Continuity of Government, the role of the military, and the provisions of the Military Justice Act of 2016 highlight the importance of accurate understanding and interpretation of legal frameworks and governmental processes. Misinformation can lead to confusion, false assumptions, and the spread of inaccuracies.

In a world where information is readily accessible, it is crucial to engage in fact-checking, reference reliable sources, and critically analyze claims made by individuals. By scrutinizing the original documents and relying on verifiable evidence, we can promote a more informed and accurate understanding of complex legal matters and government policies.

[Pris]

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Posted by atman (here)
Pris, I have not yet followed up on your post #128 in reply to one of my previous posts, simply because of your focus on my (very real) syntactical or vocabulary weaknesses, rather than on the substance of the information that I was presenting in counterpoint to some of Derek Johnson's most absurd assertions. But I will get to it, hopefully in a few days from now...

I have great respect for the originator of this thread, who just yesterday has expressed his belief that the matter exposed by Derek Johnson "still has legs", and so I allowed myself to watch the video that you posted yesterday, a video that—as you say—is very good. Well, you will not be surprised to read my evaluation of said video: I find it to be a waste of time and a sad expression of delusion by well-intentioned participants.

The following are not my personal beliefs, but some of the dubious assertions or outright absurdities that are calmy or passionately expressed in the video:

• The U.S. is currently under a limited martial law.
  
  
• The Constitution is suspended.
  
  
• We’re living through the biggest military sting operation in the history of the world and we're watching a movie.
  
  
• The apparent situation at the southern border is for optics only. The military are 100% in control.
  
  
• The events we are going through are to wake up the people. The military are in complete control and are mind-screwing the public in order to wake them up, to reverse the MK-Ultra programming that the public has been programmed with their entire lives. People do suffer in the meantime, but it is preferable to having allowed a full-blown civil war to take place.
  
  
• It is a worldwide operation.
  
  
• Aircraft and other military movements in the U.S., in Canada and elsewhere are indicative of the huge clean-up that is about to happen (one aspect of it being the rounding up of about 75% of the criminals in the streets).
  
  
• This is a great time to be alive! The military will finish their operation and there will be a big flip in society and in the consciousness of the general population.
  
  
• Derek Johnson's belief is that Trump, at his age, will not run for President in 2024, but will regain his official position as POTUS before then.

Here are some of the other "truths" stated by the individual calling himself CaptKyle Patriots, with Derek Johnson nodding his head and smiling in agreement, throughout CaptKyle's verbal assertions:

• Donald J. Trump is basically an administrator right now over every country in the world. It has been that way since 2017 when all nations capitulated to him. They are all being advised by him under his authority.
  
  
• “Jon Jon” (John F. Kennedy Jr.), who has been part of the special forces for a long time and who has been Trump's right-hand man since 2019, is currently his Vice-President and will step into the role of President for 2024.
  
  
• A lot of the people that we think are dead, are alive. And there are many more people that we think are alive, that are dead. (My comment: In other videos, it has been stated that Joe Biden has been dead for quite a while and that people like Hillary Clinton have already been in front of a military tribunal, found guilty of treason or crimes against humanity, and then executed. Several personalities, political or not, and that are seemingly alive, are actually actors that are wearing masks. Donald J Trump has often alluded to that "fact" by referring to them as "Central Casting")

Derek Johnson later on says that he is still scheduled to go to Gitmo (Guantánamo Bay detention camp), to witness some of the upcoming military tribunals. Derek had previously said that he would be there in early June, but now he says that he will be present from August 5 to August 19, unless for some reason his access is no longer granted at that time...

Wow, that was quite the effort, though I don't see what the big deal is. This is a thread for people who are following the Derek Johnson info. Since you'd already made up your mind about him, there was no need for you to "waste" your time watching the video I posted. Now then, since you've concluded that, in your opinion, there are those of us here who are deluded, there's no reason for you to "waste" any more of your time on this subject.

Just like thepainterdoug, I have also said that I don't care if I'm wrong about Derek earlier in the thread. Perhaps you missed that. So far, I'm not convinced it's BS. Quite the contrary, actually. From my own observations, I do think there's something big going on, and I do think it's worldwide. Your evaluation of Derek's statements and research information (actual laws and orders) that's available to anyone to check out for themselves (which I'm guessing you've studied?) hasn't convinced me it's BS either. Regardless, I'm having fun with this. Perhaps, you can appreciate that aspect of it.

[atman]

Posted by Pris (here)
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Posted by atman (here)
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Wow, that was quite the effort, though I don't see what the big deal is. This is a thread for people who are following the Derek Johnson info. Since you'd already made up your mind about him, there was no need for you to "waste" your time watching the video I posted. Now then, since you've concluded that, in your opinion, there are those of us here who are deluded, there's no reason for you to "waste" any more of your time on this subject.

Just like thepainterdoug, I have also said that I don't care if I'm wrong about Derek earlier in the thread. Perhaps you missed that. So far, I'm not convinced it's BS. Quite the contrary, actually. From my own observations, I do think there's something big going on, and I do think it's worldwide. Your evaluation of Derek's statements and research information (actual laws and orders) that's available to anyone to check out for themselves (which I'm guessing you've studied?) hasn't convinced me it's BS either. Regardless, I'm having fun with this. Perhaps, you can appreciate that aspect of it.

Sorry, I had not realized that this thread was only for devotees of Derek Johnson and that any questioning of his outlandish claims was to be ridiculed.

And, no, contrary to you, I do not find this funny at all.

[thepainterdoug]

wow ! OK, so I posted a thread , "nothing can stop whats coming", can't believe no interest, no response. is it Q, that threw everyone off?
I was never a so called Q guy until recent and still with one foot in the water.

Lt Colonel Riccardo Bosi from Australia is in the above post mentioned.
I dont know anyones opinion of him, but why would he be 100% on board with Derek Johnson if at least some of what Derek says doesnt have validity? Why put your neck and reputation on the line to that degree if its all nonsense?
And why would Derek do that as well? Its not like derek is a mumbling fool, inconsistent and with nothing behind his claims
Could he be wrong or misinterpret things? Of course he could.

Riccardo Bosi among others claim this is a world concerted effort. Not just us! It may need to be staged in such a way. Central casting as Trump continualy references. Its beyond understanding, its biblical according to some

i hear it said by this group that many people believed to be dead are actually still alive, and many people believed to be alive are actually dead
Think about it?? I am not saying I know, but I have not see pelousy, hillary, and some others for quite a while.
Hey I know it sounds like the wild west of conspiricies, even for this group.

the good news folks is whatever the truth, it will be know to all soon. Patience !
Or as I heard it said, "enjoy the suck".
and this sucks

[atman]

At least one forum member is having much fun with the subject at hand, but has expressed the opinion that I should no longer be wasting my time posting on this thread... because apparently of my unwelcomed questions and of my contrarian views (views which, by the way, I only obtained AFTER studying much of Derek Johnson's written materials).

Well, for those of us who still value debate or, at the very least, respectful and rational discussions, I thought I would ignore the admonition and share the following blog entry by CHRIS - LIBERTYFORALLO7, who provides an analysis that I find valuable.

That blog entry, by the way, was posted on the Internet on June 19 and so had no influence on the critical views that I initially expressed on some of Dereck Johnson's Documents (which views I still maintain).

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Fact Checking Derek Johnson: The Documents
https://thedocuments.info/

CHRIS - LIBERTYFORALLO7
JUN 19, 2023

I’m not trying to troll Derek Johnson but trying to show the contradictions that he states in his arguments that we are under a military COG, when the military doesn’t COG. COG is an outcome of Continuity Planning and that involved all branches of government, Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. That outcome is in relation to the first National Essential Function: To preserve the constitutional form of government.

He even states on Twitter with his background picture:



On Derek Johnson’s website 1776 Nation he lists out everything and tells you to fact check it.



And the fourth article below is what I want to get into:



He starts out with this:



False: The claim that the Military and War Articles (Military Law) were founded before the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights is incorrect.

Fact: In the United States, the Military and War Articles, also known as the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), were not established before the Declaration of Independence or the formation of the United States as a separate nation. The UCMJ was enacted by the U.S. Congress in 1950 and governs the military justice system for all branches of the U.S. military.

False: The assertion that the founders created the military solely to prevent war is an oversimplification and not entirely accurate.

Fact: The primary goal of the military is to safeguard national security and protect the country's interests. While defense and the prevention of conflict are significant factors, the military also stands ready to take defensive or offensive actions when needed during times of conflict.

Lets go on:



False: The statement suggests that James Madison, in 1803 during the Marbury v. Madison case, had to defend what a law looks like.

Fact: This landmark case, decided in 1803, established the principle of judicial review, empowering the Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution and declare laws unconstitutional, not James Madison. The case focused on the interpretation of the Constitution and the authority of the judiciary.

False: Freedom of speech aligns with the Constitution while others' does not, the latter is null and void.

Fact: Freedom of speech applies to all citizens regardless of their alignment with specific interpretations of the Constitution. The Constitution safeguards individual rights and does not nullify someone's freedom of speech based on differing viewpoints.

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Contradictions:

You can go to any page and find the false information that Derek Johnson is showing people.



Lets talk about the contradictions here…

Contradiction 1: The statement "This isn't about me period" contradicts the preceding statement "I've taken the Laws and Orders that are different than any other time in History" as it implies that the interpretation and actions taken are indeed about Derek Johnson.

Contradiction 2: The statement "Two, because there are not any Laws and Orders that rescind, revise, or revoke the current and active leading this massive and brilliant Military Operation and Continuity of Government" contradicts the earlier statement "I'm simply taking Laws and Orders I didn't write or pass and interpreting them" by suggesting that the laws and orders in question are not subject to revision or revocation.

Contradiction 3: The statement "There's nothing in the world that has stopped, will stop, or can stop what's happening" contradicts the previous statement "I'm simply taking Laws and Orders I didn't write or pass and interpreting them" by suggesting that the speaker's actions are unstoppable.

Contradiction 4: The statement "Knowledge is NOT power. It's the application that's power" contradicts the earlier statement "I've got a simple and easy Blueprint that outlines how Donald John Trump is still Commander-in-Chief by Laws, Orders, Regulations, Statutes, Acts, Codes" as it implies that knowledge (the blueprint) is indeed power.

Contradiction 5: The statement "I'm simply following the instructions of God who gave me the platform with the ability to retain so much information" contradicts the earlier statement "I'm simply taking Laws and Orders I didn't write or pass and interpreting them" as it suggests that the speaker is not solely relying on external laws and orders but also claims to receive instructions from a divine source.

Contradiction 6: The statement "Knowledge is NOT power. It's the application that's power" contradicts the earlier statement "I've got a simple and easy Blueprint that outlines how Donald John Trump is still Commander-in-Chief by Laws, Orders, Regulations, Statutes, Acts, Codes" as it implies that knowledge of the blueprint and its interpretation are crucial for asserting power and influence.

Contradiction 7: The statement "There's nothing in the world that has stopped, will stop, or can stop what's happening" contradicts the earlier statement "I'm simply taking Laws and Orders I didn't write or pass and interpreting them" by suggesting that the speaker's actions and interpretations are unstoppable and unchallenged.

Contradiction 8: The statement "Don't be all Uniform and no Service" contradicts the previous statement "Don't be all Service and no Brains" as it implies that focusing solely on serving without considering other aspects, such as appearance or adherence to rules, is not desirable.

Contradiction 9: The statement "I'm simply taking Laws and Orders that are different than any other time in History" contradicts the later statement "There are not any Laws and Orders that rescind, revise, or revoke the current and active leading this massive and brilliant Military Operation and Continuity of Government" by suggesting that the laws and orders being interpreted are unique and distinct from historical precedents, while also implying their immutability and non-revisability.

Derek’s article is 45 pages long. And by this point everything he says is moot and not worth a dime that he’s projecting on. This isn’t defamation, this is simply fact checking his argument and showing the false information and contradictions.

Keep your vision sharp.

Know the truth, the truth will set you free.

Until next time…

[atman]

This will be an almost final contribution of mine to this thread (almost final as I may still come back to clarify a few incorrect assumptions or conclusions made by member Pris about myself and my views in post #128 above)...

In my previous post, just above, I had omitted to provide a link to the blog entry by CHRIS - LIBERTYFORALLO7. Here it is: https://blacksheep7.substack.com/p/f...medium=reader2

And now to Chris' next blog entry in which he pursues his fact checking of Derek Johnson, in an article posted just two days ago (and which I share in full because of Chris' implicit permission to share his writings as one wishes).

He goes on explaining fundamentals as well as miscomprehensions about Continuity of Government (COG), a subject that I admit to not having thoroughly studied myself.

A few of you, hopefully, will find the article useful.

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Fact Checking Derek Johnson: Part 2

CHRIS - LIBERTYFORALLO7
JUN 20, 2023


Continuity of Government (COG) is a vital part of the National Response Framework (NRF). It's about ensuring that our government can keep functioning and important tasks can continue, even when there's a big crisis. COG is specifically talked about in the Emergency Support Function (ESF) #15, which helps different levels of government work together. In the NRF, COG is seen as extremely important because it protects our constitutional government, helps leaders make decisions, and ensures that critical services keep running.

It involves figuring out which government jobs are the most essential, setting up backup locations and resources, choosing key people to keep things going, and making plans for handling tough times.

In simple terms, COG is all about making sure our government can keep working and provide important services, during disruptions. This outcome aligns closely with the primary National Essential Function: Safeguarding the constitutional form of government. In light of this, I will proceed with the critical examination of the National Emergency declared by Trump in March of 2020 with the information presented in Derek Johnson's blueprint found on his website 1776 Nation, as he encourages us to diligently verify its accuracy.



On page 24 he begins with citing the 50 United States Code 34, and he points you to Chapter 2, section 1622 of the USC.



This section deals with Terminations of declared national emergencies. And he gives the appropriate citation to it.

Any national emergency declared by the President in accordance with this subchapter shall terminate if—

(1) there is enacted into law a joint resolution terminating the emergency; or

(2) the President issues a proclamation terminating the emergency.

Yet then Derek makes this false claim:



This contradicts the United States Code. So this statement is false. Here is the reason why, I will make this plane so anyone can understand what the USC is saying.

Any national emergency declared by the President, will end under two circumstances:

If passed by Congress and signed into law, or

If the President issues a proclamation declaring an end to the emergency.

Once either of these termination events occurs, the national emergency will be officially over.

False Information:
There has been NO joint resolution.

Fact:
Congress actually passed a joint resolution and is in chapter 2 and that ended the national emergency.



Congress terminated it through a joint resolution, any powers or authorities that were exercised under that emergency, are no longer in effect, as the USC states which are done by a designated termination date, which was April 10, 2023 .

The law for terminating such emergencies reads as follows:

Any national emergency declared by the President in accordance with this subchapter shall terminate if—

(1) there is enacted into law a joint resolution terminating the emergency; or

(2) the President issues a proclamation terminating the emergency.

Any national emergency declared by the President shall be terminated on the date specified in any joint resolution referred to in clause (1) or on the date specified in a proclamation by the President terminating the emergency as provided in clause (2) of this subsection, whichever date is earlier, and any powers or authorities exercised by reason of said emergency shall cease to be exercised after such specified date, except that such termination shall not affect

This explains the conditions for ending a national emergency and what happens when it ends. This law states that a national emergency can be terminated through Congress. When a national emergency is terminated, the deployment of National Guard and reserve personnel starts to wind down, and the authorities used for federal response are completely ending.

Now, let's talk about Derek Johnson. He has a voice and influences people's perception of law and order. However, it seems like he lacks a proper understanding of these laws. His arguments often contain many contradictions, which brings confusion and disrupts the understanding of such order that should be in place. It's hard for me to comprehend why someone like him, who doesn't fully grasp these laws, can have such an impact on others.

Can we get back to saving our country and stop giving this person credibility where he lacks such?

God speed patriots…

May you be able to discern truth from error.

[thepainterdoug]

Atman/ you are free to visit and revisit this thread and all others as often as you wish. Thats whats great about Project Avalon.

My only comment regarding the list you provided is, Id like to see Derek Johnson himself discuss these issues with the person questioning him .

Its quite possible Derek would clarify and clean these up. Just speculating.
pd

[Pris]

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Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Riccardo Bosi among others claim this is a world concerted effort. Not just us! It may need to be staged in such a way. Central casting as Trump continualy references. Its beyond understanding, its biblical according to some

This is also why I don't discount the idea that Zelensky may indeed be a "white hat"... he's an actor for sure. Why not. Some people also think Biden isn't Biden and perhaps they're right. Maybe all those facelifts were done to make someone else appear to be Biden.

[Pris]

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Posted by atman (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
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Wow, that was quite the effort, though I don't see what the big deal is. This is a thread for people who are following the Derek Johnson info. Since you'd already made up your mind about him, there was no need for you to "waste" your time watching the video I posted. Now then, since you've concluded that, in your opinion, there are those of us here who are deluded, there's no reason for you to "waste" any more of your time on this subject.

Sorry, I had not realized that this thread was only for devotees of Derek Johnson and that any questioning of his outlandish claims was to be ridiculed.

And, no, contrary to you, I do not find this funny at all.

No, I did not say that this thread was only for devotees of Derek Johnson. By all means, you are welcome to stay. You said you'd wasted your time watching the video I posted. Yet, you knew it was about Derek Johnson. You could have stopped watching the video at any time. Here's what you said:

Posted by atman (here)
I have great respect for the originator of this thread, who just yesterday has expressed his belief that the matter exposed by Derek Johnson "still has legs", and so I allowed myself to watch the video that you posted yesterday, a video that—as you say—is very good. Well, you will not be surprised to read my evaluation of said video: I find it to be a waste of time and a sad expression of delusion by well-intentioned participants.

I think Derek Johnson is clearly on the mark, and that's why he's getting such positive attention.

Posted by atman (here)
At least one forum member is having much fun with the subject at hand, but has expressed the opinion that I should no longer be wasting my time posting on this thread... because apparently of my unwelcomed questions and of my contrarian views (views which, by the way, I only obtained AFTER studying much of Derek Johnson's written materials).

Well, for those of us who still value debate or, at the very least, respectful and rational discussions, I thought I would ignore the admonition and share the following blog entry by........

You misinterpreted what I said. You yourself said you wasted your time watching the video I put up. This is what I said:

Posted by Pris (here)
Wow, that was quite the effort, though I don't see what the big deal is. This is a thread for people who are following the Derek Johnson info. Since you'd already made up your mind about him, there was no need for you to "waste" your time watching the video I posted. Now then, since you've concluded that, in your opinion, there are those of us here who are deluded, there's no reason for you to "waste" any more of your time on this subject.

Again, you are welcome to stay and waste more of your time watching Derek Johnson videos I'll surely continue to post. Your questions and contrarian views are also welcome. And, if you want "respectful and rational discussions", realize that you yourself may not be coming across as "respectful and rational".

And, yes, I'm having fun here and I'll not let you dampen my mood.

[thepainterdoug]

Pris/thanks
and to all, I suppose I have been watching a variety of people ,pod casters , anons etc that are all on board with this general idea.

and as crazy as it sounds my best summation is , we are under cog. trump and military are in control, there is an act, a move, a fascade being maintained, with all its fighting and reality being maintained to keep this movie going for the population until there comes a tipping point when the operation is ready. its a world wide operation with many countries on board, even seeming enemies, to rid this deep state out and renew the earth . as I type it, it seems insane, so many variables, but as crazy a thing that it is, Im going with it because quite honestly, everything else seems just as insane to believe. that this thing frail senile joe biden, fetterman, harris and all the other clowns are ruling the greatest country in the world? not for me. id rather subscibe to this other movie

[Pris]

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Posted by BMJ (here)
"What Makes A Good Movie?" ~ Q > Central Casting

Juan O Savin SITREP
18 June 2023


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v2san7i

That was great! I knew that Trump had said "Central Casting" on occasion but I had no idea it was THAT many times!

[atman]

Posted by Pris (here)
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(snip)

Again, you are welcome to stay and waste more of your time watching Derek Johnson videos I'll surely continue to post. Your questions and contrarian views are also welcome. And, if you want "respectful and rational discussions", realize that you yourself may not be coming across as "respectful and rational".

And, yes, I'm having fun here and I'll not let you dampen my mood.

Pris, I am bewildered by your cynical welcoming me to continue to post on this thread, while at the same time you are inviting me to realize that I, myself, "may not be coming across as "respectful and rational"".

I am also bewildered by your replies that bring so much attention on my lack of eloquence and on my seeming contradictions, rather than on the several anomalies and absurdities that I have come across in Derek Johnson's materials and have — with good conscience — shared on this thread as a fellow chronicler of the human awakening...

We are all here to learn and to share, aren't we?

But here I am now pointing the finger to you, so let's knock it off, okay?

(And please do not reply to this message. This thread is neither about you or me.)

[thepainterdoug]

at times, small brush fires ignite, and depending on the wind and the tinder, either create a larger fire, or just peter out

id like to offer some rain fall here!

[Pris]

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Posted by atman (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
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(snip)

Again, you are welcome to stay and waste more of your time watching Derek Johnson videos I'll surely continue to post. Your questions and contrarian views are also welcome. And, if you want "respectful and rational discussions", realize that you yourself may not be coming across as "respectful and rational".

And, yes, I'm having fun here and I'll not let you dampen my mood.

Pris, I am bewildered by your cynical welcoming me to continue to post on this thread, while at the same time you are inviting me to realize that I, myself, "may not be coming across as "respectful and rational"".

I am also bewildered by your replies that bring so much attention on my lack of eloquence and on my seeming contradictions, rather than on the several anomalies and absurdities that I have come across in Derek Johnson's materials and have — with good conscience — shared on this thread as a fellow chronicler of the human awakening...

We are all here to learn and to share, aren't we?

But here I am now pointing the finger to you, so let's knock it off, okay?

(And please do not reply to this message. This thread is neither about you or me.)

You just poked at me and then demand I do not reply when you know I've been pointing out legitimate issues. Yes, please. Knock it off.

[BMJ]

1776 Nation Original 23 June 2023 on facebook

I’ve driven ALL of the border from Texas, to New Mexico, to Arizona, and to California… That wall is BEAUTIFUL and complete 💯
Turn off the BlackBox “News”… they’re under Wartime President code, 47 USC 606. 🇺🇸

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=...24280470450642

And on twitter

[mountain_jim]

perhaps nothing, perhaps unrelated, but this guy was one of the Trump advisors (of sorts) when the election theft went down so will post here...

ℕ𝔼𝕆ℕ ℝ𝔼𝕍𝕆𝕃𝕋
@NeonRevolt

Odd tweet...

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ogk22
@ogk22
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@NeonRevolt this dude is full of ****. He's in with that grifter Tore.

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Kek Monster
@KekMonster
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@NeonRevolt You know, I’ve listened to pat the few times he was interviewed on Dark to Light Podcast. He doesn’t strike me as a bull****ter. Also doesn’t strike me as a partisan type of guy or a guy that really even buys into the way we all see things for what they are. I say that to say that I feel that if he’s saying something like this then I tend to think it will be the case. We shall see.

[Pris]

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Posted by mountain_jim (here)
perhaps nothing, perhaps unrelated, but this guy was one of the trump advisors (of sorts) when the election theft went down so will post here...

ℕ𝔼𝕆ℕ ℝ𝔼𝕍𝕆𝕃𝕋
@neonrevolt

odd tweet...

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ogk22
@ogk22
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@neonrevolt this dude is full of ****. He's in with that grifter tore.

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kek monster
@kekmonster
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@neonrevolt you know, i’ve listened to pat the few times he was interviewed on dark to light podcast. He doesn’t strike me as a bull****ter. Also doesn’t strike me as a partisan type of guy or a guy that really even buys into the way we all see things for what they are. I say that to say that i feel that if he’s saying something like this then i tend to think it will be the case. We shall see.

A former Trump advisor said that... interesting... Noticed a lot of (GAB) trolls hopping on that one which usually means there's something to it (GAB is overrun)... So, something (maybe) about to happen likened to Iwo Jima... less than six months before WW2 ended... I wonder if the time frame is similar to now.

Three days, eh? If it's something, we'll find out shortly.

[Jad]

Maybe it will be the return of Donald Trump to Twitter!