When an Accusation like 'Controlled Opposition' loses its value!

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I would be surprised and want to find out what really happened and why first before having any totally unnecessary emotions like: "rage" "frustrations" "anger" etc.

In my view, postponing judgment and having some patience to wait for more clear insights to come to the surface about what really happened is KEY to have a mature, more grounded approach in almost everything that is important in life.

• Having too many assumptions is the mothers of most fck ups in life.

Assuming it is not because of server issues nor provider issues (mandatory censorship dictated from above) ... not because of hackers etc. etc.

Let's go along with your strain of thoughts that Bill Rayan alone hypothetically made that decision ... I trust him Bill will explain why and what the reasons are ... even if I (respectfully) disagree, that does not make him "controlled opposition".

If anyone is compromised due to threats or (mental) illness or any other external manipulation does not make that person "evil" ... Controlled Opposition is a different strategy for that matter anyway.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

Excellent .... thank you for the reply

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I would be surprised and want to find out what really happened and why first before having any totally unnecessary emotions like: "rage" "frustrations" "anger" etc.

I have no 'rage' or 'frustration' about this concept John .... My question is hypothetical and I ask in order to consider an actual event which happened.
Due to my limited intelligence, I can only come up with 2 considerations and I thought by asking the forum that new options may become apparent to me!

The forum is here to "think" about situations and actions right?
Many minds and all that!

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
In my view, postponing judgment and having some patience to wait for more clear insights to come to the surface about what really happened is KEY to have a mature, more grounded approach in almost everything that is important in life.

OK .... Lets say that you asked Bill "Why have the 1.5 million posts been removed from view?" .... And you got told "I will return them soon".

But after a couple of years (so you did wait in all good faith) the 1.5 million posts never were returned to view!

What would you think or consider about Bill and his actual intent?

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Assuming it is not because of server issues nor provider issues (mandatory censorship dictated from above) ... not because of hackers etc. etc.

Lets say that .... Because of a unique position YOU were in .... You knew that it was NOT down to sever issues nor hackers.
Now it could be down to "providers" .... But Bill would never give you an answer to that question!

What would you think and feel about Bill's actions regarding the 1.5 million posts?

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Let's go along with your strain of thoughts that Bill Rayan alone hypothetically made that decision ... I trust him Bill will explain why and what the reasons are ... even if I (respectfully) disagree, that does not make him "controlled opposition".

BUT .... Bill NEVER discusses the reason .... NOR will give any answer. (<<<< hypothetical situation please recall).

So .... 1.5 MILLION posts have been removed and you cannot get any information as to why after a couple of years!

What do you consider about the actions taken by Bill?

All of this about this forum and Bill is hypothetical .... But it has happened elsewhere and I just wonder why no one (except me it would seem) gives a dam?

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
If it is done by YouTube and/or Facebook ... that already happened to me multiple times losing over 1500+ uploaded videos with about 200+ own productions! Losing 10.000s of my comments too and also losing many subscribers: over 50,000+ of them.

• Then it is a different discussion!

That is my core reason for asking mate ....

Why is it different?

Big social media platform takes down a single post and everyone loses their sh*t.

Big name in alternative media takes down millions of posts .... and no one in the alternative media .... gives a sh*t.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I would be surprised and want to find out what really happened and why first before having any totally unnecessary emotions like: "rage" "frustrations" "anger" etc.

In my view, postponing judgment and having some patience to wait for more clear insights to come to the surface about what really happened is KEY to have a mature, more grounded approach in almost everything that is important in life.

• Having too many assumptions is the mothers of most fck ups in life.

Assuming it is not because of server issues nor provider issues (mandatory censorship dictated from above) ... not because of hackers etc. etc.

Let's go along with your strain of thoughts that Bill Rayan alone hypothetically made that decision ... I trust him Bill will explain why and what the reasons are ... even if I (respectfully) disagree, that does not make him "controlled opposition".

If anyone is compromised due to threats or (mental) illness or any other external manipulation does not make that person "evil" ... Controlled Opposition is a different strategy for that matter anyway.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

Excellent .... thank you for the reply

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I would be surprised and want to find out what really happened and why first before having any totally unnecessary emotions like: "rage" "frustrations" "anger" etc.

I have no 'rage' or 'frustration' about this concept John .... My question is hypothetical and I ask in order to consider an actual event which happened.
Due to my limited intelligence, I can only come up with 2 considerations and I thought by asking the forum that new options may become apparent to me!

The forum is here to "think" about situations and actions right?
Many minds and all that!

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
In my view, postponing judgment and having some patience to wait for more clear insights to come to the surface about what really happened is KEY to have a mature, more grounded approach in almost everything that is important in life.

OK .... Lets say that you asked Bill "Why have the 1.5 million posts been removed from view?" .... And you got told "I will return them soon".

But after a couple of years (so you did wait in all good faith) the 1.5 million posts never were returned to view!

What would you think or consider about Bill and his actual intent?

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Assuming it is not because of server issues nor provider issues (mandatory censorship dictated from above) ... not because of hackers etc. etc.

Lets say that .... Because of a unique position YOU were in .... You knew that it was NOT down to sever issues nor hackers.
Now it could be down to "providers" .... But Bill would never give you an answer to that question!

What would you think and feel about Bill's actions regarding the 1.5 million posts?

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Let's go along with your strain of thoughts that Bill Rayan alone hypothetically made that decision ... I trust him Bill will explain why and what the reasons are ... even if I (respectfully) disagree, that does not make him "controlled opposition".

BUT .... Bill NEVER discusses the reason .... NOR will give any answer. (<<<< hypothetical situation please recall).

So .... 1.5 MILLION posts have been removed and you cannot get any information as to why after a couple of years!

What do you consider about the actions taken by Bill?

All of this about this forum and Bill is hypothetical .... But it has happened elsewhere and I just wonder why no one (except me it would seem) gives a dam?

That issue is with You & Bill (or David Icke), not me and yes I do not give a damn about what happened in the past concerning OTHERS ... Because my life is very VERY complicated already! (you have no idea) ... I can bring you issues of my past and dwell on it forever, or I chose to learn from it and MOVE ON!

Being way too dependent on others is a learning process, start being more self-reliant, always have backup-plans! ... And I can assure you I made sure I have plenty of them.

And from what I can remember (because you brought this issue a couple of years earlier to my attention) Bill had backup issues, and you decided not to trust that answer! ... So that is an issue between you and Bill not me! ... Using me will be impossible, especially when you play certain mind games. Am allergic to that.

I also remembered showing you how to use archive.org system of what you thought is "lost" most can still be found & studied ... even copied to new forums if need be!

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
That issue is with Bill and You not me and yes I do not give a damn about what happened in the past concerning OTHERS ... Because my life is very VERY complicated already! (you have no idea) ... I can bring you issues of my past and dwell on it forever, or I chose to learn from it and MOVE ON!

Being way too dependent on others is a learning process ... learn to be more self-reliant, always have backup-plans! And I can assure you I made sure I have plenty of them.

Ok ... Thanks John for the advice and interaction.

I will leave it here as I think (from the replies (or lack of)) that no one cares about 5.8 MILLION posts being purposely removed from view.

Over a decade of information .... Some may say "Well most of it was just chatter".

Lets say then, at worst, that 1% was highly important information .... of 5.8 million .... so 58,000 HIGHLY IMPORTANT posts of crucial information to the 'real' people here

.... was removed from view ....... and no one cared!

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
That issue is with Bill (or David Icke) and You not me and yes I do not give a damn about what happened in the past concerning OTHERS ... Because my life is very VERY complicated already! (you have no idea) ... I can bring you issues of my past and dwell on it forever, or I chose to learn from it and MOVE ON!

Being way too dependent on others is a learning process ... learn to be more self-reliant, always have backup-plans! And I can assure you I made sure I have plenty of them.

Ok ... Thanks John for the advice and interaction.

I will leave it here as I think (from the replies (or lack of)) that no one cares about 5.8 MILLION posts being purposely removed from view.

Over a decade of information .... Some may say "Well most of it was just chatter".

Lets say then, at worst, that 1% was highly important information .... of 5.8 million .... so 58,000 HIGHLY IMPORTANT posts of crucial information to the 'real' people here

.... was removed from view ....... and no one cared!

I study/research suppressed news & conspiracy research for 33 years now ... Countless very valuable sources having access to huge amount of data, some of it is not even on the internet ... What I have done between 1990 and 1999 before the internet is now used widely ... I slowly saw how much of my deeper insights/data/awareness of my research is copied ALL OVER THE PLACE ... I have used bbs systems (pre internet in late 1980s early 1990s especially "usenet") downloading stuff that became "super viral news" decades later! (let that sink in for a moment) ... So when I see someone claiming something "important" most of it is already shared by others (factor 1000!) ... Having something truly unique is extremely rare as there is so much already written about copied all over the place but IGNORED by mass media!

• All seems "super important" but at the same time most of what you claim >>> is already shared all over the place but not to be found on most mainstream platforms!

Because of having this perspective, I know 100% that most will be found through so many other channels/platforms if it really resonates with the real researchers network.

I have studied over 1000+ conspiracy websites and countless peer2peer file sharing networks (torrents) and the vast majority of it is NOT unique ... So much is already discussed elsewhere. That is why my feeling about this drama is different than you.

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I study/research suppressed news & conspiracy research for 33 years now ... Countless very valuable sources having access to huge amount of data, some of it is not even on the internet ... What I have done between 1990 and 1999 before the internet is now used by widely ... I slowly saw how much of my deeper insights/data/awareness of my research is copied ALL OVER THE PLACE ... I have used bbs systems (pre internet in late 1980s early 1990s especially "usenet") downloading stuff that became "super viral news" decades later! (let that sink in for a moment) ... So when I see someone claiming something "important" most of it is already shared by others (factor 1000!) ... Having something truly unique is extremely rare as there is so much already written about copied all over the place but IGNORED by mass media ...

Thus it all seems "super important" but at the same time most of what you claim that is so important is already shared all over the place but not to be found on most mainstream platforms!

Because of having this perspective, I know 100% that most will be found through so many other channels/platforms if it resonates with the real researchers network. I have studied over 1000+ conspiracy websites and countless peer2peer file sharing networks (torrents) and the vast majority of it is NOT unique ... So much is already discussed elsewhere. That is why my feeling about this drama is different than you.

Bullsh*t .... you did good stuff but not all is saved and available on the internet.

Go look at this thread I saved from the 5.8 million posts removed from view ....

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.ph...of-savile-etc/

If I hadn't 'saved' that .... all that information WOULD be gone or just a little pice here and there!
Not ALL in one place John!

Really John .... Go and find it all!
Find it John.

That took many people shed loads of days to collate.
It is NOT just about the posts (5.8 MILLION) being removed .... How about the countless hours of research put in by loads of people to even create that 'timeline'?

I just shake my head and wonder why intelligent people don't give a sh*t?

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
I study/research suppressed news & conspiracy research for 33 years now ... Countless very valuable sources having access to huge amount of data, some of it is not even on the internet ... What I have done between 1990 and 1999 before the internet is now used by widely ... I slowly saw how much of my deeper insights/data/awareness of my research is copied ALL OVER THE PLACE ... I have used bbs systems (pre internet in late 1980s early 1990s especially "usenet") downloading stuff that became "super viral news" decades later! (let that sink in for a moment) ... So when I see someone claiming something "important" most of it is already shared by others (factor 1000!) ... Having something truly unique is extremely rare as there is so much already written about copied all over the place but IGNORED by mass media ...

Thus it all seems "super important" but at the same time most of what you claim that is so important is already shared all over the place but not to be found on most mainstream platforms!

Because of having this perspective, I know 100% that most will be found through so many other channels/platforms if it resonates with the real researchers network. I have studied over 1000+ conspiracy websites and countless peer2peer file sharing networks (torrents) and the vast majority of it is NOT unique ... So much is already discussed elsewhere. That is why my feeling about this drama is different than you.

Bullsh*t .... you did good stuff but not all is saved and available on the internet.

Go look at this thread I saved from the 5.8 million posts removed from view ....

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.ph...of-savile-etc/

If I hadn't 'saved' that .... all that information WOULD be gone or just a little pice here and there!
Not ALL in one place John!

Really John .... Go and find it all!
Find it John.

That took many people shed loads of days to collate.
It is NOT just about the posts (5.8 MILLION) being removed .... How about the countless hours of research put in by loads of people to even create that 'timeline'?

I just shake my head and wonder why intelligent people don't give a sh*t?

Ah so why not be open & frank from the get go ... why playing mind games?

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Ah so why not be open & frank from the get go ... why playing mind games?

No mind games John .... I asked a question (only one member answered my question) and you do not answer unless with another question!

I am utterly open and frank ....

Why do you not care about the removal of millions of posts which took hundreds of millions of hours for real people to research?

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Ah so why not be open & frank from the get go ... why playing mind games?

No mind games John .... I asked a question (only one member answered my question) and you do not answer unless with another question!

I am utterly open and frank ....

Why do you not care about the removal of millions of posts which took hundreds of millions of hours for real people to research?

It was David Icke you do not trust ... so you have issues with him and you, that's all there is ... I wrongly assumed it was about Bill an You that is my fault/error ... That is how mind games are played ... It seems you enjoy tricking people!

For me, it is not a big deal for all the reasons I already explained, you refuse to comprehend.

Go dwell on it with somebody else please and grow up!
Learn from your mistakes (dependency issues) and move on!

Have some self-respect ... start something from your own efforts, not depending solely on a David Icke platform!

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Ah so why not be open & frank from the get go ... why playing mind games?

It was David Icke you do not trust ... so you have issues with him and you, that's all there is ... I wrongly assumed it was about Bill that is my fault/error ... That is how mind games are played ... It seems you enjoy tricking people!

For me, it is not a big deal for all the reasons I already explained, you refuse to comprehend.

Go dwell on it with somebody else please and grow up!
Learn from your mistakes (dependency issues) and move on!


Have some self-respect ... start something from your own efforts!

You are funny John .... You make a reply and then change it everytime lol

I said in my posts (MULTIPLE TIMES) that it was NOT about Bill or this forum .... That it was HYPOTHETICAL!

Guess you missed that .... multiple times .... even though I didn't re-write my posts as you do lol.

As to "growing up" .... Ego is not my thing (I just ask questions which some people do not want to answer) but just looking at the tag cloud for this forum .... It is yours

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Ah so why not be open & frank from the get go ... why playing mind games?

It was David Icke you do not trust ... so you have issues with him and you, that's all there is ... I wrongly assumed it was about Bill that is my fault/error ... That is how mind games are played ... It seems you enjoy tricking people!

For me, it is not a big deal for all the reasons I already explained, you refuse to comprehend.

Go dwell on it with somebody else please and grow up!
Learn from your mistakes (dependency issues) and move on!


Have some self-respect ... start something from your own efforts!

You are funny John .... You make a reply and then change it everytime lol

I said in my posts (MULTIPLE TIMES) that it was NOT about Bill or this forum .... That it was HYPOTHETICAL!

Guess you missed that .... multiple times .... even though I didn't re-write my posts as you do lol.

As to "growing up" .... Ego is not my thing (I just ask questions which some people do not want to answer) but just looking at the tag cloud for this forum .... It is yours

It takes an ego to finger point at another ego ... ego is just a tool to express your uniqueness ... it can be used for good (being genuine authentic & caring) and for bad (being egotistical) both are "ego's" ... just a tool!

• Move on and start creating your own thing, be less of a crybaby dwelling in the past! ... You can do it ... am sure of it!

[ExomatrixTV]

Not all is "lost" see among others:

• web.archive.org/web/20190601000000*/https://forum.davidicke.com

... and MOST is not "unique" most is also discussed on other platforms, countless free PDFs, peer2peer file sharing networks torrents, enormity of very insightful conspiracy research videos on: Rumble, Bitchute & Odysee ... 1000s of websites on all kinds of (highly) controversial topics!

• When you study this "lost" page it is not that different from Project Avalon Forum Topics ... so how much of it is also discussed here? Maybe with even better replies & practical tips!

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Not all is "lost" see among others:

• web.archive.org/web/20190601000000*/https://forum.davidicke.com

... and MOST is not "unique" most is also discussed on other platforms, countless free PDFs, peer2peer file sharing networks torrents, enormity of very insightful conspiracy research videos on: Rumble, Bitchute & Odysee ... 1000s of websites on all kinds of (highly) controversial topics!

• When you study this "lost" page it is not that different from Project Avalon Forum Topics ... so how much of it is also discussed here? Maybe with even better replies & practical tips!

So I clicked on 8 of the supposed saved archives from your link John .... NOT ONE GIVES ANY INFORMATION JOHN!

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Come on John .... Not one link to the information which was deleted!

NOT ONE.

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I gave you a link John .... Show me that information elsewhere John

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.ph...of-savile-etc/

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Not all is "lost" see among others:

• web.archive.org/web/20190601000000*/https://forum.davidicke.com

... and MOST is not "unique" most is also discussed on other platforms, countless free PDFs, peer2peer file sharing networks torrents, enormity of very insightful conspiracy research videos on: Rumble, Bitchute & Odysee ... 1000s of websites on all kinds of (highly) controversial topics!

• When you study this "lost" page it is not that different from Project Avalon Forum Topics ... so how much of it is also discussed here? Maybe with even better replies & practical tips!

So I clicked on 8 of the supposed saved archives from your link John .... NOT ONE GIVES ANY INFORMATION JOHN!

It shows it is not that "unique" (nor "so special") especially when you are whining about here on Project Avalon Forum with a vast treasure of very similar (partly the same) topics & content ... To me, it is nothing "exclusively" special, really! ... Unless you can provide me with some 100% unique examples ...

Learn from mistakes (having David Icke dependency issues), MOVE ON ... Start living in self-reliance, set a new example by doing your own thing is FAR better than dwelling in the past forever.

[lake]

You have it ALL John .... You say it is ALL over the internet ....

Timeline Of Savile

Come on John .... Show me were I can find ALL that information I gave you a link to?

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by lake (here)
You have it ALL John .... You say it is ALL over the internet ....

Timeline Of Savile

Come on John .... Show me were I can find ALL that information I gave you a link to?

It shows it is not that "unique" (nor "so special") especially when you are whining about here on Project Avalon Forum with a vast treasure of very similar (partly the same) topics & content ... To me, it is nothing "exclusively" special, really! ... Unless you can provide me with some 100% unique examples ...

Learn from mistakes (having David Icke dependency issues), MOVE ON ... Start living in self-reliance, set a new example by doing your own thing is FAR better than dwelling in the past forever.

• No need to be a crybaby!

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by lake (here)

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Not all is "lost" see among others:

• web.archive.org/web/20190601000000*/https://forum.davidicke.com

... and MOST is not "unique" most is also discussed on other platforms, countless free PDFs, peer2peer file sharing networks torrents, enormity of very insightful conspiracy research videos on: Rumble, Bitchute & Odysee ... 1000s of websites on all kinds of (highly) controversial topics!

• When you study this "lost" page it is not that different from Project Avalon Forum Topics ... so how much of it is also discussed here? Maybe with even better replies & practical tips!

So I clicked on 8 of the supposed saved archives from your link John .... NOT ONE GIVES ANY INFORMATION JOHN!

It shows it is not that "unique" (nor "so special") especially when you are whining about here on Project Avalon Forum with a vast treasure of very similar (partly the same) topics & content ... To me, it is nothing "exclusively" special, really! ... Unless you can provide me with some 100% unique examples ...


Learn from mistakes (having David Icke dependency issues), MOVE ON ... Start living in self-reliance, set a new example by doing your own thing is FAR better than dwelling in the past forever.

Your trying to 'knock' me John .... just make me smile!

Meaningless!

You said that the information was all over the internet .... fine.

You gave links to archives which give ZERO information John.

So I ask you again .... I gave you a link to deleted information .... Where is it on the internet John?

[ExomatrixTV]

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• Almost everything that is really important CAN be found!

Grow up, move on! Do your own thing!

If you have dependency issues, go to the source of it, no use bothering others with it!

• Total waste of our time!

[lake]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
Small sample of empowering possibilities we have in 2023:

openlibrary.org
open library is an open, editable library catalog, building towards a web page for every book ever published. read, borrow, and discover more than 3 million free books.

researchgate.net
access 135+ million publications and connect with 20+ million researchers. join for free and gain visibility by uploading your research.

pdfdrive.com
pdf drive is your search engine for pdf files. we have 83,346,240+ ebooks for you to download for free. no annoying ads, no download limits

yumpu.com
yumpu releases magazines, documents and catalogs on the internet. publish for free. gain new readers and costumers worldwide.

• Almost everything that is really important CAN be found!

Grow up, move on! Do your own thing!

If you have dependency issues, go to the source of it, no use bothering others with it!

• Total waste of our time!

Oh dear .... lol .... where is the Savile information John which you say can be found all over the internet?

I guess that you will just not answer again as .... you can't find it?

[PlasmaVortex]

Not sure what's taking place here, but at the same time I'm strangely compelled to bear witness to this struggle of wills between two heavyweights of the forum