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    Default Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    When Google first arrived on the scene I admired their intellectual wherewithal to harness that much information. To offer it free of charge was phenomenal. It wasn't hard to see that it would in short order change the world and hopefully for the better, but, as with all things there is a dark side. For me, the dark side started to become visible in 2016 and has continued to slowly emerge until today. It is harder to access political information unless you agree with Google politics. Some information has been forever removed from the internet and freedom of speech is teetering on the brink of collapse primarily from the policies of Google. Facebook, Twitter and even TikToc have been thrust under the spotlight but Google (the biggest offender) has gotten a free pass until now.

    We must keep in mind that Google is nothing more than an advertising company.

    A lawsuit claims Google has been 'secretly stealing everything ever created and shared on the internet by hundreds of millions of Americans' to train its AI
    • A lawsuit claims Google took people's data without their knowledge or consent to train its AI products.
    • The lawsuit accuses Google of "secretly stealing everything ever created and shared on the internet."
    • The law firm recently filed a similar proposed class-action suit against ChatGPT creator OpenAI.


    A new lawsuit claims that Google has been "secretly stealing everything ever created and shared on the internet by hundreds of millions of Americans" to train its generative AI products like its chatbot Bard.

    The proposed class-action lawsuit, filed by Clarkson Law Firm in the US District Court for the Northern District of California on Tuesday, accused Google, AI sister company DeepMind, and parent company Alphabet of taking people's data without their knowledge or consent.

    "Google has taken all our personal and professional information, our creative and copywritten works, our photographs, and even our emails — virtually the entirety of our digital footprint" to build its AI products, the lawsuit claims.

    "For years, Google harvested this data in secret, without notice or consent from anyone."

    This includes data taken from subscription-based websites and from websites known for pirated collections of books and creative works, the lawsuit alleges.

    The complaint also refers to an update to Google's privacy policy from July 1, which says that it may collect information that's "publicly available online" to train its AI models and build products like Google Translate, Bard, and Cloud AI capabilities.

    "Google must understand, once and for all: it does not own the internet, it does not own our creative works, it does not own our expressions of our personhood, pictures of our families and children, or anything else simply because we share it online," the lawsuit says. "'Publicly available' has never meant free to use for any purpose."

    Google did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment on the suit, but in a statement given to Reuters, called the claims in the suit "baseless."

    Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/goog...lawsuit-2023-7
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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    • Justice Department Files Lawsuit Against Google Over Digital Advertising:

    • Google’s Ad Tech Business Is Sued Over Antitrust Concerns | WSJ Tech News Briefing:

    A class action lawsuit filed in California federal court Tuesday alleges that Google, its parent company Alphabet, and its AI subsidiary DeepMind scraped millions of users’ data without their consent to build its AI models. The complaint also accuses Google of violating copyright laws by stealing users’ creative and copywritten works to train its AI models.
    • Google Accused Of Stealing Users’ Data To Train Its Ai Tools In Class Action Lawsuit:

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v2wwjxw/?pub=1hi16y
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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    They have always said since the middle 199o's: "If you don't want to lose it, don't put it online."

    This lawsuit is not going to fix this problem. Google intended to be an index of everything from the get go. Freeware and open source were the original ideas of the internet, sharing was paramount and encouraged. That is until commerce exploded due to high contact and ease of access. People were blinded by dollar signs; especially if they were prepared to meet demand.

    What this will really boil down to is money. Those who make it and those who don't and I think the ones who don't are sore over it. Google is lawyered up.
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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    I can't comment on these allegations but it's interesting (and not surprising) to hear. Elon Musk has been warning folks about Google's AI for years.

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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    The companies named for censoring, such as Facebook, etc., all appear to be owned by Rockefeller family people which I associate with the Busch Gang of Nazi's who are said to have been granted the Headship of the world Corporation Pyramid by the USA after they won the war against Admiral Byrd at the South Pole in 1953 using their UFO's. Their entire mentality is top-down Control and their Agenda has always been Total Control and Ownership of Earth, using the spaceship help of Earth Reptilians. All their bogus stuff about Climate, etc., is so much BS used to eliminate all of humanity, but themselves, here and on the planets

    it is claimed they have already populated in our Universe. What about the 2 billion Aldebarans they have purportedly given permission to take residence and mining rights in the Congo, Africa, disguised with black skins??? In my opinion, it is time to give the lot of them the BOOT before they DO US ALL IN. Total INFORMATION CONTROL leading to all other control and GENOCIDE OF HUMANS is their entire intention. Wake up humanity!!!
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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    Personally, I think most of the internet looks like a crime scene, regardless of what search engine one uses. For example, I study aquatic plants. When I look up a species, almost every article uses the same words and phrases in the same order. If I ask a specific question regarding the species, I get the same information--even if the answer to that question isn't contained in that 'species profile'. If I want to buy the plant, I may get the information in a different order--but rarely do I read anything new. Were I to go on youtube to look for that plant, I could choose from a wide array of videos in which most of the creators parrot the same information. This is how I end up on sites like Project Avalon, simply looking for a new arrangement of words, or possibly a different narrative. While it may be true that 'there is nothing new under the sun', there was a time when one might feel compelled to describe the sun in a way that is different from other attempts. I do hope this internet experience is a transient one, because as it stands today, even the sun is a product to be exploited--and probably a racist zealot to be blotted out for safety reasons. The real crime is an erasure of creativity, with a heavy intention to sell products. I'm not sure our judicial system could handle the case, especially with the last several generations using this same internet in order to perceive what is true. Perhaps living with the loss of genuine integrity in our culture is a greater sentence than any ruling a court could decide upon. I truly value those who share notes, perceptions, and ideas that arise from original thought. They are like suns unto themselves, downvoted as they may be. I may have no interest in the subject matter, but to not read plagiarism today is a true joy.

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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    Am actually a bit surprised that "Google" servers didn't do this themselves already noting Google also has had access to scan almost every single library and rare book collection for well over a decade. Google, Amaon and others are contracted data centres for government, banks, businesses, militaries and combined with "backdoors" in most, if not all, hardware and major software the data gathered I expect the sum total of ALL ( or close to all) human knowledge is stored and everything new is copied in "real time"

    My new computer is far slower than my win7 PC...I think it is all the competing spyware, trackers and backdoors conflicting with one another It is NOT just sloppy coding or bloatware.

    Remember......"they" are at LEAST 50 years ahead of consumer or business technologies. They are exponentially ahead of us in all things. Any AI we have access to is a drolling baby comapred to what "big data" is using. The implications are enormously Dangerous.

    Does anyone recall the "experiencer" who fell asleep and woke up in someone else's body in the future? People lived in floating cities...
    That future was ruled by AI's. entirely "benevolent" but with absolute control. No money, everyone was "happy" and these AI's ( served/managed by some type of techno-priest engineers) repeatedly rebuffed Alien contact.

    Bit more heartening than the Matrix, less horrifying than Star Trek Borg...I tend to think his time in the future was probably a "potential future" but not a likely one.

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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    It is now, has been, and will continue to be, the end of the world as we know it

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    Default Re: Lawsuit Claims Google Has Been Secretly Stealing Everything Ever Created

    I can see how they could easily feed that data into an AI algorithm interface.

    As a system designer and builder, I built a few search engine systems in the past, these were for mostly single domain name websites. With AI you need lots of data so that you can train the algorithm. They only work on past data, they can forecast the future with high probability, but still, that is based on past data. It would not surprise me that the first AI engines would be from the search engine companies such as Google, Bing, Yandex, and others...



    This is what I use for search engine projects.

    https://solr.apache.org/

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