You think you are a god?

[greybeard]

In humility till you know what you are, you humbly ask the One who knows to remove the obstacles to that knowing.
There are no contradictions just levels of perception.
Till You (higher Self) holds up the mirror of truth to view yourself you dont know.
Those who know say it cant be spoken of only experienced.
Respectfully we are talking about therefore we dont know,

Namaste

[Maria Stade]

Go back back back ......

To the ONE not ever damaged.

The spark that is YOU !

The heart will show you the way if you are listening !

Know your self know who you are !

Start Now !

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9_ALElMLpRA

Namaste

[Revere]

Be kind to Humanalien.

I bet he really meant no harm and only acted from his point of reference in his personal journey. At least he cares enough for you that he wanted to point out what I believe he thought may help others. We are in times of Truth and falsities standing side by side. But, only God knows his, mine and your heart. I am in place to judge no one. He is human, as I saw others are as well in their reflexive response. The old calling the kettle black parable or point out the splinter in your neighbor’s eye while ignoring the plank in our own may apply here. For so many of us claiming enlightenment here, we all should practice more turning the other cheek a lot more often. Those who always need to bight back to defend their ego will stand in the appropriate light. As well as those of you, who took the high road and cared not to throw the first stone and expressed your opinion with love.

God is so big so wonderful and full of Love. If we truly seek him he is there, here and everywhere. We are all as blind men holding a tail of an elephant and claiming we have God figured out from our human experiences to date. Let your light shine with the Love. Let it shine from those among us that have a dynamic relationship with God. We are all becoming if we seek God and only a fool claims he has arrived. Please take it easy on each other’s organized Religion as well. The abuses that have come from history are by men living in service to themselves and bending Truths for their own gain. It was not the fault of that set of beliefs but, of that set of involved humanity.

Yes, you can tell I consider myself a Christian, a spiritual Christian not quite in sync with the earthly organized institution organized by men. It hurts me and others when the common assumption is that my or your brand of faith led to murder, wars and miss deeds. But, it did not from its own precepts and Truths. Evil self serving men did those deeds and atrocities under its name. Spiritual Muslims probably feel the same way. So, let's be kind to each other’s point of reference and pray that we all find God and truly develop a relationship of responsible love with Him/Her/IT. “You’ll know them by the fruits of their labor.”

Peace & Love,
-R-

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by humanalien (here)
Obviously, their isn't one among you that believe in God,
the one and only creator.

For some of you:
You all would rather believe that aliens, of many different
species created you and they have endowed you with the
power to go on to the next level of consciousness, with
their help.

For the charles believers:
You would rather believe that charles has a machine that
can do many miraculous things to the human mind.

You would rather believe that charles has a 5000 year old
human master than believe in God.

When is the last time you saw a 5000 year old human?
I for one never have.

These stories are by far, are more ridiculous than
believing in God.

It doesn't bother me that you don't believe in God.
To each his/her own as the saying goes but to believe
the stuff that charles has been saying is very childish.

You have a brain. Please use it......

actually, you know nothing of the gnostic to say they don't believe in God, the Essenes were gnostic and Jesus lived with them from his early teens to mid 20s...

[humanalien]

It's obvious that i ruffled a few feathers in here but please
believe me that this wasn't my intent. I'm not here acting
as a forum disruptor as some of you may think. Just because
i say something you don't like, are you always going to put
that label on me?

I do see some of your points of view though and i will admit
that i made a couple of statements that i should have never
made and i do deeply apologize for it. I didn't mean to hurt
anyone's feelings here so please forgive me.

I'm fighting a personal battle inside me right now and it's
tearing me apart. I was brought up to believe in God and i
even read the bible, twice. In my later teen years and on
up to present, i've been reading alot about ufo's and aliens
and i was willing to accept the fact that maybe God created
more than just humans in this universe. After all, we can
possibly know every thing God has ever done, just like you
all can't possibly know everything that your parents have
ever done in their lifetime. There-fore i accepted aliens as
one of Gods many creations.

As i studied more and more about them, i started hearing the
stories about many different alien races making a claim that
they are the ones that created human life. At this point, the
battle for my soul began, although i didn't know it yet.

After a little battle with-in, i was finally willing to give it a second
thought and start thinking that maybe we are in a sense, all alien
to this planet. Maybe we all, do have some sort of special abilities
that were put into our dna by the aliens and now they are here trying
to get us to unleash these hidden talents.

As i did further study of aliens, i began finding stories about our creation
that i was just getting to be to much to believe. For instance:

One story i read a few years back, was saying that and alien race, "can't
remember the species right now", were saying that all human life came
from a machine that they built. They just program the machine to any type
of human they wanted and started it up and out the back end, a human would
pop out. That has got to be one of the most ridiculous stories i have ever read.

Anyway, to make a long story short, i've ran across a lot of stories that just totally
make no sense at all and are a total insult to everyones intelligence.

After reading all these stories and the ones that are currently coming out, my
God complex starts coming out and fighting with me and every fiber of my being
is saying that God is the way to go. It's the only thing that make sense to me.

Now that i have shown you a little portion of myself to you, maybe now, you
can understand where i am coming from and also understand that i am not
here as a forum disruptor. I'm just trying to find out why some of you believe
the way you do sense God makes so much more sense to me.

Before i forget, someone here wanted to know why my name is humanalien.

As a teenager, i used to live by a set of railroad tracks. I used to walk these
tracks a lot and just think to myself about many things. I had enough friends
as a teen but i always felt that i never belonged with them or fit in. I used to
walk those tracks and think to myself that i don't belong here "referring to planet
earth". Although i had friends, i just didn't fit in with the crowd. I knew that i
didn't belong with them.

I've had this female friend of mine that i've known almost, all of my life. We
grew up together. I know here family very well and most of her friends and we
all get along just fine. My friend use to have me over to her house all the time
for cook-outs with her and her family. Probably starting around ten years ago,
that feeling of not belonging began hitting me real hard. My last cook-out with
her was about five years ago and it was a bad experience. It was such a very hot
day that the picnic tables were placed inside of her large garage. For me though,
that feeling of not belonging was so strong that i choose to sit outside, up against
the garage wall where the sun was beating down real hard. One woman there must
have realized that something was wrong with me and came out to try and talk with
me but that didn't help at all. A few minutes later, i left. I haven't been back since.

Still believing in aliens and seeing that my outward appearance is human and the
fact that i believe that i am not from this planet, originally, i put the names human
and alien together to sum up what i thought i really was or am. Still deciding on that
one. But anyway, that name stuck with me.

If you don't understand where i'm coming from yet, let me know.

[humanalien]

Posted by Revere (here)
Be kind to Humanalien.

I bet he really meant no harm and only acted from his point of reference in his personal journey. At least he cares enough for you that he wanted to point out what I believe he thought may help others. We are in times of Truth and falsities standing side by side. But, only God knows his, mine and your heart. I am in place to judge no one. He is human, as I saw others are as well in their reflexive response. The old calling the kettle black parable or point out the splinter in your neighbor’s eye while ignoring the plank in our own may apply here. For so many of us claiming enlightenment here, we all should practice more turning the other cheek a lot more often. Those who always need to bight back to defend their ego will stand in the appropriate light. As well as those of you, who took the high road and cared not to throw the first stone and expressed your opinion with love.

God is so big so wonderful and full of Love. If we truly seek him he is there, here and everywhere. We are all as blind men holding a tail of an elephant and claiming we have God figured out from our human experiences to date. Let your light shine with the Love. Let it shine from those among us that have a dynamic relationship with God. We are all becoming if we seek God and only a fool claims he has arrived. Please take it easy on each other’s organized Religion as well. The abuses that have come from history are by men living in service to themselves and bending Truths for their own gain. It was not the fault of that set of beliefs but, of that set of involved humanity.

Yes, you can tell I consider myself a Christian, a spiritual Christian not quite in sync with the earthly organized institution organized by men. It hurts me and others when the common assumption is that my or your brand of faith led to murder, wars and miss deeds. But, it did not from its own precepts and Truths. Evil self serving men did those deeds and atrocities under its name. Spiritual Muslims probably feel the same way. So, let's be kind to each other’s point of reference and pray that we all find God and truly develop a relationship of responsible love with Him/Her/IT. “You’ll know them by the fruits of their labor.”

Peace & Love,
-R-

Thank-you Revere

In my own way, that is exactly what i was trying to do. I do understand
now that i did a very poor job of getting my point across and i do apologize.

[Lettherebelight]

@ Truthseeker,

I did not say that God needs servants...

I simply said that I am an eternal servant of God..(in a mood of loving servitude.)

But I must amend that, and say that I am aspiring to be the servant
of the servant
of the servant (etc) of God.
I must stress that I'm still at the aspirational stage!

I don't like the sound of 'religiousness' either

Namaste also to you

[Arpheus]

You are doing just fine humanalien keep your chin up brother!

[Houman]

Some questions to keep in mind...

- Why are the people at the top of the ladder warlocks and witches?
- Why do they sacrifice people?
- Who are those human (but ugly) looking looking entities that they invoke during their rituals?
- Who are those half humans (living among us) birthed from the intercourse of a human mother and an ugly one described above.
- Why 10% of the population suffers from MPD caused by trauma based mind control. 2% of those are demonized super-soldiers and call themselves "chosen ones"...
- Why was Hitler into "New Age"?
- What is going on in those 100,000 Satanic Covens in the US?
- Why is the focus on perversion and debasement? What is the end goal?
- Are those entities behind the veil of a single group or is there a war going on there too?
- If thoughts and curses have a real effect, what are witches and warlocks doing on forums such as this one or in disclosure conferences?
- If they are far more ancient, how do you know the difference between demons and inter-dimensional malevolent entities (looking at this reality as a virtual one)
- If they are far more ancient, how do you know the difference between angels and benevolent Ets?
- How do you know that you have not been deceived especially if they are far more advanced?
- How do you know where that channeled message is coming from? are you sure about that? What/who was Alice Bailey channeling?
- To control a population you need to control both parties, is that true at a spiritual level too?
- How far/deep does the deception go?
- Is there a confrontation going on at the level of the creator of this universe? what are the parties involved? what is the role of humanity? are we receiving help? if yes in which form? by whom? what are our response-abilities?
...

[humanalien]

One thing i forgot to clarify is that although i do believe
in God, religion is another matter and maybe we shouldn't
clump the two together.

The bible, as with many other religious text, have been fooled
with. I feel that a lot of it was changed to suit the needs of the
religious leaders, so i guess we should just use good judgment
when trying to discern the text. This is the trouble i have right
now.

I try to find passages that will benefit mankind and not the ones
that benefit one man or one religion.

[humanalien]

Posted by Houman (here)
Some questions to keep in mind...

- Why are the people at the top of the ladder warlocks and witches?
- Why do they sacrifice people?
- Who are those human (but ugly) looking looking entities that they invoke during their rituals?
- Who are those half humans (living among us) birthed from the intercourse of a human mother and an ugly one described above.
- Why 10% of the population suffers from MPD caused by trauma based mind control. 2% of those are demonized super-soldiers and call themselves "chosen ones"...
- Why was Hitler into "New Age"?
- What is going on in those 100,000 Satanic Covens in the US?
- Why is the focus on perversion and debasement? What is the end goal?
- Are those entities behind the veil of a single group or is there a war going on there too?
- If thoughts and curses have a real effect, what are witches and warlocks doing on forums such as this one or in disclosure conferences?
- If they are far more ancient, how do you know the difference between demons and inter-dimensional malevolent entities (looking at this reality as a virtual one)
- If they are far more ancient, how do you know the difference between angels and benevolent Ets?
- How do you know that you have not been deceived especially if they are far more advanced?
- How do you know where that channeled message is coming from? are you sure about that? What/who was Alice Bailey channeling?
- To control a population you need to control both parties, is that true at a spiritual level too?
- How far/deep does the deception go?
- Is there a confrontation going on at the level of the creator of this universe? what are the parties involved? what is the role of humanity? are we receiving help? if yes in which form? by whom? what are our response-abilities?
...

Those are some very valid points. I'd like to see the answer to some of these questions.

[InCiDeR]

I noticed I was a bit unclear Probably I am as confused as usual, my humble apologies!

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
Discussion without sniping should be encouraged here! The key ingredient is a little bit of sincerity, which you clearly have ( not meaning to be patronising)

Quoted for truth. No worries, Dear aroundthetable, I didn’t believe you were patronising.

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
Could i just make clear first that i am not concocting these statements myself, they are from vedic scriptures which i personally find fantastic.

I agree, the vedic scriptures are very interesting.

To be honest, I selldom speak from my point of view. Sometimes I wonder if I really have a point of view, ”The entity without qualities”!

My chaotic brain mix a compound of all I’ve ever read, heard, dreamt, visioned, analysed and thought… then the outcome will be different almost every time. I often make a stand just to stimulate a discussion. I believe it is my way of growing, learning and understanding, and hopefully the other part will find some seeds as well.

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
So....your brain!!!! Your brain cells are a part of your body but they are not you, just like if you cut off your finger...you still remain you...so you are not your body, the body is material, we are not

I realize I was a bit unclear. I didn’t mean my brain cells literally. If I imagine my mind, body, soul and spirit like a mini-universe. All the different parts it contains are all a part of me, and all together they are me as whole. I can not be outside that mini-universe, if that is the case then the mini-universe will be a part of me… and so on, infinite.

The same goes for God as I view it. Therefore one could say ”I am God, God is me. We are God, God is us. Everything is God, God is everything. You are me, we are all.”

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
Your purpose?... well..that is up to you! we have free will, BUT!! If we are talking about getting to know God, then im afraid you cannot do this by your own efforts alone, God gives us the intelligence by which to know him, but this requires sincerity on our part.

Once more I was a bit unclear, I have to train my brain better!

You said ”The purpose is not to try and fully comprehend God, but comprehend that part which our limited intelligence can perceive”…. How do you know that this is the purpose? Therefore my statement: ”If I can not fully comprehend God, would I then be able to know what my purpose are to comprehend?”. It might be like "God is, it has no purpose"!

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
Personally i was dragged kicking and screaming, but the worst times in my life ended up being the best!! It is a very subtle process of self realisation, so subtle that the kick the door down controller mentality will completely miss it.

Totally with you on this!


Thank you aroundthetable, you make my heart smile with your polite and kind manners!


Truthfully and honest / Thomas

[InCiDeR]

humanalien, I feel you! I recognized very much in your story, it made my soul twist in agony and compassion at the same time. Here you are not alone, never been, never will!

I am honored for you being here and sharing your thoughts.

Love and light / Thomas

[Kra]

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
Perhaps all the would be gods would kindly create a planet juss for a tiny demo, ok how about a blade of grass?

Could you please... ask the same from "your GOD" ? just a tiny demo.

[Chuck]

Thank you humanalien for sharing a very personal experience. A bit presumptuous of me perhaps but would you describe your current situation as being disillusioned?

The only reason I ask is because if you are, then I totally understand. I (and most likely most Avalonians) have full empathy for anyone experiencing that.

You see, I was brought up Catholic … a good one, heheheh. I lived with a priest for 3 years while attending university with the idea of joining the seminary. I studied theology, philosophy. To make a long story short, I did not join the seminary, instead began a very long process of deprogramming. I traveled far and wide, read voraciously … and became VERY dis-illusioned!!! It is an appropriate term because it was an end to illusions, lies, belief systems… everything that I held dear and important in my life… what I thought were rocks of truth… were suddenly gone. I had no frame of reference. Very scary. I would not wish it on anyone. Yet, it was a sacred baptism of fire. To begin to trust the inner light within, the still small voice, no matter what is taught to the contrary on the outside.

Most everyone on this planet, I suspect will have to go through that to some degree: the process of disillusionment. I suspect that we should prepare ourselves to help those going through it in the days to come. It will be chaos… gnashing of teeth, heheheh when entire nations begin to unravel the truth. Not merely the truth of political and economic tyrants but the truth behind religion, God, science, law, education, aliens… everything!

Avalon, lift up thy sword of truth. Protect and defend the path of righteousness (right use of mind) and freedom.

… or … just chill

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by humanalien (here)
It's obvious that i ruffled a few feathers in here but please
believe me that this wasn't my intent. I'm not here acting
as a forum disruptor as some of you may think. Just because
i say something you don't like, are you always going to put
that label on me?

I do see some of your points of view though and i will admit
that i made a couple of statements that i should have never
made and i do deeply apologize for it. I didn't mean to hurt
anyone's feelings here so please forgive me.

I'm fighting a personal battle inside me right now and it's
tearing me apart. I was brought up to believe in God and i
even read the bible, twice. In my later teen years and on
up to present, i've been reading alot about ufo's and aliens
and i was willing to accept the fact that maybe God created
more than just humans in this universe. After all, we can
possibly know every thing God has ever done, just like you
all can't possibly know everything that your parents have
ever done in their lifetime. There-fore i accepted aliens as
one of Gods many creations.

As i studied more and more about them, i started hearing the
stories about many different alien races making a claim that
they are the ones that created human life. At this point, the
battle for my soul began, although i didn't know it yet.

After a little battle with-in, i was finally willing to give it a second
thought and start thinking that maybe we are in a sense, all alien
to this planet. Maybe we all, do have some sort of special abilities
that were put into our dna by the aliens and now they are here trying
to get us to unleash these hidden talents.

As i did further study of aliens, i began finding stories about our creation
that i was just getting to be to much to believe. For instance:

One story i read a few years back, was saying that and alien race, "can't
remember the species right now", were saying that all human life came
from a machine that they built. They just program the machine to any type
of human they wanted and started it up and out the back end, a human would
pop out. That has got to be one of the most ridiculous stories i have ever read.

Anyway, to make a long story short, i've ran across a lot of stories that just totally
make no sense at all and are a total insult to everyones intelligence.

After reading all these stories and the ones that are currently coming out, my
God complex starts coming out and fighting with me and every fiber of my being
is saying that God is the way to go. It's the only thing that make sense to me.

Now that i have shown you a little portion of myself to you, maybe now, you
can understand where i am coming from and also understand that i am not
here as a forum disruptor. I'm just trying to find out why some of you believe
the way you do sense God makes so much more sense to me.

Before i forget, someone here wanted to know why my name is humanalien.

As a teenager, i used to live by a set of railroad tracks. I used to walk these
tracks a lot and just think to myself about many things. I had enough friends
as a teen but i always felt that i never belonged with them or fit in. I used to
walk those tracks and think to myself that i don't belong here "referring to planet
earth". Although i had friends, i just didn't fit in with the crowd. I knew that i
didn't belong with them.

I've had this female friend of mine that i've known almost, all of my life. We
grew up together. I know here family very well and most of her friends and we
all get along just fine. My friend use to have me over to her house all the time
for cook-outs with her and her family. Probably starting around ten years ago,
that feeling of not belonging began hitting me real hard. My last cook-out with
her was about five years ago and it was a bad experience. It was such a very hot
day that the picnic tables were placed inside of her large garage. For me though,
that feeling of not belonging was so strong that i choose to sit outside, up against
the garage wall where the sun was beating down real hard. One woman there must
have realized that something was wrong with me and came out to try and talk with
me but that didn't help at all. A few minutes later, i left. I haven't been back since.

Still believing in aliens and seeing that my outward appearance is human and the
fact that i believe that i am not from this planet, originally, i put the names human
and alien together to sum up what i thought i really was or am. Still deciding on that
one. But anyway, that name stuck with me.

If you don't understand where i'm coming from yet, let me know.

Ok, I think I know where you are.
Your higher self seems to be trying to help you escape ''systems'' but you are fighting it.
This conflict is where you feel that personal battle.
If I could make a couple of suggestions;
1 is to let go of the rope and let your higher self guide you.
2 go back and make things right with your friend. I sense a feeling of guilt in you over it, fix it, because I think she
wonders what happened.
3 realise that even if we appear to be rattling your cage, there is no wisdom in remaining static.

If this isn't the best forum for you, then I don't know what is.
Do what I do, take in as much as you can from the people here, they know more than us and allow your higher self to filter it for you.
You will be much richer for it.
As my sig says, trust me.

Posted by Houman (here)
Some questions to keep in mind...

- Why was Hitler into "New Age"?
...

Where did you get this idea from?

[yaksuit]

Posted by apollo41 (here)
To many people? oopps i mean sheople? believe this charles character...
I for one think he is a shady character, some truth and some disinfo? just to keep you interested!!!

Howdy apollo41,
I don't intend to nitpick in a personal way with this reply, but you provided me the following impetus.

Your brief statement reinforces a dialectic which has been facilitated thoroughly on a handful of very lengthy Charles material threads. IMO you seem to be adding to the contextual "dogma" and "rhetoric".

You say "he" is shady?, how do you know that?
Correct me if I am mistaken but isn't "some truth" the same as "disinformation" in the context you have mentioned or any for that matter. And if this "disinfo" (if that is the case) is an attempt to keep people interested then wouldn't you agree it's then working because you have taken the time to post on this very matter.

I don't "know" you and I sense you are not a shady person, I don't think/feel that way about "people".
I also suggest that deciding people (members) are "sheeple" is just another meme within this dialectic.

apollo41 I genuinely mean well.
Please read some of my posts perhaps so you can gauge where I am coming from, as I did yours before I decided to comment.
I appreciate you have been a member for quite some time and don't post much.

Your opinion like any I value, in this instance it did not resonate with me.
I don't discount anybodies opinion as I feel it is foolish to do so.

Cheers,
yak

PS, I sent you a friend request, I will not be offended if you decline.

Addendum:
I apologise if I have assumed incorrectly that you have not read any/many of my posts.

[Houman]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
Some questions to keep in mind...

- Why was Hitler into "New Age"?
...

Where did you get this idea from?

Read "Hitler and the New Age" by Bob Rosio if you can find it...

Look into the connections between Dietrich Eckart and Hilter. Those are Eckart's words: "I shall have influenced history more than any other German. Follow Hitler! I have initiated him into the secret doctrine, opened his centers to vision and given him the means to communicate with the powers"...

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...initiation.htm

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
Some questions to keep in mind...

- Why was Hitler into "New Age"?
...

Where did you get this idea from?

Read "Hitler and the New Age" by Bob Rosio if you can find it...

Look into the connections between Dietrich Eckart and Hilter. Those are Eckart's words: "I shall have influenced history more than any other German. Follow Hitler! I have initiated him into the secret doctrine, opened his centers to vision and given him the means to communicate with the powers"...

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...initiation.htm

With all due respect to you, that is the biggest load of hogwash I have seen for a while.
Yes, Hitler was in the Thule Society and yes, Eckart was a huge influence over him.
The type of beliefs that they had were not referenced in the abrahamic systems.
They had no belief in that at all.

[Houman]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
The type of beliefs that they had were not referenced in the abrahamic systems.
They had no belief in that at all.

Are you sure about that?

" I have seen the Antichrist. He is cruel and intrepid. He frightened me." Hitler (who or what was he talking about?)

look at

"The Twisted Cross: The Occultic Religion of Hitler and the New Age Nazism of the Third Reich" by
Joseph J. Carr

`The Occult and the Third Reich" by Jean-Michel Angebert