The Area 51 'Alien Interview' video

[Mike Gorman]

I recall the African school kids who witnessed a landing on their oval, or close by, one little girl (at the time, they would all be grown ups today) described a being who fits this being's visage, large black eyes and telepathic communications, perhaps these beings were visiting regularly around that time?

[Eva2]

I seem to recall there was a written transcript that of the interview with this Being that was very interesting. I think I may have seen/read it from a posting some years ago on this forum? I wouldn't mind reading it again if anyone can find it?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Eva2 (here)
I seem to recall there was a written transcript that of the interview with this Being that was very interesting. I think I may have seen/read it from a posting some years ago on this forum? I wouldn't mind reading it again if anyone can find it?

As best I know, this particular being never communicated anything that was transcribed and leaked to the public.

The video shows it experiencing some kind of medical crisis, though according to John Stewart (in his interview with Clayton Morris) there were military telepaths present in the room and the whole episode would probably have had quite a prequel before this small clip was extracted from a longer recording.

[Eva2]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Eva2 (here)
I seem to recall there was a written transcript that of the interview with this Being that was very interesting. I think I may have seen/read it from a posting some years ago on this forum? I wouldn't mind reading it again if anyone can find it?

As best I know, this particular being never communicated anything that was transcribed and leaked to the public.

The video shows it experiencing some kind of medical crisis, though according to John Stewart (in his interview with Clayton Morris) there were military telepaths present in the room and the whole episode would probably have had quite a prequel before this small clip was extracted from a longer recording.

Thanks - I know I had read some transcript from an interview with an alien at Area 51 before - seems it wasn't "this one" then. Maybe I got it mixed up with another but definitely recall a written Q&A from a Being on film.

I have only scrolled thru so far and this video shows the alien footage around the 33 min mark but there "appears" to be a vague reference to an interview. I haven't watched it yet so not sure of the full content.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=thdzV3VGzwo

[selinam]

Hmmm Why are the videos always so dark and hard to see? If that’s because it is too bright for the alien why do they shine the light directly into its eyes so much?

[Strat]

Does anyone know if Dan Burish has commented on this? Seems like it's right up his alley.

[Bill Ryan]

Yes, 100% real.

A fantastic interview of John Stewart by Clayton Morris, and an important one too. I was riveted from beginning to end.

I was well aware of 'Victor's alien interview footage from 1997, and had always known it was real. But I had no idea of the backstory and all the detail that John Stewart had recently discovered, and then methodically verified*. If anyone interested in this watches this video, I doubt they'll be disappointed

*A side note. Richard Doty was one of the many that Stewart contacted and who shared what he knew of this. I've spent personal time with Doty, and can vouch that he's an extremely pleasant man who when he was working in Air Force Intelligence was simply doing his job and nothing more. He knows a huge amount about a lot of things, and is NOT a 'disinfo agent'. Ufology trolls love to target and badmouth him, but little of any of that is deserved.

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by selinam (here)
Hmmm Why are the videos always so dark and hard to see? If that’s because it is too bright for the alien why do they shine the light directly into its eyes so much?

Thank you Selinam for this thought. When at the time I watched this video I found it almost unbearable. The poor being was under duress. Did Thee have difficulty breathing? The way the interrogators seemed to busy themselves around Thee I felt it was equivalent to torture. A torture of the soul showing as torture of the body. A vivisection-like animal experiment on a being our primitive, painful “grid” was being pressed upon. Would God forgive us our acting like that with His angels?

[panpsych]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Eva2 (here)
I seem to recall there was a written transcript that of the interview with this Being that was very interesting. I think I may have seen/read it from a posting some years ago on this forum? I wouldn't mind reading it again if anyone can find it?

As best I know, this particular being never communicated anything that was transcribed and leaked to the public.

The video shows it experiencing some kind of medical crisis, though according to John Stewart (in his interview with Clayton Morris) there were military telepaths present in the room and the whole episode would probably have had quite a prequel before this small clip was extracted from a longer recording.

Yes, indeed. In fact, if memory serves, Victor claimed both as part of his narration of the clip in the Rocket Productions picture it featured in and in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C, that this video was "late in the series", suggesting it was a trim from not only one larger piece of film, but a clip from one film in a much longer series of videos taken.

Whether the series V referred to focused on just this being or perhaps more is interesting to consider.

Victor, however, did cryptically allude (particularly in his C2C roundtable) to some of the information which allegedly was deciphered by the 'telepaths' on the program, though he was careful to hedge the claims that they'd successfully communicated with the ET(s) with the notice that he'd never encountered any evidence to suggest that they were anything more than late night psychic-hotline types, who could just as easily have been placating the program-leaders with a load of bunk to justify their continued presence.

Nevertheless, Victor never specified if it was *this* ET whom the telepaths claimed to have extracted info from, or another. (NB: though he *does* say something like "the telepath was trying to clarify some points from a previous interview but wasn't receiving coherent responses, suggesting this ET may have "spoken" before).

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by panpsych (here)
in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C

Are any of these audios archived anywhere? I would be most interested to hear them.

[panpsych]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)
in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C

Are any of these audios archived anywhere? I would be most interested to hear them.

I was quite surprised that someone still has the whole C2C show with Art Bell on a YouTube playlist

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DSbUfl3sN4o

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by panpsych (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)
in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C

Are any of these audios archived anywhere? I would be most interested to hear them.

I was quite surprised that someone still has the whole C2C show with Art Bell on a YouTube playlist

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DSbUfl3sN4o

Excellent, thanks for that. This is part 1/8.

Here are the others

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-T0byU0rwc&t=2s
Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LxMnbWl95o
Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-OxGdcU9Q4
Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jj13rwpTro
Part 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsM4U5mE2k
Part 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5luodTTOV1Q
Part 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj0O0ApyiTI

Full Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbU...2C3C5D5C5C4580

Alien Interview - Victor Returns 11 Years Later 1/2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ9eQoqsMwY
Alien Interview - Victor Returns 11 Years Later 2/2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jee-4yWzp0c

[Satori]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)
in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C

Are any of these audios archived anywhere? I would be most interested to hear them.

I was quite surprised that someone still has the whole C2C show with Art Bell on a YouTube playlist

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DSbUfl3sN4o

Excellent, thanks for that. This is part 1/8.

Here are the others

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-T0byU0rwc&t=2s
Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LxMnbWl95o
Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-OxGdcU9Q4
Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jj13rwpTro
Part 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsM4U5mE2k
Part 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5luodTTOV1Q
Part 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj0O0ApyiTI

Full Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbU...2C3C5D5C5C4580

Alien Interview - Victor Returns 11 Years Later 1/2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ9eQoqsMwY
Alien Interview - Victor Returns 11 Years Later 2/2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jee-4yWzp0c

Thank you for this.

Query: In Victor Returns 11Years Later 2/2, what is that over the shoulders of “Victor” at about 6:18 to 6:25 or so? Coming from our right to left in the screen.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

To me it looks like a bird.

[panpsych]

Posted by Satori (here)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)
in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C

Are any of these audios archived anywhere? I would be most interested to hear them.

I was quite surprised that someone still has the whole C2C show with Art Bell on a YouTube playlist

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DSbUfl3sN4o

Excellent, thanks for that. This is part 1/8.

Here are the others

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-T0byU0rwc&t=2s
Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LxMnbWl95o
Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-OxGdcU9Q4
Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jj13rwpTro
Part 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsM4U5mE2k
Part 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5luodTTOV1Q
Part 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj0O0ApyiTI

Full Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbU...2C3C5D5C5C4580

Alien Interview - Victor Returns 11 Years Later 1/2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ9eQoqsMwY
Alien Interview - Victor Returns 11 Years Later 2/2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jee-4yWzp0c

Thank you for this.

Query: In Victor Returns 11Years Later 2/2, what is that over the shoulders of “Victor” at about 6:18 to 6:25 or so? Coming from our right to left in the screen.

This "Return" interview was released as "bonus" content for a 10th anniversary pressing of the documentary made by Rocket Productions. As I recall, this edition featured all kinds of cheesy post-production "artistic" choices, such as editing in a bunch of "UFOs" zooming around in the background of shots. I believe this is one of them (if not, as Mark says, a bird).

[Satori]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
To me it looks like a bird.

That’s what I think too. But when it simply vanished I scratched my head a bit.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)
in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C

Are any of these audios archived anywhere? I would be most interested to hear them.

I was quite surprised that someone still has the whole C2C show with Art Bell on a YouTube playlist

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DSbUfl3sN4o

Excellent, thanks for that. This is part 1/8.

Here are the others

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-T0byU0rwc&t=2s
Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LxMnbWl95o
Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-OxGdcU9Q4
Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jj13rwpTro
Part 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsM4U5mE2k
Part 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5luodTTOV1Q
Part 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj0O0ApyiTI

Not an easy listen. The narrative is disjointed, and the topics jump all over the place. Almost every question put to Victor is met with a hesitant pause, and he stammers frequently. The host's predilection to fill a pregnant silence often results in Victor being cut off just as he's about to articulate something -- and who knows something interesting. As much as I like and admire Art Bell this was infuriating.

I did my best to summarize the interview with the following bullet-points.

• The footage was digitized from old analogue tape
• The ET in the footage came from a craft shot down in '89
• We have the technology to shoot down alien craft
• Victor believes they can only be shot down when aliens choose to be shot down
• Four persons were present in the interview
• Telepaths present in the interview are not very skilled
• Any perceived maltreatment of the aliens stems from our helplessness/lack of knowledge (dealing with them)
• These black programs are full of "well-educated charlatanism". Need for security trumps scientific expertise
• The ETs have a level of advancement beyond our ability to understand
• ETs are biologically inert in relation to our ecosystem

• The ETs in custody routinely contract debilitating illnesses
• All ETs in government possession are likely dead (by now)
• He thinks the ETs are presenting themselves (to be captured) as a "test" (of humanity)
• Aliens understand us better than we understand them
• The ET's answers (in interview) calibrated to some purpose of their own not clearly understood by us
• Believes the ETs' programs on the human race are as old as the human race
• Victor himself personally encountered ETs at S-4. Doesn't make clear he was present at the same session shown in footage
• His encounter elicited strong emotional reaction: sorrow, and anger. Felt intense presence within him that was "foreign". Experience changed him.

• Area 51 is now defunct, many of the alien facilities abandoned (at time of interview, late 90s)
• S-4 has four underground levels. First two levels for back-engineering program (of alien craft)
• Goes on to back up Bob Lazar's account
• Level three and four contain living quarters for the EBEs. The EBE's breathe normal oxygen.
• When autopsied, ETs have the organs of a biological entity. They function as a biological entity, but lack certain (regular) chemical and physical functions
• Does not believe that ETs die (in captivity) because they cannot live in our environment. Implies they "allow" humans to exercise their free will (in mistreating them) as a test
• Victor has never witnessed other ET species. Not a believer in Pleiadians or other humanoid alien types
• Doesn't believe the ETs (Greys) are from Zeta Reticuli, or deep space. If he were to speculate, they come from other dimension or a contiguous place not available to us to visit

• Area 51/S-4 operation moved to Utah (my comment – probably Dugway Proving Grounds)
• He (Victor) will not (which is different to does not) confirm Bob Lazar worked on craft at S-4, but his information is essentially correct
• On this he can make no further pronouncement – this to protect his anonymity
• ET craft were absolutely at S-4. He can confirm that
• The saucers may at this time still be at S-4, but believes they will be moved, cannot say how
• John Lear's claim that many bases are connected by huge underground tunnels – he cannot confirm this. He hasn't seen evidence of these tunnels, but can't rule it out – he's seen what the beings have allowed humans to do with their technology. If it was part of their plan he supposes it might be possible
• Confirms Area 51 at Groom Lake is a testing ground for super-secret aircraft. S-4 at Papoose Lake (on the other hand) is separate, and is the site of the truly black programs
• Test flights (of exotic craft) ceased around Area51/S-4 in late 1991, or early 1992
• Government congratulates itself for having ET prisoners, but Victor believes ETs are allowing themselves to be captured for a reason

• Doubles down on keeping his profile at Groom Lake/S-4 secret, will not confirm his role there or if he's still employed (on the base)
• Opportunity to smuggle out more video/other evidence has passed. Obtaining initial 3min video clip was result of an opportunity presenting itself at a particular moment when the facility was in turmoil. A moment of confusion made it possible
• His striking a deal with Rocket Pictures was financially motivated
• The riches (of evidence) available (at the facility) is truly mind-boggling
• Believes the alien autopsy film (Santilli) to be a hoax. Footage of being doesn't resemble ones he's seen or is in documentation he's aware of – but he hasn't himself seen the autopsy film from Roswell, so it "could" be true (real).
• Uncertain what would happen to him if he's identified. At worst, he would be dead.
• Being in the footage was not in any way restrained, but it was weak/sick
• It has four fingers (on in each hand) one of which resembles a thumb
• The ETs' contact with government resembles a test, and it's a test he thinks we are failing

[panpsych]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Not an easy listen. The narrative is disjointed, and the topics jump all over the place. Almost every question put to Victor is met with a hesitant pause, and he stammers frequently. The host's predilection to fill a pregnant silence often results in Victor being cut off just as he's about to articulate something -- and who knows something interesting. As much as I like and admire Art Bell this was infuriating.

Whilst I completely agree that all of these issues are present in the interview, I'd strongly caution against discouraging people to listen to it if they can stomach it, if only because these imperfections and unrehearsed, awkward inflections add some credence to the possibility that they aren't being read off the back of a napkin.

There are also inferences within those awkwardly pregnant pauses that I'd speculate would probably go unnoticed in a transcript.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by panpsych (here)
in his subsequent media commitment with Art Bell and SDM on C2C

Are any of these audios archived anywhere? I would be most interested to hear them.

I was quite surprised that someone still has the whole C2C show with Art Bell on a YouTube playlist

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DSbUfl3sN4o

Excellent, thanks for that. This is part 1/8.

Here are the others

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-T0byU0rwc&t=2s
Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LxMnbWl95o
Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-OxGdcU9Q4
Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jj13rwpTro
Part 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsM4U5mE2k
Part 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5luodTTOV1Q
Part 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj0O0ApyiTI

Not an easy listen. The narrative is disjointed, and the topics jump all over the place. Almost every question put to Victor is met with a hesitant pause, and he stammers frequently. The host's predilection to fill a pregnant silence often results in Victor being cut off just as he's about to articulate something -- and who knows something interesting. As much as I like and admire Art Bell this was infuriating.

I did my best to summarize the interview with the following bullet-points.

• The footage was digitized from old analogue tape
• The ET in the footage came from a craft shot down in '89
• We have the technology to shoot down alien craft
• Victor believes they can only be shot down when aliens choose to be shot down
• Four persons were present in the interview
• Telepaths present in the interview are not very skilled
• Any perceived maltreatment of the aliens stems from our helplessness/lack of knowledge (dealing with them)
• These black programs are full of "well-educated charlatanism". Need for security trumps scientific expertise
• The ETs have a level of advancement beyond our ability to understand
• ETs are biologically inert in relation to our ecosystem
• The ETs in custody routinely contract debilitating illnesses
• All ETs in government possession are likely dead (by now)
• He thinks the ETs are presenting themselves (to be captured) as a "test" (of humanity)
• Aliens understand us better than we understand them
• The ET's answers (in interview) calibrated to some purpose of their own not clearly understood by us
• Believes the ETs' programs on the human race are as old as the human race
• Victor himself personally encountered ETs at S-4. Doesn't make clear he was present at the same session shown in footage
• His encounter elicited strong emotional reaction: sorrow, and anger. Felt intense presence within him that was "foreign". Experience changed him.
• Area 51 is now defunct, many of the alien facilities abandoned (at time of interview, late 90s)
• S-4 has four underground levels. First two levels for back-engineering program (of alien craft)
• Goes on to back up Bob Lazar's account
• Level three and four contain living quarters for the EBEs. The EBE's breathe normal oxygen.
• When autopsied, ETs have the organs of a biological entity. They function as a biological entity, but lack certain (regular) chemical and physical functions
• Does not believe that ETs die (in captivity) because they cannot live in our environment. Implies they "allow" humans to exercise their free will (in mistreating them) as a test
• Victor has never witnessed other ET species. Not a believer in Pleiadians or other humanoid alien types
• Doesn't believe the ETs (Greys) are from Zeta Reticuli, or deep space. If he were to speculate, they come from other dimension or a contiguous place not available to us to visit.
• Area 51/S-4 operation moved to Utah (my comment – probably Dugway Proving Grounds)
• He (Victor) will not (which is different to does not) confirm Bob Lazar worked on craft at S-4, but his information is essentially correct
• On this he can make no further pronouncement – this to protect his anonymity
• ET craft were absolutely at S-4. He can confirm that
• The saucers may at this time still be at S-4, but believes they will be moved, cannot say how
• John Lear's claim that many bases are connected by huge underground tunnels – he cannot confirm this. He hasn't seen evidence of these tunnels, but can't rule it out – he's seen what the beings have allowed humans to do with their technology. If it was part of their plan he supposes it might be possible
• Confirms Area 51 at Groom Lake is a testing ground for super-secret aircraft. S-4 at Papoose Lake (on the other hand) is separate, and is the site of the truly black programs
• Test flights (of exotic craft) ceased around Area51/S-4 in late 1991, or early 1992
• Government congratulates itself for having ET prisoners, but Victor believes ETs are allowing themselves to be captured for a reason
• Doubles down on keeping his profile at Groom Lake/S-4 secret, will not confirm his role there or if he's still employed (on the base)
• Opportunity to smuggle out more video/other evidence has passed. Obtaining initial 3min video clip was result of an opportunity presenting itself at a particular moment when the facility was in turmoil. A moment of confusion made it possible
• His striking a deal with Rocket Pictures was financially motivated
• The riches (of evidence) available (at the facility) is truly mind-boggling
• Believes the alien autopsy film (Santilli) to be a hoax. Footage of being doesn't resemble ones he's seen or is in documentation he's aware of – but he hasn't himself seen the autopsy film from Roswell, so it "could" be true (real).
• Uncertain what would happen to him if he's identified. At worst, he would be dead.
• Being in the footage was not in any way restrained, but it was weak/sick
• It has four fingers (on in each hand) one of which resembles a thumb
• The ETs' contact with government resembles a test, and it's a test he thinks we are failing

Many thanks, and very very useful.

All those responses sound authentic to me, especially his saying that doesn't believe the Greys are from Zeta Reticuli. I've never bought that either, though it's so widely posted and re-posted now it's almost something that "everyone knows".

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

If I remember rightly the Zeta Reticuli connection first came up in the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case in the early 60's. A star map that Betty drew (from memory) was later matched to the Zeta Reticuli star system. As far as I know, that seems to be the only connection this system has with the ETs.

Besides, the ETs in this case were not in my opinion Greys. For a start their eyes were quite different. Though enlarged they had human characteristics, including an iris and pupil.

The ETs Betty and Barney Encountered


Another difference (to Greys) is these beings were heard to mumble to one another in an unknown language. Greys have no capacity for speech. The mouth is merely a simulacrum of one; they have no tongue per se or a voice box. Communication is by thought transfer only.