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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    The 1977 one smells like a prank to me too.
    I hear you for sure. But many things can smell like a prank that aren't.

    Besides -- and not meaning for this to sound facetious -- getting at the truth, the real truth, requires far more than our sense of smell.

    Maybe with this one we'll never know. It sure is interesting, and most of all that message. If the speaker was indeed human, he spoke with a degree of wisdom and awareness I don't think any of us can deny.
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    is time loop are real? heard about multiverse and paralell universe before aswell timelines...alot of shows/tv theme on time loop where one day or periods keep repeating.

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    I just had a thought. I'm not thinking this explains it, but more like I found another possibility in amongst the thousand of other explanations none of which I can see or comprehend.

    It doesn't explain the other passenger freak-outs though.

    We do have a sophisticated level of AI at the moment, the timing is about right for androids to be let loose and mill about. What a fascinating experiment?

    I'm not ruling out she twigged on spotting a life-like human android, in the same way that chimpanzees don't like humans in wigs, and dogs don't like humans in full face-masks. Perhaps the crazy lady had a similar reaction. Not saying I think I am explaining or understanding it, this idea just came to mind.

    But still, my gut wants me to write these things off as mundane occurrences. But I am more open to a gear shift towards crazy. But even with bizarre things actually happening, humans' capacity to acquire false-memory is so illusive I think we sometimes perceive this effect as supernatural. That said, I also believe that there are also supernatural/spooky things that happen. I'll add in that I don't trust the guy with the old phone showing the Mandala effect.
    I saw a video from a person who said that he was on the same flight He claims that he observed the women having a conversation with the guy in the seat beside her, but apparently she was the only one speaking - he did not hear the other person respond and that is what triggered the women to freak out.

    I will try to find that.video.

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Still an unsolved mystery...

    On November 26th 1977, British television was interrupted with a phantom signal, and a mysterious voice came on the air with a spiritual message for all humanity.

    This was the famous live broadcast interruption that occurred across southern England, which to this day has no explanation. With a crackle and some static the picture broke up. A strange rhythmic hum came over the airwaves, followed by a deep voice calling itself "Vrillon", of the Ashtar Galactic Command. It spoke for almost four minutes...

    I still don't quite know what to make of it. A part of me believes it was a stunt, a hoax, by (human) perpetrators unknown. The ability to hijack a broadcast in this manner was technically possible at the time, but as the police said (during their fruitless investigation) "it would take quite a bit of know-how". So without detection, or even being identified (all these years) that makes this an impressive feat.

    Yet you have to wonder...what if? What if it wasn't a hoax?

    Unbelievable, right? Maybe.

    Decide for yourself. But first read the transcript of this mystery communication. Read it closely. So much of it aligns with what we ourselves are championing here on Avalon. If it was a hoax, whoever did this was ahead of their time. Even the words "great awakening" are used in the broadcast.

    Watch the video, read the transcript as you do so.

    The live recording of the actual incident, 26/11/77


    The Transcript
    "This is the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth."

    "We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world, so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disasters which threaten your world, and the beings on other worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments."

    "Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again. All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past, and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill."

    "Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution."

    "Hear now the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. Be aware also that there are many false prophets and guides operating in your world. They will suck your energy from you - the energy you call money - and will put it to evil ends giving you worthless dross in return."

    "Your inner divine self will protect you from this. You must learn to be sensitive to the voice within that can tell you what is truth and what is confusion, chaos and untruth. Learn to listen to the voice of truth which is within you and you will lead yourselves on to the path of evolution. This is our message to our dear friends. We have watched you growing for many years, as you too have watched our lights in your skies. You know now that we are here, and that there are more beings on and around your Earth than your scientists admit."

    "We are deeply concerned about you and your path towards the light and will do all we can to help you. Have no fears, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of your planet Earth. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you for your attention. We are now leaving the planes of your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love and truth of the cosmos."
    To pull this one off you will need at least 1000 watts on the VHF/UHF frequency bands. In addition a VHF/UHF antenna system, and commercial grade radio transmitter, and a power source probably three phase or generator.

    I personally do not think this one was a hoax.

    Then you have this message in a form of a crop circle.





    "Beware the bearers of FALSE GIFTS & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there. We oppose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING."

    We are sure living in interesting times guys.

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    The Mississippi Skunk-Ape footage

    For Bigfoot sightings this one is up there. It's impressive footage and pretty famous now. If you've not seen it check it out.
    Date: October 24 - 2013
    Where: about 9 miles west of Tunica, Mississippi on my hunting property
    Time: about 6pm

    I was out hunting hogs, just sitting in a part of the swamp i have heard em before...it is not too far from a road. I was wearing hunting camo and just sitting dead still waiting for it to get dark, cause thats when the hogs come out. I hear a noise behind the tree i was sitting on, i thought it was the hogs, when i got around i could not believe my own two eyes.

    There was this huge black thing crouched by a dead cypress about 50 yards away, i thought it was a hog but saw these big shoulders and a head upright with hands. It looked like it was digging out the stump. My first instinct was to run, i did not even think of shooting...then i know no one will believe me...it was like everything slowed down...i was scared! I took out my iphone and started videotaping it..i guess i pushed the record button twice cause it stopped blinking red.. but i pushed it again. I hear a truck driving down the road and the thing stood up!! I was trying to be dead quiet...when it stood up i could not control myself and ran. That stump was huge and i'd guess the sucker was 7feet tall, i am a hunter and am pretty darn good at guessing size.

    that's no bear!

    I don't know what to think.. if someone can tell me what it is or if somone was trying to prank me i, I don't want to go back on my land. this is the first movie i have ever put on youtube..the video looks better on my phone and computer

    I always heard stories of skunk ape and honey island swamp monster from these parts but never thought about it being real ever.
    *****

    If it is a guy in a suit he's a giant -- and immensely strong. Listen to the crack of wood as it tears that tree apart.

    The Mississippi Skunk-Ape footage
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    I have just done a video for the forum last Saturday and mentioned the Voice from Space!

    SYNCHRONICITY

    The universe is on the phone to me yet again!

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    It’s a bit of a double-edged sword. In the majority of cases, we can probably put the weird videos down to the ease with which virtually anyone can create special effects with apps today. So, Occam’s Razor applies.

    But, then there is the flip side—those creative videos and spottings set us up to immediately dismiss ones that might have more substance. Then, we tend to think all unexplainable events must be hoaxes.

    The woman on the airline who was upset about the passenger not being real—if someone was going to start introducing androids into real life but wanted to keep them low-key, why not set up some initial freak outs? No one wants to be the woman who looks crazy. So, rather than pointing out the odd guy, we just keep quiet and tell ourselves we must be wrong.

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    UFO Footage - Excellent Evidence

    Special effects and CGI definitely muddy the waters these days as we sift and search for the truth. It wasn't quite the case years ago before easy access to CGI. Here's the first of a couple of examples of UFO footage that has stood the test of time.

    August 6th, 1997 -- Mexico City
    This famous footage was taken from an apartment building looking across downtown Mexico City. This was shot on analogue VHS, and was picked up by TV stations the very next day. It's widely regarded as some of the best footage ever taken. It's not as hi-definition as we might expect today, but it's clear enough see details on this incredible object. Analysis verified this was no digital insert. What is in the video was in the air at the time -- and it's a sizeable thing in the air, measuring at least 50 feet in diameter.

    The only remaining explanation,other that "an craft not of this earth" was an a model suspended on a wire -- and a 50ft model. This was ruled out. The revolving motion would have made it a complex and dangerous endeavour, and the wobbling motion of the craft is too inconsistent with a harness and wire. Also, at the 10second mark in the video you can observe it take off to the right from a stationary position. If it was dangling from a helicopter this sudden movement, from stand-still, would cause the object to start swinging (like a pendulum). It doesn't do that. This object is under its own propulsion.

    Besides, none of the witnesses saw or heard a helicopter or any other craft in the sky.

    The footage as presented in a short documentary from 1997


    Here's a blow up of the object I made into a gif. From this you can study the revolving, bobbing motion. It's interesting to note that many historic UFO sightings reported similar behaviour, notably with Billy Meier during his early encounters, to Kenneth Arnold way back in 1947.

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    Another remarkable clip that's a close match to the Mexico footage. The object revolves and bobs in a similar manner, and has same or similar shape, although it was thought by the witness to be only the size of a tractor wheel. So perhaps a drone or probe of some kind.

    It was filmed in Costa Rica in 2007 by carpenter Marvin Badilla who was working on a building site. It was captured raw and in real time on a now primitive camera phone. It's also possible with this one to rule out wires and strings. At the end of the sequence the craft flips over on its axis and shoots into the air at terrific speed.

    It's an impressive piece of footage, especially when you compare it side-by-side with the one shot in Mexico City a decade earlier.

    UFO filmed with a Motorola RAZR V3 by Marvin Badilla, Tarbaca, Costa Rica, 2007


    A blow up of the object in gif format.
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    Crabwood 2002, so I just learned. The image rung a bell but I had not looked into it. Found a page that explains the ASCII coding, and suggests a further possible embedded message. Interesting.

    http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/a...time2007n.html

    Quote The binary-ASCII code from Crabwood 2002: a second message embedded somewhere?

    On August 15, 2002, a now-famous crop picture appeared at Crabwood in England. It showed the schematic image of a "military grey alien" using an old-fashioned 60-line TV signal from the 1950's, and also the image of a "spiral compact disc".

    Lucy Pringle (www.lucypringle.co.uk/articles/crabwood),
    Martin Keitel (http://www.martinkeitel.net/cropcirc...les/alien.html)
    and Paul Vigay (http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/ar...alienface.html) have already given excellent analyses of that particular crop picture, which was perhaps the most significant to date.

    Yet its "compact disc" provided only a fairly obscure message for the inhabitants of Earth, when translated from 8-bit binary ASCII code into English. Thus, its 1368-digit string of zeros and ones read as follows:
    "Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES.Much PAIN but still time.BELIEVE.There is GOOD out there.We oPpose DECEPTION.COnduit CLOSING\"

    Taken on face value, that ASCII message would seem to: (i) warn us against any possible alliance with the military grey aliens, who may have promised (some governments in secrecy) advanced weaponry systems for nation-state warfare, that turned out later not to work; (ii) warn us that there will be much trouble on Earth in our short-term future; (iii) inform us that there are also good, spiritual extra-terrestrials hanging around Earth today, in addition to the nasty ones; (iv) inform us that they know about media lies and deception concerning the reality of modern crop circles; and (v) inform us that such messages are being sent to Earth by means of "space time conduit" technology, that we later saw depicted in the "wormhole" crop pictures from 2006 (see http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/a...echnology.html).

    So far, so good! But could there be another level of information encoded within that long binary string of numbers, on some deeper level that they did not expect us to immediately understand? Indeed, could a second message be found now in 2008 upon closer scrutiny? Two anomalous features of their original binary code (see below) do seem to suggest a second level of information, not yet decoded.
    Quote Posted by Szymon (here)

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    Then you have this message in a form of a crop circle.





    "Beware the bearers of FALSE GIFTS & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there. We oppose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING."

    We are sure living in interesting times guys.

    Cheers,
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    The " Not Real" clip

    This lady was clearly disturbed. Something or someone creeped her the heck out. A passenger that she was so disturbed by, it looks like she didn't even want to sit near this person.
    We don't have enough information of course. Her choice of words used could have been better or maybe it wouldn't have mattered what choice of words she used. Regardless she was sounding an alarm. Things aren't right with that passenger. What in God's green earth could give her such panic and fear- of what exactly she didn't know. Just something about that passenger disturbed her so much she had to tell her fellow passengers. Everyone's complacency kept things under wraps, dismissing her as a possible Karen acting out. Others picked up on her intuitive sensing and sensed something real may be triggering her. Maybe this "not real" passenger looked through her in a robotic artificial way.

    It begs further investigation.
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    One might benefit by looking for patterns and extrapolating on them, but it can be a nearly full-time job for this level of research. Some context might be helpful:

    If you were to accept the idea of the simulation theory, and from there determine that the only reason to run a universe as a simulation would be to generate needed information that could not be obtained any other way, then you might also consider that something might develop within the simulation itself that attempts to go against that very effort.

    This was the same concept posited nearly 2000 years ago by the Gnostics, but lost by 4th century A.D. once this central concept was excised and declared heretical, for the purpose of hijacking the religion and using it for other purposes.

    Hacking the simulation engine from the inside to go against the purpose of the simulation (as opposed to "solving" the simulation in order to conclude it) can have side-effects in terms of glitches, and some of the above can be explained by this.

    In other cases, the effort to solve the simulation is slowed down by false-flag artificial cultural implants like the New Age movement which bait-and-switch would-be followers of the simulation-solving movement with another movement destined to simply stall out - New Age music for example representing the vapid water-treading of the higher density tetrachord (5D-8D).

    The real target should instead be at the interface point between 4D and 5D (approximations include the square root of 2, 45/32, the tritone, etc.), but this is heavily obstructed.

    So altogether you have a field of play where our "3D" interest may begin rapidly shifting to higher densities, as some are not only able to understand what's going on, but become much more interested in this than their current/previous 3D experience.

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    The " Not Real" clip

    This lady was clearly disturbed. Something or someone creeped her the heck out. A passenger that she was so disturbed by, it looks like she didn't even want to sit near this person.
    An update on this story. TMFINR (That Mother-F***** Is Not Real) is going viral, as is the name Tiffany Gomas, alleged to be the TMFINR woman, aged 38 of Azle, Texas.

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    1. She caused the flight to be deplaned. Post 9/11 that's a serious offence. Yet police allowed her to walk away.
    2. Report mentions her ear-pods were stolen. In video she states her stuff did not matter. She was happy to leave it all behind.
    3. Why was she never questioned re the claim that the flight was doomed and everyone would die, and "TMFINR"?

    A reminder of the original clip:


    Since the incident at the beginning of July, and since this story went viral, her presence online has been almost completely scrubbed. A number of internet sleuths have worked out this much, and repeated attempts to contact the woman for her side of the story have failed. She's seemingly gone off-grid since then, not answering calls or emails.

    If this was a matter of just ear pods, or a falling out with a fellow passenger, why would she was dash from the plane in a panic, shouting about a passenger "not being real" and that "you can all sit on this plane and die with him"? Why the cloak and dagger? Why so many unanswered questions?

    It should be noted that Tiffany Gomas is a business executive with apparently an extensive portfolio. She's considered an up and coming star of the business world, and owns/owned her own business. Not an obvious candidate for a drunk, or drug-addict, or someone down on their luck and suffering from mental instability.

    More on this dig: https://breeadail.substack.com/p/tmfinr-she-is-real
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    These stories are really bizarre.
    This video shows a similar incident that happened in China:



    Another video takes a closer look at what happened in the British boxer incident and one thing is clear after watching the video taken n the plane: The reporting was grossly misleading.


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    And again, another bizarre plane incident...

    Reported in the New York Post
    Russian flight delayed when passenger freaks out after ‘seeing’ ghosts of Wagner Group mercenaries on plane
    Stop the plane, there’s ghosts aboard!

    A man aboard a Russian S7 Airlines flight was escorted off the plane after allegedly freaking out when he spotted ghosts of Wagner Group mercenaries aboard, according to local reports.

    The man, identified only as Vitaly, 39, by Russian outlet’s Baza and Mash, was seen in a viral video Thursday screaming on a plane set to depart the St. Petersburg-bound flight from Novosibirsk.

    “Stop. Stop the takeoff. I’m not kidding,” the outlets translated the man saying. “Stop the takeoff. Do it fast. Stop the take off quickly. Do it fast. I can see. Stop. Stop the takeoff. Make a stop.”

    Anton Gerashchenko, adviser to the minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, shared the video on X, formerly known as Twitter, noting that the passenger begged the flight crew to not take off because he saw “three ghosts of Wagner mercenaries who were watching him.”

    The video has been seen more than 300,000 times.
    Link: full article

    Russian flight delayed when passenger freaks out after ‘seeing’ ghosts of Wagner Group mercenaries
    50 secs


    I've no idea what the heck is going with these plane incidents. The video below puts forward a number of theories, some whackier than others but...personally I'm at a loss. Weird times!

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    What's very strange is that there's been no follow-up with any of these people which was mentioned in the last video, when you'd think journalists would be all over it. I'm also wondering whether there's a link with the recent alien sightings.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I don't have a video or even a reference for this story, which I heard quite some time ago. Does anyone else recall it??

    A guy arrived in Toyko on a flight, with a passport from a European country that didn't exist. Of course, he was detained by the Japanese immigration officials, who treated him well and respectfully but escorted him to a paid-for airport hotel room where he was asked to remain until the morning. There was a police guard at the door, just as routine, and the windows were the kind that could not be opened. All this time, the traveler, who was a well-dressed businessman, seemed extremely distressed and bewildered by what was happening.

    In the morning the airport authorities knocked on the door to ask the man to accompany them to continue the investigation. There was no response, so they obtained the key and entered the room themselves.

    But the hotel room was empty. The man had completely disappeared.
    Yeah, I have heard that one. I think the name of his country was something like Taurin. It definitely began with a "T", well I'm 95 percent sure it did anyway. In the story I heard, he was even able to point to it on a map they presented him with but I forget what other countries it was near although the man recognized all of the other countries on the map and wasn't like, "what are all of these other strange places? ('our' countries)". Also, besides the guard that never left the door to the hotel room they had him in I believe it was quite a few stories up so even if could have gotten his window open, it was a long way down.
    That's a wild tale for sure. Maybe when the clock struck midnight his dimensional vortex turned into a pumpkin and he was sucked back in.

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    And again, another bizarre plane incident...

    Reported in the New York Post
    Russian flight delayed when passenger freaks out after ‘seeing’ ghosts of Wagner Group mercenaries on plane
    Stop the plane, there’s ghosts aboard!

    A man aboard a Russian S7 Airlines flight was escorted off the plane after allegedly freaking out when he spotted ghosts of Wagner Group mercenaries aboard, according to local reports.

    The man, identified only as Vitaly, 39, by Russian outlet’s Baza and Mash, was seen in a viral video Thursday screaming on a plane set to depart the St. Petersburg-bound flight from Novosibirsk.

    “Stop. Stop the takeoff. I’m not kidding,” the outlets translated the man saying. “Stop the takeoff. Do it fast. Stop the take off quickly. Do it fast. I can see. Stop. Stop the takeoff. Make a stop.”

    Anton Gerashchenko, adviser to the minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, shared the video on X, formerly known as Twitter, noting that the passenger begged the flight crew to not take off because he saw “three ghosts of Wagner mercenaries who were watching him.”

    The video has been seen more than 300,000 times.
    Link: full article

    Russian flight delayed when passenger freaks out after ‘seeing’ ghosts of Wagner Group mercenaries
    50 secs


    I've no idea what the heck is going with these plane incidents. The video below puts forward a number of theories, some whackier than others but...personally I'm at a loss. Weird times!

    You know, Bill had a thread called Chemillio
    It was about a military invented, utilized invisibility suit.
    I wonder if this isn't what is being reported in so far as Russian soldier ghosts are concerned

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A guy arrived in Toyko on a flight, with a passport from a European country that didn't exist.
    Yes the man from Taured, as mentioned back in this thread, and as cited in the video above, which I could only bear for a few minutes (that stupid talking fish!).

    I believe the "Mystery Man from Taured" is a bit of an urban legend. It does seem to have a basis in a real event and a real person but, like with chinese whispers, the truth went a little off track.

    The real individual was thought to be a US spy by the name of John Zergus, who in 1959 really did try to enter Japan with false papers, and was eventually detained for identity fraud.

    Apparently the story of Zegrus grew a few branches when it was published in The Province magazine a few years later. He became an Ethiopian intelligence officer originally from "Tuareg", a region in Algeria. Tuareg = Taured.

    This then spiralled to a man coming from a parallel universe and a country that didn't exist.

    It's unknown exactly what went on here, but I find it reasonably compelling that the myth, though having a true source, bears little resemblance to that source. It should be also mentioned here that Snopes played a part in clearing up the "facts" to "explain" this case. So make of that what you will!
    Ah..you beat me to it and with the proper country name, Taured. I was close though 🙃

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    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    What's very strange is that there's been no follow-up with any of these people which was mentioned in the last video, when you'd think journalists would be all over it. I'm also wondering whether there's a link with the recent alien sightings.
    It's easy enough to influence lines of investigation to "fizzle out" since the one thing we all need to do is sleep, and without safeguards in place we may always wake up unable to pick up quite the same amount of momentum we had the day before pursuing the line. This happens routinely and will continue to occur until people have a protection mechanism they can use while sleeping. The good news is that this type of protection is very much possible.

    Another thing to consider is the difference in "realm-border crossing" potential at high elevation. For flights that will have had taken off and reached elevation, this can bleed as far back as pre take-off, and bleed forward to landing/taxiing. This is the same temporal "eyelet" as witnessed with Mandela effect phenomena distribution, just at a much shorter time scale and much more localized. The same is true for the altered state of being at elevation - many people feel it already before takeoff. An individual preventing takeoff can still feel the effects of having taken off and reached elevation in a different branch of the probable future (as unlikely as that may seem).

    For anyone wondering if being at even higher elevation, like all the way out in space, would result being even deeper into the "realm-border crossing", the answer is probably no, at least for this category of phenomena. This category seems to be unique to lower levels of atmosphere around the planet specifically, and has to do with (only) partial ejection of the soul upon death, among other things. It would be hard to know one way or another what types of unexplained phenomena might be experienced at upper levels of atmosphere and in space anyway, since we have so far fewer people getting up there compared to how many are on regular flights. Still, there are a few accounts of other types of phenomena.

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