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    https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/st...905865216?s=20



    text from Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz

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    Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz on Trump’s Georgia indictments:

    “First of all, nobody should take seriously that there was grand jury indictment. The fact that it was a grand jury indictment, it means nothing. It's the prosecutor who indicted. The best evidence of that is that it was on his website before the grand jury even voted. Now, the whole strategy of all these four cases is to get a conviction before the election, even if they're going to lose on appeal.

    I used to teach my students, many of them future prosecutors, if you bring a Rico case, that increases your chances of winning a trial and losing on appeal. The same thing is true with conspiracy and other cases involving mental states. And so all four of these cases are designed to get quick convictions in jurisdictions that are heavily loaded against Donald Trump.

    And these prosecutors don't care as much as prosecutors generally do about having the convictions reversed on appeal, because that will happen after the election
    , which only goes to prove what I've been arguing now for months. If you're going after the man who's running against your incumbent president, you had darn well better have the strongest case possible. And these are among the four, at least three of them, three weakest cases I’ve ever seen against any candidate. We don't know about the fourth, but it seems like it's very much like the DC case.

    And if you're going after the man running for president against your person, you have to have the strongest case. Otherwise, it becomes a banana republic. Anybody can prosecute anybody. And we're opening the door to prosecution of Democrats by Republicans, Republicans by Democrats. It's what Alexander Hamilton wrote in The Federalist is the most dangerous threat to democracy, and we're seeing it unfold in front of our eyes. Very, very tragically.

    I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Trump supporter, but I care deeply about the Constitution. I care deeply about preserving the rule of law. And we're seeing it being fritter away for partisan political purposes.”$
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    Interesting statement today from Trump


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    There's not much I feel well-qualified to say, but I might share the opinion that if something fairly spectacular and unusual doesn't happen within the next 12 months, the USA will effectively be sunk beyond all trace never to be revived in the form that the world once knew it. All this is extremely serious.
    My opinion? No worries. WAIT FOR IT.


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    Even The Moon of Alabama, which for the last 18 months has almost exclusively been posting about Ukraine, Russia and geopolitics, has a major piece on this today.
    How Will Trump's Fourth Indictment - And RFK Jr. - Influence The Election Season?

    Another month brings another indictment of Donald Trump:
    ATLANTA — Former president Donald Trump and 18 others were criminally charged in Georgia in connection with efforts to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 victory in the state, according to an indictment made public late Monday night. Trump was charged with 13 counts, including violating the state’s racketeering act, soliciting a public officer to violate their oath, conspiring to impersonate a public officer, conspiring to commit forgery in the first degree and conspiring to file false documents.
    With so much alleged conspiring should we call all these indictments a conspiracy theory?

    This indictment is again too wide and borders on, like the others against Trump, criminalizing the retelling of rumors and free speech.

    Just consider this part:
    COUNT 29 of 41 And the Grand Jurors aforesaid, in the name and behalf of the citizens of Georgia, do charge and accuse DONALD JOHN TRUMP with the offense of FALSE STATEMENTS AND WRITINGS, O.C.G.A. § 16-10-20, for the said accused, in the County of Fulton and State of Georgia, on or about the 2nd day of January 2021, knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully made at least one of the following false statements and representations to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs, and Georgia Secretary of State General Counsel Ryan Germany:
    1. That anywhere from 250,000 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia;
    2. That thousands of people attempted to vote in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia and were told they could not because a ballot had already been cast in their name;
    3. That 4,502 people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia who were not on the voter registration list;
    4. That 904 people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia who were registered at an address that was a post ofiice box;
    5. That Ruby Freeman was a professional vote scammer and a known political operative;
    6. That Ruby Freeman, her daughter, and others were responsible for fraudulently awarding at least 18,000 ballots to Joseph R. Biden at State Farm Arena in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia;
    7. That close to 5,000 dead people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia;
    8. That 139% of people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Detroit;
    9. That 200,000 more votes were recorded than the number of people who voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Pennsylvania;
    10. That thousands of dead people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Michigan;
    11. That Ruby Freeman stuffed the ballot boxes;
    12. That hundreds of thousands of ballots had been "dumped" into Fulton County and another county adjacent to Fulton County in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia;
    13. That he won the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia by 400,000 votes;
    ...said statements being within the jurisdiction of the Office of the Georgia Secretary of State and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, departments and agencies of state government, contrary to the laws of said State, the good order, peace and dignity thereof;
    Even the Washington Post write-up finds that a bit too excessive:
    The indictment takes an expansive view of the behaviors it alleges were acts “in furtherance of the conspiracy” -- including, as an example, at least a dozen instances of Trump’s tweets alleging fraud and other claims. Such details from the indictment quickly drew criticism as potential violations of the defendants’ free speech protections.
    Trials over these indictments, if any, will likely start only next year and will take quite a long time. Any judgment in them will be appealed.

    All this will mean little for voters who mostly have made up their minds:
    Yet most Americans made up their minds about Mr. Trump long before prosecutors like Fani T. Willis or Jack Smith weighed in, polls have shown. He is, depending on the perspective, a serial lawbreaker finally being brought to justice or a victim of persecution by partisans intent on keeping him out of office. The Georgia indictment, powerful as it is in its language, has been priced into the market, as the Wall Street types would put it. “The accumulated indictments are kind of a white noise for voters,” said Sarah Longwell, a Republican political consultant who has organized opposition to Mr. Trump and conducts weekly focus groups with voters. “They can’t tell the difference between Georgia and Jack Smith because it all blurs together in one long news cycle of Trump’s-in-trouble.”
    I believe, like Trump, that the indictment will help him. First in the primary and then in the general election:
    Speaking to supporters in Alabama a couple of days after his last arraignment, [Trump] claimed he was looking forward to the next one. “We need one more indictment to close out this election,” he boasted. That is bravado — the sort of bring-it-on bluster that electrifies a Trump rally.
    Contrast that with the case and against the Bidens which will be laid out by a special prosecutor to the same public. As I wrote when the last bits about the Bidens-Burisma saga came to light:
    On the one side we have a case which shows the deep corruption of 'the big guy' and his family who are supported by the deep state they control. On the other side we have the underdog who thought he was doing the right thing but is now indicted by the deep state for, at that time, saying so.
    The media will shine the light on both cases. Each time they will mention Trump it will, independent of what they write about him, be positive for him by making the case of the lone guy who gets unfairly prosecuted by the deep state.
    Each time the Biden case will be mentioned it will remind the public of Biden's corrupt dealings.
    Proceed through that for sixteen month and the outcome is assured.
    Now add to that the possible quirks of the Democratic primary. RFK junior has entered that race:
    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has raised eyebrows as the first right-sympathetic populist to run as a Democrat since William Jennings Bryan. Launching with twenty paid staff and functioning now with seventy, Kennedy’s campaign has latched on to several issues important to mainstream Republicans—Covid tyranny, censorship, government surveillance—as well as to the dissident right: public health threats posed by chemicals in food and water, ending forever wars. The difference is the right frames these issues as matters of social cohesion and public order, while Kennedy uses the language of democracy and freedom.
    In the current fashion RJK Jr. is not really a Democrat:
    When discussing the issues that animate him most—the environment, censorship, state and corporate collusion—he brightens. His hopeless intellectual humility and his hesitation to emphasize the most divisive ideological commitments of his own party while regularly taking up the language of his partisan opponents are setting up a general election that could divide populist voters almost entirely on the basis of aesthetics.
    During the primaries the Democratic Party mafia will do their best to eliminate him even when he is unlikely to be a real danger to Joe Biden's candidacy.

    Should Trump then consider to run for president with RFK Jr. as his future vice-president he could form a quasi bi-partisan populist ticket that might well attract a larger majority.

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    The corruption is too great and those willing to continue it have the power to do so.
    As such there will be no election if it cannot have a controlled outcome.
    The republic has fallen...

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    apprently trump has 91 pages of chares filed against him including RICO charges. If my understanding is right and RICO charges are all about members of an organisation generating funds and economic benefits by fraudulent and criminal means...

    ...should that consideration also be made towards hunger and dad biden?

    afterall, RICO charges refer to a set of laws that deal with organized criminal activities.

    I'm led to believe that if someone is accused of RICO charges, it means they are being accused of being part of a group that has committed repeated criminal acts as a team. These laws are often used to target larger criminal organizations, like gangs or mafia groups, and they can lead to severe penalties if someone is found guilty. The goal of RICO charges is to dismantle and punish groups that engage in ongoing criminal activities.

    Unsure what thecriminal benefit or gain was that driving trump, as his main objective was to stay in office, unlike all the activities of the Bidents ?!?!??!?!1

    but well, as for the bidents? vote pedalling, bribery, tax avidance/evasion etc etc?


    What legimitimate products or services in which companies do the Bidens actually own and offer to legitimately generate the wealth they have?

    Hmmmm, not sure. and your thoughts?
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    apprently trump has 91 chares filed against him including RICO charges.......should that consideration also be made towards hunger and dad biden?
    It should (among many, many other legitimate charges, including treason)... but that's assuming the DoJ is serving the interests of justice. This case has nothing to do about justice. Or about what should be.

    This case is about the actual criminal organizations, gangs, and mafia groups who have the Department of Justice and United States Government in their back pockets, and whose objective is to stop Trump from resuming office by any means necessary.

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    My opinion? No worries. WAIT FOR IT.

    I'm at three, four, nay, five false dawns now and my optimism is wearing thin. I was once, a few years back, very active watching the Anon stuff coming in -- including the Q posts, which I followed closely and for a good long while. Like many others I surfed the dizzying crests of "we have it all", "trust the plan", and "soon", and various Barr/Durham "happenings" just around the corner...only to be disappointed in the end. Then came the 2020 election, and it's been all downhill since then.

    I still have hope in the tank, a little of it, but personally I can't smell any popcorn.
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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
    My opinion? No worries. WAIT FOR IT.

    I'm at three, four, nay, five false dawns now and my optimism is wearing thin. I was once, a few years back, very active watching the Anon stuff coming in -- including the Q posts, which I followed closely and for a good long while. Like many others I surfed the dizzying crests of "we have it all", "trust the plan", and "soon", and various Barr/Durham "happenings" just around the corner...only to be disappointed in the end. Then came the 2020 election, and it's been all downhill since then.

    I still have hope in the tank, a little of it, but personally I can't smell any popcorn.
    Barr and Durham were the biggest Q failures of all, it appears to me.

    Appointing Barr was one of Trump's worst appointments of many, and Durham wasted years without accomplishing much at all.

    (I knew Barr was corrupt DS before Trump appointed him - why do it? On whose advice?)


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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
    My opinion? No worries. WAIT FOR IT.

    I'm at three, four, nay, five false dawns now and my optimism is wearing thin. I was once, a few years back, very active watching the Anon stuff coming in -- including the Q posts, which I followed closely and for a good long while. Like many others I surfed the dizzying crests of "we have it all", "trust the plan", and "soon", and various Barr/Durham "happenings" just around the corner...only to be disappointed in the end. Then came the 2020 election, and it's been all downhill since then.

    I still have hope in the tank, a little of it, but personally I can't smell any popcorn.
    When we started getting the signal that Trump and Q were somehow related, and so took it seriously I don't think any one of us can honestly say we understood the vast scale of what we are up against.

    Target objectives, that the anons, mainly, created in their own minds came and went and disappointments came in like mortars.

    In that long adventure there are two ways to go with it. One way is to basically give up and refuse to upscale our comprehension of the scale of the problem and the scale of the fix ( especially the scale of the fix ). The other way to go is to do that up-scaling and adjustment of our best personal role in helping it work.

    I don't now ( so much) criticise those who talk up the panic, depression and desperation of the situation because I know that is helping to bring the masses up to speed and so inching the situation closer to being ready to complete. If we were ALL chilled out and "trust the plan" the operation would stall and eventually fail.

    Keep in mind that the physical ability of a global network of military 'patriots' to round up a few thousand of the worlds most evil crooks has always been there. THAT PART was always doable, quite easily. The reason they never have, yet, is because under global mass mind control it wouldn't stick and they would themselves end up executed and forgotten. The challenge and the task is to make that easily doable part stick. That requires a majority of the masses to either be in full support or indifferent.

    In my estimation we have arrived in that zone now. The signals coming out from the patriots recently seem to confirm that they, too, feel the time has finally arrived. IF that doesn't happen soon there will be a good reason it doesn't and it will be up to us, again, to get our heads around why and where things go from here.

    As a guess, I suspect the 'patriots' are using their own version of A.I. to help them counter the A.I. used by the black chaos magicians. My guess is that the patriot A.I. has deliberately chosen the extension of the public stress worry and pain to get the public awareness grown up and big boy. That's the only way they can close this op' successfully.

    I also suspect Trump is so shy and twitchy about talking about the injections because that's the one thing the patriot A.I. insisted had to happen to get the masses off their arses. That would have left people like Trump and their close advisers in a tough spot to have to work with and explain but they had to suck it up.

    That's guesswork, of course.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)

    Keep in mind that the physical ability of a global network of military 'patriots' to round up a few thousand of the worlds most evil crooks has always been there. THAT PART was always doable, quite easily. The reason they never have, yet, is because under global mass mind control it wouldn't stick and they would themselves end up executed and forgotten. The challenge and the task is to make that easily doable part stick. That requires a majority of the masses to either be in full support or indifferent.
    The argument has always been "the masses need to wake up first". Which is to say, break the spell of mass mind control. Which is also to say, the masses "waking up" might never happen without some radical jolt.

    IMO, the key to this whole thing, the necessary jolt, is simply to show "the goods"--all of it--i.e., irrefutable proof, with no holds barred. That is to say forcefully spoon-feed the evidence and the reality of how the world works to the toddlers among us who are utterly brainwashed, under the influence of mind control, or simply lack any capacity for critical thought, regardless how shocking or threatening the red-pill might be to their paradigm of understanding the world.

    Are we talking about watermark ballots? NSA data? An irrefutable expose of trafficking? Something other? I dunno... but I do know whatever the "goods" are Jan Halper is talking about, at some point it behooves "the plan" to expose those "goods" to the masses in full detail. If that takes down three-quarters of the United States government--or even if such expose might require some deal of immunity to the lesser offenders and accomplices to the crimes during a total overhaul of government, so be it.

    If people don't wake up after that, or are too shell shocked to acclimate to reality, I would argue they will never wake up, are causalities of war, and the timing of when to execute the plan is irrelevant anyway. And yes, there will be some who don't accept it. But I think for the most part the majority of sleepwalkers and institutional influencers (higher education, military, the media that survives the shock, etc.), will be outraged and fall in line with the truth.

    The key is the proof.

    My two cents? Bring it.
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    apprently trump has 91 pages of chares filed against him including RICO charges. If my understanding is right and RICO charges are all about members of an organisation generating funds and economic benefits by fraudulent and criminal means...

    ...should that consideration also be made towards hunger and dad biden?

    afterall, RICO charges refer to a set of laws that deal with organized criminal activities.

    I'm led to believe that if someone is accused of RICO charges, it means they are being accused of being part of a group that has committed repeated criminal acts as a team. These laws are often used to target larger criminal organizations, like gangs or mafia groups, and they can lead to severe penalties if someone is found guilty. The goal of RICO charges is to dismantle and punish groups that engage in ongoing criminal activities.

    Unsure what thecriminal benefit or gain was that driving trump, as his main objective was to stay in office, unlike all the activities of the Bidents ?!?!??!?!1

    but well, as for the bidents? vote pedalling, bribery, tax avidance/evasion etc etc?


    What legimitimate products or services in which companies do the Bidens actually own and offer to legitimately generate the wealth they have?

    Hmmmm, not sure. and your thoughts?

    It's VERY interesting that these RICO charges are also being used against Rudy Giuliani. He's the one who's an expert in RICO and, famously, used his knowledge to lead federal prosecution to take down the Mafia in New York City back in the 80s. To me, it's like the RICO charges (specifically against Rudy) are intended to BACKFIRE... Meantime, everyone is getting wise to what RICO is now. Clever. It's like a little public education in advance before Rudy gets his chance in court to turn it all around on his prosecutors (if this goes to court). RICO is probably the best way to take down the Biden/Clinton/Obama etc. crime syndicate.



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    remember this auto blowup? I do. Was obviously no accident when it happened and Kemp has been controlled ever since.

    https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/stat...625000450?s=20





    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/s...845810794?s=20

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    My opinion? No worries. WAIT FOR IT.

    I'm at three, four, nay, five false dawns now and my optimism is wearing thin. I was once, a few years back, very active watching the Anon stuff coming in -- including the Q posts, which I followed closely and for a good long while. Like many others I surfed the dizzying crests of "we have it all", "trust the plan", and "soon", and various Barr/Durham "happenings" just around the corner...only to be disappointed in the end. Then came the 2020 election, and it's been all downhill since then.

    I still have hope in the tank, a little of it, but personally I can't smell any popcorn.
    Barr and Durham were the biggest Q failures of all, it appears to me.

    Appointing Barr was one of Trump's worst appointments of many, and Durham wasted years without accomplishing much at all.

    (I knew Barr was corrupt DS before Trump appointed him - why do it? On whose advice?)


    (I did not intend these 2 posts to be joined - oh well.)

    What's going on behind-the-scenes? I look beneath the surface for answers.

    For awhile there, I also "expected" things to happen much, much sooner and got very disappointed that things didn't seem to happen or at least not happen fast enough. Grudgingly, I came to the conclusion that the show I'm watching isn't for me -- it's for people who need to still wake up. I've had zero patience and had to learn to relax. People have to learn the hard way and that's what we're watching play out. As horrific as so much of this is to watch (it is a world war after all), there is the appearance of "controlled demolition" behind so much of it. Sadly, I don't see any other way we can get people to wake up from a decades-long psychological operation perpetrated against them meant to keep them in the dark than to do it SLOWLY, PAINFULLY. It's meant to get people very angry. Their anger is waking them up. But, wake up they must.

    I wouldn't judge Barr and Durham as failures at all. With regard to Barr, if this is a sting operation, try to imagine having one of your best men on the inside rubbing shoulders with the scuzziest criminals. You (Trump) send in your Trojan horse to pose like one of them. Purpose: to poison their credibility in the public eye by punching holes in their facade. You make it really obvious in order to wake everyone up to the corruption. Then, when your Trojan horse sides with you on any issue, its a SHOCK to those who'd never consider that position otherwise. With regard to Durham, he exposed the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax and the connection to Clinton. He also exposed FBI and DOJ censorship, and Hunter Biden's Laptop from Hell. I see all of this as tremendously successful. It's brought public awareness to all of this and PUT IT ALL ON RECORD. That's the FIRST STEP. All of this will be used later on -- when the time is right -- in court. Just wait.

    Here's a brief summation of Durham's accomplishments:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1557589


    For those who don't know, going back to the 80s, there was a little group of men that worked together to take down the criminal syndicate. This included FBI director Robert Mueller, his #2 James Comey, DA Rudy Giuliani, AG Bill Barr, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, and the two Trump bothers (Donald and Robert [died in 2020] as primary informants). They called themselves "The Band". They were a sting operation back then.

    Consider for a moment that the band got back together and are now pulling off a global sting operation with the help of leaders from multiple nations.

    Here's a link to a post (and article) I put up about "The Sting". There's also an entire video analysis worth watching, but specific to what I mentioned above, start at 1:41:45

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1556022
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    As a guess, I suspect the 'patriots' are using their own version of A.I. to help them counter the A.I. used by the black chaos magicians. My guess is that the patriot A.I. has deliberately chosen the extension of the public stress worry and pain to get the public awareness grown up and big boy. That's the only way they can close this op' successfully.

    I think that's it in a nutshell.

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    Keep in mind that the physical ability of a global network of military 'patriots' to round up a few thousand of the worlds most evil crooks has always been there. THAT PART was always doable, quite easily. The reason they never have, yet, is because under global mass mind control it wouldn't stick and they would themselves end up executed and forgotten. The challenge and the task is to make that easily doable part stick. That requires a majority of the masses to either be in full support or indifferent.
    The argument has always been "the masses need to wake up first". Which is to say, break the spell of mass mind control. Which is also to say, the masses "waking up" might never happen without some radical jolt.

    IMO, the key to this whole thing, the necessary jolt, is simply to show "the goods"--all of it--i.e., irrefutable proof, with no holds barred. That is to say forcefully spoon-feed the evidence and the reality of how the world works to the toddlers among us who are utterly brainwashed, under the influence of mind control, or simply lack any capacity for critical thought, regardless how shocking or threatening the red-pill might be to their paradigm of understanding the world.

    Are we talking about watermark ballots? NSA data? An irrefutable expose of trafficking? Something other? I dunno... but I do know whatever the "goods" are Jan Halper is talking about, at some point it behooves "the plan" to expose those "goods" to the masses in full detail. If that takes down three-quarters of the United States government--or even if such expose might require some deal of immunity to the lesser offenders and accomplices to the crimes during a total overhaul of government, so be it.

    If people don't wake up after that, or are too shell shocked to acclimate to reality, I would argue they will never wake up, are causalities of war, and the timing of when to execute the plan is irrelevant anyway. And yes, there will be some who don't accept it. But I think for the most part the majority of sleepwalkers and institutional influencers (higher education, military, the media that survives the shock, etc.), will be outraged and fall in line with the truth.

    The key is the proof.

    My two cents? Bring it.

    Everything we are seeing is part of waking people up. It's been hard going, but according to polls (the ones that are more or less unbiased), it appears we finally crossed the rubicon. Many of us have been "ready" for years. Everyone else had to catch up. The people have to be shown, clearly, who the bad guys are so that when the good guys finally move in to take them down, the people won't revolt.

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    https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/...572098525?s=20

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    Interesting statement today from Trump

    Why did Trump not get Crooked Hillary Clinton (and all who are connected to covering up her crimes) in jail? ... Was Trump also compromised, threatened, blackmailed?

    Remember 100s of different videos where the Trump crowd shouted: "Lock her up! ... Lock her up! ... Lock her up!" ... in 2016-2017 ... Trump chanted with them on record! ... Because Trump did nothing about Hillary when he was in the Oval Office ... he even had CFR types in his "team" :/ ... How many of his Trump team were OBVIOUSLY serving big pharma & BIG defense contractors!
    • Now because Trump was way too soft on them, he pays the price for his (compromised?) decision!
    Am not against Trump on many things (remember I am Dutch 🇳🇱 do not vote in the USA), but hopefully we ARE allowed to question things that do not make sense UNLESS his "4D or 5D chess" FAILED and the "Trust the Plan" was a pacifier to neutralize real mass uprising! ... Maybe they were afraid of an assumed "temporary" military coup leading US in to a permanent civil war?

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    quote from the video below (which I studied AFTER I made my P.A. Forum comment here):

    "Who can forget the most famous chant in the 2016 US Presidential campaign: Lock her up! Tens of millions of hard-working, honest, tax-paying, patriotic Americans thought they finally found a leader in Donald Trump, who had the courage and strength to take down the crime syndicate that has controlled America for decades. Everybody knew that Bill and Hillary Clinton were the two most corrupt politicians in the history of the United States of America.

    The Clintons, however, have a Get Out of Jail Free Card. They are never investigated, indicted, or imprisoned for their multitude of crimes of political corruption. They don’t even sweat over the thought of being accountable for dastardly deeds. Weeks after defeating Hillary Clinton in 2016, Mr. Trump shocked his supporters by announcing that his administration would not investigate the Clintons nor prosecute them.

    In hindsight, Mr. Trump must deeply regret not locking up Hillary Clinton years ago and going after the rest of the political mafia. Mr. Trump may have successfully conducted large business deals in New York City and Las Vegas, but he was not prepared to wrestle with the shadow government. They immediately went into action and laid the groundwork to label Mr. Trump as a Russian stooge of Vladimir Putin. Now, Mr. Trump is facing over 1,000 years in federal and state prisons".


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v35ple7/?pub=1hi16y
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