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    Default Forest Fire as a Military Weapon

    I happened across this military document (originally produced in the 1970s) on how to apply forest fires as a military weapon.

    https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD0509724.pdf

    It was given DARPA authority in 1983 and produced to be distributed by authorised US Government Agencies and their contractors and goes into great detail of these strategies over some 170+ pages, including this;

    “The battle was fought in the forest of E’phraim, and the forest devoured more people that day than the sword” ~II Samuel 18: 6,8.
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    What the whole world witnessed via the Internet in Maui on Tuesday, August 8, 2023, was nothing short of a full-scale military assault on the "census-designated place" known as Lahaina.

    http://stateofthenation.co/?p=181758#more-181758

    Does anyone know if this website is at all trustworthy? A friend sent me the link and I'm concerned that it might be another "Real Raw News" site!

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    Clif High discusses DEWs here: https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/al2o...ome-tough-****

    Skip to just after 13 minutes. Play at 1.5x speed.

    Hmm, the last word in the link refers to excrement, s__t

    (Honestly is it really necessary to censor this word?)
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    Default Re: Forest Fire as a Military Weapon

    Quote Posted by John Hilton (here)
    http://stateofthenation.co/?p=181758#more-181758

    Does anyone know if this website is at all trustworthy? A friend sent me the link and I'm concerned that it might be another "Real Raw News" site!
    Always a good question to ask! I'm pretty sure SOTN is 100% okay. (Real Raw News is NOT! )


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    Default Re: Forest Fire as a Military Weapon

    The smoke inversion rolled into the area where I live today and when I absolutely had to go outside for a few moments I noticed the air did not smell like wildfire, but PLAsTIC or chemical burning. Within 10 minutes of outdoor time my eyes were burning and my lungs constricting.

    I noticed a ‘nothing to see here pretend its normal’ notification in the mainstream news about this NEW phenomenon with some erroneous BS from an ‘expert’:

    http://https://news.yahoo.com/reside...153000093.html

    I am not a fire expert but I did study fire ecology with Kathy Raven out of the Yellowstone National Park fire cache and I gave tours in the park for 2 summers and 2 winters discussing fire ecology as a component of those all day tours, and I also got my wildland fire red card and served as an AD 2 hire on the Fortress Fire on 2000, which was burning deep in the backcountry of the west side of the park, we were helicoptered in from Big Sky. Later as an NPS Protection Ranger I continued to have to certify for my Red Card (along with being an EMT and then Paramedic and also Federal Law Enforcement Officer). I have been in and around forest fires in a wide variety of ecotypes, on the front line of those firelines and also in the incident command or road patrol positions helping coordinate efforts in a variety of ways.

    I can tell you what I know from those experiences:
    1) forest fires do NOT smell like chemicals. They smell like burnt wood.
    If they smell like chemicals its because chemicals have been SPRAYED. As in fire retardant or foam. Or… planes chemtrailing totally unseen because smoke cover obscures their fly over.
    2) being on on a fire crew as a woman is an exquisite lesson in holding neutral in the face of extreme misogyny and gender splitting behaviors. On my first fire, which I volunteered for as a tour guide because the smoke was so bad all my tours were cancelling anyways (I worked for the big national park concessioner Amfac out of Old Faithful that summer, 2000) and while most of the crew got hazard pay and overtime… putting their hourly wage at anywhere from 18-35 dollars an hour… I was paid a FLAT RATE of $9/hr, no hazard pay, no overtime. I had to borrow boots to go and I only had a biivy sack and my own sleeping bag so I slept out under the stars in a pristine wild meadow deep in the Yellowstone backcountry and it was divine, until it rained and my crew boss invited me spot in his tent which I gratefully accepted, but then the sexual comments and misery from all the other male crew laid in heavily the next day. I was vegetarian at the time and there is a saying on wildland fire “when forests burn, pigs die” because literally ALL they seem to serve for food is heavily laden nitrite preserved pork products. When they helicoptered us in takeout from Bozeman one night and I got a veggie wrap sandwich And a bottle of peppermint dr bronners soap I had asked for since its biodegradable and we were in pristine backcountry and needed *THAT* to be LNT (purchased at northern lights trading co, for those of you who know bozeman) I was convinced I was in some absurd form of backcountry heaven replete with air supplied takeout and on-demand consumer products provided free of charge on the government dime. It was a triumph of the simulacra for sure — even better than the real thing. In that moment I knew I preferred the hard won hike in with what you need on your back like a proper Grandmother Turtle Earth Guardian/Explorer than the easy-uneasy weirdness of the government ‘savior of the forest as a hero firefighter’ BS distortion version. The whole affair was such a mess, no main latrine and people leaving ground turds behind every tree, trampling the meadow….

    Here I had thought I was “saving” the forest when in reality, once on the ground crew of that effort, I realized the forest was probably a whole lot better without our monster machine of logistics and trampling everything.

    Now its different when structures and towns are involved, but I can tell you that while I am no expert, EVERYTHING I learned from my time on the fireline was that leaving it alone was probably a far better option for nature than the methods the men had developed to ‘fight’ what was essentially a natural process in a lodgepole pine ecosystem.

    Whatever is happening now with fires is just an amplification of the destructive force of modern firefighting taken to next level weaponization tactics. If it seemed like a reversed mindset in 2000 I can only imagine what it has become 23 years later.

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    The fires could fall into a depopulation/terraforming agenda. I heard a story that the Black Forest in Germany was almost completely cut down after WW2 because the residents needed fuel and the global oxygen level dropped. Increased global temperatures and lower O2 would make for a hospitable environment for reptilians. Another facet is the radiation levels accelerating biological mutations which equates to increased revenue from space trade by manifesting new products.

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    Quote In the middle of the 19th century, the Black Forest was almost completely deforested by intensive forestry and was subsequently replanted, mostly with spruce monocultures.
    Bill Gates to destroy 70 million acres of trees to fight global warming

    The Dulce Wars: Underground Alien Bases & The Battle For Planet Earth by Branton
    Quote P100. The NWO and their draconian masters intend to depopulate the planet and underworld. This book was published in 1999.
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    U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare
    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...oy-capitalism/

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