The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[mountain_jim]

should have typed this as I reply so Bill's points would be included here - but I add now

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Just stepping in briefly here. (I'm watching all this with great interest, btw. It seems Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes needs to be taken seriously, and her on-record remarks are more than extraordinary by any measure.)

Posted by Pris (here)
I'd have thought I would have heard about Jordan Sather by now, but I don't know anything about him.

Long-time observers of the Corey Goode saga will know Sather as having introduced himself to the alt media scene by being a diehard supporter of Corey.

He later carefully tiptoed away from all that, but he's never apologized for all the significant harm that he did, which included promoting a vicious doxxing campaign that destroyed at least one person's life (Joe from the Carolinas). He showed zero capacity for either good research or good analysis, but he sure liked the sound of his own voice.

That showed that he was really just a young buck with a lot of arrogance hitching a ride on the then-major issue to make his mark on the community. So his judgment is flawed, his opinion of himself is considerable, his ethics are tarnished, and my quiet advice would be not to listen to him too much, even if sometimes he may be getting some things right these days. (Whether that's happening or not, I don't know, because I ignore him. )

Thanks Bill, and sorry I inadvertently derailed the discussion, because Jordan had accurately pointed out a lot of frauds and grifters and had good counterpoints on the Q/Maga scene (in my view) in recent times.

Even Clif High publicly changed his views of him and how he thought he had grown.

just trying to keep an open mind and consider all views in this complex, multi-psyop area.

also, a tweet containing Trumps retruth mentioned above

https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/stat...913335296?s=20

update

While I was typing the above, I was interrupted by a mama black bear and 5(!) tiny cubs destroying a bird feeder in my back driveway area.

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/stat...033618944?s=20

text

Here is a shortened 3 minute clip of that interview.

Highlights:

-Jack Smith made a HUGE HUGE mistake with this one
-Trump has due process so he can subpoena people
-2018 EO on foreign or domestic interference in elections
-The media LIED!
-60 Court cases - he won 2 & lost 1, 57 were never heard because they had no standing.


https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/stat...329311744?s=20

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/st...757153280?s=20

[mountain_jim]

Posted by norman (here)
(LSE) 2023 Aug 9-18 ?

probably not related, but I was reminded of this news yesterday

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-ann...october-4-2023

FCC Announces Nationwide Emergency Alerting Tests on October 4, 2023
Full Title: Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau Announces Nationwide Tests of the Emergency Alert System (EAS) and Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) on October 4, 2023
Document Type: Public Notice
Bureau(s): Public Safety and Homeland Security
Description
Announcement that FEMA, in coordination with the FCC, will conduct a nationwide Emergency Alert System (EAS) and Wireless Emergency Alert (WEA) test on October 4, 2023.
DA/FCC #: DA-23-653
Docket No: 15-9115-94
Related Document(s):
News Release - FEMA and FCC Plan Nationwide Emergency Alert Test for Oct. 4, 2023

FEMA and FCC Plan Nationwide Emergency Alert Test for Oct. 4, 2023
Full Title: FEMA and FCC Plan Nationwide Emergency Alert Test for Oct. 4, 2023
Document Type: News Release
Bureau(s): Public Safety and Homeland SecurityMedia Relations
Description
Test Messages Will be Sent to All TVs, Radios and Cell Phones

[Pris]

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Posted by mountain_jim (here)
should have typed this as I reply so Bill's points would be included here - but I add now

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Just stepping in briefly here. (I'm watching all this with great interest, btw. It seems Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes needs to be taken seriously, and her on-record remarks are more than extraordinary by any measure.)

Posted by Pris (here)
I'd have thought I would have heard about Jordan Sather by now, but I don't know anything about him.

Long-time observers of the Corey Goode saga will know Sather as having introduced himself to the alt media scene by being a diehard supporter of Corey.

He later carefully tiptoed away from all that, but he's never apologized for all the significant harm that he did, which included promoting a vicious doxxing campaign that destroyed at least one person's life (Joe from the Carolinas). He showed zero capacity for either good research or good analysis, but he sure liked the sound of his own voice.

That showed that he was really just a young buck with a lot of arrogance hitching a ride on the then-major issue to make his mark on the community. So his judgment is flawed, his opinion of himself is considerable, his ethics are tarnished, and my quiet advice would be not to listen to him too much, even if sometimes he may be getting some things right these days. (Whether that's happening or not, I don't know, because I ignore him. )

Thanks Bill, and sorry I inadvertently derailed the discussion, because Jordan had accurately pointed out a lot of frauds and grifters and had good counterpoints on the Q/Maga scene (in my view) in recent times.

Even Clif High publicly changed his views of him and how he thought he had grown.

just trying to keep an open mind and consider all views in this complex, multi-psyop area.

(Cross-thread posting is turning into a pain lol but there's no way around it!)

Mountain_Jim, I see what you mean, however, I'm waaaay more unforgiving than you, apparently. ;P

It's far too easy to get blown off track with all this.

Here's my take:

Posted by Pris (here)
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It's very interesting that Bill Ryan came into this thread to touch on Jordan Sather and to say he ignores him (too). Not knowing anything about him, it looks like my analysis of Jordan Sather from one post he made was on target lol. Good. I appreciate the confirmation, and I think it's very important we keep on top of these things to avoid the individuals attempting to misdirect and confuse us -- now, more than ever. Basically, I think the "80/20 disinfo agents" are the worst. Infiltration... they try to hide amongst us and are a a real pain in the arse. They toy with us and do the most damage.

Then, Trump chimes in and instructs us all to listen to Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes in that interview and that she's "fantastic". All those so-called "forbidden" subjects she's bringing up... she's sure getting attention now!

Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1571012

[mountain_jim]

Clandestine was perhaps the leading researcher and publicizer of the Ukraine Biolab revelations, as I recall. His research has been top-notch so far, in my view.

And my view about which of his 2 options is correct is clear - Trump (and his team) were part of the Q op from very early on.

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/s...363055616?s=20

full text

Clandestine
@WarClandestine
🚨Controversial Statement🚨

Trump shares Q memes and drops.

He quotes Q drops during speeches.

Then last night he shared and praised a video of a member of his transition team going on a wild 10 minute Q spree about how the US MIL have proof of fraud in the 2020 election and are waiting for the public to wake up before introducing it in order to prevent civil war and mass civilian casualties.

Now whether you are familiar with Q, think it’s real, or think it’s some disinformation psyop conspiracy theory cult; shouldn’t you be aware that Trump, the leading presidential candidate in 2024, is openly referencing and quoting this whole Q thing?

Like if you think it’s nonsense, shouldn’t you be worried about Trump’s association with it? How can one be a Trump supporter, and simultaneously think Q is a bunch of hogwash? Because Trump has gradually gone beyond full Q for the past few months on truth social, and it hardly gets talked about in the mainstream.

The mainstream that calls everything and everyone “QAnon”, except for when Trump is actually quoting Q all the time.

So there are two options here. Either:

-Trump is a part of the Q operation and there is some level of validity to it

-Trump is not part of whatever Q is, and the lead presidential candidate and his associates are blindly quoting and referencing a Russian disinformation psyop or some dude in his basement

Both options are insane to think about, and there’s really not any in between. Either he’s a part of it or he’s not.

If he’s not, as Trump supporters, we have a crisis on our hands. If he is, that means that Trump is conducting a massive global awakening campaign so we can introduce reality to the brainwashed and hold the Deep State accountable without mass civilian casualties and civil war.

I’m not telling you what to believe, I’m telling you that ignoring this reality is no longer an option.
1:24 PM · Aug 7, 2023
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some history on this poster

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/s...258207233?s=20

[norman]

Phil Godlewski tells how the Biden theatre will end, probably soon

https://rumble.com/v35xdr6-phil-godl...ably-soon.html

9 minutes

Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v33bz2c/?pub=1yatds

[BMJ]

2023-08-18 SPECIAL REPORT - Nino w/ Dr. Jan Halper > US Military Calculating Their Rollout Timing

* DOD Task Force Advisor Dr. Jan Halper Has Been Working Since 2015 With US MIL PsyOps Leadership To Assess The Public's Readiness To Accept The Military's Public Rollout
* Predicting Proper Timing Is Critical And Effective Messaging Will Be The Key
* Military Action Is Expected Before The 2024 Election


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v3799n2

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...050771321?s=20

https://twitter.com/BrainStorm_Joe/s...999280936?s=20

https://twitter.com/BrainStorm_Joe/s...982159956?s=20

https://twitter.com/kate_awakening/s...923519835?s=20

https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/stat...494044884?s=20

[Ratszinger]

Ok well either all of the pics of Donald Trump playing golf as a fat man are his double and not DJ! Even tho literally every media news and talk show could not wait to exploit and make fun of Trump as a terrible example of a person making fun of a fat man like Christie as a fat man himself or that mug shot pic was taken of DJT when he was 30 pounds lighter in weight which means it was taken years ago. He didn't lose all those pounds on his way to GA. WTF?

[Pris]

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Posted by mountain_jim (here)
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/...347525555?s=20

All the fake news is running with "Trump surrendered and is humiliated". That's their narrative lol.

Trump instantly putting out his badass mug shot with the words "ELECTION INTERFERENCE, NEVER SURRENDER!" with a fundraising link where people can buy it on T-shirts is about as big an F-U he could give the Deep State. Trump's counter-punch is a thing of beauty to behold.

Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1573902

Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1573903

[Pris]

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Posted by Ratszinger (here)
Ok well either all of the pics of Donald Trump playing golf as a fat man are his double and not DJ! Even tho literally every media news and talk show could not wait to exploit and make fun of Trump as a terrible example of a person making fun of a fat man like Christie as a fat man himself or that mug shot pic was taken of DJT when he was 30 pounds lighter in weight which means it was taken years ago. He didn't lose all those pounds on his way to GA. WTF?

[Ratszinger]

The mug shot is the real DJT. This is his double. @30 lbs + of the Prez

[Pris]

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Posted by Ratszinger (here)
The mug shot is the real DJT. This is his double. @30 lbs + of the Prez

Note: muscle is more dense than fat so it takes up less volume to an equal amount of fat. That means someone with more muscle looks slimmer than someone with more fat on them even though their weight is the same.

It would be nice to know what year that picture of Trump was taken. A link to the original photo would be nice.

Naw, that's Trump (check the ears, around the eyes and nose, the lips). He's lost some weight this year. I've been watching him quite closely. People who hate Trump tend to fixate on the worst pictures of him possible because that makes them feel good. Fake News always shows shots of him at his worst. Trump definitely lost some weight in the last few months (probably to look good for his mug shot because he knew it was coming up lol). The Fake News can't fudge his mug shot. They can't make this one particular picture of Trump unflattering because it is what it is. Hahaha. I wouldn't be surprised that Trump controlled the whole picture-taking process just to make sure it would look exactly how he wanted it to look. After all, it needed to be iconic and it needed to look good on a T-shirt. ;D

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Trump is just the sort of fellow that would refuse to have a double. I don't know if that's the case, and maybe it's standard practice for the Secret Service and there's no getting out of it, but it would be so like Trump to say no, I neither want nor require a double. I've seen various pics of other Presidents' doubles, and Hilary as a bunch of them (and not very good ones either), but I cannot recall ever seeing a dubious pic of Trump, one that says to me, that's not him, it's a double.

Also, is there another human being alive who could actually pull it off? Trump really is one of a kind, and in more ways than looks.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Trump is just the sort of fellow that would refuse to have a double. I don't know if that's the case, and maybe it's standard practice for the Secret Service and there's no getting out of it, but it would be so like Trump to say no, I neither want nor require a double. I've seen various pics of other Presidents' doubles, and Hilary as a bunch of them (and not very good ones either), but I cannot recall ever seeing a dubious pic of Trump, one that says to me, that's not him, it's a double.

Also, is there another human being alive who could actually pull it off? Trump really is one of a kind, and in more ways than looks.

Trump had a double before he ran for prez apparently but yes has at least one double. There is a very good video on his double on Youtube still. They look a lot alike but the double is heavier than the real DJT. That info came from Derek Johnsons tweet BTW but when I saw it I thought it was just posted like yesterday or the day before but apparently not. I have looked for it since and can't find it on his tweets but maybe it is in his replies. I haven't searched there yet. I keep hoping to find it again because there was a video on the feed I want to continue watching that I got half way through and I can't find that now either.

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/BrainStorm_Joe/s...366837103?s=20

https://twitter.com/BrainStorm_Joe/s...418590034?s=20

[Pris]

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Posted by mountain_jim (here)
https://twitter.com/BrainStorm_Joe/s...366837103?s=20

This is brilliant! What a great image.
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[mountain_jim]

Look at what Trump echoes today

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousLMC/...374547668?s=20

Lisa's full text

Lisa Mei
@TheNotoriousLMC
Everything they've done to President Trump...every ridiculous charge, impeachment, and indictment...sets the needed precedent for future legal actions to be taken against [them].

"First indictment [unseal] will trigger mass pop awakening.
First arrest will verify action and confirm future direction."

"Sometimes you must sacrifice yourself for the greater good.
'I will gladly take all those slings and arrows for you.' - POTUS
But, even that, can be undone.
The enormity of what is coming will SHOCK THE WORLD.
Pray."

The boomerang is going to be so satisfying to behold.

and the Q post from 2018




update

https://twitter.com/17ThankQ/status/...643263600?s=20

[Pris]

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Posted by Pris (here)
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Posted by Ratszinger (here)
The mug shot is the real DJT. This is his double. @30 lbs + of the Prez

Note: muscle is more dense than fat so it takes up less volume to an equal amount of fat. That means someone with more muscle looks slimmer than someone with more fat on them even though their weight is the same.

It would be nice to know what year that picture of Trump was taken. A link to the original photo would be nice.

Naw, that's Trump (check the ears, around the eyes and nose, the lips). He's lost some weight this year. I've been watching him quite closely. People who hate Trump tend to fixate on the worst pictures of him possible because that makes them feel good. Fake News always shows shots of him at his worst. Trump definitely lost some weight in the last few months (probably to look good for his mug shot because he knew it was coming up lol). The Fake News can't fudge his mug shot. They can't make this one particular picture of Trump unflattering because it is what it is. Hahaha. I wouldn't be surprised that Trump controlled the whole picture-taking process just to make sure it would look exactly how he wanted it to look. After all, it needed to be iconic and it needed to look good on a T-shirt. ;D

I do think that Trump lost some weight and looks great. His mug shot proves it. And, he looks the same in the Tucker Carlson interview the day before his mug shot was taken. That said, if he did lie about his exact weight... consider what that means. Why would he be ALLOWED to lie? Not just that, but there is an "error" with his height that was recorded with his mug shot.

Apparently, Trump is 6'2". But, on his booking sheet, his height is recorded as 6'3". So, if his height is a lie and his weight is a lie, it's funny that those specific numbers all add up to 17. I just wanted to point out that it took "two lies" to provide numbers that add up to 17. That makes this whole thing look so entirely staged you just have to laugh.


. .. .6 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 5 = 17

[Ratszinger]

I'm about 6'2.5" in my Harley boots and Trump was a little taller than me yet when I met him in Tulsa. I'd say he is every bit of 6'3" personally. The diff in the two pics I posted is most noticed in the busy red tinted eye brows of the double. That is not Donald Trump.